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hot carPALMETTO, FL – A three-year-old boy died Saturday after basically cooking to death in the car he had been left in while his parents attended a funeral.

Robert Anderson, 29, and Amanda Jo Anderson, 30, took two cars to drop their three children off with a babysitter so they could attend a funeral. Their 4 and 5-year-old were in one of the vehicles, and 3-year-old Kyrese Anderson was in the other.

After dropping off the kids, the pair drove to the funeral in one vehicle, leaving one of them behind – the one that still contained Kyrese. It wasn’t until they returned from the funeral a few hours later and asked about Kyrese that they realized what had happened.

“They get back from the funeral several hours later,” said Dave Bristow with the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office, “and they ask where the 3-year-old was, and the babysitter said, ‘I thought he was with you?'”

The couple ran to the car that had been sweltering in front of the babysitter’s house for a few hours and found Kyrese inside. The boy was rushed to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. An autopsy will be performed to determine the exact cause of Kyrese’s death (hint: it was horrible) and no charges have been filed at this time.

“You have to take all the precautions to never leave a child, and I know that these people knew that,” Bristow says about Kyrese Anderson’s family. “There’s no question they knew it and, again, it was just a very unusual, strange set of circumstances that led to this tragedy.”

I have been writing stories regarding children left to die in hot cars for the last ten years, and I cannot recollect one in which I understood how in the hell it could have happened. As a parent, I just cannot fathom forgetting my kid anywhere, especially a car. I get that Kyrese’s death was an accident, but anyone want to guess if Kyrese’s mother forgot her purse before heading to the funeral?

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  • https://www.facebook.com/jana.joneslove Jana

    Poor baby!!!!

  • newstarshipsmell

    Gene Pool.

    You’re cleaning it right!

  • sugarpie

    I don’t know what people are like in Florida, but it’s common practice here to kiss your babies and tell them goodbye when leaving them off at the sitters. As a mom, I just can’t see this happening. The 3 year old would have needed the most attention when dropping off at the sitter. How do you just not realize you didn’t take him in. Poor little guy. :(

  • Rachel Ann

    Maybe she should have put her purse in the backseat then she would have remembered to look back there I mean coz let’s face it who doesn’t remember to grab their purse. The kid? Eh whatever. /sarcasm/
    There’s no fucking excuse for this shit to keep happening. How self absorbed can you be that you fuckin forget that the baby is in the car with you? My kid is almost 5 and never have I ever gotten so overwhelmed have I forgot about him in anyway. Fuck as a mother that’s your first and last responsibility the well bein of your child NO MATTER WHAT! Now they are having to attend another funeral becoz of their reckless actions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TeresaVellucciBonlak Teresa Vellucci Bonlak

    She should have kept her purse with the youngest child. Yesterday here is NC a woman called 911 because she thought someone kidnapped her 8 yr old from her car infront of Bojangles. The police were in a panic trying to find him. It ended up she forgot him at the furniture store she was at before she went to Bojangles.

  • Rachel Ann

    TARSH! Dafuq did you change your avatar into baby IT for? I’d p you in the f if I could lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.giordano.311 Anthony Giordano

    Isn’t it ironic; don’t you think?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.dzencelowcz Joseph Dzencelowcz

    Death at a funeral…not cool…

  • Maleka Giovinco

    i’m with you Rachel. you got this gigantic car seat with a child in it! there’s no way you can miss that. like you said….self absorbed.

  • Sam

    Sooo, they pre-arranged a babysitter for the kids so they could attend the funeral. Yes, why did the parents not realise they forgot to drop one off, but also – wouldn’t the babysitter have been expecting another child? Did she not think to ask where number 3 was?

  • newstarshipsmell

    My f is fragile, please don’t p it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jillian.c.taylor Jillian Chandler Taylor

    I read so many of these stories and they’ve made me so paranoid about forgetting my kids that I check the back seats even when I know they aren’t with me!

  • http://www.facebook.com/honey.2320 Felicia Driscoll

    Smh……

  • Texas Ranger

    I bet 100 bucks that had either of them left their phone in the car, they would have remembered it. Forget a baby…no prob…cell phone…How will I function in the world!?! I cant be reached 24/7! I can’t play my game! I cant read DD on the road! Cripes folks, it takes 9-10 months to make a kid, frickin Verizon gives phones out free. Priorities. Get some.

  • Curlykate910

    As a parent, thoughts of your children and their safety or where they are constantly pop into your head. Especially when they’re not with you. Did I send Johny’s medicine? I hope the babysitter remebers Susan is allergic to peanuts. I forgot to put the sunblock in the bag. I hope they don’t get burned…
    I can’t believe NOT handing the baby over didn’t cross either of their minds as they were away from the kids. How sad for all parties involved.

  • Jessie Heavin

    That’s what happens when you have too many children. If you have more than two, you cannot be the best parent you can be. You are totally outnumbered.

  • Curlykate910

    That’s one loooong gestation! ;)

  • newstarshipsmell

    I wonder if they’ll use the same sitter for the 3yo’s funeral? That would be awkward, I would think.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I’m so fucking sick of people defending this shit. I am far and away the most scatterbrained fucking person I know, and NOT ONCE have I forgotten either of my children in a car and they are 11 and 2. Besides, those little shits never give you peace for five fucking seconds. how the hell is it even POSSIBLE to forget one of them in the car? I turn the car off and the preteen is bolting out the door and the toddler is screaming his head off to get out.

  • Scott McAllister

    florida has to have the top rank for stories on this website

  • Athena

    Provocative. I like it. :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/adam.dowling.7 Adam Dowling

    As Bart Simpson said, “The ironing is delicious!”

  • MommysLosingIt

    That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. what about all the only children you read about whose parents are too distracted with work or their agendas to remember them. what about that guy whose baby kept setting off the motion sensor alarm in his car while he was in his office and he kept walking over to his window and turning off the alarm with the key fob until hours later, when he realized he forgot to drop the only child he had of at daycare?

  • Pyncky

    Anyone want to bet on how long their marriage lasts after this. Whoever was driving the car with the 3 year old in it and forgot them. I would not want that guilt. Karma is a bitch and she wears spiked high-heels.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Is it wrong that I want to color in the picture, with scarlet for the skin color?

  • Evan

    you shouldn’t have more than 2 kids because it over populates the earth. just replace yourself (yourselves) in the gene pool. global over population makes climate change look like a wrinkle on the biggest and ugliest ass in the world.

  • http://www.truecrimereport.com CallMeMister

    “I don’t know what people are like in Florida”

    Simple answer: bat shit fuckin’ cray-cray.

  • itsknotme

    I know it’s weird to think of buying a house that someone has died in, but does the same reasoning apply to buying a car?

  • http://www.facebook.com/brett.gloss Alan Isntevenmyname Gloss

    My dog snuck into an open door as we were unloading groceries. We noticed him missing about an hour later. He looked rough, but thankfully still alive. I don’t wish that type of death on my worst enemy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/spitefulscorpio Kristin Short

    What’s one of the worst states to do this in? Florida. And yet, I swear, I hear a story about it happening here once a week for the entire summer. I’m so paranoid now with my kids, I check 2, 3, 4 times to make sure I have them all with me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/neserit Hedwig-Mae Bryant

    It’s made me so paranoid that I check the backseats for kids I don’t even have!

  • darsa

    Exactly my thought. Who drops their own kids off and forgets about them before they even leave?? My daughter would never have forgiven me if I left without a hug n kiss.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sandra.sedillo.1 Sandra Sedillo

    How do you forget your kids?

  • Amanda

    I feel like such an asshole for the snicker that just escaped while reading this. I can’t stop laughing because yes, that would be awkward. But at least they know where the third kid is this time around. Amirite? Too soon?

  • http://www.facebook.com/el.maat.73 El Maat

    Florida …AGAIN? smh

  • Jessie Heavin

    Well that’s because he is a man. Duh.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Strictly speaking, not necessarily the case. If you take out someone else’s kids, it balances out in the end.

  • Jessie Heavin

    Amen Evan!

  • Lakme Hesse

    Granted, I only have one child and am 8 months pregnant with my 2nd. But, I ALWAYS double check the back even when I am sure he is not with me to make doubly sure. I can’t imagine forgetting my child or children. That being said, that poor poor baby. :-(

  • Lakme Hesse

    LOL You are so right about that! (toddlers screaming their heads of to get out)

  • Ruebene

    There are several questions here. Why did they need two cars to take three kids? Both parents were at the babysitter’s and they BOTH forgot the baby? The older kids never mentioned the baby at any time? As someone else commented here, the babysitter was expecting three kids and never asked about the baby? The parents never called the babysitter to check on how the kids were? Funerals can be upsetting and perhaps distracting, but this is just really bizarre considering how many people were involved and nobody thought of this child.

  • come_and_see

    Mistakes are rarely caused by just 1 thing. It’s usually a series of small mistakes and oversights that pile up and eventually you get a catastrophe.

  • newstarshipsmell

    LMOA!

  • Ruebene

    That’s exactly what happened.

  • Buffettgirl

    Nah, not too soon at all… ;-)

  • sugarpie

    Yes, but now we have to worry about one of the other two.

  • Buffettgirl

    Love your d-v… people have said worse on this thread alone, yet you get the stalker love??? I’m totally jealous over here! ;-)

  • Buffettgirl

    I should go and kiss/hug my mother… Four kids in four years and one month, divorced a couple of years after baby number four (that’s me) came along and yet here we all still are, walking this earth without ever having been left accidentally behind in a boiling hot car… And shit! We lived in Africa for a couple of years, that Africa sun gets H-O-T!!! Suddenly I want to buy her an ice cream cone and throw her a parade…

  • shopaholic

    I’m so going to hell for laughing at that, right?

  • newstarshipsmell
  • newstarshipsmell

    Join the club. D’D readers qualify for a discount.

  • VenusDoom3

    Yeah, Exactly.

  • http://oddlyunfocused.blogspot.com/ Eccentric_Lady

    Isn’t that suppose to be LMAO? Or are you really Laughing My Off Ass?

  • http://www.facebook.com/echosinthenight1212 Mary Bski

    omg

  • ShelbySP

    DO IT! PEEN HIM RIGHT IN HIS FARTER!

  • Parrot Toes

    I have four kids. Do you know two kids I could take out? It’s eatin’ me up that I’ve messed up the Earth’s axis.

  • https://www.facebook.com/jana.joneslove Jana

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I feel terrible for laughing so hard..

  • newstarshipsmell

    That’s downright cruel, I have painful hemorrhoids.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Huh?

  • ~*V. von Schweetz*~

    I will never understand how people continue to do this. I bet they would have gone all over creation if they even thought they left their phones or something. How do you not notice that you have three kids yet you only dropped off 2??

  • http://www.facebook.com/keilstyle Kathleen Keil

    yeah right. 3 year olds are so quiet and all. easy to ‘forget’. bull shit. they can say what they want. they knew

  • rpgmomma8404

    I have and will never understand how people forget their kids like this. I’ve checked the back seat even if I know my son is at school because I am that freaking paranoid.

  • RedScarab

    Having children should be illegal.

  • brandi

    Shit, bet she had her purse, and her PHONE

  • RedScarab

    my grandfather once forgot me at a skating rink when I was an infant. He was dropping my dad’s younger siblings off and somehow forgot I wasn’t with him when he drove back home.

    He finally figured it out that night.

  • RedScarab

    But it’s not the heat…it’s the humidity…and the bath salts.

  • RedScarab

    Someone else who hates self absorbed cell phone users as much as I do.

  • RedScarab

    My parents wanted another child. Then they looked at their bills and thought better of it.

  • RedScarab

    So you think these bad parents should compound their mistake and have more kids?

  • RedScarab

    Oh you just totally jinxed yourself.

  • Texas Ranger

    I threw me little time in there for the actual MAKING of the baby…the more the better!

  • BrittBrittRoss

    OMFG, PEOPLE!!! How many children have to die before these asshole parents get it??!!?? How bout you make like the baby is your precious cell phone? You’d never forget that for long, would ya?

  • Jycorro

    You are safe. My wife and I have no children.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    Irony at its finest.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    The fact that your avi is an evil fucking clown makes this image even worse.

  • BrittBrittRoss

    YESSS!!!! Get that tattooed on the parents foreheads, after all, they have two other children, this might give them a chance!!!

  • BrittBrittRoss

    I had to down vote that….I just did.

  • BrittBrittRoss

    Speak for yourself…

  • lyssdexia

    You are SO wicked. smh. ;)

  • newstarshipsmell

    Thanks, I’ve been feeling left out on the downvote-front lately.

  • BrittBrittRoss

    Looking for a deal, Huh? lolol

  • WarriorArtemis

    Ok…I’m sorry but I hate this shit, this so could have been prevented…even by the sitter by simply going outside and checking shit out man. Sad poor baby :-(

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    In the early ’60’s, my grandparents pissed off a whole airport when they forgot to pick me up on New Year’s Eve. I had to fly alone from Leesburg, Florida to Albany, NY. I’d also been told not to talk to strangers(nobody said anything about rent-a-cops), so my 7-year-old carcass led the entire staff on a merry chase for several hours, then they had to track the G-parents down. (They had been attending an NYE party at the mayor of Schenectady, NY’s home.) That took a few more hours… Needless to say, airport security was ROYALLY pissed when they finally showed up. (Well after Midnight, with the airport shut gown for the night, I might add.)

  • midniteshadows

    I’m a horrible Mom. I forgot my son once, for all of about 2 minutes. It was the middle of an Arizona summer – 120+ degrees – coming home after grocery shopping. I took the car seat with him in it; placed him at the front door and went back for the groceries. Unlocked the front door and hauled the groceries in. Went and got a drink of water and then it hit – BAM!!!! I go tearing out of the house like my ass was on fire.

    There was my son just a cooing away. There are no words to describe the panic, hysteria, self-hatred, fear that happened in those 2 minutes. I just died inside.

    Spent the rest of the afternoon holding my son and crying. Never did put those groceries away.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nathan.thompson.9 Nathan Thompson

    Sad.

  • tinalovesnick

    I know! I forget what I am saying mid sentence and still have not left my 11yo 9yo or 19 mo kids in the

    What was I saying?

  • Eliza Berntsen

    See! It’s not like any long lasting effects were bestowed upon you as a result.

  • Digited

    I can only guess that the baby was sleeping and I feel bad for whichever one was driving that vehicle. When my daughter was an infant, she was sleeping in the backseat and I got 10 miles down the interstate on the way to work before I realized I forgot to stop at the sitter. I would never have left her in the car in the first place but that experience scared the shit right out of me.

  • Parrot Toes

    SHHHhhhhh! Don’t ruin my chance to balance nature while I indulge my homicidal wants. Man! Now I have to find a new good excuse.

  • Sam

    Pssht. Apparantly it’s a stalker without follow-through. :)

  • Wildheart

    You won’t be alone.

  • LuvsHorror

    There, another down vote. Better?

  • Curlykate910

    Whether he left the baby or she did, somehow it will still be his fault

  • Curlykate910

    This gets down votes, but the tombstone doesn’t? lol

  • http://oddlyunfocused.blogspot.com/ Eccentric_Lady

    Cheater – you fixed it. LOL

  • BrittBrittRoss

    Naw, that Bitch is fired!!!!

  • Leasha

    THEY DID NOT FORGET HIM!!! THIS WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT! YOU DON’T FUCKING “FORGET” YOU HAVE A FUCKING TODDLER WHILE HE BAKES TO DEATH IN A CAR, UNLESS YOU’RE FUCKED UP ON DRUGS, WHICH THEY CLEARLY WERE NOT! FIRST DEGREE MURDER! I’m SO sick of this shit. If you truly can’t “remember” you abandoned your WALKING TALKING 3 YEAR OLD in a car then you do NOT deserve to be and should NOT be a parent! NO charges filed, really?!!!!! FUCKING REALLY?!!!!!! Oh, it happened in Florida, no charges for homicidal parents, what a fucking shock. These cases always end with a slap on the wrist. What a great way to permanently rid yourself of a child you clearly don’t give a fuck about. “Oh, I totally forgot I had my own flesh and blood in the car, whoops!” Just an “accident” my fucking ass. So the bitch in Phoenix in May who left her baby in her car seat on top of a moving car gets charged with child endangerment (rightfully so) yet the billionth piece of shit “parents” like this get to walk free. Fuckin nice. SO glad the life of a child doesn’t mean fucking shit anymore.

  • http://www.facebook.com/percy.dinnie Percy Dinnie

    I’ve forgotten one of my kids before. Not for as long as this, I got the pram out and was stuffing around with my oldest one so much that I was pushing an empty pram through the entrance of a shop before I noticed. When you have toddlers and a sleep deprived from a newborn, your brain suffers. Needless to say it has never happened again.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Of course I did. I mean, wait, what are you talking about?

  • newstarshipsmell

    Yes! Downvotes are like candy to me.

  • MommysLosingIt

    I never said that. It’s not like these people were the Duggars. They had 3 kids. I have 3 kids. I don’t feel like any less of a parent or “outnumbered” because I’ve got one more child than I should’ve been allotted. That’s preposterous. There are shitty parents with one kid and incredible parents with a bunch.

  • Parrot Toes

    I actually want to up vote your comment, but I can’t do both, and since you want the downs, I’m downing all your comments on this thread. Now, for your getting’ down pleasure, I present you with some lyrics from the Backstreet Boys:

    Get down
    Get down
    And move it all around

    and this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdlokBMU2f4

  • mean birch

    Quit looking in my window

  • mean birch

    Oh damn that is f u n n y

  • mean birch

    With clowns?

  • misssmartypants

    Id be asking the weight of said babysitter. Cause the fucking car was parked in front of her home and she couldn’t or wouldn’t let the kids play with a fucking sprinkler outside… where she could have seen jr in the car…instead of parking her goddamn ass on the 3rd hand cat pissed lazy boy, feeding the kids top ramen so she could watch Maury in peace.

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    Wanna bet? **Snicker**

  • Aussie Sabbath

    So did their child come from Kyran? Is that why he’s named Kyrese?

  • Hellvetica

    She didn’t say goodbye to the baby before she left?

    Well, easy to tell who the favorites were in that family.

  • Dawn Elizabeth Padilla

    put them in a car n let them die same way u got 4 kids u better count heads…

  • Buffettgirl

    Only if it’s Tarsh… ;-)

  • FrikkenFrak

    FOR THE LOVE ALL GOD, READ THIS STORY….ANYONE WHO IS A PARENT!

    This will tell you why even GREAT parents make this mistake (the actually brain process that occurs). This is a Pulitzer Prize winning article. Several pages, but read.

    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-03-08/news/36840402_1_courtroom-tissue-class-trip

  • FrikkenFrak

    There are people who are shit and don’t care about their kids, but I don’t think that was what happened here.

    PLEASE…read this.

    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-03-08/news/36840402_1_courtroom-tissue-class-trip

  • FrikkenFrak

    And EVERY other crime web site.

  • Rebecca Garcia

    If this couple uses this babysitter regularly, wouldn’t the babysitter know to ASK about the additional child’s whereabouts? A casual: “Oh, your taking the youngest with you?” That simple question would have solved everything as they would have remembered the toddler. Poor baby, rest in peace <3

  • newstarshipsmell

    Aw damn, now I feel guilty and mean-spirited, and shit.

  • http://www.krashthrills.wordpress.com/ Anthony Mandich

    What a horrible story. I like to think that I have a pretty good idea about the intentions of people featured in the stories on this site. Its incredibly narcissistic and I could be wrong….. but I don’t get any sense of malice on the part of the parents in this case. I believe it was just a terrible oversight on an emotional day. My condolences to the family of Kyrese for such a tragic loss. I hope that they can get over this and continue their lives without succumbing to debilitating depression and apathy. They have a couple of more kids that need them more than ever.
    I will say a prayer for them right now.

  • Susan
  • sugarpie

    I’m not sayin these people are bad or meant to do harm to the little sweetheart. But they met at the sitters house to drop their children off. Can you seriously tell me that you understand how they could just so nonchalantly leave without looking to see what your kids are doing and tell them mommy and daddy won’t be long, I love you – yadda yadda yadda… And as said by others, the sitter doesn’t question why you only dropped off 2, when she was supposed to watch 3. Like maybe she would have asked where was the little guy and that would have triggered an “Oh my God, I left him in the car!”. And the story you linked, I wouldn’t expect anything less for how a parent should feel after killing your child this way. It may have been an accident, but it was an accident that was preventable. Their babies suffered an awful death at their expense.

  • MaricelaAlvrz

    Okay, did I read this right? There were two kids in one car and one in the other car. Uhh wouldn’t you think to drop off the precious cargo you were bringing to the babysitter?

  • BSmyth

    It’s simply people being self absorbed. It’s sad this baby died for their egos.

  • ultracreep

    It’s not the heat, it’s the stupidity….and the bath salts, and the inbreeding, and bathtub crank etc. etc.

  • Jan Jolley

    The child was only three so he very well could have still been rear-facing. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to check that my youngest son is really in the car with me, because I can’t see an inch of him, and he is a very quiet sleeper. This is when having a backseat mirror to see your baby/child is really useful.

  • BunnyOle

    I hate the washington post and I realize that even great parents have made this mistake, but that doesn’t mean these people were great parents or that MOST people who leave their child in a car are great parents. MOST are not.

    It’s very easy, before you leave the house/babysitter/school – you tell each of your kids goodbye individually. Who the hell assumes their baby is with someone and doesn’t check, and what babysitter, for that matter, doesn’t know how many children she will be watching that day. If I was told I would be watching all 3 kids, I would ask where the third one was.

  • BunnyOle

    Not just on this site either.

  • BunnyOle

    God, stop posting that stupid link.

  • BunnyOle

    Yeah, especially the kid.

  • BunnyOle

    Nah, it’s not the number of kids when there’s over 2, it’s the quality of most of the people have litters of children. Most of them would suck even with just one.

  • BunnyOle

    Over population is already here, the smart people cut back on their child bearing numbers years ago – while the filth of the planet are having 20 kids and more, sometimes from just one woman – and the men being worse. You read about the losers having 30 kids and working on minimum wage – there are men in muslim countries with well over 100 children, and it’s considered something to brag about.

    I saw a documentary in which one woman had 7 children the first 5 years she was married, 5 of them were retarded, and eventually went on to have 20 children. Of course they were first cousins and more than likely their parents were as well.

    So not only are they having more children than the planet can even sustain, the levels of inbreeding are creating a generation of stupid, violent genetic mutants with high levels of birth defects, physical problems and ZERO impulse control.

    I say – if you’re highly intelligent, breed like rabbits – maybe your kids will figure out how to get rid of the cockroaches.

  • Parrot Toes

    You have great taste if your avatar represents your fondness of Die Antwoord. I absolutely LOVE them and Yolandi is so hot.

  • Humanist99

    Ah! You beat me to it! I was thinking of commenting earlier abt the Die Antwoord avatar. Love them as well :) Awesome videos and music. I don’t know anyone around UT (where I live) that are even aware they exist. I came across their videos by accident on YouTube and have since bought 10 or so of their songs.

  • Parrot Toes

    I introduced my kids to them. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be the other way around, especially for such a “controversial” band. Yeah, I’m just cool like that. My kids should be grateful for it too, as I grew up with parents who thought anything “modern” made no sense and was the beginning of the end of the music industry. I was scared I would be the same way. Nope, not me.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    *staring off into space* — huh what?

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Still haven’t left those fuckers in the car.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    The second the car shuts off, he screams bloody murder. It’s like DUDE, LET ME GET OUT OF THE CAR

  • Daniel

    That completely nails the truth of today’s consumerist, self-absorbed, consumerist society. And seriously, it’s what “they” want. When “they” want to take someone’s friends and family away, they won’t care as long as they have their precious distractions. Bonus points when that someone rats out their friends, family or neighbors.

  • Aussie Sabbath

    Or maybe photo-shop a roast chicken into the car seat :P

  • driven .

    they forgot that they had the baby with them? wtf

  • Lakme Hesse

    Mine is screaming even before I turn the car off :-)

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I think we’re getting to that point!