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Abroad

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I was a bit surprised not to see this historical case on here already. Please combine if it is here.

The case of a notorious child killer who became the first man to be convicted under DNA evidence is being considered by the Parole Board.

Colin Pitchfork was given a life sentence in 1988 for the rape and murder of 15-year-old schoolgirls Lynda Mann and Dawn Ashworth, from Leicestershire.

The mother of one of the girls said "life should mean life".

Barbara Ashworth said: "I think the key should have been thrown away long ago."

Pitchfork was caught after the world's first mass screening for DNA, in which 5,000 men were asked to volunteer blood or saliva samples. Initially, he evaded capture by getting a friend to take the test for him.

He was given a life sentence with a minimum term of 30 years.

The Lord Chief Justice at the time, Lord Lane, said: "From the point of view of the safety of the public I doubt if he should ever be released."

But in 2009, the Court of Appeal reduced the minimum term to 28 years to take into account the "exceptional progress" Pitchfork had made in custody.

The court said the former baker had sought to address the reasons for his offending, achieved "a high standard of education, to degree level", never been placed "on report" while in custody and was "trusted to help with the well-being" of fellow inmates.

It added that Pitchfork, who is now 55, had become a specialist in transcribing printed music into Braille, work which was used across the UK and internationally.

Parole Board figures for 2013-14 show that of 1,161 lifers who had oral hearings about one-third, 379, were released, 313 were refused parole and 469 were recommended for transfer to an open prison.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-32487464
 
The mother of one of the girls said "life should mean life".
Barbara Ashworth said: "I think the key should have been thrown away long ago."
I echo both of these sentiments.

No way in Hell this guy should be considered for parole now or ever.
 
I was a bit surprised not to see this historical case on here already.

No kidding! Especially since Dr. Alec Jeffreys from the University of Leicestershire is the professor/geneticist responsible for pioneering DNA-based identification testing in the first place. :)

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@Abroad (don't kill me for this), but I do like the way you posted it as a question. This case, in particular, is kind of rare and really comes to the very heart of why we call it a "Corrections System" in the first place both here in the U.S. and in the U.K. as opposed to the old, antiquated term, the "Penal System." Our countries both decided "Corrections" over "Punishment" was the ultimate, desirable end outcome.

With rehab being the obvious goal of both our prison systems, though your rehab programs are far and away superior to ours (except for the occasional case of the Open Air inmates escaping/reoffending once in awhile), since you posed the question, do you have an opinion on this one? *ducks any incoming flying objects* ;) :)
 
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I completely understand the mother's position, and anybody who read about his crimes would feel revulsion.

However, it is 27 years since he was put away, and it does sound to me from the article as though he is sincere in his remorse and has worked hard to better himself and to try and change himself. I don't think this is pretense. The effort he has shown would appear to be too sustained for that. So, I think possibly we should start working towards letting him out, so he can contribute to society more actively (and pay taxes again!). It would need to be a process, though. I wouldn't feel happy about him just being let out and left to his own devises from day one.

I very much doubt I have surprised you, @gatekeeper ?
 
@Abroad - Lol. Not at all. <3 I suspect you already knew why I asked the question - it wasn't to challenge you, it was to agree with you. I lost myself there for a minute when I did the first, quick read through without realizing what I was actually saying.

My original 10 second knee-jerk response was "Nope, let him rot. *slams her gavel* Next!" And, then I caught myself. I went back and reread the story and thought, "Wait a minute, this guy is the proverbial "poster child" for what we're supposed to be all about in the Criminal Justice systems in both our countries. If this guy's not a candidate for the entire point/root of the "Corrections" system in the first place, then who is?

My immediate response really bothered me b/c it was purely punitive there for a minute and I realized, as someone who *does* believe some former criminals can be (and are) successfully rehabilitated with the right programs in place (more like yours along with putting much more effort into in ours than we currently have in most prisons) how purely hypocritical I was being. I love being able to shoot off my mouth about Joe Average POS criminal sharing the same air as the rest of us, but with this man's nearly 30 year history, if he doesn't meet the criteria for someone to be eased out of the system safely and correctly, no one does.

I am NOT saying he's now a choir boy, nor am I saying I completely trust he'd never nut up and offend again, but this guy has done everything he's been asked to do by "civilized" society and more for nearly three decades without so much as an in-house ticket for any sort of disruptive behavior of any kind. I certainly don't want him living next door to me (I understand that sentiment), but at this point, if he's not at least given a chance via the right follow up programs and supervision to ease back into society, anything less in the "Corrections" systems is pure hypocrisy, IMO.
 
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What the fuck else did he have to do? As if we don't have intelligent pedophile murderers! If I was in prison for possible life, that's what I'd do too. I don't give a damn how long he has been there, I don't care what he did with his spare fucking time in there, and I REALLY don't give a fuck, what his free fucking therapy gave him the time to discover about himself while doing NOTHING FUCKING ELSE! He took two beautiful girls from their families, he RAPED, not sexually assaulted, and MURDERED these TWO young girls! This is a SLAP in the face to the victims and their families. I am sorry but hell fucking NO! Had he just raped the two girls and let them live? Then maybe 27 years would be ok, but no way! :rage: If we have learned nothing else in this forum, that these people do not change and I am not willing to lose my children/grandchildren for a test run, are you?
 
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Here's the history of the shift that explains the shift from "Penal systems" to our current "Corrections" system from the actual New World Encyclopedia (not a wiki). Lots of good info. on how it came about and evolved into what we have today.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Prison

I don't care what we call it, IMPO, as long as it's not a big, fat, federal/state, taxpayer-funded and privatized, hypocritical lie. If we're never gonna parole people, cool - just tell the truth about it and stop the bullshit. Let LWOP mean LWOP and call it good. Do it right, and we can cut WAY the hell down on all the years and billions of appellate dollars spent. Truth-in-sentencing and STOP the "good time" crock. There's an alternative right there. My state's up to 80% now while some states still knock off 2/3 of inmate sentences and still others others let 1st Degree murderers walk in 7 yrs.

I don't mind if we go back to the "Hard 40" busting rocks and chain gangs (love LA and AZ, btw). In fact, a huge part of me really likes the idea, but the govs will never go for it nationwide again, too much big, BIG money in prison labor in the U.S. and the APA. AMA and court's evidence/proof of "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" being doled out in different prisons across the country will still stand so we can retain our "cilvilized" society status among our world peers.

Unfortunately, it was our own fault prisons were turned into "Corrections" with the addition of rehab instead in the first place. Because of the random, rampant, skull cracking with iron bars and batons, inmate rapes by "jailers", inmates murdered and/or maimed in custody, months long confinements in literal, dark "holes" in the ground with locked, trap door covers that allowed them to fill up with deep rain water (that's why Admin./Disciplinary Seg. is still called "the Hole" today), or 5X5X5 brick/concrete blocks structures outside the main prison with no light and a hole in the floor, years of 24/7 isolation in stone/metal/concrete cells the size of a one man shower stall in total darkness for weeks/months at a time, deliberate starvation/dehydration, rat bites, and other random abuses no one cared about, things changed. A guy steals a loaf of bread for his family, goes to prison for a year, comes out brain damaged and paraplegic. Stuff like that.

Conditions and abuse for something as simple as being drunk in public, a bar fight, urinating in public, etc., suffered the same abuses as the murderers, rapists and true deviants as well as those wrongfully charged, convicted and imprisoned. The old Devil's Island wasn't the half of it in some prisons, not to mention all the sick, twisted "experiments" docs and psych doctors could freely do and all the long ago condemned psych treatments they were freely allowed to do. Make it what you want. Again, they can call it what they want as long as they're not shoving some bullshit, hypocritical lie down people's throats and they're buying it. As always, JMO. YMMV.
 
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The government had challenged the Parole Board's decision that Pitchfork was "suitable for release" following a hearing in March. But in a statement, the board said the appeal has been refused.

Reacting to the decision, Dawn Ashworth's mother Barbara Ashworth said it was "disappointing" but added: "He can't hurt me anymore".

She said: "I've had 33 years of it and it's all been said and as far as I'm concerned he's going to be out in amongst the public so it speaks for itself."


Pitchfork, who is now in his early 60s, was sentenced to life after pleading guilty to two murders, two rapes, two indecent assaults and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
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Colin Pitchfork: Murderer who raped and killed schoolgirls to be freed after government loses legal challenge​

Pitchfork had raped and killed one of his victims while his baby son was sleeping in the back of his car.

A double child murderer and rapist is set to be freed from prison after a challenge against his release was rejected today.

Colin Pitchfork has served 33 years in prison for raping and strangling 15-year-olds Lynda Mann and Dawn Ashworth in two separate attacks in the 1980s in Leicestershire.

In 1988, he became the first person to be convicted of murder with the help of DNA evidence. He admitted two murders, two rapes, two indecent assaults and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

Pitchfork, 61, who calls himself David Thorpe, was a baker aged 22 and married with two sons at the time of the first murder. He grew up in rural Leicestershire and lived in the village of Littlethorpe.

In November 1983, in the neighbouring village Narborough, he left his baby son sleeping in the back of his car to rape and strangle Lynda. He then drove home and put his son to bed. Lynda’s body was found the next morning dumped along a footpath.

In July 1986, in nearby village Enderby, he raped and murdered Dawn. The pathologist who examined her body, that was found hidden under branches in a field two days after the attack, said it showed signs of a “brutal sexual assault”.

An investigation initially led to the wrong person – a 17-year-old who had learning difficulties and had known Dawn. During questioning he would repeatedly say he had killed her and then withdraw the admission. Tests later showed that his DNA did not match that of the same person who attacked Dawn and Lynda.

Police then launched the unprecedented operation of having more than 5,500 blood samples of men screened. Pitchfork had initially evaded justice by persuading a colleague, Ian Kelly, to take the test for him using a forged passport as ID. Pitchfork told Kelly that he wanted to avoid being harassed by police because of prior convictions for indecent exposure.

But this plot was foiled after a woman overheard Kelly in a pub confessing to being paid £200 by Pitchfork to take the test.
Pitchfork was arrested. Under questioning, he had admitted to having exposed himself to more than 1,000 women.

His profile matched DNA left at both crime scenes and he pleaded guilty to the murders in 1987. He was sentenced to life the following year. The judge said the killings were “particularly sadistic” and he doubted Pitchfork would ever be released.

A psychiatric report, which recorded a “personality disorder of psychopathic type accompanied by serious psychosexual pathology”, warned that Pitchfork “will obviously continue to be an extremely dangerous individual while the psychopathology continues”.

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~ @gatekeeper ~ I'm wholeheartedly with you on sentencing. Life should mean life.

It is a certainty that the two fifteen years old Linda and Dawn who were so brutally raped, murdered and tossed under the nearest undergrowth will have no reprieve.

Their families serve and will continue to serve a sentence of life without them.
 
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