But those consquences shouldnt equate to being charged with a crime.
No your wrong in this one freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Simple as that. It can have meaning it can not. It can be wonderful or rubbish. Theres no other conditions applied other than a call to action. You can be as polite as you want or rude. Bigoted or sensitive...either way if the person wants to express their opinion or lack there of they have every right to do it.
Whilst his stunt wasn't the best taste i take problem with fact that a. He's being charged with a crime which is problematic because whats next. B. Theres a huge double standard because blm has been known to incite racial intimidation and much worse yet i hardly ever read of protesters of being arrested for the same crime. C. Your idea that free speech is only free speech if its presented a certain way.
You say that its not limited to what doesn't offend but then you preface you reply that free speech shouldn't deliberately wound people. So which is it?
Its either accept the idea that free speech is essential with out limits even knowing it can be a free for all. Or admit that you like the idea of limitations. Because thats the feel that im getting from your response.
As for is it worth it to wound people with words? I work in a call center i heard some pretty awful stuff said to me but if i took every sexist racist horrible stuff said to me to heart than i wouldn't be able to work. The world isn't a safe space theres going to be offensive shit if your so easily wounded by words then your probably thin skinned.
Im actually kind of glad to see racist spectales like this because atleast i know whose a racist and as for BLM my point still stands fuck their precious snowflake feelings. I am sick to death of their pillaging in the name of racial equality and could hardly care if this racist asshat hurted their feels.
You are picking through what I wrote to support your argument.
As I stated, there is a difference between someone being offended from hearing something said - and deliberately and knowingly speaking in a way designed to incite offense. Its context and intent. If the speaker actively wishes to cause offense whilst exercising their right to free speech - then they're an asshole. Freedom of speech does not absolve you of the consequences of what you have said, nor is it an excuse for spite and cruelty.
I find it hilarious to be lectured by you, at your age, working in a call centre over the need for safe spaces etc. Sweetheart, when I was your age, safe spaces didn't exist, nor did the idiot concept. I too, did my time, at your age, working in call centre's, so I understand very well the abuse heaped on you at times by some idiots. You're showing your inexperience due to your age from your assumptions.
When I was your age, you were in your toilet training years. I've got a lot to learn, plenty of things to mature on and a tonne of wisdom to still collect, but I've got years and years and years of life experience on you at this juncture - and believe me when I say, based on that life experience - that you are talking straight out of your ass right now.
I think my general attitude I've displayed on this site since joining shows I'm not thin skinned, nor am I left wing, nor am I supportive of most progressive notions. Like 'safe spaces'. But you assume your ass off, sweetheart. Whatever floats your boat.
As for your bizarre hatred and resentment of the BLM movement. Look, I too, see faults within their ideology. Its not perfect, nor is their message, nor are the behaviours of many of their members.
But I damn well support the fact that, that Black lives matter. And I've supported that long before the BLM movement reared it's head and I'll support it long after it eats itself and disappears. Everyone's life matters. It just so happens right now, for a number of important reasons, that African Americans are getting shot at and harmed by Police at a rate that is very disproportionate to Whites, Hispanics etc. Especially given how small a minority the Black community actually represents in the US, from a population viewpoint.
You seem to be latching on to the issues you have with the BLM movement and bucketing blame and judgement over the entire movement, its supporters and the reasons why it exists. The world is just not black and white like that. For every idiot, or worrying notion to come out of the BLM movement, there are 5 more people who just want to end the racism occurring - and the consequences of it. And 5 more notions that the movement represent that are fair and reasonable.
As for you worrying about his charges leading to a slippery slope - well, I'd assume you were joking, but I've seen your ideas on other topics on here - and it fits with other things you've said that you actually are concerned about the fact he was charged with a HATE CRIME.
I cannot, for the life of me, see a single, solitary reason to support his actions. What he did was vile. It was cruel and spiteful. It was nasty and vindictive. It was done to garner attention whilst causing as much pain and humiliation as possible to an entire section of society.
And you think that this doesn't deserve a slap on the wrist?
That worries me more than anything else. You seem to want the right to spew vitriol at others and not suffer the consequences. You seem to want the right the say things deliberately designed to wound and hurt - just because you can. And you think its worrying for someone who committed a HATE CRIME and who admitted to committing it - to be punished as a result.
You have a lot to learn.
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