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An interesting article on the jury deliberations, with links to more on the Globe and Mail site.

How did the jury decide Michael Rafferty was guilty?

thanks for the link,think its basically the only one I havent see
This hit close to home b/c shes not far from me
I really wanted to go to a day of the trial but just couldnt
My husbands not well and I couldnt leave and go up there
so Ive just really focused on all the info online
I couldnt believe the evidence not allowed,thats one thing Ill never understand how they hold back that info
I see why but would love to see them not strike so much info from jurys ears

I know if they knew, they could judge him on that and automatically in their heads feel hes guilty before they even hear the case
But I was stunned with what came out AFTER the verdict
And see they wouldve pegged him guilty automatically
Hes another fucking Bernardo with the choking sex and crap
He needs to be desiganted Dangerous Offender here
In Canada life is 25 years
Dangerous Offenders are locked up in cell 23 hours a day and never guarenteed they will get out

I have a gut feeling they are going to go for that when Terri goes to trial for assaulting another inmate
shes got all sorts of convictions from 11yo until now
And a guy here in my city had exact same history and hes been declared dangerous offender
 
He needs to be desiganted Dangerous Offender here
In Canada life is 25 years
Dangerous Offenders are locked up in cell 23 hours a day and never guarenteed they will get out

Actually not sure if all of Canada has Dangerous Offender laws or if its province by province
 
I have to admit I still don't understand the nuances of why the laptop evidence was held back from the jury, or why any search warrant in this day and age wouldn't include computers. I even read a couple of discussion threads on the subject, but I still don't get it. As for Rafferty, he's a disgusting piece of shit, and the only thing that makes me feel even slightly better about having to share the planet with him is the fact that the rest of his life is going to be spent in lonely misery:

Michael Rafferty’s future: isolated with slim hope of ever getting out
 
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I have to admit I still don't understand the nuances of why the laptop evidence was held back from the jury, or why any search warrant in this day and age wouldn't include computers. I even read a couple of discussion threads on the subject, but I still don't get it. As for Rafferty, he's a disgusting piece of shit, and the only thing that makes me feel even slightly better about having to share the planet with him is the fact that the rest of his life is going to be spent in lonely misery:

Michael Rafferty’s future: isolated with slim hope of ever getting out


I can b/c if they had allowed that into court then the jury couldve said "what a scummy sucker"
They couldve prejudged him before hearing all the evidence on this matter
They wanted him tried on this matter of Tori and the evidence they had towards her death and nothing more

Not tried on being a lowlife and into child porn and sexual choking games etc
A year ago I wouldnt have really understood or liked it but I can now see it (for some odd reason)
I would rather see him tried only on that evidence towards Toris case and not have to worry about them appealing the case on a stupid technicality

This way its all the evidence they had from DNA,Terri,witnesses around the time this happened and how he was obsessed with the case including posting status updates online!!

Sentencing is tomorrow,no great thrill Canada I already know it will be 25 years no parole
Im hoping they go for DO
 
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Michael Rafferty’s future: isolated with slim hope of ever getting out

That links busted heres what is on it though from another

What next for Michael Rafferty?
By any estimate, the 31-year-old killer’s prospects are bleak.

Rarely do murder convictions elicit the surge of elation that erupted in London and Woodstock late Friday night as word spread that the man charged with kidnapping, raping and beating to death eight-year-old Victoria (Tori) Stafford three years ago had been found guilty on all charges.
For the reviled loser whose trial drew so much attention, there was nothing to celebrate.

As the nine-woman, three-man jury delivered its verdict, Mr. Rafferty stood impassively in the prisoner’s box, staring straight ahead. But when he sat back down, he slumped against the wall, eyes half closed, defeated.

Where is Rafferty now?

For the immediate moment he is going nowhere, but will remain in the segregation wing of the Elgin-Middlesex Detention Centre, a cheerless low-rise compound of brick, steel and razor wire on the south end of London.

What will his sentence be?

On Tuesday morning he will return to court for the last time to hear victim-impact statements and sentencing. And there is no doubt what Mr. Justice Thomas Heeney’s sentence will be. First-degree murder carries an automatic penalty of life imprisonment with scant chance of parole for at least 25 years.

Will he ever see freedom again?

At the 15-year mark, the so-called “faint hope” clause kicks in, allowing the prisoner to seek permission to make a parole application. But most killers are turned down, and in this instance, the notoriety and extraordinary viciousness of the circumstances all but ensure that Mr. Rafferty will not be freed at that point – if ever. However, he likely cannot be ruled a “dangerous offender,” which spells an indefinite sentence, because that requires prosecutors to show a pattern to the criminality. And aside from a brush with the law when he was a juvenile, Mr. Rafferty had until Friday never been convicted of anything.


Can he appeal?

Asked after the verdict if Mr. Rafferty planned to appeal it, his lawyer, Dirk Derstine, said that would be up to his client. To do so usually requires either discovering new evidence or finding a legal error by the trial judge.

Where will he be imprisoned?


After Tuesday’s hearing, his next stop will be Millhaven Institution, the maximum-security penitentiary west of Kingston that doubles as a classification centre, where he will spend about six weeks. After that he will either remain in Millhaven or be dispatched to another maximum-security prison, And for a sex killer such as him, the traditional destination would be Kingston Penitentiary, the 177-year-old fortress that is home to Paul Bernardo, Russell Williams and more than 400 of Canada’s other most dangerous inmates. But Kingston Pen is to be shut down at some unspecified date, the Stephen Harper government recently announced, even though the federal prison system is chock-full. So conceivably Mr. Rafferty will be sent elsewhere.

What can he expect in prison?

Wherever he does end up, he is sure to spend the decades ahead in almost complete isolation. A murderer with his résumé would not last 15 minutes within the general population of a federal penitentiary. And even if was housed with other sex offenders he would be an instant target, as Mr. Bernardo has learned. Nor will he be getting many visitors. Aside from his distressed mother, who showed up briefly, no relatives or supporters appeared at his trial. Even before his arrest, he appeared to be almost entirely friendless, aside from the many gullible young women he befriended on the dating web site PlentyofFish.com.

As for treating any underlying mental illness that may have that triggered Mr. Rafferty’s murderous attack on Tori Stafford, he should not be holding his breath on that count either. The largest such facility in the country is the Regional Treatment Centre, inside the walls of Kingston Penitentiary, and that too will be shut down, the government has stated, with no explanation of what might replace it.

In sum, the once-gregarious sex killer who described himself on Facebook as “complex, with lots of layers,” is facing a recipe for despair: A claustrophobic, empty future almost entirely devoid of hope.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news... RSS/Atom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2430837
 
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Will he ever see freedom again?

At the 15-year mark, the so-called “faint hopeâ€￾ clause kicks in, allowing the prisoner to seek permission to make a parole application. But most killers are turned down, and in this instance, the notoriety and extraordinary viciousness of the circumstances all but ensure that Mr. Rafferty will not be freed at that point – if ever. However, he likely cannot be ruled a “dangerous offender,â€￾ which spells an indefinite sentence, because that requires prosecutors to show a pattern to the criminality. And aside from a brush with the law when he was a juvenile, Mr. Rafferty had until Friday never been convicted of anything.
^^^
This is what gives me hope they are going to nail Terri as a Dangerous Offender here =^..^=
Terri has the history that Michael doesnt have in order to be declared DO

Terri-Lynne McClintic Climbed Deadly Ladder
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Heres her "gangsta look" she put on the net.​
Confessed and convicted child-killer Terri-Lynne McClintic violent history was entered as evidence in the ongoing murder trial against her former lover, Michael Rafferty.


"I’m not denying that I have a history of violence, but I'm not violent towards children and I've never hurt a child in my life. To try to fathom and comprehend the fact that a child lost their life by my hands is something I could not comprehend."

Terri-Lynne's troubles with the law began with two assault charges stemming from altercations with her adoptive mother, Carol McClintic. Terri-Lynne choked her mother with her left hand as she punched her in the face with her right hand after the two got into an argument over the fact that Terri-Lynne had been dismissed from work. Carol McClintic suffered partial vision loss as a result.



The second charge resulted from Terri-Lynne punching her mother in the back of the head after the two got into a "mutual confrontation." Terri-Lynne alledged that she punched her mother after Carol burned her with a cigarette.
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http://mascaramurder.blogspot.ca/2012/03/terri-lynne-mcclintic-climbed-deadly.html
 
Judge calls Tori Stafford killer a 'monster' at sentencing

Michael Rafferty has been sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole for 25 years, despite his continued claim that he did not commit crimes against Victoria (Tori) Stafford of Woodstock, Ont.

At the sentencing hearing being held in London, Ont., Tuesday, Rafferty was given the opportunity to speak and he told the court, "I firmly stand behind not guilty."

He admitted he played a role in Tori's disappearance, but said he's not guilty of murder, kidnapping, or sexual assault, even though a jury found him guilty on all of those charges on Friday. He offered to meet with Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, to fill in the missing pieces of the puzzle so she would know the whole story.
In sentencing the 31-year-old, Justice Thomas Heeney said Rafferty committed an act "of pure evil."

"Most tragically of all you have snuffed out the life of a .... little girl ... And for what? So you could fulfil your twisted need to have sex with a child. You sir are a monster," the judge said.
Rafferty also receives 10 years each for kidnapping and sexual assault causing bodily harm, to be served concurrently with the sentence for first-degree murder.

Heeney also prohibited from owning weapons, and said his name will be added to the national sex offender registry and he must provide a DNA sample. Rafferty will be up for parole on May 19, 2034.

A number of Tori's relatives spoke at the hearing about the loss they felt after the 2009 slaying.

Tori's mother, Tara McDonald, said she has been through a lifetime of pain in the past three years. She said her life, and the lives of her family, were destroyed the day Tori disappeared.

"But Victoria wouldn't want us to be miserable forever, so for her we will pick up the pieces and put together our lives as best as we can," she said. "No amount of time or tears will ever bring her back to me."

McDonald said her son, Daryn, who usually walked his younger sister Tori home from school, still feels guilty about not doing so on April 8, 2009. McDonald also said she has to deal with whispers from people who think she had something to do with her daughter's disappearance.

She said she will never get a chance to see Tori at her graduation, prom or wedding. It has all been replaced by anniversaries — the day she went missing, the day she was found.

McDonald was among the family members who spoke at the sentencing hearing of Rafferty, 31. Linda Winters, Tori's maternal grandmother and father, Rodney Stafford, also spoke about how they have been affected by the murder of the Grade 3 student, whose body was found in Mount Forest, 100 kilometres north of Woodstock.

Rodney Stafford told the hearing there are no words to express his feelings and that he often wants to explode with rage. Cheers could be heard in the courthouse as Stafford referred to the "piece of shit" who stole Tori.

Tears from killer

When a statement written by Tori's brother Daryn was read out, Rafferty appeared to get emotional and began to cry, occasionally wiping tears from his eyes.

Daryn wrote that he feels alone and has had to go to counselling. He said he has low self-esteem and anxiety. He cannot walk alone without constantly looking behind him.

He described the last time he saw Tori, on the day she disappeared, and said everything seemed normal.

"Now I am lost without her, trying to move on without my baby sister and best friend," he wrote. "No hugs, no see you later, no goodbyes, just a part of my heart ripped out … like the world is playing a sick trick on me but it's not. This is my reality."

Throughout the trial, which began March 5 and ended in a guilty verdict Friday evening, people have jockeyed to get a seat in the courtroom, and Tuesday morning was no different. People lined up early to try to get a seat inside the courtroom or in the overflow room.
About 30 people were lined up before 8 a.m. at the London, Ont., courthouse where Michael Rafferty's sentencing hearing was being held. (Cheryl Krawchuk/CBC)
Rafferty was found guilty on all three charges he faced following the first full day of deliberations: first-degree murder, sexual assault causing bodily harm and kidnapping.

A conviction of first-degree murder carries a penalty of life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...g-hearing-michael-rafferty-tori-stafford.html
 
Stafford Killer Terri-Lynne McClintic pleads guilty to prison assault

LONDON, ONT. - If she had been in a bigger room, Tori Stafford’s killer Terri-Lynne McClintic says she “could have really done some damageâ€￾ to another inmate she attacked earlier this year.

In a letter intercepted by guards, McClintic explained to another inmate named Krazy why she attacked Aimee MacIntyre on Jan. 30.

“It is what it is, point made, statement just not as loud as I would have liked it to be if you catch what I’m putting down,â€￾ she wrote.

“So I’m f------ choked, I don’t even think I did that much f------ damage,â€￾ McClinitic wrote.

Later in the letter, she said she “would have preferred a bigger room — then I could have really done some damage.â€￾

McClintic, 22, who is serving a life-sentence for the murder of Tori Stafford, 8, at the Grand Valley Institution for Women in Kitchener, Ont., pleaded guilty Wednesday morning to assaulting MacIntyre.

Justice Colin Westman sentenced McClinitic to six months for the assault, calling the case “troublesome and tragic.â€￾

Court heard McClinitic had planned to fight the charge of assaulting MacIntyre until the letter surfaced.

MacIntyre is also serving a life sentence and was mentoring McClinitc at the time of the assault. Court heard McClintic had asked to have a peer-to-peer support meeting with MacIntyre on Jan. 30. The meetings are part of programming at the prison that allow for mentoring and support.

During the meeting, MacIntyre paused to scratch her head. McClintic got up from her chair and started to punch MacIntyre in the head and kick her.

MacIntyre was on the floor in a fetal position and not fighting back. McClintic continued her assault and several officers saw the attack.

They struggled to pull McClintic off MacIntyre.

MacIntyre was taken to hospital with significant bruising to her head and eye area. She also had a bruise on her arm.

But she required no hospitalization and was given medication before she was returned to the prison for observation.

When she was interviewed by the police on Feb. 2, MacIntyre said she was experiencing headaches and dizziness.

Since that interview, MacIntyre has not been co-operative with the Crown making it impossible to prove the extent of the injuries.

McClintic said little to the police, then admitted to the assault and said she did not want a lawyer.

She gave no reason for the assault.

Crown attorney Julia Forward said the assault was McClintic’s tenth conviction for violence and wanted a six month sentence to reflect the seriousness of the event that was planned, unprovoked and continued even when the victim was cowering for protection.

It would also be on her record if McClintic planned to apply for parole under the faint hope clause after serving 15 years.

Defence lawyer Geoff Snow wanted time served and explained McClintic’s letter was written in anger just hours after the attack and doesn’t show her remorse.

The judge said it was “hard to seeâ€￾ any remorse, given “how neat and how she explains herselfâ€￾ in the two-page letter.

“She seems to have some pretty deep-seeded anger,â€￾ Westman said adding that as time passes, “she feels bad.â€￾

McClintic was put in segregation for 30 days and her privileges were gone for two months, Snow said.

Westman gave McClintic credit for pleading guilty and added, “I can’t imagine your turmoil you must feel within yourself.â€￾

“My only hope for you is that you will try the best you can to have a more civil attitude to fellow human beings ... Violence is not the answer.â€￾
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http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/1...-to-appear-in-court-for-prison-assault-charge
 
they failed Tori but not designating Terri a dangerous offender
She has the record and the attitude perfectly suited for DO
I am pissed and writing the fucking paper up there too and let them know how bad our justice system is
That court and judge completely fucked up
 
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Pretty sure Im banned from the newspaper that I commented on Tori Staffords killers story in their paper
wasnt nasty to gov I dont think
I was just speaking honestly s
i am going to send to every paper in Canada and see who will post it
this was my post and I dont think its bad at all

Once again the law fails murdered children
This was their chance to show they meant what they said after they released Karla after 12 years

about how child killers would be dealt with severely


This judge failed Tori

Terris record goes way back in juvie and beyond
She beat her own mom to a pulp for *&^ sakes

Rafferty didnt have the criminal past to make his sentence Dangerous Offender

This whatever she is did have the criminal back ground to be declared dangerous offender

This was the chance of a lifetime to get at least one of them but again Canadian law sucked at the chance they had





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The designation "dangerous offender" is reserved for Canada's most violent criminals and sexual predators.

Crown attorneys can seek the designation during sentencing and must show that there is a high risk that the criminal will commit violent or sexual offences in the future.

The designation carries an automatic sentence of imprisonment for an indeterminate period, with no chance of parole for seven years.

Canada's dangerous offender laws have their roots in the 1947 Habitual Offender Act, which dealt solely with offenders with lengthy criminal records, and the 1948 Criminal Sexual Psychopath Act.

In 1977, the designation "dangerous offender" replaced both "habitual offender" and "dangerous sexual offender.[,,,]
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/10/21/f-dangerous-offender.html
 
Dammit. I saw an update to her thread Whisper and was hoping to come in and read that one of these shit-stains had their brains turned to runny-turd by a fellow inmate and was no longer with us. Him and McClitbitch both need to cease stealing oxygen (and money) from the rest of us any time now.
 
Hadn't heard of this story until now. I spent the better half of the day trying to put pieces together or figure it out & I cant. So many pages yet so little information on what happend that day or who did it?
 
Hadn't heard of this story until now. I spent the better half of the day trying to put pieces together or figure it out & I cant. So many pages yet so little information on what happend that day or who did it?
she was a little girl that was kidnapped not that far from me and DamagedGoods and many other Canadians on this site
she was promised to see puppies (by a woman she knew that lived by her and Tori's mom and this killer were going to breed puppies at one point)
Instead the woman and her BF took her to a field and raped her then bashed her head in with a hammer and boots to the head
dumped her tiny body and smashed rocks on her
then the BF decided he was going to see other women and the killer/helper went to police and told them everything
 
she was a little girl that was kidnapped not that far from me and DamagedGoods and many other Canadians on this site
she was promised to see puppies (by a woman she knew that lived by her and Tori's mom and this killer were going to breed puppies at one point)
Instead the woman and her BF took her to a field and raped her then bashed her head in with a hammer and boots to the head
dumped her tiny body and smashed rocks on her
then the BF decided he was going to see other women and the killer/helper went to police and told them everything
Wow, Whisper.
That made my stomach turn and twirl and back again. :stop: This is just horrible. I read the parts of the BF/GF doing something but didn't know exactly what happend. Very VERY Sad. She thought she could trust her :( Please tell me these pieces of shit got the death penalty?
 
Wow, Whisper.
That made my stomach turn and twirl and back again. :stop: This is just horrible. I read the parts of the BF/GF doing something but didn't know exactly what happend. Very VERY Sad. She thought she could trust her :( Please tell me these pieces of shit got the death penalty?
figured I'd just do the cliff notes and what it all was
really sweet little girl in a totally fucked up case especially for around here where nothing happens like that
but we are just like any other place anymore
bad stuff happens everywhere but this was a real wake up call
 
Please tell me these pieces of shit got the death penalty?
we dont have DP here but they are on their way to being declared dangerous offenders (after all appeals are done)
and that is natural life in a cell with no contact with anyone
 
I just sat down and read all 26 pages and I'm astonished that Canada only gets 25 years for life. That's the perfect place to take some sick child molesting fuck and kill them just to make sure your out in 12 years on good behavior. That poor beautiful girl.
 
True about the 25 years unless, of course, we deem them as Dangerous Offenders ... then life means life.
Not exactly true. Dangerous offenders have to have their status reviewed after 7 years, and every 2 years after the first review, but even if they are paroled they will be under lifetime supervision. They also can't apply dangerous offender status for the charges of murder or treason. Paul Bernardo has dangerous offender status, but not because of the murders. They used his violent sexual tenancies to ding him with that.

It's basically a 3 strikes and your out law. We also have a Habitual Offender law which is much easier to obtain.
 
https://nationalpost.com/news/local...says/wcm/9ae7caf7-a01f-43ba-a66d-346b9a44e091
26 Sep 2018
The enraged father of a murdered Woodstock girl and his supporters are planning a rally on Parliament Hill to protest the transfer of killer Terri-Lynne McClintic from prison to an aboriginal healing lodge.

McClintic, convicted of first-degree murder in the 2009 kidnapping, rape and killing of eight-year-old Victoria (Tori) Stafford, is living at Okimaw Ohci Healing Lodge in Saskatchewan, relatives of the girl say.

The lodge offers more independent living and nicer quarters — including family units where children can live with offenders — than a prison, as well as spiritual and cultural training.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/tori-stafford-case-1.4840107
[...]Now, McClintic has moved to a healing lodge in Saskatchewan for female Indigenous offenders, where she enjoys greater independence, more spacious surroundings and programs designed to help her outline "what she needs emotionally, physically and spiritually to help with her rehabilitation," according to a description of the lodge's mandate on the Correctional Service Canada website.[...]

And of course, it turned into a political bicker in parliament
 
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That is a disgusting outcome. Surely there were many convicts more deserving of a bed in that facility than this child murderer and rapist.
 
If we could just eliminate the metropolitan Ontario electorate from the rest of Canada, would public opinion be different?
I believe most Canadians are not supporting this.
But I'm only American with plenty of Candian roots....
 
This is a huge embarrassment for anyone with a heart. Even more embarrassing for the librals who all stood in parliament to keep her there instead of standing for justice. Not one liberal thought for themselves today.
Iv read alot on these lodges... big surprise ...They actually are not that effective.
This cow beat an inmate not long ago and was remorseful she didn't do more damage.
Tell me how she got to a min security healing lodge after hunting a little girl to sexually please her bf and beat her with a hammer while she begged to go home.
Great job standing for her Librals.. you had a chance to send her back where she belongs. I hope this haunts you all .
This woman needs dangerous offender status. She cannot be fixed.
 
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@Muriel Schwenck
Wow that was a long and brutal read, I can't and don't want to imagine what this little girl went through. They wanted to destroy and humiliate this girl, they both deserve to rot in hell for what they did.

So will this animal be allowed to get a name change and moved into a community where no one is aware of who she is?
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