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Austin WisemanCINCINNATI, OH  - Two half-brothers were found dead after police say a 12-year-old boy fatally shot his 9-year-old half brother before turning the gun on himself.

The boys were found on Wednesday inside their grandparents’ home where they lived. In an upstairs bedroom, investigators say 12-year-old Austin Wiseman shot and killed his 9-year-old half-brother, Blake Campbell, before he killed himself with the same gun.

Investigators will now try to determine if this was a murder-suicide, a suicide pact or an accidental shooting followed by suicide. I’m going with the latter.

“There was no sign of a struggle,” Jackson County Coroner Dr. Gregory Hawker said. “The younger boy was just sitting in a children’s chair, sitting there like he was watching TV.”

Only two shots were fired from a .44-caliber handgun that belonged to the boys’ grandfather, Police Chief Carl Eisnaugle said Friday. The grandparents were not home at the time of the shootings, having left earlier to take care of some personal business.

Investigators have taken Wiseman’s computer in hopes that it contains clues to what might have led up to the shootings, but Eisnaugle said there’s the possibility that there may never be an explanation.

“Whether or not it’s an accident would be extremely hard to determine,” Eisnaugle said. “I don’t know if we’ll ever know.”

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  • http://www.facebook.com/MrsMelissaOrtiz Melissa Ortiz

    I read another article that mentioned an uncle being there. He didn’t want to comment which kinda had me leery. Maybe I’m wrong.

  • CT

    This just plain ole sucks.

  • EBenes

    This breaks my heart. Looking at the picture I couldn’t help but think possibly this boy was being bullied and wanted to kill himself, but either didn’t want to hurt his brother by leaving him alone or didn’t want to go to “the next life” without him. Sad all around.

  • http://www.facebook.com/missgts Cassinique Cunningham

    weird,..and he was so young…why did he just kill himself and his brother? were they being abused?

  • James Sumner Leese

    I don’t think we’ll ever know what happened in this case, but the only decent thing you can assume is accident then suicide.

  • https://www.facebook.com/jana.joneslove Jana

    I am hoping accident then suicide!!! This breaks my heart

  • Parrot Toes

    This one is just plain sad and leaves me with no smart ass comment. Poor little guys. I also wonder if they are related to someone I know very, very well. I wonder if all Wisemans in the US are related to each other. I know the Wisemans in Canada tend to be a separate line, but I wonder about them Mericans…..

  • Simpalee Catastrophic

    :(

  • http://www.facebook.com/kim.wall.370 Kim Wall

    something is wrong with this picture a little 9 year old killing his brother then himself this needs to really investigated

  • itsknotme

    Very sad. This happened too soon and long before any lucky girl could come along and break either one of their hearts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/esther.molina.94 Esther Molina

    I read your posts every dAy… Some sick… some funny ….some sad..BUT this is TRAGIC beyond words .. Prayers for the parents

  • http://www.facebook.com/kaleekajune Kalee Kajune

    All I can think is what a complete bitch you are. Jesus.

  • sugarpie

    I got nothing but greif for these two :(

  • Parrot Toes

    Since no one else has said it, I will. How did the kid get access to the gun(s) in the first place? Should it/they not have been safely locked away from little hands? I realize there is going to be grieving adults here, but I sure hope someone pays for their irresponsibility.

  • Buffettgirl

    I’d guess this effectively killed his grandparents too – at least their spirits at any rate. Very, very sad…

  • http://www.facebook.com/cheri.calhoun.1 Cheri Calhoun

    The older one shot the younger one accidentally and then killed himself, and it happened in Jackson, ohio.

  • Gee

    Very much avoidable had the kids not had access to a gun

  • newstarshipsmell

    Look on the bright side:

    Jackson County Coroner Dr. Gregory Hawker said investigators don’t know whether the shootings in Jackson in southern Ohio were a murder-suicide, a suicide pact or an accidental shooting followed by suicide. Authorities say each boy had a single gunshot wound to the head.

    At least he made sure neither of them could possibly reanimate.

  • Kelly

    I read that these boys were very close and the older boy was very protective of him. It’s just unbelievably sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MrsKellbell143 Kelly Lockhart Wright

    A lot of younger kids don’t understand the concept of death. You seriously need to go back to school and I hope you don’t have kids yourself!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kaleekajune Kalee Kajune

    My kids aren’t stupid. Neither are hers….Simply because they don’t understand death or might be in denial you insensitive moron.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kaleekajune Kalee Kajune

    And really? You couldn’t be a grown woman and leave it between me and you? You really like calling kids names, huh? I feel for yours. :(
    Wonder how you treat your own kids.

  • G.I.R.L.

    A 9y.o. wanting or even fathoming suicide? He just stepped out of the diaper so I think not. This seems like either a murder-suicide or accident-suicide.

  • TheyCallMePathological

    Hey, are you fucking kidding me, 9 years old is not just stepping out of his diapers! My brother was killed when he was 9 by a friend who was the same damn age, with a gun they found in the boy’s father’s nightstand, when they were LEFT ALONE for an HOUR!

  • rpgmomma8404

    Sad :-(

  • rpgmomma8404

    I was a depress 9 year old and I thought about it. So, it is possible for a child that age to think about it.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid
  • mean birch

    I also have grief.

  • G.I.R.L.

    Keep your misplaced emotions in check, firstly. Secondly, what you are sharing seems like an accidental shooting; two untrained children, left alone and playing with a gun: the outcome is unfortunate but less than surprising.

  • G.I.R.L.

    Are you sure you were depressed or did you just live around shitty people?

  • G.I.R.L.

    Ok ok; kids are fucking psychotic, entitled, yearning for a quick death pieces of shit just like their adult conterparts. I never felt any of this as a kid; @ 9y.o. is when all of the physical/verbal attacking began in my life (and I was growing up in the inner city) and I definitely can’t relate because murder and/or suicide never crossed my mind (neither was I depressed; just confused as to why I was being attacked and annoyed with it). Some people are natural born pussies :-(

  • Pyncky

    Why were they living with the grandparents? Is Mom or Dad not in the picture?

    Imagine coming home from some personal business and finding both of them dead. Sucks.

  • Parrot Toes

    I think the point isn’t that ALL kids are “fucking psychotic, entitled, yearning for a quick death pieces of shit just like their adult conterparts”, it’s that it can happen. With 9 year olds, not as much as with teens, but it can still happen. I was one of those kids. As far back as I can remember, I always felt different and sad all the time. I truly believed no one loved me. I used to cry about it all the time and asked my parents, my aunt, my friends parents, etc. if they thought my parents loved me. I never believed them. I remember being in kindergarten and feeling hopeless and worthless. I always felt that way. I did want to die and I thought about it all the time. It took a traumatic experience at 13 for me to start the attempts. I was diagnosed as a major depressive as an adult, among other things, which can’t really be done for a 9 year old. Many mental illnesses, which depression is, can’t be diagnosed in kids. That certainly doesn’t mean it can’t happen though.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    Without Grandpa not spending a few dollars on a trigger lock, or a gun safe, this couldn’t have happened. Be responsible with the firearms, folks, or don’t buy them.
    RIP guys.

  • rpgmomma8404

    Both, I still battle with depression. I’ve been on so many different anti-depressants. It’s unreal.

  • G.I.R.L.

    No, a “natural born pussy” isn’t some one who knows how to cry; I had my share of tears, being exiled, having no one to talk to, being homeless, attacked, discriminated against, the whole 9 yards. A natural born pussy is some one who takes their own life as well as another’s because they decide to play the victim of life card instead of surviving and eventually living.

  • BrittBrittRoss

    A little off subject: Why does the media always have to use that ugly term- Half-Brother or Half-sister? Some of my siblings & I don’t have the same dad, but we all came from mom and we were not taught to refer to each other that way…

  • restlessvagabond

    I want to say this is an accident followed by a suicide….

    But when we were younger I pissed off my little brother bad enough that he pulled a shotgun on me in the heat of the moment, so its kind of hard to tell.

  • restlessvagabond

    Because if they don’t use the technical term someone will bitch about it.

  • FrikkenFrak

    Let me see if I’m understanding you correctly. You had adversity in your life at a young age and because it didn’t cause YOU to have depression, you believe that anyone in a similar situation who DOES responds differently than you did is a pussy? Did I get that right?

  • HomeGunTraining

    That really sucks. Safe storage of guns is critical.

    As an instructor, I have often found that the most dangerous gun handling and practices come from guys who have been informally shooting for a long time and good fortune has reinforced their bad habits.

  • Melissa Stopka

    If this was in fact an accidental shooting/suicide, it pains me to know that boy felt so much grief for what he had done that he didn’t even hesitate, he just pulled the trigger on himself.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Yup. Sure did.

  • Aussie Sabbath

    Half-siblings + Mum and Dad not in the picture, hence why the boys are living with the grandparents = some bigger issues than maybe an accidental shooting then suicide.
    I really hope that it was the fact that the older boy felt so much guilt and grief after he accidentally shot his little bro, that he couldn’t face life without him. I hope it’s not that the boys thought life was so unbearable and not worth living that the only way they thought they could find peace was through a murder-suicide. No young child should ever feel that way.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    I know quite a few people who started attempting suicide at a very young age because they were physically and/or sexually abused, and death seemed like a better option than the pain and violation they were experiencing.

  • G.I.R.L.

    Good, I don’t fault them.

  • G.I.R.L.

    There is a justification for murder/suicide now? Give me a break. Life’s gonna give you shit, don’t be a pussy about it; that’s my point.

  • G.I.R.L.

    Not exactly; and I’m sure that question was for me, darling. ;-)

  • FrikkenFrak

    There are NO facts here on the WHY. It could have been a suicide pact.

    Cold-blooded murder is one thing. And while I’m no Athena with her marvelous ability to research, I’d wager that 100% of those who commit suicide are troubled, mentally ill or deeply depressed. At least, I’ve never heard of a person who committed suicide because they just wanted to know how the experience felt.

    Now, if you call people who commit suicide pussies, I have zero respect for you or anyone who doesn’t understand, have compassion for, or trivializes mental illness or the anguish of others and how they respond to it.

    This isn’t a DD story about a pedophile or bath-salter. UNTIL there’s reason to believe it was murder, I’m not going to tear apart this kid.

    If you went through child hood trauma and came out unscathed, I’m glad for you. And you should be too. Because you’re in the minority. In case you hadn’t noticed, many people who post here have. Making it out undamaged by trauma depends on many factors. Few are as lucky as you.

    By the way…your comment reminds me of how people respond to stories about bullying. Kids should just “toughen up”, right?

  • http://www.krashthrills.wordpress.com/ Anthony Mandich

    I heard that gramps was feeding the young one the summer sausage while he made the hefty kid tongue dart his dark star.

  • Blue Ming Seiko

    Gods. This is tragic.

  • Blue Ming Seiko

    I hear you. I was bullied a lot. I did think about suicide sometimes at that age, although it was ideation, not actual planning.

  • Blue Ming Seiko

    Being depressed does not make a person a “natural born pussy.” Nor does being suicidal. It’s crap attitudes like this that keep mental health treatment in the dark ages. Congratulations on being an asshat.

  • G.I.R.L.

    There is no luck involved. Bullying exists; suicide isn’t the answer,standing up for yourself is. You’re ginna allow someone else to have that much control over you; so much control that you pretend to have the ultimate form of control over your own life by ending it?

    There are no excuses. We go through shit, people will despise us for no reason, we will hit brick walls, have no one to turn to; no one can progress if they continue to play the victim. My definition of pussy is someone who takes their own lives AS WELL AS anothers.

  • Blue Ming Seiko

    Some people have better coping skills than others. Some people don’t have fucked neurotransmitters, as happens with depression, bipolar disorder, and other mental health disorders. Congratulations, you are one of the strong ones. That doesn’t make people who aren’t able to cope as well “weak.” It just makes them not able to cope as well.

  • G.I.R.L.

    I couldn’t care less about how my opinion makes you feel, honeybun. There is never a justification for a murder/suicide; you’re a pussy for ending someone else’s life just because your life is shit; what gives you the right?

  • onlyme356

    I have a theory. I think that with some people that want to kill themselves, they are afraid they won’t do it correctly or want to make sure there is no suffering. They kill someone first to see what that person goes through to get an idea of whether or not there will be any suffering. Once its been determined that it’s a quick and painless death, they turn the gun onto themselves. It also ensures that they don’t back out of it. I know some cowards still do, but I think their reasoning is that it pressures them to get it over with. Then there are those who really believe the other person will suffer too much or be unable to cope with their loss so they take them out first.

  • Parrot Toes

    o.O Do you draw this from experience?

  • Parrot Toes

    To the d-v’ers on this comment…..WTF? Comprehension issues?

  • Parrot Toes

    I think it’s just a descriptive term. I don’t believe it is meant as an offense either. My kids have a half-brother. Sometimes, he is referred to as their half-brother, and other times, just as their brother. It just depends on the conversation and who with really.

  • nomorepolitix

    For the love of fucking gods: LOCK UP YOUR FUCKING GUNS YOU IDIOTS!!! There. I feel better.

  • FrikkenFrak

    You know what? I’ve NEVER gone full throttle against another person on DD. But right now, I don’t give a fuck. And I’m going to say this even though I know there isn’t a chance in a MILLION it will sink in.

    Here’s what I KNOW> The cool fucking thing about most humanity is that when they’ve endured trauma it instills in them the capacity for EMPATHY. You know, that emotion that separates us from insects? That ability to step outside our selfish selves and imagine how other people feel?

    So, the most HUMANE of humans I know/have met who’ve been through trauma DON’T pat themselves on the back for the way they dealt with it while simultaneously SLANDERING and judging those who’s outcome was different. Most HUMANE people would say something like “Oh shit. Man, I understand. How sad (it was worse than my trauma, they didn’t have the support system to handle it, etc) to endure it.. THEY DON’T belittle them.

    I don’t know you. And, for the record, it’s the last time I’ll acknowledge you here. But what I DO know is that any person who lived through a bona fide, REAL trauma doesn’t just brush it off their shoulders and soldier on. Anyone who says that is in denial or a fucking liar. That’s so basic in psychology it doesn’t even fit into 101.

    You go through trauma and say it never effected you is either a way to cope or outright denial. It effects you…..unless you’re a sociopath or a rock. And there are a thousand ways in which you either live through it or don’t. But those who live through it DO NOT come out unaffected. It effects you. And if you say you have and it didn’t, then your a lair and in denial. REAL trauma only has a healthy outcome with REAL WORK. Processing, feeling, accepting, assimilating. And that’s for the lucky ones. And I’ve yet, in my many, many years to met a person who successfully conquered their trauma that haven’t didn’t develop a deep sense of empathy for others who’d been through what they had.

    As for you personally, I could care LESS how you handled yourself after trauma. What I care vehemently about is someone who postulates a sense of superiority that they did and others didn’t.

    No. I’m sorry. But from my totally unprofessional chair, I say BULLSHIT. Either you DID NOT have real trauma or they way you’ve been able to deal with it is by shutting it down and away. Or maybe you’re just a kid and real loss hasn’t come your way yet.

    No matter WHAT your situation was, the fact that you sit here saying you’ve been through trauma, came out unscathed and slam those who didn’t handle it the way you did tells me either 1. You didn’t have any “real” trauma or 2. You’re in denial about its effects or 3. You’ve got something inherently wrong with your psyche that makes you incapable of putting yourself into the shoes of others or having empathy.

    But, don’t argue with ME about this. I have a better idea. Give me your contact info I’ll have some people call you. Family of someone who committed suicide.

    You can tell THEM that this brave, strong man who worked every day of his adult life putting his life on the line to protect others was a pussy. Tell them that he was a pussy when his wife of 24 years died of ovarian cancer. Tell them he was a pussy when his only child died shortly after in an accident. Tell THEM he was a pussy for not being able to handle the anguish, loss and pain of loosing his family and couldn’t take the pain anymore.

    You go ahead. Tell them he’s a pussy.

    You’re either heartless, a kid, or completely dead inside if you’ve lived through devastating trauma and came through in such a way that you feel entitled to judge others for not being able to bare the pain.

  • Shade

    You hit a lot of nails right on the head, IMO. Judging by other posts on other stories, he/she is very, very hard, and harsh, very black and white, very lacking in empathy or even the ability to consider the “other side of the coin.” I think no further acknowledgment is a good idea, unless and until you can take it with a grain of salt and not get your blood pressure all up in the clouds! lol

  • G.I.R.L.

    Spare me the over-investment of emotions + the sob story.

    Firstly, regarding the actual article, my “harsh” words are a result of the very real possibility of murder-suicide; not accident-suicide or suicide-suicide (which is evident in my numerous posts).

    Secondly, I couldn’t care any less than what I do if my opinions, through text mind you, come across as lacking any emotion (why should it? This isn’t a national tragedy and and I have no connection with either child). It’s unfortunate that their lives were ended short, but my life moves on; excuse me if I don’t pretend to be lugubrious.

    Thirdly, there is NEVER a justification for murder-suicide; if you want to die, then off yourself; don’t take another with you; you’re a pussy if you do, end of story.

    I never said my past dilemmas didn’t affect me; I said that it didn’t influence me to want to kill others or myself nor did it make me depressed. I get it, most people on the internet apply whatever they want instead of reading a comment for what it actually is.

    At the end of the day, my opinion does not infringe on your world; so cease with the incessant dragging on. I never claimed to be better than anyone; that’s something you and others are adding yourself (one of you even insulted me directly; talk about being way too invested in an issue that doesn’t concern you).

    There is no need for you to feel sorry about a thing (unless you prefer that); I’m me, sharing what I believe and/or what I know as a result of empirics and not directly to anyone. Live with it.

    Cheers,

    Goddess In Real Life

  • G.I.R.L.

    Yeah, all my mother’s children are half-siblings; surprised me as until Feb2012 she had me believe my brother’s father was my own when the physical similarities we shared were laughably nonexistent. She finally admitted to me who my father was; he, like my sister’s father initially, has no idea that I even exist. This is one of my issues with single moms: she claims that all men are losers when she not only chose to have sex with them, but also have their babies and neglect to tell them. In my father’s case, she took his virginity; funny thing is she bumped into him once in 2007 (he’s an officer and a husband now) and STILL neglected to mention to him that he had a fucking child she kept hidden from him so her parents wouldn’t think her to be a slut (which she was/is; she truly only admired the negative aspects of her father and portrayed them to a T).

  • G.I.R.L.

    Why couldn’t you respond to me? You make the most sense.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    No, really? I hadn’t realized that. Thank you so much for informing me, DARLING.

  • G.I.R.L.

    My pleasure.

  • Humanist99

    I was depressed & suicidal (even attempted) by age 10 and ended up in the adolescent psych ward at the hospital at that age. So I definitely believe a 9yo can be suicidal.

  • Humanist99

    I feel ya. Sorry to hear that. I’ve dealt with the same and have even had 14 E.C.T. treatments bc nothing has helped- even still.

  • Humanist99

    I have to disagree with being “natural born pussies”. I think many of us who suffer with depression or other disorders are often the people with the most “fight” in them. Not everyone grows up with the same ‘resilience’ whether it’s chemical, environmental, or both. It definitely doesn’t have anything to do with being a ‘pussy’ though.

  • Humanist99

    Totally agree with you Parrot Toes! Though I did get diagnosed and even put on Prozac when I was 10 (not good!), our stories sound very similar. I’ve had countless diagnoses since then and am still f*cked up. My 10yo self didn’t know what ‘suicide’ was. All I knew is that I didn’t want to live, wanted to die, felt the world and family would be better off without me, felt dying would be my only relief from the torment and despair I was feeling.

  • Humanist99

    I’m honestly curious how you feel about euthanasia & assisted-suicide?
    (Not in relation to this case either, just in general)

  • Humanist99

    Does a .44 caliber not have much ‘kickback’/recoil? I’m somewhat surprised the kid would manage to knock em both out with 1 bullet each…

  • Humanist99

    So have you had any contact with him/tried to inform him he does have a child (you)?

  • Parrot Toes

    My earliest memories go back to when I was 3, which I know is kind of unusual, as most peoples’ begin around 5ish. When I was about 2, I was nearly drowned by a babysitter at a pool. If my mom hadn’t come home early, the sitters attempt to teach me to swim may have resulted in my learning to float – lifelessly. I was terrified of water, even in a shallow baby tub, for a long time after that. I don’t remember the incident, but I do remember the fear of the water. I still have anxiety issues with it. Any way, I don’t know if that incident was what set me up for my lifetime of feeling miserable and worthless, or if it’s something I was just handed down. There is a lot of mental illness issues, most going undiagnosed, on my dads side. Both his dad and his twin sister committed suicide, granted it was later in their lives, but the depression was obviously there. There was a lot of dysfunction and criminal behaviour, as well as dependance on alcohol throughout his family. I figure my issues are a good combination of both things – genetics and shit-luck in life.

  • Humanist99

    The first part of your comment is an interesting theory- definitely worth considering.

    I do agree with this part of your comment… among a variety of other murder-suicide scenarios.
    “It also ensures that they don’t back out of it. I know some cowards
    still do, but I think their reasoning is that it pressures them to get
    it over with. Then there are those who really believe the other person
    will suffer too much or be unable to cope with their loss so they take
    them out first.”

  • G.I.R.L.

    I agree. I was gonna kill myself a week ago. Talk about calling the pot black. Again, myself; I wasn’t gonna take another with me. And why would I? So I have to split the peace cake? Get out!

  • G.I.R.L.

    As long as the child realizes that the mother can’t provide for it and that she was most likely drunk and would be a shitty parent, then I’m all for the a-word.

  • G.I.R.L.

    Not yet. I mean, other than being straightforward, what do you say to the guy? I’ll admit, I’m terrified. And don’t feel I have anything to show yet that would make him proud.

  • Humanist99

    I guess I was more or less wondering your view on assisted-suicide when there is illness involved? Not killing someone bc you think they’d be a ‘shitty parent’. lol

  • Humanist99

    Yeah… that would be awkward to say the least. As far as ‘making him proud’- I would think that most good, caring parents would be ‘proud’ simply because that’s THEIR kid, their offspring.. Or maybe that’s just how I wish the world worked :/

    Maybe you’re idealizing him and his life in comparison to life with your mom? Meaning although it seems he has a lot going for him he can’t be perfect. I’m sure there are things he isn’t proud of either.

  • G.I.R.L.

    LOL i knew what you meant. It reminds me of the mother who’s sons pleaded with her to end their physical deterioration and suffering by killing them. Their pain, though awesomely severe, will never match the mother’s pain as she killed them both. That, I understand and, shockingly, am not thoroughly against.

    There is an actual, tangible, debilitating reason why one would ask another to end their suffering. That isn’t equal with the suicide where one would rather not deal with the shit that almost everyone goes through. Just like killing and murdering aren’t necessarily equal.

  • Humanist99

    Ok, Thank You because I now have more clarity on where you stand

  • http://hawtmamas.wordpress.com/ hawtmamma

    poor kid never had a chage with those bad geetics. once she had enough goodes saved up, fuck h for rabbit, and rube boy .Additionally a hit fren for her sone and ex-hubsant.I was once deployed in Panama where Manuel Noriega chose his semen rece[ical…just at the point of his each shattering, his eyes rolled into the back of his head., frighting his thugs would ask him
    bien HEFFE! At whid point of hsi testicles swoll up and his sphinter muscle was gushing and the fortunale girl redeived two (2). 45 caliber .45 slugs simulataneouly though their swwe temple! It was purported that Noriaga has to be revived do to an orgasmic synapse

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    For starters, I think that this was a typo concerning the caliber of the weapon. A .44 caliber is a percussive black powder round. There are black powder revolvers, but they are relatively rare antique weapons. A .44 percussive probably would have wrenched the child-shooter’s arm out of the socket. My .50 caliber Sharps long rifle isn’t called a “thunder stick” for nothing.

    If it was a .45 caliber handgun, the kickback from it probably would have jerked the kid’s wrist, elbow, and shoulder all over the place. Especially in the event of a “surprise” discharge.

  • Humanist99

    That’s what I figured! Something doesn’t make sense. A .22 or .25 might be more reasonable as far as recoil, but not as ‘damaging’, right?