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That baby deserved a drug free womb.
Too bad no one thought to start a go fund me page to get her into rehab.
Momzilla
Badass/PTA Mom
No one deserves to be burned alive-- junkie or not, she was a person.
Who knows what kind of mother she could've been with the right support?
At first when I read the headline I was thinking- pregnant woman burned to death? Why haven't I heard about this yet? Then I read 'fighting a heroin addiction' and I'm like- Of course, bc she was 'just another junkie', not as important of a loss if she were 'a real person'.
That's really tragic.
ETA: Her Go fund me goal of 7k is almost there. There is a 50/50 mix of supportive comments & 'the junkie deserved it' comments.
29yo Amanda Lynn Benton: Mother of 4 boys, expecting her 1st daughter- Burned alive for her car
E again TA: I'm not a drug addict, nor do I have any close family/friends who are addicts & I don't know this woman or her family. I just hate to see any person marginalized due to circumstances that they find themselves in. It's easy to write someone off. I just believe that every life is important, every person can change, every person deserves a second chance.
Who knows what kind of mother she could've been with the right support?
At first when I read the headline I was thinking- pregnant woman burned to death? Why haven't I heard about this yet? Then I read 'fighting a heroin addiction' and I'm like- Of course, bc she was 'just another junkie', not as important of a loss if she were 'a real person'.
That's really tragic.
ETA: Her Go fund me goal of 7k is almost there. There is a 50/50 mix of supportive comments & 'the junkie deserved it' comments.
29yo Amanda Lynn Benton: Mother of 4 boys, expecting her 1st daughter- Burned alive for her car
E again TA: I'm not a drug addict, nor do I have any close family/friends who are addicts & I don't know this woman or her family. I just hate to see any person marginalized due to circumstances that they find themselves in. It's easy to write someone off. I just believe that every life is important, every person can change, every person deserves a second chance.
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Muriel Schwenck
Beloved Curmudgeon
Perhaps they did and she ran away or relapsed, or because of her drug history, no one with money to donate who knew her had any confidence that it would work so would not contribute.
That's assuming she was ready to help herself. She might have been featured on DD pimping her chold for a fix. It's hard to muster optimism about the poor woman.
So sad.
alifinrox
Empath, attention whore
beautiful girl. i really see some of me/my former self in her eyes. she really couldve done so much with her perspective if only she had the CHANCE to get clean. she couldve helped other people still walking that scary path, people who are usually sensitive, loving people who have typically seen more dark shit in their existence than their minds or hearts could handle.
i really just dont get it. society says, dont smoke while prego, its bad for and not fair to the baby. we are all supposed to support our schools so children get a fair chance to become a productive member of society. we as states provide foster care for children who have already seen their share of dysfunction and abuse. we are taught (hopefully) as we grow up to treat others as we wish to be treated, not to be rude to, stare at, or make judgements about others as the book cover doesnt tell the full story. we help the homeless especially homeless families and children because we cant imagine how tough living that way would be. we like to think we would speak up if someone was suicidal because they are worthy of saving and helping. we like to think we are so fucking accepting and altruistic, but children in any of these scenarios (addict parents, abused/neglected, rejected socially, foster care, homeless) are WAAAY more likely to try, be attracted to or grow up to abuse drugs. ik because i grew up in every single category myself and, because i didnt have a healthy upbringing or role model, i found solace in heroin which was everywhere in portland when everyone you know is on the streets. it was the natural, human progression of that path to try it, i wish i had known in doing so all i would be giving up, but by then it was too late,i was suddenly a worthless pos waste of space who deserved everything and more, even death!! i will never get adequate medical care again as i am a known addict. i even had 9 teeth removed with no pain meds before or after by a dentist who yelled about me being a 'DRUG ADDICT' in front of a whole office full of patients. thats what people like me get. we are held to impossible standards of perfection and any honesty regarding our status even in recovery is always regretted when we are reminded that the world would rather see us dead.
its kinda ironic that EVERY anti drug anti druggie crusader condemns out of one side of their mouth while they consume caffiene, sugar, nicotine etc through the other. it seems like the only people who see the epidemic going on here are those who have fallen victim to it, and those that love them. once you understand, its too late.
so how about giving our fellow suffering human beings a hand instead of a slap in the fucking face? its not easy to rebuild ones life and NO ONE knows how they will deal with trauma until it happens. its sad that it seems to be those who have suffered and who have so little that have the most empathy. people are fking assholes.
i really just dont get it. society says, dont smoke while prego, its bad for and not fair to the baby. we are all supposed to support our schools so children get a fair chance to become a productive member of society. we as states provide foster care for children who have already seen their share of dysfunction and abuse. we are taught (hopefully) as we grow up to treat others as we wish to be treated, not to be rude to, stare at, or make judgements about others as the book cover doesnt tell the full story. we help the homeless especially homeless families and children because we cant imagine how tough living that way would be. we like to think we would speak up if someone was suicidal because they are worthy of saving and helping. we like to think we are so fucking accepting and altruistic, but children in any of these scenarios (addict parents, abused/neglected, rejected socially, foster care, homeless) are WAAAY more likely to try, be attracted to or grow up to abuse drugs. ik because i grew up in every single category myself and, because i didnt have a healthy upbringing or role model, i found solace in heroin which was everywhere in portland when everyone you know is on the streets. it was the natural, human progression of that path to try it, i wish i had known in doing so all i would be giving up, but by then it was too late,i was suddenly a worthless pos waste of space who deserved everything and more, even death!! i will never get adequate medical care again as i am a known addict. i even had 9 teeth removed with no pain meds before or after by a dentist who yelled about me being a 'DRUG ADDICT' in front of a whole office full of patients. thats what people like me get. we are held to impossible standards of perfection and any honesty regarding our status even in recovery is always regretted when we are reminded that the world would rather see us dead.
its kinda ironic that EVERY anti drug anti druggie crusader condemns out of one side of their mouth while they consume caffiene, sugar, nicotine etc through the other. it seems like the only people who see the epidemic going on here are those who have fallen victim to it, and those that love them. once you understand, its too late.
so how about giving our fellow suffering human beings a hand instead of a slap in the fucking face? its not easy to rebuild ones life and NO ONE knows how they will deal with trauma until it happens. its sad that it seems to be those who have suffered and who have so little that have the most empathy. people are fking assholes.
lithiumgirl
Pretty Nice Troll
fucking junkies ... all of them!
I've had plenty of habits but have never been an actual junkie. I believe will and effort are the most vital elements of leaving any level of habit as well as state of mind. I would think if you really wanted to get clean you would make some attempt to learn how that works and make an attempt to do it on your own rather than believe you have no choice. It's pretty amazing how much we humans can do when we set our minds on a goal and stick to it. Once a person decides to take back their power and responsibility, a transformation has already begun.
Sorry @Satanica, I respectfully disagree. Willpower is nothing in the face of a physical addiction. Opioid and alcohol addicts can die going it alone. That's not even touching on the physical or psychological pain. It's beyond the comprehension of anyone who hasn't experienced true addiction.
ETA: Nelsan Ellis chose willpower. He had his family to help him. He died.
ETA: Nelsan Ellis chose willpower. He had his family to help him. He died.
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