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Boy Scout suicideSAN DIEGO, CA — A 12-year-old boy at a Boy Scout camp on Fiesta Island used a handgun to shoot and kill himself Monday morning, police said.

The boy was part of a group of around 20 who arrived at the camp from Las Vegas and were scheduled to stay at the camp until July 5, said Lt. Mike Hastings. Included with the group was a scout master and the boy’s father.

At around 7:36 a.m. Monday morning, police were called to the camp after the boy was found inside his tent suffering from a single gunshot wound. Initially reported that he’d been shot in the head, it is now being reported he’d shot himself once in the chest.

The boy’s identity has not been officially release and police have not said how the boy got his hands on the gun that was found inside the boy’s tent.

The camp allows Scouts to earn a variety of merit badges, sail and build leadership skills. Firearms are not allowed at the camp and the program offers no activities in which a firearm would be used.

The Boy Scouts said grief counselors were sent to work with the children and released the following statement:

“This is an extremely sad day for our entire scouting family. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and all those who experienced this tragedy. Our top priority is providing support to our community and for those in the grieving process.”

Speaking of dead Scouts… have you read The Troop yet? It’s the feel-good book of the year, hand down.

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  • Jessie

    I don’t care how old this kid was- what a dickhead for completely traumatizing the rest of his troop for the rest of their lives! Dick. Head.

  • thinkaboutit75

    He was trying to get the brain spatter badge

  • I_RIGHT_I

    I remember being 12 years old. It was nothing like that. Poor kid.

  • Flomox

    for some reason this set major alarms off.. WHY would he take that ‘ultimate escape’ during what would normally be a fun time for all? Makes me wonder if some adult had boundary issues and he didn’t want to go through that again….

  • Buffettgirl

    I feel badly for the kid, that at 12 he saw no other way to deal with whatever is bothering him, but WOW, did he have to fuck up his fellow scouts too? It seems like a rather large “FUCK YOU” to me…

  • Sejanus

    Gunshot suicide to the chest…holy moley that’s risky.
    Being 12 wasn’t bad.
    How could life be so shitty for a kid.

  • Xipe Toltec

    That totally needs further investigation. I think some foul play could be involved.

  • TinyCyborg

    My fiance was a boyscout from 5-18, and I was a girl scout from 5-16. Neither of us never experienced bullying in school on the extreme level as we did in Scouts. I was once locked in a box by other girls and left alone for hours to cry thinking I would die in there, as we got older I was convinced by a girl to kiss her, only to find out it was a trick and I would thereon be teased for being gay (yea, I know that makes about a much sense as John Wayne Gacy killing guys for being gay after he raped them, but I guess it makes sense to a 12 yr old). My fiance was humiliated and beaten several times by other scouts. He never made Eagle Scout because you need to be voted in and nobody liked him because he was a “nerd” which of course broke his heart after a literal lifetime of working towards it. Any small group of kids is going to have a pecking order, and if you’re on the bottom, its hell. I always tell myself when he and I are den parents someday, we’re going to be up our groups ass making sure this shit doesnt happen.

  • Desi_Foxx

    Why do I feel like there was something majorly weird going on here.

    My theory: The boy was being abused (in any way) by an adult or another kid in his scouts group. He brought the gun to camp to shoot his abuser (murder suicide type), but got scared and decided just off himself instead.

    Either way, what a miserable 4th of July for his family and everyone at the camp.

    (Unrelated: Once when I was about 16 I was at the town lake with my best friend on the 4th, and a classmate (& friend) of ours drowned right before our eyes. I’ll never forget that awful day.)

  • t0ofIy

    thank you, detective.

  • Stormclouds

    Umm… maybe look closer at the scouting master/father? There has to have been a reason for this…

  • Stormclouds

    People have problems, different people deal with it differently. Obviously, he saw this as the only way out.

  • Jessie

    Yeah, I understand the whole “suicide is my only way out” thing. Well not fully. What I don’t understand is involving a bunch of innocent eye witnesses to be permanently affected by it.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Actually I was thinking what an asshole the owner of the gun must be for exercising his/her rights in such a lethal way. Wonder if he/she even knew (or even knows) the gun was missing at the time the kid used it to self murder.

  • Chinchillazilla

    Probably because when you’re twelve and suicidal, you might not have much access to firearms. He could have just been like OH BOY, MY CHANCE and didn’t even think about anyone else.

  • shanshanity

    I was thinking the same. It’s highly probable he was left out &/or teased and for some kids it is enough to make life unbearable. Poor boy that he felt that bad.

  • Peggy Storer

    He probably did it at the camp to make a statement to the other scouts there. Almost like in Pearl Jams “Jeremy” video. Like a final fuck you!!

  • Jessie

    You know what’s funny Peggy? I read this story to a young coworker and asked if he had ever seen the Jeremy video. When he said no I made him watch and said exactly what you just did!

  • Aussie Sabbath

    Eh, after a week of barely any sleep and limited shower facilities, I’d wanna kill myself too.

  • Leasha

    Am I the only one thinking maybe it was a well-covered-up murder?

  • Leasha

    chest* spatter

  • http://batman-news.com Stanley_Ipkiss

    After all that you still want to send your kids to scouts?

  • Taster’sChoice

    Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I feel badly for all involved, especially for the little guy who felt there was no other option. Being a teenager has to be one of the most difficult times of one’s life. 15 was horribly difficult for me but I got through it.

  • Taster’sChoice

    At least he didn’t take out his siblings, etc first and THEN turned the gun on himself. My point being I guess it could have always (and often times is) been worse.

  • Taster’sChoice

    It’s all a matter of perspective I guess. My guess is to HIM whatever he was dealing with was insurmountable. Sad really.

  • thinkaboutit75

    noted

  • thinkaboutit75

    Maybe they were getting their back blowed out by one of the camp leaders

  • Jessie

    You are 100% correct; hit the nail on the head with this comment. It usually is worse… at least on this site :-p

  • Jessie

    Right??? Uhhhhh I would steer clear I think. There are plenty of other ways to teach your kids survival skills and how to work on a team.

  • http://batman-news.com Stanley_Ipkiss

    I think kids just think being a teenager is bad. I know I did..then I grew up and realised being a kid was piss easy compared to actually having responsibilities like family, work, bills and all the rest. If they actually knew the truth they would likely enjoy their childhood more and not be so dramatic.

  • Desi_Foxx

    piss off :)

  • LuvsHorror

    I could never be a teenager again, I wouldn’t survive it a second time. Can’t believe I did the first time.

  • Jessie

    “Self-murder”- Love it.

  • JohnQknowitall

    The word “suicide” has lost most of its impact. Sometimes only the definition keeps the impact. A “suicidal kid” sounds like someone else’s problem these days.

  • tkaz

    At 12 we really don’t think of how our actions will affect others. And we don’t know what was going on at home…

  • tkaz

    I’m sorry you both had such horrendous experiences. It’s right to make your scouts accountable should you ever be leaders.
    Scouting can be a great experience with the RIGHT LEADER. That’s key. We all know of abuse in the scouts & honestly, it’s just parents running the thing so they can be whack jobs.
    When I became a girl scout leader none of the moms wanted to leave their 5 yr old with me because they didn’t KNOW me. I get it, I would’ve felt the same way. I had those girls in my troop for only 5 years but now when I see them at the high school they still remember me & say hi. We never made it to camp…but it was a GOOD experience.
    Boy Scouts IS different – my husband was a Den Master for 2 years, I think he’s quitting this year. He only had our son & another boy in the den & the boys father was always there. But the people I met in the pack, all seemed to be there for the right reason – to ENRICH their sons life.
    So if a parent is involved in the scouts & can get a feel for the people “leading” the troop, it’s the safest way. If a parent wants this for their kid but hates the leader…they can form their own group. It’s not about the organization, it’s about the individuals leading it. If we are hands on & choose to be aware…it can be a positive experience.

  • Peggy Storer

    That’s so funny!

  • Jessie

    While I agree that we don’t know what was happening at home/scouts, I call baloney on not understanding how splattering bits of yourself all over your tent would affect people. 12 years old or 40.

  • tkaz

    I think a 12 yr old can figure out that people will be shocked..and sad..and angry…but I don’t think the long term affects are quite understood. His mom could grieve the rest of her life, the kids could have PTSD…I think THAT would be lost on him.
    Our brains aren’t developed until we’re 25, it would be nice if we could just NOT make major decisions until then.

  • McDanel_1771

    Scouting, all the humiliation of gym class locker rooms, times ten, plus isolation. I’ll point out that this way it wouldn’t be family that found him.

  • McDanel_1771

    Shooting himself in the chest is odd. Did he want to leave a pretty corpse? If he shot himself while inside a sleeping bag, I’d say he was making an effort to contain the visual trauma for whoever discovered him.

  • Aussie Sabbath

    The scout motto is Be Prepared…

  • sativagrl

    Brain spatter sounds better though

  • http://batman-news.com Stanley_Ipkiss

    I hear what your saying but when I think back to it, it wasnt actually that bad. It was just my teenage brain telling me that popularity and all that bullshit is the most important thing in the world. In fairness though I was never bullied or anything like that, I wouldnt let that fly.

  • http://batman-news.com Stanley_Ipkiss

    Lol I for one am glad we dont have to wait that long to make decisions. That would mean your kids have to stay at home until they are 25. I love my children very very much but when they are 25 they better have their own lives.

  • Jessie

    Yes, but I think that ALL suicides, regardless of their age- have only one selfish intention. This kind of shit happens all the time and I think they are all dick heads, of all ages. None of them care/think about the long term affects on their friends and family or they wouldn’t do it in the first place. Involving innocent bystanders just makes you that much more of a spiteful and selfish prick. And YES, I understand that they are all mentally ill- before anyone jumps my shit…

  • Jessie

    I couldn’t agree with you more. Humans are the SLOWEST of all species on the planet to seperate from their offspring. I sit next to a 28 year old moron here at work who still lives at home with her parents (and also doesn’t know how to swim). GET OUT.

  • http://batman-news.com Stanley_Ipkiss

    Lol that is quite pathetic, I am 29 and really feel like my shits together and has been for some years now. Lots of people I went to school with still live at home and are jobless. These people actually finished school unlike me and I am the one with the half decent job and big beautiful house. They must be choosing to be bums because I see no other reason/excuse for it.

  • AD Fkin Ate

    Hey who am I to say whats right or wrong so he killed himself left a lot of people behind to grieve and maybe never move forward.. People who have this mindset will end it no matter what.. Some people would never know how it feels to wake up everyday and just hate everything about it knowing it wont change over night obviously its been 8 yrs almost haha no but in all fairness he did the responsible thing under those circumstances and allowed himself to stop breathing without harming others .. To be honest I feel bad for him nobody really knows what this kid was going through.. Do you remember what its like to be a 12 yr old boy times that by 100 its worse now with each generation…

  • Lori Lynn Abell

    I think at 12 he didn’t comprehend the fact that the other kids would be traumatized. Or his father either. I don’t believe a 12 yr old can grasp the concept

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I’m 31 and went to school with a girl who still lives at home AND still doesn’t have her driver’s license.

    She was a year older than me, if I remember correctly. I adore her cuz she’s such a sweet person, but really, dude?

    I think my former BFF still lives at home, too… but that girl is VILE. I hope she lives at home forever. Wait, no. I don’t wish that upon her parents….

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Nope.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I have a 12 year old child, and let me tell you, it’s NOTHING like when we were 12. There are some 7th graders out there really testin’ my gangsta.

  • AD Fkin Ate

    Oh I hear awful stories from my nease who is only 10 and unfortunately i been to eat lunch with her on occasion and I have witnessed some bad behavior but what really worried me was out of the 19 students in her class 2 whites including her and she gets picked on alot..

  • AD Fkin Ate

    Don’t feel bad I watched one of my best buddies in high school get sucked down one of those suctions in water where the currents is they are filled with them at high co lake

  • Dirk

    SPOILER

  • McDanel_1771

    Wait, the boy’s father was along, and that’s a big tent that the yellow tarp is in front of, why would you intrude on the scouting experience by coming along and sleeping with your son. Kind of gets in the way of meeting friends and talking with your dad right there…oh.

  • Jason Wolf

    There is no merit badge for suicide!!!!

  • http://www.dictionary.com/ Ruby Red

    hes a child! its a dick-head move judging him like you know him! rip little boy,

  • Bess12

    i hope i didnt know him. my friend online commited suicide today too. i need 2 know this dude’s name.