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Survey Claims 1/3 Of Male College Students Would Rape A Woman If They Knew They Wouldn't Get Caught

[enter Twilight Zone theme] Hmmm, how totally creepy would it be if this really were some legit guy who was sitting alone at his computer with us surrounded by all his rape porn processing this out as fantasy is beginning to crossing the line into reality... Of course, I have been guilt of watching a little too much ID from time to time. :D
 
since no one asked I will tell you. In another post I posted that I was raped my someone at a fastfood place when I was very young. I did not post the it was a male. I also do not remember much about it. I have been in therapy for it. I have been off and on meds my hole life.

I was thinking about posting to "why you are here" the other day but did not. I hope some of you will try to understand this. I read this and other boards as victim impact panel. But I use it as a deterrent along with my meds. These boards help me to understand why my thoughts are wrong and keep me from doing anything. Posting helps me let it out and not kept in. As for suicide. yes I have thought about it off and one for over 30 years. If I do then you are right it is my time to die. Everyone is right in what they say except that I'm not a troll.
 
@Donald , I did remember you from the other thread and I appreciate your honesty in the above post but as to the first one about "forced sex" not being rape and how you would consider it payback. You legitimately scare the Hell out of me.

I understand that you are a survivor. I am one to, gang rape at age 13 by some "star" football players. I was called vile names, I was blamed and I was tormented because I went to school with them until the day I graduate, a year early just to get away from it all. But just because I had the misfortune of meeting those twisted and sick fucks doesn't give me the right to even consider avenging my pain on innocent people, in fact if I were to do that I would be the next Aileen Wurnos because she became a killer to avenge her rape.

What my status as a survivor gives me the right to do is: help others, spew hate at the guilty, especially those who have committed the crime of rape and to pull up my big girl panties and not just survive but THRIVE to give one giant "fuck you" to my rapists because while they never faced the charges for what they did to me, Karma visited them and she was a cruel bitch when she did.

One day I was a victim of a crime and the perps' weapon of choice were their penises but I don't get to go around playing Bobbitt and removing penises just because I was a victim. I don't get to make more victims or even "dream" of making more victims just because I once was one. In fact in my opinion doing that would make me worse than my rapists because I know better than most what it feels like to be the victim and for that reason I should be one of the last people who wants to victimize others.
 
Ditto. I think you'll find that there are a LOT of victims of sexual abuse. I can't even recall how many molested me. I THINK 6, But there might be more.
I assure you, I tried suicide a number of times. Thankfully I failed.
I am on a daily struggle to stay stable. Some days its easy. Some days its really hard. I will be on medication the rest of my life. That was hard to come to terms with because who wants to be labelled crazy?
I really don't want to give you those tired old cliches, but tomorrow really is another day. There IS HOPE. (I hate cliches.)
I don't think you are a troll. I DO think you need assistance.
 
@rod2pop speaking of bizarre have you head the one about someone walks up to you and ask are you out of your mind and you say yes it is dark and spooky in their.?

Thanks @Buffettgirl, @Valasca and @Krystal. All three of you give me hope. Maybe it is time to go back into therapy. I tend to go overboard when someone I know hurts me.
 
Donald said:
I live in Nevada where it it legal to pay for sex . and forced sex because you are horny is not rape but still wrong But if there is an online poll I would have to say I think about it from time to time. For me it is payback for women who have hurt me both physically and mentally.
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He types amongst us. Beware.

Please divine whatever logic it is you use to believe that subjugating women and violating them sexually for angering you is acceptable. Especially, in a forum full of those that have been victimized.

No molly coddling. Being a victim doesn't give you a free pass to say shit like that 'round here.

Did I make you angry?:nailbiting:
 
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Sorry no @Macabre. I have taken crap in person all my life. I got used to it overtime. I hurt a little that you and others misunderstood me. I was talking about what has been said before that rape is an act of violence and not sexual in nature. But like in person I confused people when i speak. So I do not speak much. You and others have a right to your opinions.
 
This is the reason I am now armed. I realize that no matter how much I think I could defend myself from someone else, I'm not a big girl and they would over power me.

1/3 though. I mean, thinking and doing are two different things but fuck that is sorta past the point of a fantasy.
 
Donald said:
Sorry no @Macabre. I have taken crap in person all my life. I got used to it overtime. I hurt a little that you and others misunderstood me. I was talking about what has been said before that rape is an act of violence and not sexual in nature. But like in person I confused people when i speak. So I do not speak much. You and others have a right to your opinions.
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This did not in the least bit make any sense. Try again.

The first time around you didn't seem to have any issues with letting your thoughts be known.

Rape is an act of sexual violence. How can it be one and not the other?

You have been communicating rather well here. I've seen your other posts. Gimme a break.
 
@Macabre Rape is an an act of violence and power that someone has over the the other. Not that he or she is just plain horny and wants to have sex. Rape is very violentent using force. The person is in a rage his or her thoughts might or might not be lustful. It is more of hate and rage.

Anyone want to help me out.
 
Donald said:
@Macabre Rape is an an act of violence and power that someone has over the the other. Not that he or she is just plain horny and wants to have sex. Rape is very violentent using force. The person is in a rage his or her thoughts might or might not be lustful. It is more of hate and rage.

Anyone want to help me out.
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Rape is an act of sexual violence. It is sexual in nature because it directly correlates to the violation of a person's sexual organs or genitalia. The psychological nature of rape from a perpetrator does not have to be lustful in order to receive sexual gratification or gratification in general. It is about power. It can come from hate and rage. It is still sexual in nature though.

We don't call a fist fight rape. We don't call physical abuse rape.

Rape is rape whichever way you slice it. For you to come here amongst women that have been raped and openly state that you think about raping people because they have hurt you is a slap in the face.

Don't expect any help explaining things from them. They aren't rapists.
 
Donald said:
I live in Nevada where it it legal to pay for sex . and forced sex because you are horny is not rape but still wrong But if there is an online poll I would have to say I think about it from time to time. For me it is payback for women who have hurt me both physically and mentally.
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If anything, you're honest. Whether I agree or disagree, I most definitely appreciate your being candid.
 
Well she's right that rape is sexual violence. You can't have a dick and vagina coming in contact with one of them not wanting it and think it's not sexual. What I think you are talking about is power play. It's not rape because there is underlying consent between two parties. It's not done out of resentment, or hate but as a game of sorts. Much like angry sex but with regard for your partners well being. Rape lacks that compassion. It's a solo, violent act.

If you fantasize about being the one in control and having rough sex, then that isn't rape unless the other party is not a willing participant.

Rape also doesn't have to be violent. If you are intoxicated beyond the point of being able to stay conscious and you wake to someone fucking you without your consent, that's rape. Just because it isn't traumatic, doesn't mean it isn't what it is.
 
I know this poll is bullshit and i'm a tad late to the thread, but the question is kind of a dumb one. Even if the 1/3 stat was genuine, i don't think it's that telling of peoples actual values or beliefs about assault.

Forensicwx said:
if there were no consequences
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How many dweeby douchebags might read this very important aspect of the question and think that it isn't ONLY talking about legal consequences? If i'm some dipshit, likely smart ass college student , always overthinking shit, i'm going to read this to mean that there are literally ZERO consequences of ANY kind. That means no negative effect whatsoever, to include no damage or harm be it physical/emotional/pyschological to the victim.

If you take it literally it reads as some beyond absurd, almost offensively fantastical hypothetical. In a world where people are effected in NO negative way by sexual assault, would you ever possibly do it. Can we even judge a person providing a "yes" answer to something this outlandish and in no way applicable to the real world? For every shithead, chauvinistic date-rapey party fucktard type, there's a dweebo smartass who's likely going to take it 100% literally. Colleges are FULL of both, it's quite annoying.

Bunch of worthless, pointless nonsense. Could have spent the time/resoucres doing some actual education/awareness stuff instead of some crude, goof-ass poll
 
Donald said:
Sorry no @Macabre. I have taken crap in person all my life. I got used to it overtime. I hurt a little that you and others misunderstood me. I was talking about what has been said before that rape is an act of violence and not sexual in nature. But like in person I confused people when i speak. So I do not speak much. You and others have a right to your opinions.
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Ok @Donald, I'm going to give you an easy out here because I truly don't understand whether you meant to say the offending words this is only because my step father was a convicted rapist who never raped again, never touched me or my sister, but was in the swinging lifestyle forever to "help"???? I don't even fucking know.. Child abused by prostitute mom's clients, I guess. (meaning my stepfather) yes or no is fine.

1. Did you mean to say it was ok to force sex because you've been hurt?
2. Did you mean to say because you were abused that you have had these thoughts?
3. Have you ever forced sex on someone who hurt you?
4. Add anything to these questions we may need to know?

I would also like to ask any forum members if they've ever heard of a study on these thoughts being usual in male victims, there is so much out there about female victims and my being a female and I may get shit for saying this, but if I am in a situation where a man is in violent power over me, home invasion, late night break in, I have it INGRAINED that I will most likely be raped, I am not so sure men have this same horrible mindset.
 
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@Sassedame Thank you for your post. Sometimes on this and other boards I want to post but keep my mouth closed because I know I will piss someone off.

1. no
2. yes
3. no
sometimes thought of rape or child rape are so strong that I have and will continue to hurt myself. Something like cutting but I do not cut or draw blood. feeling pain makes the thoughts go away. Reading this board and others like it also helps keep the thoughts away because I can read how wrong it is and know how others feel about it.
 
Brenni said:
@Donald Oh my :(
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I truly understand. I have read these forums for years and had not seen this kind of response before. As victims of child sex abuse grow up and knowing that they do reoffend many times I have to give props to @Donald for his honesty and thank God he fights to NOT reoffend. We absolutely cannot compare each victims journey and quite frankly knowing that many victims do reoffend for the reasons @Donald stated I'm not surprised he has these thoughts. However scary they came across. Clarification was necessary.
 
I have a real problem with dismissing rape as being "all about power and control" and not acknowledging that some rapes really are about sex. It's dangerous to say that. There really is such a thing as date rape, and to confuse the issue isn't going to help people (young girls in particular) to recognize and report a rape b/c it was done by their boyfriend or some guy they know. Yeah, if you want to get technical about, not taking no for an answer is about power, but in the immediate sense, date rape is all about "I'm horny and she won't put it, so fuck it, I'm getting some regardless." Hell, some guys will fool themselves into thinking "once I start, she'll just get into it and then it won't be rape!"

Fact is, there's plenty of things people do to have power and control over you, but it's only rape if they're using their genitals. That means there has to be a sexual aspect to it, so divorcing it from sex is misguided at best. We don't need to murk up the waters any more than a date rape situation already does (too many women have a difficult time recognizing and reporting these situations as rape and try to rationalize it away).
 
So you're saying unwanted penetration by foreign objects isn't rape? Good to know. Lets put stuff in your ass that you don't want there, cause thats totally cool apparently.

That kind of mentality doesn't surprise me from the guy who considered using a service heavily tied to sex slavery and human trafficking.
 
mobiusclimber said:
I have a real problem with dismissing rape as being "all about power and control" and not acknowledging that some rapes really are about sex. It's dangerous to say that. There really is such a thing as date rape, and to confuse the issue isn't going to help people (young girls in particular) to recognize and report a rape b/c it was done by their boyfriend or some guy they know. Yeah, if you want to get technical about, not taking no for an answer is about power, but in the immediate sense, date rape is all about "I'm horny and she won't put it, so fuck it, I'm getting some regardless." Hell, some guys will fool themselves into thinking "once I start, she'll just get into it and then it won't be rape!"

Fact is, there's plenty of things people do to have power and control over you, but it's only rape if they're using their genitals. That means there has to be a sexual aspect to it, so divorcing it from sex is misguided at best. We don't need to murk up the waters any more than a date rape situation already does (too many women have a difficult time recognizing and reporting these situations as rape and try to rationalize it away).
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I have to disagree with you there.

rape

noun
1.
unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.

Anything unwanted entering you is considered rape.
 
Countess Olenska said:
Anything unwanted entering you is considered rape.
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So if I stab you with a knife or shoot you with a bullet, it's rape? Those are unwanted things entering you, right? Hell if I were to shoot up someone's vagina, it still wouldn't be rape unless I used the gun like a dildo first. I don't think you can completely divorce the sexual act from rape, no matter how many contortions you put the language through. Yes, there are sickos out there who rape because it's the most soul-destroying thing they can think of to do. There are also people out there who rape just to get their rocks off, and would have been fine with consensual sex had it been offered. Again, I think it's dangerous to not acknowledge both types of rape.
 
And yes, I didn't think about being penetrated with a foreign object, I wasn't trying to think about all the ways someone could rape another person. That still doesn't change my actual point tho. Glad to see people are still happy to bust out the personal attacks for no fuckin' reason tho.
 
You knew damn well what she meant by entering the body, and it sure as hell wasn't anywhere but orifices.

You really feel the need to separate rape from power and control, which I find to be somewhat disturbing. Rape is an inherently violent act that people don't do simply cause they are horny. Nobody calmly rapes another person gently.

And yeah, I did bring up your attempt at soliciting prostitution advice because it is relevant. It shows a pattern of your dissmissiveness toward sexual exploitation.
 
Oh you being a rape apologist isn't too hard for me to comprehend. I bet you're a "male rights activist" too huh?
 
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