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@carolinablue, from conversations i had while in the area, apparently stephanie came off as abrasive. but considering what has been said that she has gone through, hell, i would be pretty abrasive as well.
But an attorney for Hayden claims Ford’s charges against her father are coming with an agenda.
“After 45 shows and 20 years, this is the first I've heard of it,
I agree, but I'd be less suspicious of her motives (And I'm not really suspicious, I'm just not so sure she's been as protective as she should have been.) if she'd backed her little sister up the SECOND the sister came out about being raped. One of my best friends was molested for years by her asshole stepfather. The thing that made her tell and not back down, not be intimidated(And believe me that bastard tried.) is that her little sister was coming up to the age that that bastard started on her. She was 12 at the time and STILL being molested on a regular basis, she wasn't an adult, she had no husband to lean on, and very little support outside of myself... all she had was her concern for her sister. After she told, asshole denied it and her mom believed him, but thought he was still being a jerk, so he promised to be nicer and let him stay. My friend still didn't back down and eventually it became clear who was full of shit, but I can't imagine being 12, telling my mom that and then having to live with the bastard as if nothing happened.An awful lot of survivors don't deal with sexual abuse until years, even decades, after the abuse. You just want to shove it down, not remember it, not think about it, not talk about it. If she does have an agenda, it might well have been triggered by sister's accusation. Her thoughts may have gone like this, "Bad enough he did that to me, but my little sister? Oh, FUCK THAT! I'm going to tell what he did to me when I was her age! It's time people know what kind of perverted monster he is."
I think Stephanie is finally feeling and dealing with the anger and betrayal sexual abuse leaves. It's kind of like trying to hold a basketball underwater. You can do it for quite a while, but the effort it takes is enormous. I give her a pass; now that this is out, I think she's just starting to deal with the heartbreak, grief and rage a betrayal this enormous engenders. And dealing with that is a full-time job...if you want to stay out of jail.
He has an adult daughter too, who he works with and who has great admiration for him (as seen on the show). If he was molesting his daughters it probably wouldn't just start now. I'm willing to bet the scorned ex just thought she's ruin his life and carreer because he left. Watch a couple of episodes...his respect for his daughter is evident. I know that's not the daughter in question, but I think it is relevent.
'Sons of Guns' Hayden
Charged With Another Rape...
From 22 Years Ago
9/8/2014 11:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/will-hayden-rape-charges-sons-of-guns-victim-marijuana/#ixzz3Cm7jsNOE
Will Hayden's skeletons are running out of the closet ... because another person is coming forward claiming she was forcibly raped 22 years ago at 12-years-old.
The victim -- who is now 34-years-old -- claims she was living with Will at the time because a fire destroyed her home.
According to the law enforcement release ... she claims she and Will smoked marijuana together one night -- and then he allegedly placed his hand over her mouth, laid his entire body on top of her, and raped her.
The woman claims Will told her not to tell anyone ... and she didn't come forward earlier because she didn't know if her family would believe her.
Officials in Baton Rouge have now charged Will with another count of forcible rape ... as he still sits behind bars.
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Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/will-hayden-rape-charges-sons-of-guns-victim-marijuana/#ixzz3Cm7dCr2M
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The Discovery Channel on Wednesday announced the cancellation of “Sons of Guns,” a reality TV show about a Baton Rouge gun shop, after the show’s star was arrested Tuesday onaccusations of rape.
......The authorities first arrested Hayden in early August after a woman told detectives she saw a naked Hayden kissing a young girl inappropriately inside his Greenwell Springs Road home. The second arrest came Tuesday after the girl told detectives with the East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff’s Office in a follow-up interview that Hayden raped her many times between March 2013 and June 2014, according to affidavits in support of warrants for his arrest.
The girl told detectives, according to the latest affidavit, that she didn’t disclose the alleged rapes when first questioned by investigators because she feared retaliation from Hayden.
/QUOTE]@carolinablue And @MOTD
The "sucking and groping, do you know what was done" line from dude's poem is still skeeving me the fuck out. I told my husband I'd leave him if he ever started writing poetry about my being molested and then posting it on facebook. I lied a bit. It wouldn't need to be posted to the internet for me to go skedaddling the other direction.I am glad my instincts were spot on. But I had no clue that he took the innocence from so many young girls. I feel for the older sister. Her husband should be whacked on his head for the poetry. It came off as clownish. I know he tried, but damn, I thought I was reading prose from a 7th grade girls diary.
And as for the younger sister, I know for a fact, against all odds of anyone believing her, she spoke up, it was hard. Her dad was admired, had a fan base, television show, money. That's a powerful moment, to be vindicated. Now others are speaking up against this pedophile, all because of her. She may not know this, but she actually saved other girls from his future predatory ways.
I am in awe.
I imagine she was in denial for so many years, convincing herself that it didn't happen was a way of life for her. I think it probably just took a minute for her to abandon that mentality. I have been so protective over lies that were only for the sake of someone else that I would have vehemently denied the truth at the slightest mention of it no matter who brought it up.I'm just not so sure she's been as protective as she should have been.) if she'd backed her little sister up the SECOND the sister came out about being raped
After spending several years in the limelight in front of television cameras, former "Sons of Guns" reality TV personality Will Hayden will be sentenced to spend the rest of his life behind bars after a jury unanimously convicted him Friday of raping two preteen girls more than two decades apart in East Baton Rouge Parish.
The 51-year-old Hayden's accusers, a 15-year-old girl and a 37-year-old woman who both no longer live in Louisiana, cried and hugged inside state District Judge Mike Erwin's courtroom as the verdicts were announced: guilty on two counts of aggravated rape and one count of forcible rape.
Hayden, of Greenwell Springs, will be sentenced May 11. Aggravated rape carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison.
The jury of six women and six men deliberated for an hour following four days of testimony, including emotionally charged testimony from the girl and woman.
Hayden also faces sex crimes charges in Livingston Parish, including an aggravated rape count involving the 15-year-old girl and a sex crime charge involving his oldest daughter and former "Sons of Guns" co-star Stephanie Hayden. She appeared on the "Dr. Phil" show in 2014 and said her father entered her bedroom one night about two decades ago while intoxicated and pinched and kissed her while trying to disrobe her. She said she escaped and he did not touch her inappropriately again.
Will Hayden's trial in Livingston is scheduled for July.
She still lying to herself about what happened.Yesterday
o faces sex crimes charges in Livingston Parish, including an aggravated rape count involving the 15-year-old girl and a sex crime charge involving his oldest daughter and former "Sons of Guns" co-star Stephanie Hayden. She appeared on the "Dr. Phil" show in 2014 and said her father entered her bedroom one night about two decades ago while intoxicated and pinched and kissed her while trying to disrobe her. She said she escaped and he did not touch her inappropriately again.
http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/courts/article_a93d7a6a-1bad-11e7-8c58-9b96239d3134.html
Former Sons of Guns star Will Hayden will spend life behind bars for raping young girls. Hayden was unanimously convicted on April 7 on two counts of aggravated rape, and one count of forcible rape for sexually assaulting two preteen girls more than two decades apart in East Baton Rouge Parish.
Judge Mike Erwin sentenced the 51-year-old Greenwell Springs man to two life sentences, plus 40 years which will run concurrently.
In Livingston Parish, Hayden is scheduled for trial July 10 on another aggravated rape count, from the same 15 year old girl that is one of his two accusers in the Baton Rouge case.
Judge Mike Erwin sentenced the 51-year-old Greenwell Springs man to two life sentences, plus 40 years which will run concurrently.
Former "Sons of Guns" reality TV star William Hayden was sentenced in a Livingston Parish court on Wednesday (July 12) to a third life sentence for rape, WAFB reports. About two months ago, a Baton Rouge judge ordered Hayden to serve two life prison terms after a jury there convicted him in a different rape case.
Hayden, whose A&E reality TV show about a Baton Rouge gun store was canceled after his arrest in 2014, pleaded no contest Wednesday to charges of first-degree rape and aggravated incest, the TV station reports. He has the option of withdrawing the plea if he successfully appeals his sentence in the Baton Rouge case. The Livingston Parish case stems from two victims who came forward: one said he raped her in March 2013 when she was 11; the other said he sexually assaulted her in 1995 when she was 12 or 13.
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Hayden was sentenced in May to two life sentences, to run concurrently, plus 40 years, to run consecutively. WAFB reports the sentence Livingston Parish Judge Robert Morrison ordered Wednesday will run concurrently with Hayden's previously ordered sentences.