Umm... how did this response get into this thread. I SWEAR I put it in the right thread.
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Saury
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Incorrect. Videogames are an outlet; take that outlet away and more rage is injected into reality. But I do agree with one thing. ESRB ratings exist for a reason.
I agree. Videogames aren't the problem, the parents are to blame, and so are the peers around the children.
Uhh... wrong thread...?
Wrong thread....?
ESRB exists for a reason. You're retarded. But I do agree with you that young children need to not get their hands on violent videogames unless the parents raise them right and know the kid won't copy it. I had violent games as a child, but I was raised on rpgs. I always wanted to be the hero who saved the princess. I loved fighting the bad monsters who hurt the villages, I loved rescuing the princess because it made me feel like I accomplished something other than dumbass homework. I agree. Keep kids under 10 away from call of duty and other shooty-man the game- games. It's retarded. Unless you know your child is responsible and mature enough not to do that shit, don't fucking get it for them to copy. My parents got me a freakin war sword when I was 14 to go and fuck some shrubs up in the woods. Best day of my life. That sword is in pieces. I broke it. I'm proud. But did I ever take violent actions against someone who wasn't bullying me or did not hit me first? No. Most I ever did was kick a kid in the shin for being a dick and stealing my pokemon emerald game. You don't steal a mans emerald. You just fuckin don't man.
I'm thinking something got fucked up if I'm not the only one with a comment meant for another thread. Especially when the other comment was meant for the same thread as mine.
ETA: Especially since today is the first day I've even opened this thread.
ETA: Especially since today is the first day I've even opened this thread.
biteme
The Rev, Molon labe
You're retarded?? kicking shins?? Rescuing the princes? sword-Best day of my life? your whole post seems somewhat immature
Saury
Active Member
Adhominem.
My d-i-l's friend has a son who is around 8 or 9. He plays GTA at his dad's and is completely unsupervised while he's doing it. He mentioned something about that game at school, was overheard, and the next thing you know his mother gets a call from the school resource officer about it. She told him that he plays it at his dad's but nothing ever came of it. He's still playing it, I'm sure. However, he's the sweetest little boy ever and very careful around our littles. He started with Minecraft and guess what Ella (will be 4 next week) has just picked up? Why, Mindcraft, of course! And, GTA boy's mom just gave her a shooting game based on TWD. I'm not worried about it at all, because we're right there watching her.
Here, then. From the US Department of Justice.
http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200
Not that it matters. You have a retarded opinion and no doubt you will be sticking to it.
biteme
The Rev, Molon labe
Here, then. From the US Department of Justice.
http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200
Not that it matters. You have a retarded opinion and no doubt you will be sticking to it.
kennasmom
Trusted Member
You cant take a normal non murderous kid and stick them in from of grand theft auto and create a crazy murdering asshole...However a kid who is gonna do something really messed up either way may play video games. Crazy people find their "inspiration" somewhere somehow no matter what. I played grand theft auto with my kid..so far so good.
I also don't think that saving the princess would help with much of anything either...Its fun but shouldn't really be the best part of the week...unless you are a little off or something.
I also don't think that saving the princess would help with much of anything either...Its fun but shouldn't really be the best part of the week...unless you are a little off or something.
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ScarlettHarlot
Well-Known Member
Here, then. From the US Department of Justice.
http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200
Not that it matters. You have a retarded opinion and no doubt you will be sticking to it.
You see the above graph, right? Complied by the department of justice? Do you see where it says "juveniles ages 10-17"? You notice how it peeks between 1995 and 1998 then drops off significantly?
Data, motherfucker, do you lime it?
Nah. It's just an accurate description for anyone who thinks video games contribute to juvenile violence.
biteme
The Rev, Molon labe
Now I know I'm right, @JackBurton just craped on me, if that's not the mark of rightness I don't know what isNah. It's just an accurate description for anyone who thinks video games contribute to juvenile violence.
biteme
The Rev, Molon labe
I lime my Corona and tequila, how do you lime data?
biteme
The Rev, Molon labe
Yes he knew exactly what a shotgun could do, but the video games increase aggressive behavior
ScarlettHarlot
Well-Known Member
You've cherry picked from those studies. They're talking about the 'Bobo doll effect'
http://www.simplypsychology.org/bobo-doll.html
The increased physiological arousal and decrease in pro-social behaviour occurs immediately after playing something violent. Just experiments involving showing people sad video clips, or happy images, has immediate effects on physiology and mood. It's not a long lasting effect.
In terms of modelling abusive or destructive behaviour, or, indded, pro-social behaviour and coping skills, the effect of the living people around the subject is far more powerful.
biteme
The Rev, Molon labe
You used a different study from the two I used to say I cherry picked the study, are you for real??? Just how bad of a need to be right do you have?
ScarlettHarlot
Well-Known Member
The study you linked only has an abstract, I can't read the conclusion without paying for the full study. Since it's a meta study, I'm not reading every one that they reviewed. I linked the bobo doll experiment because I don't expect everyone who reads the thread to be familiar with it, and it's the base line study for whether children will mimic violence that they see. It's not all about you, or about being right.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/25/us/tennessee-girl-killed-over-puppy/index.html
The great grandparents are saying that their great grandson didn't fire the shot that killed Makayla, that he went and got the shotgun (he says he was unaware that it was loaded) and then passed it out the window to a friend, who subsequently shot Makayla. They don't understand why the friend won't come forward and admit what he did.
They are confident that when the autopsy is made public it will show that Makayla was shot from the ground and not from above thru the window.
I feel sorry for these grandparents, but I also feel they are in deep denial and that's not going to help this child understand what HE did wrong that day.
The great grandparents are saying that their great grandson didn't fire the shot that killed Makayla, that he went and got the shotgun (he says he was unaware that it was loaded) and then passed it out the window to a friend, who subsequently shot Makayla. They don't understand why the friend won't come forward and admit what he did.
They are confident that when the autopsy is made public it will show that Makayla was shot from the ground and not from above thru the window.
I feel sorry for these grandparents, but I also feel they are in deep denial and that's not going to help this child understand what HE did wrong that day.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/11-year-old-boy-convicted-of-killing-8-year-old-girl/
WHITE PINE, Tenn. -- An 11-year-old boy in Tennessee has been found guilty of murdering an eight-year-old girl after she and her sister refused to let him see their puppies, a judge said.
Benny Tiller's grandmother told CBS affiliate WVLT he was found guilty of first degree murder in the October 4, 2015 death of his neighbor, McKayla Dyer.
Jefferson County Juvenile Court judge Dennis "Will" Roach II sentenced the boy to state custody until he turns 19.
In his order, Roach said the state should use all reasonable resources to determine why Benny shot the girl, and he should be treated and rehabilitated so this never happens again.
"A child who commits first-degree murder cannot be willy-nilly turned loose into society," Roach wrote.
The boy is currently in detention and being evaluated as to where he should be placed, said Rob Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Children's Services.
"Like any other child who comes into custody, he would need a thorough assessment and evaluation to determine the best placement," Johnson said. "At this time, it would likely be at an intensive treatment program at one of our private providers."
(...)
The judge said McKayla, her 11-year-old sister and another girl, also 11, were playing outside and talking to the boy while he was sitting at his bedroom window. He asked the sisters to go get their puppies, the judge's order said, and when they refused he went and got a 12-gauge shotgun and a BB gun and told the girls he had guns.
According to the judge's description of the events, McKayla laughed at him and responded that the guns weren't real.
The boy "then made certain the gun was loaded, cocked the hammer on the gun and shot the victim just above the heart at a downward trajectory," the judge wrote.
The girl fell backward, "quickly lost consciousness, and was later confirmed dead," the judge wrote, adding that three witnesses saw McKayla within one minute after she was shot.
"The mother of the child knelt on the ground and picked her up, placing her child in her arms as she passed away."
Benny had been trained in firearm safety and had hunted with his father and grandfather, the judge noted.
Benny Tiller's grandmother told CBS affiliate WVLT he was found guilty of first degree murder in the October 4, 2015 death of his neighbor, McKayla Dyer.
Jefferson County Juvenile Court judge Dennis "Will" Roach II sentenced the boy to state custody until he turns 19.
In his order, Roach said the state should use all reasonable resources to determine why Benny shot the girl, and he should be treated and rehabilitated so this never happens again.
"A child who commits first-degree murder cannot be willy-nilly turned loose into society," Roach wrote.
The boy is currently in detention and being evaluated as to where he should be placed, said Rob Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Children's Services.
"Like any other child who comes into custody, he would need a thorough assessment and evaluation to determine the best placement," Johnson said. "At this time, it would likely be at an intensive treatment program at one of our private providers."
(...)
The judge said McKayla, her 11-year-old sister and another girl, also 11, were playing outside and talking to the boy while he was sitting at his bedroom window. He asked the sisters to go get their puppies, the judge's order said, and when they refused he went and got a 12-gauge shotgun and a BB gun and told the girls he had guns.
According to the judge's description of the events, McKayla laughed at him and responded that the guns weren't real.
The boy "then made certain the gun was loaded, cocked the hammer on the gun and shot the victim just above the heart at a downward trajectory," the judge wrote.
The girl fell backward, "quickly lost consciousness, and was later confirmed dead," the judge wrote, adding that three witnesses saw McKayla within one minute after she was shot.
"The mother of the child knelt on the ground and picked her up, placing her child in her arms as she passed away."
Benny had been trained in firearm safety and had hunted with his father and grandfather, the judge noted.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/27/parents-sued-after-boy-killed-8-year-old-in-puppy-dispute.html
And what's this going to solve, cause nobody's got that kind of money, do they want to just bankrupt the boy's family?
And what's this going to solve, cause nobody's got that kind of money, do they want to just bankrupt the boy's family?
Maykayla Dyer, age 8
I grew up around guns as well. My Mom carried a .38 revolver in her purse all the time, and it never crossed my mind to shoot anyone or anything. I understand the issue here: unless you are shown in real life what a gun can actually do - smell the powder, hear that explosion and see the destruction, you just don't get it.
How is it that this kid manage to lay his hands on a LOADED SHOTGUN? Where were the parents to see this 11 year old kid pick up a loaded gun??
Charge this kid, yes; but charge the parents too.
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