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https://muskogeenow.com/muskogee-pair-charged-in-life-threatening-child-abuse-case
Logan Odell Bigelow and Laura Renai Sullivan of Muskogee are facing child abuse charges after police discovered a small child with "life-threatening" injuries.

Police were called to 2400 S. Cherokee, Trailer 39, on possible child abuse complaints around 8 p.m. on Aug. 17, according to an affidavit filed with the case.

When officers arrived, they discovered a four-year-old with bruises, a broken finger, swelling and a brain bleed. The child, abuse specialists concluded, had also been shaken violently.

An affidavit with the case states the child was four years old, but the case itself states the child was six.

The child, who is the child of Sullivan, was rushed to Saint Francis Hospital in Tulsa, where the child remains in critical condition.
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I need an angry face :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: there we go. I really wanna :punch::rage::punch::rage::punch::rage: these two ingrates all up in their useless ass faces until they look like this :wacky::YOW::blackeye::dead::hungover:.
Absolutely useless if you gotta beat upon a kid to make your useless ass feelings valid. Fuck your feelings.
 
This is my ex husband and I'm sick by this, she has 5 children and one that was taken from her in 2001. My ex hasn't seen his son in a very long time. 2014 for a few minutes and before that years again. He was a drug addict and abusive I begged this woman to leave him but at this point I've found out more than they are saying on the news. :/
 
This is my ex husband and I'm sick by this, she has 5 children and one that was taken from her in 2001. My ex hasn't seen his son in a very long time. 2014 for a few minutes and before that years again. He was a drug addict and abusive I begged this woman to leave him but at this point I've found out more than they are saying on the news. :/
I can't imagine how this is affecting you. Thank you for sharing. Please share whatever information you can. Hang in there. I'm sorry for you and your son...as well as all the other children involved.
 
This woman has five kids blah blah...and there your husband was living off and feeding his

addiction from her children's mouths.

Both of you are stupid. Not seeing your son since 2014 is probably the best thing he ever did

for your kid....like ever.
 
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I can't imagine how this is affecting you. Thank you for sharing. Please share whatever information you can. Hang in there. I'm sorry for you and your son...as well as all the other children involved.
Thank you very much, you have no idea how much it means that someone understands that it is effecting me, I'm not at all trying to be selfish and get attention, honestly I wouldn't want it not that way for sure. I just was looking for information and honestly somewhere I might be able to talk. I'm married now and my husband is pissed that I'm upset in the slightest and says he's just getting what's coming to him and so on... While I completely understand that rational it's still disturbing to think I spent 5 years with this man and we had a child together and I never in a million years would have suspected this happening. Cps (child welfare) called me today to get as much information on him as they could and dig up dirt on him . I didn't think I'd be much help but she seemed to think it was helpful. He never laid a hand on my son, I caught him making meth while I was at work two different times when I couldn't take custody from him but the first time I didn't even know what I was seeing, the second time I knew and it was the last! We had moved 6 hours away from all the negative bad people that supposedly was the reason for him not being able to stop so that is why I trusted that was it and he wouldn't ever do it again. I'm very ignorant to drugs as I've not had a past with them. Or I was, after this al happened I armed myself with the knowledge I needed to know what materials I needed to look out for when I was around him. I've been with my husband for nearly 5 years and he's taken my son under his wing like his own but I have no father (I've had a few shitty stand ins) and know what it's like to not be picked, to not feel important enough for my father to call, email, text, or even just ask my mother how I was. No birthdays, Christmass, or any acknowledgement of my existence for 26 years. That's tough and I know a lot of people know that struggle and always wonder if it was in some way them or the burden that came along with having to father me. I didn't want that for my son. I was married to his father that is rare to see a man be here through the pregnancy and a year after and then have nothing to do with the child. I think. I would think the attachment would be strong at that point. He loved his son very much and was so proud of him! I don't think I could have met a prouder father. He was avusive on the past and things got bad for us and then I found out he was sling drugs again. (He stopped when I threatened to leave him 2 months into our relationship. I was 17 and stupid! And of course in love. So I always thought he'd get his shit together and be a good father I gage him countless chances all while my now husband sat back seathing at the very thought of it. But I was not going to be that woman that got a bf and then decided things would just be easier for ME if my past wasn't there to bother me or knock on my door every other weekend. So I even begged him for our son to be there. I think he tried but I think the drugs won unfortunately. I know people might roll their eyes and think I'm an idiot and I'm in no way standing up for this mans actions I mean even one scratch on another child deserves jail time in my eyes! But I do not believe he would ever hurt his own children. I'm sick because this little girl is in the hospital who we all know didn't deserve this, I'm sick that I couldn't get that woman to listen to me as many times as I plead with her and told her he would ruin her life and I'm sick that my son may never ever get to know who his true father was at one point in time. Not the person he is now but the person I saw in him when we got pregnant and the person I know he could have been if he had just stopped doing drugs. I don't think he was doing meth anymore, meth makes him very very skinny. This is a 6'7 man so you can tell when he is on meth! Other stuff? Maybe... Drinking? I could definitely see that! That's when he used to beat me. More than likely this man (my sons father) will die in prison because people(including me) don't like child abusers and he should have already been in prison! He had 4 warrants out for his arrest and they would never ever put him in prison or jail for more than 2 weeks... I can't imagine why.... He will not make it because he knows stuff a lot of stuff that other people don't want getting out there and he's given a lot of it already which is why he was out in the first place and able to do this! This county will have a lot of questions to answer considering this fact. Nark or not no amount of information was important enough for this baby girl to be hurt! I know exactly how this will all play out! She wants her kids and they want him (she doesn't have too much of a criminal record) so they will simply tell her to say she was scared he would kill her so she couldn't call the cops and blah blah and pin it all on him when she knew exactly what she was playing with from the very beginning FIRE! She even knew that he was still in love with me and told her that if I ever changed my mind he'd leave her and be with me! I told her this and she still stayed with him. I wish I had a husband I could talk to about this! I wish my husband understood what it felt like for a split second to not be chosen by your blood! Then maybe he'd understand! But probably not. He's just jealous that if even give it a second thought. I'm not thinking about myself though and I wish I knew how to portray that more clearly. I took my ring off tonight. I do know I want to be with a man that will talk with me and be there for me and actually help me get through all this rather than make me feel like shit for caring about my sons future and beyond tomorrow! Also they have a 3 week old, and a one and a half year old together. Both of which were taken into custody. I wish I could take those babies and love them!
 
and I'm sick that my son may never ever get to know who his true father was at one point in time. Not the person he is now but the person I saw in him when we got pregnant and the person I know he could have been if he had just stopped doing drugs.

You're fucking dumb...your son's father is who he is. when you were seventeen and now.

He's a fucking loser.

I'm married now and my husband is pissed that I'm upset in the slightest and says he's just getting what's coming to him and so on...

Your husband is right...And If I was him and seen this post I would fucking leave you.

Like your kid has a good man in his life...celebrate that...this asshole is not worth

even one of your tears. Nope he is not.
 
Wait... I'm dumb because I know what it's like to not be wanted by a father? He made a decision that will forever effect my son and it's extremely upsetting! I don't want anything to do with this man if I had I would have been with him and he would have rights to his son he doesn't because he fucked up over and over again and let drugs change him. People can be good and be changed by drugs.. It does happen and I think it's silly for you to judge a situation you know so little about. I also think it's shitty that my husband looks at my son and at times says all he can think about is the piece of shit he came from! That's one of my biggest problems, he's never shown him anything but a good life but that still is disturbing to me and I think it should be for any mother. He doesn't understand the connection that is there when you have a child with someone else or understand that no matter how good of a father he is at some point a child will want to know the truth and want to know what happened it already had in my situation and of course I won't give him all the information. As far as my husband and I go I'm considering separating because I think it's sad that someone online can understand that it is something I also have will not be able to just shake after hearing of it and not because of me but because of the reputation that this man will forever have and how my son will be affected by it on top of the fact that the very idea that he was capable of something so horrific really does make you think twice about how well you think you know someone. I didn't have to talk or share any of this I chose to and I guess that means I also have to hear things I don't like at times and different opinions and that's okay. Thanks
 
You're fucking dumb...your son's father is who he is. when you were seventeen and now.

He's a fucking loser.



Your husband is right...And If I was him and seen this post I would fucking leave you.

Like your kid has a good man in his life...celebrate that...this asshole is not worth

even one of your tears. Nope he is not.
I never ever cried for this man fuck him I'm crying for my son and that innocent child and my sons siblings it's heart breaking all while my husband says I don't know why you care about this when kids die everyday what's the difference between this one and any other!? Well because maybe it will effect my son one day and that sucks! You clearly don't have children or you have never been faced with a difficult situation like this or you'd get it
 
Would you shut the ever loving fuck up @lithiumgirl? I swear it's like you LOOK for people directly related in a thread and call them names, tell them they're stupid and that her husband should leave her? Fuck the hell right off, you gigantic, pretentious, judgmental CUNT!
 
Would you shut the ever loving fuck up @lithiumgirl? I swear it's like you LOOK for people directly related in a thread and call them names, tell them they're stupid and that her husband should leave her? Fuck the hell right off, you gigantic, pretentious, judgmental CUNT!

I am not...nope I'm not...If I'm wrong about somebodies (anyone's) stupidity on any given day

I apologize for it. Just not today...or in this instance.
 
You clearly don't have children or you have never been faced with a difficult situation like this or you'd get it


I get more than you'd ever imagine...and I'll let that slight slide because you just turned up here

and haven't read enough of my post to realise that.

But I stand everything in my post. The best you could do for your husband or your son

is simply say good riddance. You want your son to be effected by this...and if you don't

you should. There are silver linings everywhere if you know where to look.

Half my life I walked around going don't be like that...or that...or look what happens

when you do this....don't do that. And it worked I'm not any of those things.

Just don;t come around here this woman had five kids blah blah blah...while your ex

was feeding his addiction on their dole...or otherwise hurting her children.
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Or any instance.

When it makes you feel GOOD to make someone else feel BAD, there's something fucking wrong with YOU.


But it doesn't make me feel good when i make other people feel bad....I don't have that kind of

power, and it wouldn't make me feel good anyway.
 
I knew you could too!

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See reason I mean.
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She even knew that he was still in love with me and told her that if I ever changed my mind he'd leave her and be with me! I told her this and she still stayed with him. I wish I had a husband I could talk to about this! I wish my husband understood what it felt like for a split second to not be chosen by your blood!

You're absolutely fucked.


this asshole is not worth even one of your tears

Stolen from Clarence Worley --- True Romance
 
Would you shut the ever loving fuck up @lithiumgirl? I swear it's like you LOOK for people directly related in a thread and call them names, tell them they're stupid and that her husband should leave her? Fuck the hell right off, you gigantic, pretentious, judgmental CUNT!

lithiumgirl is the worst boarder here. every time i have to see one of her idiotic posts i regret not logging in
[doublepost=1472248239,1472248084][/doublepost]"here's me thinking..."
 
Geez...get your own material. Didn't Pete already post that gif numerous times. Yawn

Its my post and I can steal Pete's monkey if I want to.

lithiumgirl is the worst boarder here. every time i have to see one of her idiotic posts i regret not logging in

I'm here everyday. I have's seen you bitch (literally bitching, not calling you a name) in a while.
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Geez...get your own material. Didn't Pete already post that gif numerous times. Yawn

I just quoted Clarence Worley...you want to complain or otherwise rag on that too.
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You thought it was FUNNY! --- Clarence Worley - True Romance
 
I am not...nope I'm not...If I'm wrong about somebodies (anyone's) stupidity on any given day

I apologize for it. Just not today...or in this instance.
Because in this instance your the expert right? What a wonderful thing to be an expert about!? Maybe that's your problem you think? Maybe you're so fucked up in the head, you can't think straight let alone see who the good and or the bad guys are in this scenario, maybe you're just too damn close to home and should shut the fuck up... Just because you think that you are the expert on my life, my exs, my husbands, and most importantly my sons doesn't actually mean you are.. And if by a crazy chance I met a random person online that was the "expert" I damn sure would think and have a pretty good idea they wouldn't come off as pretentious and ugly as you have because they would already know that a shitty situation like this wouldn't need to be made any shittier than it already was! Which tells me you don't know shit! But thank you so much for the wisdom you've brought to this shit table! And the next time I want to be reminded about how low I or anyone else can go I'll be sure and look you up or better yet just say that I'm hurt by any given event that might be viewed by others as I know you've got my and everyone else's backs, you won't let us down and will be sure to show your ever proverbial ass of a self. Unless my box full of messages are all wrong about you and your really a caring human being that only pretends to give a small flying fuck about children right!? Oh wait I was right about that wasn't I? You don't have any.. Do us all a favor and don't! I'm a very nice person but this is what happens when you mess with a mother! Something I can only hope you'll take my advise on and choose not ever have to have an idea about!
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I knew you could too!

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See reason I mean.
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You're absolutely fucked.




Stolen from Clarence Worley --- True Romance
The thing you quoted doesn't even make sense!? I was trying to let her know he was using her and I didn't want him and she shouldn't either... And then went back to talking about wishing I had a supportive spouse.. Yet that makes me "fucked" I've got s feeling I'm better off than you are at this point, my dear.
 
Oh wait I was right about that wasn't I? You don't have any..

You're wrong...I have three adult sons, and one deceased daughter. Her...she made me go off the

rails. Drug abuse...addiction...those were my best friends after she died and then

recovery...grow or die right.

You need therapy to deal with the angst you feel about your father abandoning you,

other wise you're going to pass that on to your son.

So what his father is in big trouble...that belongs to his father not your boy and you

shouldn't make your son carry that around. I bet your son is lots of things

so you should focus on that. Celebrate those differences and teach him that he is not

just the boy who was abandoned.

Put your fucking ring back on ... you have a good man. (your words)

Who cares about this lady, she didn't heed your warnings,

she made her bed and now she is sleeping in it.

Its karma...the wheel turns...goes around and comes back around.

its been that way since the beginning of time.
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I've got s feeling I'm better off than you are at this point, my dear.


Nope you're not...you're not even close.
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The thing you quoted doesn't even make sense!?

I know it doesn't that's why I quoted you...see how crazy you sound.
 
My son has no idea he's "abandoned" actually... And I can absolutely separate from a man that has no idea how to show me support or care without being the bad guy.. I never said anything about who he was as a person I'm pretty sure I simply stated he treats my son good or something to that extent. That doesn't mean he treats me good, it doesn't mean he has done anything right other than be a decent father and I'm pretty sure you would know that it's possible to be a good spouse or a good parent without being the other seeing as how you just stated you had children of your own. My husband isn't good to me at all but he's a good dad for the most part which is why I've stayed with him to be honest! And my issues with my father leaving me are something I've never let effect my decisions as a parent or a wife's but I think it's okay for me to also want more for my son than I had. I had a mother and was passed back and forth from my grandparents and that's okay because life could have been worse. I'm not angry or resentful of anyone and have a good relationship with my bio now, but growing up I did have some resent which is the opposite of what I want for him! He's a little boy and he will at some point when he's older be hurt by this and it's also okay for me to mourn something he will later on realize he's lost forever. I don't think my husband will be my husband for 5 more years but I do think he will be my sons father not bio and that's okay also. I made a good decision getting rid of that man and also takin his rights from him but I can promise you, I will have to answer for it later and I will have to explain to him what happened because we are all human and we all want to know what happened when we weren't old enough to understand. I don't need counseling for my father issues I needed a place to talk about the current issue at hand and now you've turned this post into something I really wasn't expecting and definitely wouldn't have commented on had I known it would go here. You of course had the right to make this post about whatever you pleased it's yours after all! Just not what I needed right now is all.
 
This woman has five kids blah blah...and there your husband was living off and feeding his

addiction from her children's mouths.

Both of you are stupid. Not seeing your son since 2014 is probably the best thing he ever did

for your kid....like ever.

Don't you ever shut the fuck up?? Jesus H Christ....all you do is try to bring people down....you've got no fucking class on anything....always butting in and trying to take a huge shit on someone's misfortune....

I've never known someone has bitter as your ass....same fucking shit....different fucking day.....

How in the hell do you live with yourself? How in the fuck can you look at yourself in the damn mirror and constantly tell yourself, that you're gonna rise above the stink pile?

You disgust me.
 
You're wrong...I have three adult sons, and one deceased daughter. Her...she made me go off the

rails. Drug abuse...addiction...those were my best friends after she died and then

recovery...grow or die right.

You need therapy to deal with the angst you feel about your father abandoning you,

other wise you're going to pass that on to your son.

So what his father is in big trouble...that belongs to his father not your boy and you

shouldn't make your son carry that around. I bet your son is lots of things

so you should focus on that. Celebrate those differences and teach him that he is not

just the boy who was abandoned.

Put your fucking ring back on ... you have a good man. (your words)

Who cares about this lady, she didn't heed your warnings,

she made her bed and now she is sleeping in it.

Its karma...the wheel turns...goes around and comes back around.

its been that way since the beginning of time.
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Nope you're not...you're not even close.
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I know it doesn't that's why I quoted you...see how crazy you sound.
as in it doesn't make sense you quoted it..pretty sure I understand what I said , I even reiterated...
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Don't you ever shut the fuck up?? Jesus H Christ....all you do is try to bring people down....you've got no fucking class on anything....always butting in and trying to take a huge shit on someone's misfortune....

I've never known someone has bitter as your ass....same fucking shit....different fucking day.....

How in the hell do you live with yourself? How in the fuck can you look at yourself in the damn mirror and constantly tell yourself, that you're gonna rise above the stink pile?

You disgust me.
Right? Yet I'm being lectured on what I should do with my son?! I think I'll do the exact opposite thank you very much.. We haven't all shit away our lives yet lol
 
I simply stated he treats my son good or something to that extent. That doesn't mean he treats me good,

So I suppose you should get some therapy so you stop dating men that treat you badly.
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You disgust me.

And you misinterpret just about every god damn thing I say...maybe, just maybe

this is your problem.
 
You're wrong...I have three adult sons, and one deceased daughter. Her...she made me go off the

rails. Drug abuse...addiction...those were my best friends after she died and then

recovery...grow or die right.

You need therapy to deal with the angst you feel about your father abandoning you,

other wise you're going to pass that on to your son.

So what his father is in big trouble...that belongs to his father not your boy and you

shouldn't make your son carry that around. I bet your son is lots of things

so you should focus on that. Celebrate those differences and teach him that he is not

just the boy who was abandoned.

Put your fucking ring back on ... you have a good man. (your words)

Who cares about this lady, she didn't heed your warnings,

she made her bed and now she is sleeping in it.

Its karma...the wheel turns...goes around and comes back around.

its been that way since the beginning of time.
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Nope you're not...you're not even close.
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I know it doesn't that's why I quoted you...see how crazy you sound.
Also I've lost a child. So I guess if I were you I'd talk about how weak you were and how much of a piece of shit it makes you for going off the deep end when you had other children to take care of!? I won't say that though, do you know why!? Because you are human and I don't pretend to be better than anyone else or act as if I know I'm an expert on how you feel just because we've both lost a child. I don't know how you lost your child but mine was in a pretty unimaginably shitty way that I wouldn't wish on anyone! Yet I was able to get through without it effecting my children in a bad way. But like I said I'm no expert!!
 
So I suppose you should get some therapy so you stop dating men that treat you badly.
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And you misinterpret just about every god damn thing I say...maybe, just maybe

this is your problem.

Hahahah!!! What a god damn hoot you are!!!

And you still disgust me.
 
Also I've lost a child. So I guess if I were you I'd talk about how weak you were and how much of a piece of shit it makes you for going off the deep end when you had other children to take care of!?

My family had a lot of support ...a good father, two sets of loving grandparents and

I have three brothers with family and cousins. They remained kids thankfully

through all of that.

It was me that had to work through my issues with grief and I did.

And if I could go back and do it all over again ... I wouldn't change a thing.

Those day's made me ... grow or die right.
 
So I suppose you should get some therapy so you stop dating men that treat you badly.
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And you misinterpret just about every god damn thing I say...maybe, just maybe

this is your problem.
I probably should get therapy, I hear it can do everyone some good. That doesn't bother me a bit. Life hasn't treated me all that great, but I will always do the best I can and I won't make excuses for it! That would be a daddy issue which I'm sure your aware of? Dating men that are most like your own father or shitty? Reality is I wanted to make sure and still will, I won't run away from my problems because I am one of the reasons why they are happening, I will teach my children to try and work on things and Jew your head held high for as long as possible especially when they've made a commitment like the one I've made with their father. But it sucks and it hurts!
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My family had a lot of support ...a good father, two sets of loving grandparents and

I have three brothers with family and cousins. They remained kids thankfully

through all of that.

It was me that had to work through my issues with grief and I did.

And if I could go back and do it all over again ... I wouldn't change a thing.

Those day's made me ... grow or die right.
You wouldn't do what again? I don't understand this... Grief? Your child?
 
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