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The more I think about this the more I'm pissed off. If a child is born with a handicap the mother and father should get help in caring for child. It is not the child's fault that he or she was born with a problem. I was born and raised in a small CA town. When they needed help they got it. Yes I still mess up from time to time but It could have been worse if my parents did not love me. What seems normal to me I had to learn sometimes the hard way that is not normal to think or act a certain way. At about 10 years old or so I became withdrawn because of my views on life.
It is very hard to explain but for me I'm normal and the rest of the world is not. But I have learned a lot over time. I still do not understand why the police were called to begin with. The mother knows he has a problem she was wrong to call them in. Put the mother in jail For being an idiot and find a happy and safe home for the child. The child needs love. Sleeping with your arms around someone is very helpful for anyone with a handicap no matter what the age. The mother is so wrong in so many ways. If anyone with a handicap rapes anyone yes it is wrong but he or she needs help not prison time.
 
So moms is crazy as shit. The kid is used to being able to sleep with his mom. If she didn't want him sleeping with her, she should have taught him that after a certain age, there are boundaries....

I feel for the kid.
 
For the love of god o_O this is fucked on so many levels.
... Beware of this bitch ... if she just "dreams" of you charges may be filed.
I honestly don't know what to think with all the back and forth bullshit.
 
i didnt read the link (cuz i'm lazy today) but this leaves me with questions. like, was a rape kit done?
and then i got a lil suspicious. like, maybe she cried rape because she wanted to get rid of the problem child. i'm not saying it's true because i don't have all the facts. i guess i'm trying to wrap my mind around the madness of the situation. *shrug*
 
Is this a one off case where socialized medicine failed a family in the UK, or is this situation fairly common?

Never heard of anything like this before, but not entirely sure how socialised medicine could be to blame for this?
 
Well, the mother supposedly tried repeatedly to get help for her autistic/ADHD child and couldn't. How is that not a failure of socialized medicine? Those are mental issues, one that requires medical attention, the other requiring therapy. Suffering from Adult On-set ADD myself, I know I would be lost and a wreck without my meds. I wasn't trying to knock your system, merely trying to figure out if this is where medicine is headed here in the US and what to expect in the future. Maybe I should expect something more along the lines of our VA Healthcare system in the future here?


Her teenage son, who is on medication for ADHD, had been having behavioural problems in recent weeks.....

He was on medication, and according to the original article the problems dated only from "recent weeks"? Will try and read more of the articles the latest updates were based on later today.
 
This is from the link @Momzilla posted:

Under cross-examination on Wednesday she said she felt she had been suffering “some sort of breakdown” at the time of the alleged rape. “I had had a horrible 18 months. I had been trying to access help for my son,” she told the jury.

She said six to eight weeks after making the rape complaint she had tried to withdraw it but no one listened. On giving evidence in court she said: “I just feel I’m not being listened to. I feel like I’m being railroaded.”

Francis McEntee, prosecuting, suggested she was lying to protect her son from going to prison. The mother responded angrily: “I’m telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This didn’t happen and my son has been failed by this system that’s quite clearly fractured.”

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...his-mother-after-she-said-it-was-just-a-dream

The mother does appear to be blaming "socialised medicine", but I find myself wondering how much easier it would be to get help for mental health issues in a private health-care situation, e.g. in the US? My impression is she might have struggled to get him help anywhere, especially when she herself also suffers some issues; but I may be wrong?
 
This didn’t happen and my son has been failed by this system that’s quite clearly fractured.”
While I can't say whether or not her son was failed by any system as far as accessing care went, I do think in this current mess he was failed primarily by his mother.

While I don't agree with co-sleeping with a teenager (and yes, my oldest is an Aspie but it's a spectrum disorder so who knows how my son would compare to hers), if she KNOWS that this occurs at all then why the fuck get your drunk on and sleep in just your panties when you KNOW your son may very well end up spooning with you in bed? Common sense bitch, leave some damn clothes on if your 14 year old son likes to spoon with you!
 
@Abroad , re: MH care here, in our situation with our Aspy son, we were actually called in for a parent-teacher conference by his first grade/Grade 1 primary school teacher b/c another child said a curse word out loud in class and he quietly got up, walked right over to the boy and punched him full on in the face showing no more emotion than if he was simply walking to the pencil sharpener. Then he went back to his seat and sat down. :confused: All he knew was that he wasn't supposed to say curse words, but why the hell he punched the kid was waaaay beyond all of us. He *never* saw or heard any aggression between us, and we weren't at all aggressive with him. I even monitored his cartoons for aggression. We knew he was very "different" by the time he started Pre-K at 4 y.o., we just didn't know what "it" was.

Because the school had contacted us about an aggressive event, we were referred by the school counselor to our local Community Behavioral/Mental Health Center for help. Our private health insurance paid for the initial intake visit and his first visit with a child therapist. Based on her diagnosis of Asperger's with ADD (at the time it was classified as mental ADHD w/o the physical hyperactivity), our insurance also paid for his initial Asperger's test battery and official diagnosis per our state's Asperger's specialists/diagnosticians. After that, the State picked up the tab for all his treatment from ages 6-15 under the "Children with Disabilities Act" until he was released from treatment.

@Krystal likely had a different experience with her son, but that's how it worked for us in my state. Note: We also tried him on meds after 2 yrs. of my refusal, but they didn't help him either. Other than the school being the referring agent for us, we could've (and would've eventually) walked into the Comm. MH center and gotten the diagnosis and state-funded treatment on our own as long as we had the MH coverage on our insurance. Based on income alone (they go by sliding scale), we could've afforded "routine" MH care for him, but not the intensive treatment and Asperger's assessments he got which was mega-expensive. So, even if the kid's mom wasn't privately insured here or wasn't on medical benefit, she would've been able to seek treatment/diagnosis/care for him on a walk-in basis, and any time she felt it wasn't helping him, she could've simply requested to change docs on her next appt.

Is it different w/MH care in the U.K.?

ETA: It would've been the same had the mother sought treatment for herself, or both of them together, except mom wouldn't have been covered under the CWD Act.
 
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Is it different w/MH care in the U.K.?

I suspect the staring point would be your GP (General Practitioner) unless the school got involved (and perhaps even then). Not sure how easy it is to get help. I have never (touch wood!) had to access the NHS for mental health issues for anybody close to me.

I do get the impression they are underfunded, and there are not as many beds available as are sometimes needed, but then this boy does not sound like a case for putting in an institution?
 
I suspect the staring point would be your GP (General Practitioner) unless the school got involved (and perhaps even then). Not sure how easy it is to get help. I have never (touch wood!) had to access the NHS for mental health issues for anybody close to me.

I do get the impression they are underfunded, and there are not as many beds available as are sometimes needed, but then this boy does not sound like a case for putting in an institution?

Agreed. Sounds like if mom had some support, he could easily be managed at home through outpatient visits. All of my son's care was done through outpatient services three times/wk. During his last year, we were able to have the therapists come to our homes (divorced, but we'd meet at mine) instead of having to go to the MH center for appts.
 
@gatekeeper , we got our referral based on academic performance in kindergarten. From there we did the psychologists (school and private) and I one-upped that by taking him to a Neuro-developmentalist at a University hospital for a firm, 100% diagnosis.

No meds were needed in our case until his teen years when he developed the depression and anxiety that is all too common in cases of autism. Then I had him hospitalized for inpatient psych care but at that time he was hearing voices and seeing things so no one hesitated with that.

Knowing my experiences and my personality and temperament when it comes to getting my son what he needs that I won't condemn this mother because I have ZERO idea what doing the same is like overseas, rather I'm trying to only comment on her behavior and umm, lack of clothing in this situation.
 
@gatekeeper , we got our referral based on academic performance in kindergarten. From there we did the psychologists (school and private) and I one-upped that by taking him to a Neuro-developmentalist at a University hospital for a firm, 100% diagnosis.

No meds were needed in our case until his teen years when he developed the depression and anxiety that is all too common in cases of autism. Then I had him hospitalized for inpatient psych care but at that time he was hearing voices and seeing things so no one hesitated with that.

Knowing my experiences and my personality and temperament when it comes to getting my son what he needs that I won't condemn this mother because I have ZERO idea what doing the same is like overseas, rather I'm trying to only comment on her behavior and umm, lack of clothing in this situation.

Yep, that's what I'm trying to understand, too (good job, mom, btw!). Based on what @Abroad said, she may have gone through her PCP/GP to get his diagnosis and get him on meds rather than the kind of more "immediate" access (for lack of a better term) to MH care/treatment we have here.

The only thing I really have to compare Soc. Med. to is what I've heard from an e-friend in Canada where she's said the wait for certain medical/psych care needs can be looong compared to ours unless it's a bona fide emergency, so I'm interested, too.
 
Drunken mommy probably left it out before she toddled off to bed.
 
Wow :vomit:. I've had a permanent boner for the last oh I don't know let's see, I was 12 when it happened, I'm almost 27 now.... so roughly 15 years.

This is groundbreaking. I'm beyond ecstatic! I'm proud to say that I'm finally cured! Thanks mate! Now I can start looking for a pair of underwear that actually fits...:shifty:
 
Maybe it's time to update the title to something like:
British 14yo Accused of Raping His Mother:It Was All a Dream; He's Acquitted; She's a Psycho!

Just Sayin...:whistle:
 
Gross. What a foul story. Now this poor kid will always have this shadow of suspicion over him. People will think Mom lied to keep him out of jail. And this violent, aggressive kid by day comes to sleep in mom's bed like a baby at night? Not sure what to make of that.

My kid, too, has been diagnosed with ADHD/Aspergers. There seem to be a number of us!
The earlier years were a nightmare. He had to be reminded, over and over, to say- stand back from someone when you talk to them, don't invade their personal space! But now, as a young teen, he's a really good kid- disorganized, but nice and polite and very normal. That said, he would never want to sleep in my bed or get anywhere near me in just underwear. The nicest thing I can say is that this mother has not taught her kid about boundaries.
 
Update Courtesy of @PsychoKitty :

A teenager from the United Kingdom who was accused of raping his mother while she slept has been found not guilty.

According to the mom’s original story, she awoke to find her 14-year-old son on top of her.

Here is what she originally told police:

“I woke up and found my 14-year-old son on top of me, inside me,” she told investigators. “I don’t know how long he had been there.”
“I had so many things going through my head – where am I? Who’s this? What am I doing? And then I have realized the enormity of the situation, that it was my son. And I just screamed.”
The woman then sat in fear as her son left the room.
“I just sat there holding my covers, screaming and thinking ‘what the hell’s just gone on?’ All sorts was going through my head. Is he just sleepwalking?”

“Does he know what he is doing? Is he aware? Now I am actually thinking what state is he in? Does he know what he has done?”

The boy had a history of behavioral problems and was on medication. He also got into bed with his mother on a regular basis, according to Mirror.

The boy, who is now 15, denied the rape from the beginning.

At trial, the boy’s mother changed her story and said she was “99.9% sure” she had dreamed the incident after a night of drinking.

That turn of events led to the boy being found not guilty on all charges in the case.

http://latest.com/2015/05/mom-who-a...admits-dreaming-up-sex-ordeal-after-drinking/
 
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