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I see a lot of similarities with this case:
"... a whole family disappeared : Xavier Flactif, his partner, Graziella and their three children. Their cottage located in The Grand Bornand is found empty, everything looked to be in order but ready-made meals are found and the fridge is full of food...
http://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hotyat-david.htm

That's why I think the father is right, the perp is someone they knew, someone full of jealousy, anger against a beautifull and happy family with enough money to buy a house.

I agree, they knew the people, however, I think they owed money to someone ..
 
PUBLISHED: 16:14 GMT, 21 November 2013 | UPDATED: 17:03 GMT, 21 November 2013

EXCLUSIVE: Police investigate mystery 'digger' track marks found at McStay family desert grave site 'left by killer who had local knowledge' as victim's brother insists 'everyone is a suspect.
  • Old track marks 67 inches apart found at site where the skeletal remains of McStay family were found in California desert - 100 miles from family home they vanished from in 2010
  • Joseph McStay's brother, Michael, tells MailOnline he's convinced killer had local knowledge
  • There is quarry nearby so sight of a digger would not be out of place
  • A shooting range is down street too - so sound of gunshots is commonplace
  • Michael says everyone is a suspect and he expects to be quizzed again
  • Family held emotional memorial at grave site yesterday on and sang happy birthday to Joseph on the day he would have turned 44
  • Close friend Chase Merritt who has been accused of having a hand in their disappearance broke his silence with MailOnline after family's remains were found last Friday

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-McStay-family-grave-site.html#ixzz2mFzGwh4n
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/23/mcstay-children-remains-id_n_4327351.html
SAN BERNARDINO -- San Bernardino County Sheriff's officials confirmed through DNA evidence the remains of the two children found in shallow graves in Victorville have been positively identified as Joseph Jr. and Gianni McStay, the sons of Joseph and Summer McStay....

If they've ID'd the kids through DNA, wouldn't they know by now when they were killed? Was it right after they disappeared or a year ago? I'd like to know.

Also, about the tracks, I can't believe LE missed them. I think LE filled in the graves before they let the public back in the area. That's where the tracks are from.

myra...I'm sorry, I goofed, but I fixed it.
 
Moved towards Mexico to run his business, car found near Mexico, kids killed...dad was seriously in debt to some drug traffickers/dealers. 'Normal' criminals don't kill the kids. Just a guess.
 
I believe they were abducted from their home...there were several signs they left in a hurry...not as the family would have left things. I don't believe the parents were involved in criminal activity. They were in the right place at the wrong time. Victims.
 
The brother, Michael Mc Stay had made some rather concerning comments. Between the disappearance and long before the bodies were found he said something to the effect of, "At this point I think we're looking for two adult shallow graves and my two nephews' crosses."
How would he know they'd be in TWO "adult"shallow graves? Why not one mass grave or four individual graves? And who references adult or child sized graves? The brother also removed items from his brother and sister-in-law's home while still stating they were missing/possibly kidnapped, that they wouldn't have left like that....so he was removing items from what he himself believed was a crime scene. He also claimed to not know the area where the bodies were found, but then supposedly was the one who clued the cops in to the Bobcat digging machine tracks and pointed out the quarry nearby, saying it wouldn't be odd to have heavy machinery in the area. He then further mentions a shooting range nearby (in this area he's never seen before) and says it wouldn't be odd to hear gun shots in the area either. There were also withdrawals from the family's $100,000 bank account after the disappearance and before it was frozen. Withdrawals made by the family mouthpiece, Michael McStay.
Too sketchy in my opinion.
 
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The brother, Michael Mc Stay had made some rather concerning comments. Between the disappearance and long before the bodies were found he said something to the effect of, "At this point I think we're looking for two adult shallow graves and my two nephews' crosses."
How would he know they'd be in TWO "adult"shallow graves? Why not one mass grave or four individual graves? And who references adult or child sized graves? The brother also removed items from his brother and sister-in-law's home while still stating they were missing/possibly kidnapped, that they wouldn't have left like that....so he was removing items from what he himself believed was a crime scene. He also claimed to not know the area where the bodies were found, but then supposedly was the one who clued the cops in to the Bobcat digging machine tracks and pointed out the quarry nearby, saying it wouldn't be odd to have heavy machinery in the area. He then further mentions a shooting range nearby (in this area he's never seen before) and says it wouldn't be odd to hear gun shots in the area either. There were also withdrawals from the family's $100,000 bank account after the disappearance and before it was frozen. Withdrawals made by the family mouthpiece, Michael McStay.
Too sketchy in my opinion.
When I watched the nancy grave mysteries on the mcstay family... My first thought was something is sketchy with the brother
 
EXCLUSIVE - Best friend, business partner and suspect: Man who was last to see McStay father alive breaks silence to reveal new clues in mystery murder of family who vanished

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...der-mystery-breaks-silence.html#ixzz2meMKdPZ2

  • Chase Merritt, 56, has been accused of having a hand in the disappearance nearly four years ago of the McStay family
  • Broke his silence with MailOnline after family's remains were found in a shallow grave in the desert last Friday
  • Says he voluntarily took a lie detector test when family left their home in a hurry in 2010
  • Husband Joseph McStay called his phone at 8.28pm that night but Merritt bitterly regrets not answering because he was watching a film
  • Claims wife Summer McStay was insanely jealous with 'one hell of a temper' but can't believe she played a role
  • Believes there's no way the McStays would have wanted to move to Mexico
  • Says 'honest guy' Joseph would never have done deal with Mexican cartels
  • Fully expects to be interviewed again by detectives after bodies were found
 
Paddle-Out Memorial Planned for McStay Family
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Paddle-Out-Memorial-Planned-for-McStay-Family-235892301.html

A public paddle-out memorial service is in the works for San Diego’s slain McStay family, according to a website managed by surviving family members.

On Nov. 11 – more than three-and-a-half years after mysteriously vanishing from their Fallbrook home – the skeletal remains of the McStay family were found in and around shallow graves in the high desert outside of Victorville, Calif.



Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...or-McStay-Family-235892301.html#ixzz2nYkbT3Lt
 
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/24235590/mcstay-murder-mystery-who-is-michael-mcfadden
McStay murder mystery: Who is Michael McFadden?

LAGUNA BEACH, Calif. (CBS 8) -- It has been five weeks since the skeletal remains of Joseph and Summer McStay and their two young sons were found buried in the high desert near Victorville.

CBS News 8 investigated several people associated with the Fallbrook family that went missing in February 2010, and then was found murdered on November 11.

Michael James McFadden is the current husband of Joseph McStay's ex-wife, Heather; and the step-father of Joseph's McStay's now 17-year-old son by the first marriage.

A few months before the McStay family disappeared from their Fallbrook home on Feb. 4, 2010, Summer McStay filed a Child Protective Services complaint against McFadden, according to Joseph McStay's father, Patrick McStay.
 
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/11/20/mcstay-family-murdered-will-desert-graves-yield-their-killers/

McStay Family Murdered: Will Desert Graves Yield Their Killers?
Gianni and Chubba were as inseparable in life as they were in death when they were recovered in a shallow grave in the Mojave Desert on November 11.
Their parents, Joseph, 40 and Summer McStay, 43, were located in a separate grave nearby.
A 3rd gravesite was found-but empty. A protected source not authorized to speak to the media has confirmed that at least one of the parent’s remains was bound by an electrical cord.

I knew it!
The dad killed them all, then killed himself ..
 
This family puts the "fun" in dysFUNctional family. I haven't read through everything to understand what is going on, but Patrick cracks me up because he is such a drama queen. Thought you all might be interested in reading the drama, too.
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I will not dignify the comments made on another page. What I will say is we have the text messages that were sent to my Aunt (by Michael) and we have recordings of Susan and her comments to my Aunt. If they continue to lie about this I will publish every single word on the internet and the public can see what was said and judge from them. It started with me being told that if I didn't apologize to Joey's ex-wife I wouldn't be allowed to attend. Then later it changed and grew to the other story. So if the lies continue I will publish all the phone conversations and the nasty texts Michael sent to his Aunt!. So tell me if this is all about me then why did Susan and Michael ban my Aunt and Uncle (they always considered them there Aunt and Uncle) when he and especially Joey were so close to them throughout there lives. Stop with the lie's if you are a true Christian as you claim! Now he reduces this to a public spectacle as they were doing with the Services. They also contain the banning of the Aranda's and that will also be proven in the calls. I also have conversations with others that prove me to be correct.
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Why don't we hear about all the crazy in the newspaper articles?!

Lynn Marquardt

Patrick: There is a person claiming to be "a good friend of yours" posting on several sites that you and other family members have been uninvited to the memorial, etc. Please tell me this is incorrect?

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    - Lynn Marquardt - Sorry it is correct. My Aunt and Uncle along with me and the Aranda Family. My Aunt was contacted and told directly by two people telling them that!
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Oh, he always makes threats. It cracks me up. He fights with almost everyone. Things got ridiculous between Patrick and his McStay FB page and Micheal and his McStay FB page. I had to unsubscribe to them.

It can be very entertaining though, which is really sad because a family (was missing) is dead and is lost in all the drama.
 
McStay murder mystery: Who is Dan Kavanaugh?

http://www.cbs8.com/story/24277118/mcstay-murder-mystery-who-is-dan-kavanaugh
SAN DIEGO, Calif. (CBS 8) -- Joseph McStay, 40, his wife Summer McStay, 43, and their two sons, Gianni, 5, and Joey, Jr., 4, went missing from their Fallbrook home in February 2010.

It would be almost four years before the skeletal remains of the family were discovered in shallow graves near Victorville on November 11.

Within a week of the family's disappearance in 2010, large sums of money started being transferred out of Joseph McStay's business bank account.

Where was the money going? Who was transferring it and why?

CBS News 8 caught up with the employee who admitted to his involvement in some of those transactions.
At first, Dan Kavanaugh, 32, was reluctant to talk about his former employer, Joseph McStay, when a CBS News 8 camera crew came knocking at his apartment door in Little Italy.

"No news questions right now bud, sorry, can't do it," said Kavanaugh.

A web designer by trade, Kavanaugh had been in charge of developing the online presence for Earth Inspired Products, Joseph McStay's custom fountain design and manufacturing business.

Eventually, Kavanaugh opened up to CBS News 8, denying that he had anything to do with the family's disappearance or murder.
 
I remember seeing the E! Gay Hollywood Story on this..... I remember his family talking shit about Summer (wife) and how she was shady and secretive. Apparently her real name wasn't Summer, she had changed it years prior. I'm just curious why they bashed her and then haven't really said much about that angle again. I was curious why she changed her name...
 
I remember seeing the E! Gay Hollywood Story on this..... I remember his family talking shit about Summer (wife) and how she was shady and secretive. Apparently her real name wasn't Summer, she had changed it years prior. I'm just curious why they bashed her and then haven't really said much about that angle again. I was curious why she changed her name...


If I remember right, she has many aliases, too. She was convicted of credit card fraud, too, if I remember correctly.
 
She did change her name several times over the years. She had also been involved in some shady mortgage business at her work, but then again a lot of mortgage places were doing some shady stuff during this time period, so take that with a grain of salt.
 
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Charles Chase Merritt, 57, has been arrested for murders of Joseph and Summer McStay and their two children, 4-year-old Gianni and 3-year-old Joseph Jr.
Suspect arrested in the murders of California family who disappeared four years ago
Charles (Chase) Merritt, a convicted felon, has been charged with four counts of murder. Joseph McStay and his wife, Summer, and their two young sons disappeared
[...]
A suspect has been arrested and charged with four counts of murder in the slaying of a California family who disappeared four years ago
[....]

Charles (Chase) Merritt, 57, a former business associate and friend of Joseph McStay, was arrested Wednesday and is being held without bail in San Bernardino County, Sheriff John McMahon said in a press conference. He declined to disclose a motive for the killings. He has been charged killing Joseph, his wife, Summer, and their two small sons, Gianni, 4, and Joseph Jr., 3.

He acted alone, McMahon said. Blunt-force trauma was the cause of death and the killings happened in the family's Fallbrook home
[...]
Merrit has at least two felony convictions and has served prison time, authorities said.

Michael McStay, Joseph's brother, choked back tears Friday as he thanked homicide investigators and Sheriff McMahon for sticking with the case and arresting a suspect. "They did a great job," he said. "You have no idea what this means,"
[...]
weeping. "I just wanted to see it through. Joseph was a great brother and a great father."

Joseph owned a company that made water fountains and had offered work to Merritt, the brother said. "He tried to help Chase and this is what he got,"
[...]
Authorities said the suspect and Joseph McStay had business relations, and were friends, but did not elaborate.
The McStays disappeared from their San Diego County home in 2010, under deeply mysterious circumstances.
[...]
Last year, a motorcyclist in San Bernardino County found two shallow graves near Interstate 15, about 100 miles from the family's Fallbrook home. The family's remains were identified through dental records.

The McStay's SUV was discovered in the California border town of San Ysidro, where it had been towed from the Mexican side. Surveillance footage appeared to show a family crossing the border, but authorities have determined the family was not the McStays, McMahon said Friday.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...calif-murders-mcstay-family-article-1.2002888
 
And after all his big talk about how much he loved McStay and how much he suffered financially after his death. His previous quote about hoping LE finds the assholes that did this. What a bunch of horseshit. Murdering fuck. So glad they finally were able to charge him.
 
And after all his big talk about how much he loved McStay and how much he suffered financially after his death. His previous quote about hoping LE finds the assholes that did this. What a bunch of horseshit. Murdering fuck. So glad they finally were able to charge him.
I'm not buyin that it would have been possible for him to pull it off by himself. It would have tsaken more than one person tpo put the dad dead into a car he was big, the mom would have fought like a hell cat for her children well known and how the hell could he hav e driven their car down to border them up to nor cal area by himself??? still think the little pos tech guy and the other freak that actually had a place near where they were found were involved too
 
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