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An Ohio attorney allegedly hypnotized his female clients and sexually controlled them​
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Ohio attorney secretly hypnotized his female clients, making them perform sex acts while he referred to himself as "the world's greatest lover,"
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The bizarre claims made against Michael Fine, 57, were revealed in an emergency court motion filed to suspend him from practicing law Tuesday after police launched an investigation into his claimed hypnotic spells.
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is accused of posing “a substantial threat of serious harm to the public" by the Lorain County Bar Association after police say they busted one of his lurid sessions with a client earlier this month.

That woman, only identified as "Jane Doe," contacted Sheffield police after numerous meetings with Fine left her with "strange memories and feelings,"
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"She would be unable to recall substantial portions of the meetings, and afterwards she would realize her clothes and bra were out of place and moved, and her vagina was wet," stated investigator Richard Thomas w
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Police advised her not to return to his office — but she did while equipped with a tape recorder.
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in one phone call placed between them on Oct. 10 Fine at first only discussed their court case before learning that she was alone and placing her in "a trance."

"Thereafter, the conversation is of an explicit sexual nature, wherein he induces her into multiple orgasms. Fine refers to himself as her 'teacher' and 'instructor' and that they have a special 'bond' and connection,'"
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"Fine assures her that she will appear normal and only remember their discussions regarding legal matters."

Days later, on Oct. 21 she recorded a second illicit phone call between them,
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"Again Fine places her in a hypnotic spell and commences a lengthy sexually explicit conversation.

"He confirms that he wants this experience to happen continually in the future and that it will be secret without the ability of her to recall," Thomas stated.

...afterwards she would realize her clothes and bra were out of place and moved, and her vagina was wet.
At that point a search warrant was obtained
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officials to record Jane Doe during a Nov. 7 meeting in his office.
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resulting scene, witnessed by Thomas and several other law enforcement officers at a nearby location, allegedly showed Fine hypnotizing the woman before directing her to a couch.
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video camera on his desk then captured Fine's "sexual dialogue" while he massaged her hand and shoulders.

"At this point I and the other police enter the room," Thomas stated.
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while Jane Doe's claims are unusual, she's not believed to be the first.
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second woman claims Fine was also "attempting to hypnotize her" while meeting to discuss her upcoming divorce.

From the parts of their meetings she could remember he would gently touch her fingers, forearm and forehead while directing her thoughts to a "wave of relaxation."
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later couldn't recall how much time had passed while with him but in their after-hours meetings she said Fine would comment on "her looks and physical appearance."

He would also inquire about her sex life with her husband, and whether they had "rough sex."
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he stopped working at his law firm, she spoke with one of his former partners and said she too "felt as though she might have been hypnotized."
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officials with the bar association, the woman said she felt "creepy and disgusted" by his behavior, especially with it coming while she was "so upset and distraught about her marital situation when she went to him."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...men-perform-sex-acts-client-article-1.2016955
 
I assume this will never make it anywhere near a real courtroom. So I assume this woman is in on it with him? A publicity stunt for his rising career as a high class gigolo?
 
Wow. That video was incredibly creepy but I can't imagine the endless possibilities of not having to pay for sex. I mean um... whoops. Now that the pussycat is out of the bag(<still feel like I could of done better there) just don't ever go for the "package rate" UGH you only make that mistake once...
 
Have any of you ever been hypnotized? I don't think it's possible for me to be, but no one has ever tried that I know if anyway.
 
Well.... you can be my first test subject LOL! No I don't think I could be hypnotized, and the creepy video made it seem like you wouldn't be good for my first attempt either... LOL eww I doubt he used a "yo-yo" to hypnotize his clients. All kidding aside, I don't think I could be put under hypnosis because I'm too skeptical of it.

However my dad who is a HUGE skeptic of everything went to a show and he was amazed. He didn't volunteer to go up and I don't think he could be hypnotized either but he was pretty convinced the volunteers weren't acting. He also said some people it didn't work on so I think it is definitely possible that it was real. I think it only works on weak-minded people though as rude as that is to say. I doubt many people on D&D could be hypnotized...
 
I've been to a hypnotist show, a long time ago in a land far far away. Literally far far away, in a casino in South Africa... yes that particular bit of trivia is totally necessary to my point... honest... Anyhow, it seemed believable I guess, but it could just have been drunk people using it as an excuse to do stupid shit at the command of some stranger. I think he actually sent some people back to their seats because it didn't work on them... but I could be remembering shit. I don't recall it being super convincing in either direction.
 
Super creeped out by this, on more than a few levels...

My aunt was a chain smoker for like 30 years.. she saw a therapist who did hypnosis on her for the sole purpose of "smoking cessation?"

I have to say while some may preform shows for entertainment and may be fake, my aunt hasn't smoked in over 2 years- that ISN'T faked. Was recently considering it myself but I think this might make me rethink that (or at least secretly record the session.)

When I asked my aunt about it, and how she quit after hypnosis, she said she knew it worked when she went to go light a cigarette after the session and immediately thought- as she was lighting it "I'm no longer a smoker." I have heard her say several times throughout the past 2 years "I'm no longer a smoker. " in conversations about it with others.

I am more than a little bit intrigued by hypnosis and how it works. Even more so, after reading this.
 
From the legal motion:

From this point on in the conversation, Respondent engaged in a graphic sexual
discussion with Doe 1 in which he inquires if she "feels pleasure,' is "excited," is "aroused,"
that he is the only one to give her "the most pleasure you have ever had in your life," that
she will feel "a wave of arousal," that she is "going to bring - you said you had a vibrator,"
that she should hide the vibrator "in her purse," and that she will want to see "what
happens with the vibrator," that she will have a "hardening of her nipples," did she "have
sex this morning," did she "masturbate this morning," does she "masturbate every day,"
that he will make her feel "the most amazing pleasure every," and that she will "build
towards a massive orgasm," that she is "soaking wet," that he is her "teacher and you are
my student," that she would have "not just a vaginal orgasm, but a quick oral orgasm,"
that "I can do it to you, with you all the time, can't I," that "I am the only one who knows
how to trigger it," he again inquires about the "vibrator," and that this is all "a secret and
no one's going to know, right," that she is also going to bring her "horniness, your arousal,
and your excitement,' that she is going to have a "life-changing experience," that his voice
"is like a vibrator inside of you;" that she "was taught be me," and that "your juices are
flowing, incredibly flowing," and she is "rubbing on your clit ... so raw, so hard ... so
aroused or excited. " He again asks her to bring her vibrator to their meeting. (Id. at ¶27;
Exhibit "C," pgs. 5-21, emphasis added.)
http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/pdf_viewer/pdf_viewer.aspx?pdf=757014.pdf

Um.....this fucking whakadoo here just gives n gives n gives.
This went on for weeks, it looks. Daft female. But then again, what soon to be divorcee doesn't carry a vibrator in her purse at times???
 
as she was lighting it "I'm no longer a smoker." I have heard her say several times throughout the past 2 years "I'm no longer a smoker. " in conversations about it with others.

This is the key and it doesn't require hypnosis. State of mind is what is important to being able to change habits. When I quit smoking I made a little ritual of it right at sundown on New Year's Eve. I handed over my unfinished pack to my family and said I was no longer a smoker and that my old way had gone down with the sun. Although I was nervous as hell I never experienced any cravings at all. Whenever the thought of a cigarette would cross my mind I'd laugh and told that thought to go bother someone who still smoked. It gave me some insight into dealing with addiction.
 
The only sickening thing about this case is the fact that any court or judicial official is taking it the least bit seriously. What total bullshit. This woman is either a complete nutbag or she started to want more out of their relationship and he said no, so she's trying to ruin him. Skank bitches need to learn their god damned place; if you're gonna live life on your knees dedicated to serving cock, don't all of a sudden grow some nerve and try to stand up and ruin someone when that cock is zipped back up. Stupid slut.

That said, they need to release the recordings, they sound interesting...
 
This is the key and it doesn't require hypnosis. State of mind is what is important to being able to change habits. When I quit smoking I made a little ritual of it right at sundown on New Year's Eve. I handed over my unfinished pack to my family and said I was no longer a smoker and that my old way had gone down with the sun. Although I was nervous as hell I never experienced any cravings at all. Whenever the thought of a cigarette would cross my mind I'd laugh and told that thought to go bother someone who still smoked. It gave me some insight into dealing with addiction.

Because you are of strong will! It was obvious before this was ever posted;)
 
ok everybody... take a Deep breath and now, exhale, very slowly and relax. Think on something pretty. You are in a quiet, secluded beach. The sun is warm and the sound of the waves is the only thing you hear. You feel happy and relax...

hey... what am I doing here?...
 
Hypnosis is bullshit. There are some psychological tricks going on in the mind of the subject where they give themselves permission to go along with it, but the 'hypnotist' can't make them do anything they really don't want to do.

I tried hypnosis to quit smoking, but it didn't work on me. I've seen others adopt the "I'm not a smoker" mindset after it though. Like Satanica said, it works because you want it too. I wanted to stop, but was aware how skeptical I was about hypnotism beforehand, and was too aware of the guy doing it and what mental tricks he was trying to fully give myself permission to 'go under' and believe it would work.

Derren Brown is a genius 'mentalist' over here, and studied a lot about hypnosis, confidence tricks, and is exceptionally good at reading people. But even he admits in his book that hypnosis is basically a con - but a convincing one, since the people genuinely believe they aren't acting. But they do need to be suggestible.
 
From the legal motion:

From this point on in the conversation, Respondent engaged in a graphic sexual
discussion with Doe 1 in which he inquires if she "feels pleasure,' is "excited," is "aroused,"
that he is the only one to give her "the most pleasure you have ever had in your life," that
she will feel "a wave of arousal," that she is "going to bring - you said you had a vibrator,"
that she should hide the vibrator "in her purse," and that she will want to see "what
happens with the vibrator," that she will have a "hardening of her nipples," did she "have
sex this morning," did she "masturbate this morning," does she "masturbate every day,"
that he will make her feel "the most amazing pleasure every," and that she will "build
towards a massive orgasm," that she is "soaking wet," that he is her "teacher and you are
my student," that she would have "not just a vaginal orgasm, but a quick oral orgasm,"
that "I can do it to you, with you all the time, can't I," that "I am the only one who knows
how to trigger it," he again inquires about the "vibrator," and that this is all "a secret and
no one's going to know, right," that she is also going to bring her "horniness, your arousal,
and your excitement,' that she is going to have a "life-changing experience," that his voice
"is like a vibrator inside of you;" that she "was taught be me," and that "your juices are
flowing, incredibly flowing," and she is "rubbing on your clit ... so raw, so hard ... so
aroused or excited. " He again asks her to bring her vibrator to their meeting. (Id. at ¶27;
Exhibit "C," pgs. 5-21, emphasis added.)

:vomit: Holy shit, Batman, talk about someone needing help - this guy's hubris, narcissism, and *strong* desire to be SOMEbody's 'best lay ever' is hysterical! I can see his life now:

*walks in from work*

"Did you pick up the KY like I told you to, Michael?", said his wife in her nasally, NJ voice, purple curlers and snap front, floral house dress.

"No dear, I forgot..."

"You're a worthless piece of shit, Michael, do you know that? Worthless! I knew I should have married Bob Whaddadick. HE'S a doc-tuh, Michael, not a two-bit hack attorney like you!"

"Yes, dear."

"Tell me, Michael, how the hell ah we supposed to have anal without the KY? It's anal night. Ya not sticking that Li'l Smokey up my ass without the KY, Michael. Ya hear me?"

"Yes, dear...I need to make a phone call..."

:joyful:
 
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:vomit: Holy shit, Batman, talk about someone needing help - this guy's hubris, narcissism, and *strong* desire to be SOMEbody's 'best lay ever' is hysterical! I can see his life now:

*walks in from work*

"Did you pick up the KY like I told you to, Michael?", said his wife in her nasally, NJ voice, purple curlers and snap front, floral house dress.

"No dear, I forgot..."

"You're a worthless piece of shit, Michael, do you know that? Worthless! I knew I should have married Bob Whaddadick. HE'S a doc-tuh, Michael, not a two-bit hack attorney like you!"

"Yes, dear."

"Tell me, Michael, how the hell ah we supposed to have anal without the KY? It's anal night. Ya not sticking that Li'l Smokey up my ass without the KY, Michael. Ya hear me?"

"Yes, dear...I need to make a phone call..."

:joyful:
:crack::crack::crack:
But after reading your very informative post on anal adventures, I'm wondering why anyone would make a regular night out of it...
 
http://abc7chicago.com/news/ex-lawy...g-sexually-assaulting-female-clients/1608484/
ELYRIA, Ohio --
A former Ohio attorney who authorities say hypnotized unwitting female clients for his sexual gratification was sentenced Monday to 12 years in prison.

Michael Fine was sentenced in Lorain County after pleading guilty in September to kidnapping and attempted kidnapping charges involving six women. The judge ordered Fine, 59, classified as a registered sex offender.

Defense attorney Robert Housel said Fine has had difficulties in his life, voluntarily gave up his law license and acknowledged what he had done by entering guilty pleas.
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