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How do you not understand that us not understanding you isn't mockery? However, seeing as you have no problem insulting and belittling us, I'm not sure why we bothered not to mock you as long as we did.
Yet you post to get off topic and move it into personal. Unless you post to remove victimhood, blame game & entitlement from Politically Correct activism, YOU are turning this into a childish personal bickering.

I'm not sure why I need to defend staying on topic, slow learners?
You do not mention why, or give an example of what "your" version of victimhood, blame & game entitlement is, or why it’s NOT part of PC. Hey, back on topic, that's not so hard (hint, hint).
None of these words mean what you think they mean. Your definitions are wrong. You can tell us them all you like, but you don't get to change the meanings of english words to match your narrative.
Then quit deflecting and prove it. You accuse me of not understanding, yet the meaning of Deflection is "the deviation of the indicator of an instrument from the position taken as zero."
Adults strive to gain, a child's first breath qualifies as a positive gain, personalizing the messenger takes the discussion to zero. A simple example of mockery. To make the messenger the focus, not the message. Now that is an insult in a civilized society.
It's quite simple, don't reply if you depend personalizing to deflect an ideology.
The constructive criticism above contains “your wrong I'm right retort”
No qualifier, counter point given or a semblance of fact based correction. This is not my definition of Constructive, but it meets basic destructive needs. Once again, Off Topic we go to deflect/defend basic civility.

If you can’t quantify your rebuttal, then YOU lower this into a child’s sandbox.
Uh, that reads like a non English speaker used Google translate and then threw in all the big words they knew.
That's funny, smart friend. Does you friend also define "victimhood, blame game & entitlement" as to distance itself from Politically Correct activism?
You're on a roll, go sister go!
 
Full Definition of DEBATE

a : the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure

b : a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

Yep, it's a shame. It could've been interesting.
 
WTF IS "victimhood, blame game & entitlement" ?!?
I can't believe I missed this. It is what makes Political Correctness work.
Is that using big words? Did not mean to.
It is what our society has become dependent on, to the point that survival instincts have been traded for social welfare.
 
All about attacking the messenger to deflect the topic. Yes, I read you well.
Now, how does your rant fit into topic of PC and Damagedgoods lack of understanding in general?
Stay focused, you're all most there...
 
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Really? Really?! :banghead:

@NoBS: Please state your assertion in the plainest terms you can muster. Start with a single assertion that can be debated. "I believe political correctness is motivated by victimhood." Then list clear, coherent examples to back up your assertion to the best of your ability.

The rest of you: Engage with what you can, or leave it alone.

And, so help me god... the very next meme or .gif locks this thread.

You kids are going to give me a headache.
 
Yes, yes, deflect the topic back to the messenger to avoid on topic. You have that cover very nicely child. Now what was the topic?
Since you disagree with my theory, why does PC not involve self-pity, pass the buck mentality and a socialist welfare manipulations?
 
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Web definition:

politically correct

po·lit·i·cal·ly cor·rect
pəˌlidək(ə)lē kəˈrekt/
adjective
  1. exhibiting (or failing to exhibit) political correctness.
    "it is not politically correct to laugh at speech impediments"
    synonyms: unoffensive, nondiscriminatory, unbiased, neutral, appropriate,nonpartisan;
    informalPC
Merriam Webster:

politically correct

adjective
: agreeing with the idea that people should be careful to not use language or behave in a way that could offend a particular group of people
: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated

Wiki Definition - The history of PC:

Political correctness or political correctitude[1] (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is an attitude or policy of being careful not to offend or upset any group of people in society who are believed to have a disadvantage. Mainstream usage of the term began in the 1990s by right-wing politicians who used the term as a shorthand way of conveying their concerns about the left in academia and in culture. A 1991 article used the term to refer to U.S. academic policies that sought to increase multiculturalism through affirmative action, prevent hate speech, and change the content of the university curriculum. The term was also used by conservatives to criticize progressive teaching methods and curriculum changes in U.S. secondary schools. These debates about curriculum changes have been referred to as a Culture War. In the 1990s, the term was increasingly commonly used in the United Kingdom.

In modern usage, the terms PC, politically correct, and political correctness are generally pejorative descriptors, whereas the term politically incorrect is used by opponents of PC as an implicitly positive self-description, as in the cases of the conservative, topical book-series The Politically Incorrect Guide, and the liberal television talk-show program Politically Incorrect. Disputing this framework are advocates for ending discrimination and scholars on the political left who suggest that the term was redefined in the early 1990s by conservatives and right-wing libertarians for strategic political purposes.

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Though some members have already addressed the issue clearly and/or quite eloquently in their initial responses to the OP before things got off track, for the sake of argument, and with political origins now clear (arguably, as clear as any wiki def can be), maybe we can use all the above definitions to restart the conversation? It really is a great topic (sorry @GenericUser123, I understand! <3 ).
 
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Since I haven't tossed my $.02 in the ante, I'll (re)start with a thesis statement.

While in an ideal world, no person or group should have to be reduced to a "label", we need an accurate, thoughtful way to describe, define and discuss ourselves and others beyond the mere definition of ourselves as human beings. I proffer that "Political Correctness" is a fluid, ever-evolving dynamic that is necessary in our world to avoid going back to the days of inaccurate, often hateful descriptors, racial slurs, sexist commentary, and other largely insulting terms, words or "names" that certain individuals or groups those names would be used against would rightfully find offensive, rude and exclusionary.

K. Shred me. :D

Clarification: "thoughtful" as in "thinking", not thoughtful as in "kind."
 
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Though some members have already addressed the issue clearly and/or quite eloquently in their initial responses to the OP before things got off track, for the sake of argument, and with political origins now clear (arguably, as clear as any wiki def can be), maybe we can use all the above definitions to restart to conversation? It really is a great topic
At one time, all the established scientist agreed the world was flat. It was flat, as far as the eyes could see.
While PC is defined as a noun/adjective, PC activism is used as a weapon more often as of late. This activism has become a reactionary tool for social progress. While not all of it is bad, it has been become a weapon of choice to elicit a response based on emotion, or worse, thought control. That means that PC has evolved faster than our culture is ready to admit.

Take Occupy Wall Street, pure emotional activism with a victim (99% ers), an antagonist (bankers and corporate greed) and entitlement (redistribution of wealth).
Was not OWS activism an action? As in a verb?
The direct result of PC in action was based on emotional dependence from Politically Correct words, yet to some folks this is still defined as a noun and or adverb.
I disagree, PC has always involved a form of thought control. Which has now evolved into a verb.
Is this wrong? So far off base as to be a false conclusion? Does not modern language evolve and grow as a consequence of how it is now used?

Yet my original question (OT), do the three trigger words need be included to define what PC activism really is? Which to me is obvious, that is how I can ID PC speech. Am I wrong?
Blame Game, Victimhood and entitlement; Would not a corrective criticism be in the form of removing only one of the following reactionary triggers that would prove me wrong?
Without these three triggers PC is just a adjective that is static, yet activism has hijacked the meaning of PC into a reactionary term.

Yet why is it that PC is not an action or state of being? Is this not a prerequisite of a verb?
Do I just add a hyphen between Political and Correctness to understand how a name evolves into action? Is Politically-correct what I have been chasing?

Or does everyone know that English words are static and I'm way of base?
Crow is admittedly gamey, yet I will continue to eat crow if constructive criticism can rely on a reasoned counter-point.
"Political Correctness is dead."
GOOD.
If this was true, then the LGBT and Hands Up activist are only borrowing a couple of letters in PC.
 
At one time, all the established scientist agreed the world was flat. It was flat, as far as the eyes could see.
While PC is defined as a noun/adjective, PC activism is used as a weapon more often as of late. This activism has become a reactionary tool for social progress. While not all of it is bad, it has been become a weapon of choice to elicit a response based on emotion, or worse, thought control. That means that PC has evolved faster than our culture is ready to admit.

Take Occupy Wall Street, pure emotional activism with a victim (99% ers), an antagonist (bankers and corporate greed) and entitlement (redistribution of wealth).
Was not OWS activism an action? As in a verb?
The direct result of PC in action was based on emotional dependence from Politically Correct words, yet to some folks this is still defined as a noun and or adverb.
I disagree, PC has always involved a form of thought control. Which has now evolved into a verb.
Is this wrong? So far off base as to be a false conclusion? Does not modern language evolve and grow as a consequence of how it is now used?

Yet my original question (OT), do the three trigger words need be included to define what PC activism really is? Which to me is obvious, that is how I can ID PC speech. Am I wrong?
Blame Game, Victimhood and entitlement; Would not a corrective criticism be in the form of removing only one of the following reactionary triggers that would prove me wrong?
Without these three triggers PC is just a adjective that is static, yet activism has hijacked the meaning of PC into a reactionary term.

Yet why is it that PC is not an action or state of being? Is this not a prerequisite of a verb?
Do I just add a hyphen between Political and Correctness to understand how a name evolves into action? Is Politically-correct what I have been chasing?

Or does everyone know that English words are static and I'm way of base?
Crow is admittedly gamey, yet I will continue to eat crow if constructive criticism can rely on a reasoned counter-point.

If this was true, then the LGBT and Hands Up activist are only borrowing a couple of letters in PC.


Good post. That provides a lot more information in context.

So, in one aspect, the "victimhood" aspect, specifically, am I right in interpreting you to mean (and these are my words, not snarky or challenging at all b/c I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you on all levels), that within our social structure, the need to define certain individuals or groups accurately and in a non-biased way, political correctness has also had a cultural side effect of creating what some would call "whiners" and "crybabies" (remember, my words, not yours)? And if so, can you see any way around this side effect that would fulfill our need for equal, nondiscriminatory identification and representation without this evolving, and IMO (just mine) natural side effect as the pendulum of progress continues to swing?
 
Excellent point!
So there needs to be a whiny sniveling loser in order to have a self-pity collective dumped on an innocent recipient who has met the minimum requirements.
That's almost like manufacturing a second class victim!
This is good how?
Is this not counter productive?
Thank you for making sense, well, umm (spitting crow feathers) ... respect.
 
Give up now @gatekeeper, lol. Before you get driven to the point of knitting shit that isn't there and going on about how this one guy in this one thread never lived up to his name. And that will make me :(.
 
Give up now @gatekeeper, lol. Before you get driven to the point of knitting shit that isn't there and going on about how this one guy in this one thread never lived up to his name. And that will make me :(.

LOL!! (knitting shit that isn't there :hilarious: ). Thanks for tagging me. I didn't see there'd been a response. My posts and response were sincere efforts to try and restart an intelligent exchange on the subject. I'm certainly convinced now and I will indeed take your sage advice. <3
 
While gatekeeper raises the bar, FallenAngle trips.
Minimize the messenger to deflect the topic.
Maybe this site needs a sandbox?
It's all good FallenA, we all trip.
 
At one time, all the established scientist agreed the world was flat. It was flat, as far as the eyes could see.
Since ancient times (circa 300 BC) it has been acknowledged that the Earth is a sphere. Even the Alexandria academia had a pretty good approximation of Earth's diameter. The discussion with Columbus was not that the Earth was flat, but how large...

me, being obnoxious...
 
Really? Really?! :banghead:

@NoBS: Please state your assertion in the plainest terms you can muster. Start with a single assertion that can be debated. "I believe political correctness is motivated by victimhood." Then list clear, coherent examples to back up your assertion to the best of your ability.

The rest of you: Engage with what you can, or leave it alone.

And, so help me god... the very next meme or .gif locks this thread.

You kids are going to give me a headache.

"BUT MOMMMMMMMMMMM!"

(I have nothing to offer.)
 
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