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Michael NodianosSteubenville, OH – A video was released today by the hacktivist outfit KnightSec, that shows Michael Nodianos, a former Steubenville High student and baseball player, laughing and cracking jokes about two Steubenville High football players allegedly raping a 16-year-old girl.

We have gotten a lot of emails on why we have not covered the rape case going on in Steubenville, Ohio. The reason is that shortly after Alex Goddard from prinniefied.com began posting about it, we spoke on the phone and she gave me the lowdown. The truth is that there was just way too much information, and way too many layers for me to tackle — especially since I was flying DD solo at that time.

So for those of you unaware of the shitstorm going on in Steubenville, here’s the short version:

On April 11, 2011, a 16-year-old girl got trashed at a party attended by other Steubenville High students and athletes. So trashed that witnesses describe her being topless in the street vomiting, and being carried from one party to the next by two Big Red football players, Trent Mays and Ma’lik Richmond. While headed to one of these parties a football player told the police he videotaped Mays in the car penetrating the girl with his fingers while she “was just sitting there, not really doing anything.” He deleted the recording later, but not before showing it to one other person.

Witnesses at another party say the girl could not walk on her own and vomited several times. They say Mays then tried to get the unresponsive girl to give him a blowjob. Two witnesses testified that eventually the girl was on the ground, naked, unmoving and silent, while Richmond was behind her with his hands between her legs, penetrating her with his fingers. “I tried to tell Trent to stop it,” said Mays’s best friend. “You know, I told him, ‘Just wait — wait till she wakes up if you’re going to do any of this stuff. Don’t do anything you’re going to regret.’”

This did not stop Mays’s best friend from taking some pictures of what they were doing to the girl and showing it to several other people. He told the court he took the pictures so that the girl would know what happened, but ended up deleting them from his phone. When the girl woke up the next morning, she didn’t know what happened to her until she and her family saw the flood of explicit pictures and comments that were circulating YouTube, text messages, and Twitter.

One of these YouTube videos was the one you are about to see of Nodianos laughing about the girl possibly being raped at that very moment. It was unavailable until KnightSec got their hands on it and made it public. Nodianos is also the one who made posts on Twitter on the night of the alleged rape that read: “Song of the night is definitely Rape Me by Nirvana,” and “Some people deserve to be peed on.”

In the video that was just released, you can hear Nodianos go into a cringe-worthy comedy routine in which he references the girl as “dead girl” and remarks that she is deader than Caylee Anthony, Trayvon Martin, and 50 other things. Instead of re-hashing it, watch it for yourself — but note that near the end of the video, a couple other people there do have an issue with what was happening… they just didn’t do anything about it.

The case has sharply divided the town of Steubenville, with many backing the accused and many backing the accuser. Allegations of favoritism from town leaders who seem very protective over their football players, and even a defamation lawsuit filed against Alex Goddard and some of her site’s anonymous commenters (which was recently thrown out, thank god).

Like I said, lots of info, rumors, etc. But the entire thing really does sound like a really bad ’80s flick or an episode of Law & Order: SVU. If you want background on this case, be sure to read the in-depth New York Times article about it. For current, up-to-date info on this case, check out Prinniefied.com.

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  • http://twitter.com/vab423 Vicki B.

    I don’t understand how a guy could even consider having sex with someone who is drunk, unresponsive and PUKING

    Edit: do I need to put allegedly in there someplace?

  • Athena

    These days, honey, it’s better safe than sorry. But, you’re not referring to anyone specific (i.e. “a guy”), so I think you’re good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corinna-Cole/680230631 Corinna Cole

    I am at a loss for words. How do they find this funny? And how do you watch something like this and not do anything? I always told my brother, dont do anything to a girl you wouldnt want a guy to do to me. As in, dont let some girl get pissed on, raped, and have pictures of her passed out being violated unless you would want someone to do that to me. They need to have the same thing happen to them, I will make a video making fun of them and see how they feel afterwards. They are admitting that the guys raped her, so how can people back the accused?

  • Sam

    Almost makes you hope that the people who stood by and did nothing end up in a situation where they need help at some point. And to then be able to sit on their shoulder and remind them of the time they could have stopped a little girl from feeling exactly the way they are feeling there and then, and make them wonder if the strangers around them will be just as cold-hearted as they were back then.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    There is soooo much background to this story it’s not even funny. I hope to get Alex in a podcast to talk about this case as I find it fascinating. Not just from the perspective of the teens who stood by and did nothing, but to kids these days posting ANYTHING online without thought or fear of future reprecussions, and the mentality of “sports towns.”

  • Anosmia

    So I’m guessing no legal punishment can be doled out to Nodianos since he didn’t actually commit rape. What a depressing thought. The kid appears to be a sociopath (I’m suspicious that anybody with a shred of conscience would be laughing about a girl being raped in the next room and joking about her winding up dead), and the thought of him roaming freely is just sickening. Can’t he at least be charged for failing to stop it or failing to report it to police? I’d love to see the same thing happen to the other kids who were there and did nothing to stop the attack, but instead took photos or spread the the photos/videos online.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    No, he probably will not suffer anything but public shame and scorn. However, his comments on Twitter and this video are just another brick in the wall making up the prosecution’s case that their client was raped that night.

  • Athena

    There are still a lot of people in this country who believe you can deserve to be raped, or don’t believe it’s rape unless the girl clearly says “no” or fights… or just don’t care because women should still be considered property.

    It’s sad, but we’re not nearly as civilized a nation as we’d like to believe.

  • Andyman

    I almost hate that technology has progressed to the point where dumb high school kids ruin their lives in one way or another before they ever get started really living their lives. If we had Farcebook and all these video cameras, sexting, etc “back in my day” I’m sure I would have somehow documented my stupidity doing something wrong or illegal along the way – and getting busted for it. Once it’s out there, it’s out there. There is still no delete button on the internet. Sigh

  • JohnQknowitall

    My guess: the parents never had discussions of sexual responsibility with their sons.

  • brandi

    MAN! is there alot of shit going on with this. i tried to look it up and BOOM! like that i was confused as shit. apparently, the girl has a blog. and the parents of the accused along with the accused, have sued her over it, they did not win. and a bunch of other folks have blogs and criminal websites and such and they are all arguing over who is who and why in the case, and most are siding with the girl but then you got these ass hats that dont want to see their football stars goign to trial, and they are posting on one website after another on how this girl ruined people’s lives and deserved to be raped and……..*catches breath* wth is really going on, i just wanted some actual info on this story…. and all i got was a bunch of bullshit.

  • Buffettgirl

    My guess is that they’d never realize they so richly deserve the Karmic thumping they’d be experiencing. It’s all “poor me” all the time these days.

  • come_and_see

    Just to point out, according to the FBI it is considered “rape” if you have sex with a girl who was drunk and she regrets it.

  • come_and_see

    People were like this cruel back when I was in high school early-mid 00’s, but technology wasn’t as “dumbed” down as it is now and not everyone had a computer.

  • Athena

    In many jurisdictions, however, extreme drunkenness negates an individual’s ability to consent, so… it’s best not to screw drunk chicks you don’t know very well unless you want a judge determining for you what constitutes extreme drunkenness. Of course, I guess some people need law in lieu of common sense…

  • Evan Oswald

    damn that’s fucked up yo

  • melb1970

    No we’re not and probably never have been. ( as civilized as we’d like to think). I can vaguely recall an incident in college that involved a guy friend basically rescuing me from his not so ethical roommate while I was plastered. The not so ethical room mate did apologize for his waaay out of line behavior.. excessive alcohol consumption does lead to poor choices. It is not however an excuse by any means. It’s pretty safe to say if your chick doesn’t respond in kind to your advances.. its a NO.

  • Melissa Chamberlain

    What a tool.

  • Zazen

    Alternately though, Andyman, when this happened back then, it could easily get swept under the carpet, thanks to no actual documentation of a crime. Don’t bust on facebook, camera phones and the like; the moment those kids ruined their lives was not when they started filming and posting about actual rape going on–it was when they decided to commit an absolutely heinous crime. I am grateful they were stupid enough to post it.

  • Andyman

    Yeah I get your position. And while I somewhat agree I guess my point was more about hating that kids make bad decisions to post things that will devastate them later than it was about excusing kids raping incapacitated females. Both are horrible. I wasn’t defending any rapists. My point is that in 1991 when I graduated from high school we didn’t have these difficult decisions to make (or more importantly avoid) as children. Obviously rape is never acceptable at any day or age; what I take offense to is the likelihood that a moment or two in lack of judgement won’t lead to a lifetime of misery based on a super bad decision.

  • http://www.facebook.com/That.Girl.Has.Tattoos Savage Von Drachenberg

    This is sofucking disgusting. Way to fucking go Ohio.

  • Zazen

    I know you weren’t lol, and I get where you were coming from. I know I’m thrilled to death no one was following my ass with a camera back in the day.

    Graduated in ’91 huh? That makes us the same age, I’d imagine. I think your statement–that this wasn’t a decision for you to make–says nice things about you. I remember the football players from my high school though, and this sounds like something one or two of them would have gotten up to.

    In my case, I’m sure any drug convictions or DWIs I might have gained would have messed things up for me a bit, but I can still come back from that. How do you come back from raping someone, that’s what I want to know.

  • Andyman

    Well thanks for the kind assumptions regarding my character. I can’t fathom how people inflict ill will on someone else whether it be intercourse or anything else left to the imagination.

    I got a dwi in 1995 myself. I got out of it with a great lawyer and some swift maneuvering but I side with morbid nowadays on drunk driving. I will leave you with this- how is it that the speed limit can be 65 MPH and it is legal to go 65 MPH. Meanwhile, I get stopped for 38 in a 25 and since I blow .08 I get a dwi? That make any sense to anyone? Inquiring minds want to know.

  • CharredBarn

    I don’t understand your confusion. You got stopped because you were way over speed limit. You got a DUI because you blew a .08. What’s confusing about that?

  • Athena

    You know what I hate? That, in many places, this is bigger news than the actual rape. That I had heard only whispers about the rape itself, but now that some asshole kid was caught on video joking about the rape, it’s national news.

    The biggest story, here, may be the fact that, as a society, we are more horrified and fascinated by the kind of guy who can joke about rape than the kind of guys who can actually commit it.

    Don’t get me wrong; I’m not on a soapbox, here. I’m right down in the mud with everyone else, as I’m guilty of the same disgust and interest. We expect rape. We don’t expect anyone to joke about it. And, in my opinion, that’s a big part of the problem.

    No, this kid won’t get any charges, nor should he. First Amendment and all. If he was my teenage son, however, he’d get so much fucking sensitivity training, he’d have a goddamn vagina by the time he was done.

    And, what kind of person stands by and watches an assault? Well, take a glance around whatever room you’re in. Research suggests that a mere 5% of the population will intervene on behalf of a stranger (or even acquaintance) if they perceive a potential physical threat. It’s a two-fold issue: We have a survival instinct, and we don’t do enough as a society to train ourselves, each other, our children… to override it. How many of us had parents who specifically taught and encouraged us to risk our personal safety to protect someone else? Probably none. Hell, most parents don’t even adequately teach children to protect themselves. Bravery is great… for someone else’s kid.

    I’m actually watching “What Would You Do?” as I type. Hundreds of people witness a disturbing situation. Often, only two or three dare to say something, much less approach the situation. It’s usually the “Bystander Effect“. The more people who are present, the less likely anyone is to stand up to something, because they all believe someone else will.

    These are larger-than-life social issues. If nothing else, hopefully the callous derision displayed by this kid encourages us to have several conversations with our kids about the kind of people we want them to be.

  • http://www.last.fm/user/runawayuniverse runawayuniverse

    She didn’t “get trashed”, she was given a date rape drug and passed out as a result.

  • Andyman

    What’s confusing? If I drive 65 MPH in a 65 zone I am within the limits of the law. If I blow a .08 when the legal limit is a .08 I get a dwi? Are you missing the hipocracy or are you…. ?

  • CharredBarn

    OK. I see what you’re saying. I’m not “…” Read the relevant statutes. in a 65 mph zone, 65 is the max legal speed limit. DUI laws don’t say .08 is the maximum legal alcohol limit. They say .08 and above is above the legal limit. Nothing to do with “hipocracy,” as you so charmingly choose to spell it.

  • Andyman

    It seems that we are be laboring the issue. It seems odd to me that on the one hand they can set a certain limit in the state of NC that contradicts a different legal limit in another venue. How, on the one hand, can a speed limit be acceptable to the upper limit when an upper limit on BAC isn’t? I don’t know what state you live in but to me this is bullshit. And that’s my point. Your mileage may apparently vary. I’m not defending drinking and driving. What I am suggesting is how can each be held to a different standard? And how is it that you can’t understand my point. Cheers.

  • JGo555

    I hope that dude has to buy a bride from another country because all females in his country are unwilling to be in the same room as he is.

    Rape is NOT funny unless you are getting what’s coming for molesting children or abusing a partner.

  • Wicked Smilee

    The World is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing…Albert Einstein

  • http://twitter.com/Suberec Suberec

    Anonymous is on this like well you know what http://localleaks.blogs.ru/

  • http://twitter.com/Suberec Suberec

    Been visiting DD for over 3 years now that is my first post. I’m so happy I feel like I know you all

  • Canuck Gramz

    Andyman I think I get your point. In Canada the lega limit is .08 but most policemen will here will not charge the person until it’s 0.10% BAC because of the “margin of error”

    Quote from MAAD Canada:

    “The current BAC federal legal limit is 0.08% (80 mg. of alcohol per 100 ml. of blood).However, given the 0.02% BAC margin of error accepted by our courts, most police will not consider laying an impaired driving

    The current BAC federal legal limit is 0.08% (80 mg. of alcohol per 100 ml. of blood).

    However, given the 0.02% BAC margin of error accepted by our courts, most police will not consider laying an impaired driving Criminal Code charge”

    I would strongly advise you to ask your lawyer about what is the “margin of error” accepted in courts. The authorities may not have a leg to stand on and are hoping to pressure you into copping a deal. Thats only my opinion though, and advice, but please listen to a lawyer ( hopefully) you trust.

    That said—–Andy please , please don’t ever drink and drive. One beer can affect you. Did you know that? Wait at least an hour , even if you only had one drink, before you drive. If you’ve had more, don’t drive. Pay a cab. Have a designated driver. Sleep on a friend’s couch. I say this to every young adult I talk to ( especially the ones I think are smart and have compassion for others) I’m saving it to you because you are worth than that and I know you care about people and oh, if you take my words to heart I will be so happy I will cry and laugh at the same time!!

    By the way my sweet , adorable baby grandson was killed by a drunk driver when he was only 7 months old. The drunk driver was falling down staggeringl drunk. He hit the car that the baby and his mama were in, HEAD ON going 60 miles an hour. I don’t know how the mommy survived! It was a nightmare for all of us. For 2 years his grandparents ( the mommy’s parents) and me and hubby went to every court case and fought for him to go to jail, fought for justice. In the end he got 2 years and served 9 months.

    You don’t want to hurt yourself, hurt someone else, or worst case scenario kill someone. And you don’t want your life ruined. I don’t want your life ruined. I’m trying to say this with grace and caring. Thank for listening!

  • Valerie

    I hope he never lives this down. How cruel can people be to joke about someone being raped? I wonder how the little dumb fuck would feel if he were being raped while a bunch of asshats just stood by and laughed about it? I really try to not attack teens for being stupid, but this kid is more than that. He is absolutely heartless. His parents should be ashamed that they brought him into this world.

  • Andyman

    Aww, you’re sweet. And I’m so sorry for your loss. My DWI was in college in 1995 and the case was dismissed because we let the court continue the case 5 or 6 times and moved to go to trial on the day the cop didn’t show up for court. My lawyer explained that my witness who had come the past two times was not going to be available after today and that we moved for a dismissal. Believe me when I say I learned my lesson. It is interesting to me that in Canada they have something of what sounds like an assumed margin of error – I’ve never heard of that here although it does make sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    It’s bullshit to say she was given a date rape drug.These girls nowadays walk around like they have nothing to fear.It used to be that we protected women ,now they walk around and talk worse shit than the guys..They see nothing wrong about getting shitfaced drunk because of their pathetic lives and then want to scream foul when something bad happens.Face it women are equal but if you believe that across the board you are heading for trouble.If you don’t think there is a built in vulnerability to the female design in these cases ,then you are kidding yourselves,and our forefathers just got it all wrong when the said it was a man’s job to protect women.

  • http://www.facebook.com/scottymac247 Scott McAllister

    this is how you make mommy and daddy proud is this how kids are these days they did something terrible and think its the greatest thing they ever did. so many miss directed kids in this world

  • Valerie

    My ex-husband attempted to rape me eight months after I left him. He wrote out and signed TWO confessions about what he did. He ended up pleading not guilty, though, so it had to go to trial. They tried several different ways of convincing the jury to find him innocent. One of those was the archaic belief that because we were still technically married, he had every right to have sex with me. You wouldn’t believe how many people commented online regarding “how is it possible for a man to rape his wife?” They also tried to claim that I was into “fantasy rape” (not true, at all) and rough sex and that he didn’t know that it was a real no until the police showed up. He also tried to say that when he confessed to “trying to force my wife to have sex with me” (his words in the written confession) he only meant that he was trying to force me by begging and pleading.
    Going on the witness stand is hell. Having a bunch of strangers stare at you while someone tries to talk about how “slutty” or “kinky” you may or may not be is humiliating. And to see that sick fuck smiling while I was crying about what he did and describing everything including my then 4 year old daughter walking in on him doing that, made me sick.
    Sorry, I get very angry and emotional over it still. It’s been over two years and I still have nightmares and my daughter still talks about what she saw (she is in counseling). I said all of this to tell you that victim blaming is still alive and well. The defense will try to find some way to make this the victim’s fault. I feel for the poor girl. They have stolen something from her that she will never get back.
    OH, the jury found my ex guilty and he is now sitting in prison. I had always hoped to have a DD article about it, but that wasn’t in the cards.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    you bumped your head. women shouldn’t have to fear anything.. women like having fun too and they shouldn’t be in fear of getting roofied and raped. are we supposed to be wearing burkas now and only walk around with our uncles and fathers for protection? if i want to get shit faced drunk then that is my problem. it will become your problem if you think it’s okay to take advantage of my drunk ass. it’s pathetic that jerkoffs like you want to blame the victims and not the horny desperate pathetic douchebags that have to rape to get laid.

  • Valerie

    So, because you are a man you have nothing to fear? Would it be okay for another guy to slip you a drug or get you trashed to the point of passing out and then do as he pleases with you? Whether or not a woman acts vulnerable or believes that she is fully equal to a man does not make it okay for someone to rape her, just as it is not okay for someone to rape you. People get drunk, I’ve done it, several of us have. It doesn’t mean that it is okay for another person to take advantage of me.

  • Justagirl

    How horrible. Glad that fucker is behind bars so you & your daughter can ‘try’ to move on without living in fear. Props to you for remaining so strong during that joke of a trial. *hugs*!

  • Valerie

    Thanks. I was terrified about the trial. He had always gotten away with the abuse beforehand. He was always able to talk his way out of things. I’ve had bruises all over, busted lips, etc and he could still talk himself out of trouble, or he would claim self defense. I don’t know why he signed the confessions (yes he did it, but I am surprised that he admitted to it), but he DID change his mind and try to recant. If he hadn’t signed those, it would have been my word against his and he would have probably walked.

  • Justagirl

    I must have no faith in humanity. I was more shocked that there were people standing up & saying *this is so wrong/this is rape/what if it were YOUR daughter* etc, than I was hearing Nodianos’s commentary. But still..they did nothing..

  • Justagirl

    “They see nothing wrong about getting shitfaced drunk because of their pathetic lives”
    ^^ I didnt read much past this besides *blah, blah blah”. I see NO animosity from your post about the pathetic men who think its okay to do this to another human being/drunk or not. With all due respect, you sound like an insensitive ass. Put the blame where it belongs: On these perverts who cant keep it in their pants and leave us drunk girls alone! I am farrrr from a feminist, but come on now…

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    That’s not what I’m saying .I’m saying that you are way out there if you think it won’t happen .Go have fun wear what you want ,when you get ran up in don’t cry to noone ,as you say it was your right ,she was breaking the law anyways but this poor little skank wants to cry rape .Welcome to primetime bitches”you reap ,what you sew.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    It’s pathetic that whores like you need something like this to wake them up.Fucking loser.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    I am saying that you need to be responsible for your actions,yeahI am insensitive because,if you walk around with your head in the sand that assholes like this don’t exist then you will end up learning a hard lesson.The girl was 16 and she didn’t think she should maybe go in a gfroup or something.To a group party that she wasn’t really part of the group.Read the witness statements,drugs weren’t found semen wasn’t found .Noone roofied her ,she got drunk and taken advantage of .She is the victim of her own stupidity.Or” Freedom” as Christal wants to call it..

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    I am aware of my surroundings and who I am with,I am also not a sixteen year old girl.Noone is saying it’s okay ,as a matter of fact it would not happen in my presense at all.You are confusing ideals with reality,especially when you are talking about a group that is given arte blanche by the town they live in.It’s not a feminist issue ,it’s a common sense issue.Put your fucking soapbox away and listen to what is being said.

  • Valerie

    When you decide to “run it up” in some passed out chick, don’t come crying to us when some guy in prison “runs it up your ass”. You reap what you SOW. I really hope you never have a daughter. It would be a shame for her to be raised by a man that thinks that raping women under any circumstance is okay.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Welcome.

  • Valerie

    Listen to what you are saying. You called a 16 year old girl that was being stupid and getting raped a skank. For all you know, that girl was a virgin (I stupidly drank with friends as a virgin). Thankfully, I was around people with enough decency to not do shit like this to me. Young kids make horrible decisions. Drinking was a bad choice on her part. Whether or not she was slipped a date rape drug doesn’t matter. Once she was that messed up, those creeps decided to do that to her. She didn’t make that choice. As long as dirty little fuck sticks like you treat women like sex objects that can only be trotted out for your use, and deserve to be punished for being “bad”, these things will happen. I deserve to decide who I sleep with and what I want to do to have a good time. I don’t drink and I am happily married now, btw, but those choices should not be taken from me simply because I have a vagina.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Again Idiot,you are sorely missing my point ,and it will probably be you who learns these lessons the hard way.I don’t infringe on anyone’s rights but if you are dumb enough to believe that you are safe in assuming noone will .You’re the idiot ,and I hope you never have a daughter be cause she be raised by an idiot who believes in invincibility of the naive.Where were the rest of the females that were there?Why didn’t they help her out ,or call someone.Or was the little angel princess the only one .Looks like she got all the attention she wanted and then some .

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    She was drunk as hell at 10;30 ,no drugs were present .No semen was present,it’s sexual battery at the most.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    How many girls get drunk and consent ,then cry rape the next day through embarrassment and shame.The sentences doled out in these cases are sometimes higher than premeditated murder.Little wonder most victims of true rape are killed afterwards.

  • Valerie

    I’ve have been raped by a worthless piece of shit like you. I grew up with him and went to school with him. He was supposed to be my friend. Oh, and i wasn’t drunk. Just stopped by his house to say hi and hang out. So, yes, girls can be raped because they trust douche bags like yourself to not put their little weenies where they aren’t supposed to. Men like you make me sick. Does your mother know that you think it’s okay to rape a woman as punishment for stepping out of line? How would you feel if this happened to your mother? Your grandmother? A daughter (although I doubt a woman would willingly grant you access to make a child)? Oh, and if that is your real last name, it fits you.

  • Sam

    Nice to see we’ve managed to lure a lurker out of the shadows! ;) Welcome.
    I tend to take things Anonymous puts out there with a grain of salt, but if even half of what it says on that blog is true that’s very disturbing. Especially the part where a friend of the victim’s ex-boyfriend worked on her for a month trying to coax her into going out with him, all for the sole purpose of giving her whatfer for having the audacity of breaking up with Mr FanFuckingTastic Footballplayer.

  • Sam

    You were there, were you? Oh, i see, you have credible sources. Sources that you don’t quote. But of course.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Read the goodamn statements idiot.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    “True rape.”

    Fuck off.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Because sexual battery is SO much better than rape!!! Ugh. You’re disgusting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Then you are truly a shitty judge of character,sucks to be you .As for my name I love it my ancestor wroth th Three musketeers,Count of Monte Christ etc.I feel sorry for your daughter ,and the guy that was dumb aenough to marry an idiot like you.I don’t rape anyone lady ,don’t have to and why would you when all these women run around looking and acting like whores anyway.Your daughter will be out there soon enough ,be sure to tell her to wear the short skirt with no panties because that is her right.Moron.

  • Athena

    Yes, some awful chicks lie about rape, and I’ve stated repeatedly that I believe they should be prosecuted and sentenced as harshly as her victim would have been. But that doesn’t justify anything.

    Also, most victims of “true rape” (lololol) aren’t killed, so I’m not sure where you got that idea.

  • Sam

    OK, first of all – calling everybody and sundry names just because they dare to not agree with you is not the best way to get them to see your side of things. Also, correct spelling helps immensely in getting your point across.
    But apart from that – nowhere in the above article does it say anything about there NOT being any drugs or semen present. So, unless you are actually referring to the reputable newspaper ‘Goodamn’, i haven’t a clue which statements you are on about. Do you in fact have quotes, links, ANY information whatsoever about where you got your statements from, or are you in fact pulling them from behind your elbow?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    As long as entitled feeling skanks like you don’t realize the foolishness in what they are doing .This shit will continue.Don’t project your bullshit on me .You married and had a kid with one of these same morons .So fuck you and your pathetic argument,go out and trap another sucker,guarantee it won’t be me.By the way it’s idiots like you who spawn these fucks to begin with,wonder what chromosome your daughter is lacking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    I mean stranger on stranger rape ,where the female in no way put herself in harms way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    You said it was attempted ,get your story straight you lying piece of female shit.

  • Valerie

    Fuck you, I was raped as a teenager. My ex attempted to do it.

  • Sam

    Geez, take a chill pill man. Bitter much? Perhaps not gotten laid in a while?
    If i want to run in the middle of the street, in pitch black, buck naked, with a dildo up my ass and drunk out of my skull, that is my RIGHT and i SHOULD be able to do that. That does not mean that any degenerate should just assume that they can fuck me. If i didn’t consent, that means no, no matter what else.
    Now i do agree that in the real world things just don’t work this way. There are idiots who love to take advantage of girls who can’t say no (or can’t say no loud enough), and there are certain precautions that a girl can take to reduce the risk. It’s not right, but it’s reality. HOWEVER. If some lowlife rapes a girl, it is the lowlife’s fault, NOT the girl’s. It is despicable that people such as yourself will, instead of laying the blame with the actual perpetrator of the CRIME, they will do all they can to find fault with whatever the VICTIM did. That is making excuses for the rapist, and that is why you are finding so many people are disagreeing with you right now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    That’s what I thought ,go cry bitch.

  • Valerie

    You really just threatened to have sex with my six year old daughter? You are one sick, fucked up person.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HamsterNinjaofDOOM Alecia Hendricks

    I may be completely wrong about this but I believe at least in some places if you blow under or at the limit but you are still deemed impaired they can charge you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HamsterNinjaofDOOM Alecia Hendricks

    I really don’t think it’s worth replying to him, whether he’s trolling or being serious it’s not worth the raised blood pressure.

  • Valerie

    You are right. It is a very sensitive subject for me and I shouldn’t let this get under my skin.

  • OutOfBubbleGum

    Perhaps, Nodianos is auditioning for David Letterman’s job, For his act, he just needs to change “16 year old victim” to “Sarah Palin.”

  • Gee

    The social Media and the act of these kids posting “ANYTHING” is a very interesting concept. It’s is the perfect example of human race not being able to keep up with the advancement of technology. I think we have gotten to the point of we need to teach this shit in schools now. This rape is disgusting!

  • Athena

    I get what you mean, but you’re diggin’ your hole deeper, buddy. And, still, most victims of stranger-on-stranger (perhaps “forcible” is the term you were looking for?) rape are not killed.

  • sweekymom

    Where were the adults when all this shit was going on? Why has nobody really asked that question, at least as far as I can see?

  • Athena

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for testifying. Perhaps you understand how incredibly valuable that torturous effort of yours was, but you’ve helped countless people, and you should be proud.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    A woman should be allowed to leave her house, go to a party, get tipsy and NOT be raped.

    I find it sickening that in this country, we teach women how to avoid being raped as opposed to teaching men DON’T RAPE.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Ha. Good.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Hey, Mr. Dumbass. I’m two seconds away from blasting your facebook all over MY facebook, telling all 639 of my friends that you condone rape. Want to see how fast it takes Anonymous to ruin YOUR life? I kinda wanna start bets on that shit. So I’d stop talking shit if I were you, go back to your lil rathole, and leave the grown ups alone. Because just as fast as Anon. stepped in to this story, don’t believe they won’t take you down, too.

  • Athena

    He’s actually right, as deplorable as he is. NY Times article. According to what I’ve found, there was no report of intercourse (just digital penetration), and she was brought in too late to perform toxicology tests to determine if there were drugs in her system.

    Where he is wrong is in his thinking that this is somehow better than rape, and the inference that this was her fault for putting herself there.

  • Gee

    Your post really does come off a very insensitive. I agree with many of your points….. Many women and young girls put themselves in very disturbing situations while intoxicated. Under no circumstances do I believe that gives anyone the right to rape someone who is vulnerable.This happens to male and females BTW. When I am working with a young lady who is getting sober and facing the demons of her past, many women have had a situation similar happen to them due to their drinking. We talk about what there culpability, Not that they are responsible for a rape but the actions they took that lead to the rape.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    You know who else needs to be responsible for their actions? MEN. Stop raping, and there won’t be rape! What a concept!
    You want everyone to be held accountable, except rapists.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    This lil rape caravan started at the house of one coach, then proceeded to the house of yet another coach, who “didn’t like what he saw,” so he kicked them out. Instead of, you know, calling the police.

  • Gee

    We need to really bring home the the affects produce by Alcohol and how our actions can lead to the worst possible reaction. Be responsible while drinking also refers to your own safety not just others. We need to educate our young ladies about the horrors of getting so intoxicated that you leave yourself this vulnerable. I do not believe it is her fault but whole heartily believe that under these circumstances she personally could have avoided this rape.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Do you hear that? It’s Nodianos’ scholarship floating away in the breeze.

    His jokes are STUPID on top of being atrocious. Deader than Caylee Anthony? *rolls her eyes*

    There are people actually sticking up for the victim in the video. Too bad they didn’t actually DO anything.

    But in a football-centric bumfuck two-horse town, it can be really difficult to go up against the machine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Richardson/100001691531919 Patrick Richardson

    To treat a young girl like these creeps did just shows they are all a bunch of gutless, worthless scumbags. This includes those who stood around and did nothing. That place is obviously devoid of decency and should be avoided. In my opinion.

  • newstarshipsmell

    I love you, Heather.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    FUCK, MAN. Where do people like this guy and the rapists, and the idiots in the video, come from!? Sure the fuck ain’t MY planet. ugh. Makes me wanna puke.

  • Gee

    Your harshness towards the victim ( she is a victim even if her actions lead to the rape) is very hard to swallow. You seem to have the capacity to make a valid point but you keep fucking it up with your flip flopping to it being her fault and calling her a skank. Unless you personally know her why are you making such judgements. These comments make you no different then the ass holes defending these fuck tards just because they are star high school foot ball players. Now I feel like a jack ass for even making the statement in my first post agreeing with some of your points.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Oh, and PS: Date rape drugs are really hard to detect. So the fact they didn’t show up in a test doesn’t mean they weren’t given to her.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    Yet another example of a town where people worship their athletes and athletic programs.

  • Sam

    Ha, you just beat me to it. Also, she didn’t realise there was any cause for going and getting a rape kit and drug test done until long after, anything that would have been there earlier would have been metabolised by then.

  • Justagirl

    Exactly, Heather! WE should be held accountable. WE should open our eyes. WE need to stop putting ourselves in that position. Yet he doesnt say a word about the *men* that are doing this to us. You wanna know the sad part? Hes not alone… many men (and woman) feel this way and its 50 shades of fucked up.

  • Sam

    Ok, fair enough. Still, ‘brought in too late’ to me doesn’t mean there weren’t drugs involved. The descriptions of her completely still and motionless seem off to me, I’m not sure I’ve ever been THAT drunk.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Nobody is saying she shouldn’t be able too.Just saying if you don’t believe these things happen and safeguard yourself against them.You’re rolling the dice in a very dangerous game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Many ,many rapes are implied force rapes ,that’s how you can tell when they are faked,by the alledged victim.Don’t try and school me in a subject I have plenty of schooling in already.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    The statements read that there couldn’t be a kit performed because she had already washed up and took a shower.Adrug scan would have picked up rohypnol or mda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Oh and no they aren’t

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    exactly ,she didn’t know anything happened.True victim if ever there was one,she’ll be a great mother some day.

  • Athena

    If you were so “schooled”, you would not have used the word “true rape”. Forcible rape between acquaintances or friends is still “true rape”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    So you agree with some little tramp lying to her parents to go party with the big kids ,but he doesn’t have freedom of speech,even when intoxicated .Seems like you think freedom is a one way street.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    They shouldn’t GRANTED but there are dangers for everyone .Just because you get your empowerment by watching the Kardashians nowadays,doesn’t mean anything has really changed.

  • Athena

    Agreed wholeheartedly. James has some very valid points, he’s simply coating them in bile and misogyny. I hope it doesn’t get this thread shut down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    You’re in dire need of schooling if that’s what you got out of that.Fuck you ladya dn your tragedy of a child.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Yeah cause everyone of you is a beautiful little dady’s girl princess.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Fight fire with fire.They only read into what they want to see.It’s allways these .I went throuhg this with my girl’s sister ,said she passed out and got gangraped at a party.We had the guns in the truck before we found out that people were coming in during the alledged assault and were even talking to her.These people mistook my words and made it a battle of the sexes,because they don’t think there’s any way a female can contribute to her own demise .Gotta be those damn men.Fuck that shit.

  • Valerie

    It’s terrifying. And I understand why “legitimate” rape claims get dismissed. It is already humiliating to go through all of that and having strangers look at pictures of bruises in various areas of your body, but to have any and all indiscretions aired out is even worse. They ask some questions even knowing that they will be objected to just because they want to taint the jury members’ minds. If you are familiar with those types of crimes you should know how it goes (I was only in the courtroom for my testimony, reading of the verdict, and the sentencing phase) I wasn’t allowed to see his testimony, but I was told that he made an ass of himself on the stand.
    First, he claimed that he was only begging and pleading for sex. Then, he said that “fantasy rape” was normal sex play for us and that he had no idea I was serious until the cop showed up. Then, he admitted that he was pissed because he THOUGHT I was having a relationship with another man. Then, he went back to only begging and pleading, then claimed that I was sleeping with both him and another man. He was all over with excuses and the jury saw through it.

    He was facing attempt to commit forcible rape and forcible sodomy. He was found innocent of the forcible sodomy (no evidence other than my word against his, and I understand why they could not find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on that one), when they read that verdict he pumped his fist and yelled “YES!” It was worth seeing him deflate like a balloon when they fund him guilty of the second charge of attempt to commit forcible rape. He definitely stopped celebrating. My victim’s advocate rushed me to the stairwell outside the courtroom and my knees went out on me. It took over a year to get to trial and I couldn’t believe it was over.
    Oh, and i very nearly didn’t go through with it. I had a lot of great support from friends and family. I wanted to back out so many times.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    fuck you skank ,I hope you get the right one.639 friends ……..yeah right ,another skank that lets everyone view their private lives.You don’t know 639 people .do what you want.

  • Sam

    Hold the phone – you think implied force rape is fake??? So if some douchebag eg tells a woman he will kill her family if she doesn’t cooperate, she is faking being raped?? WTF???

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Even uglyass crackwhores are not deserving of rape.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    it’s common sense you fucking idiot.She was already sending nude pics of herself that is disemminating child porn.Fuck you bitch.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Oh, bless your little heart. I will.

  • Gee

    What does that statement have to do with being raped… Dude what are you saying in one post you say you would never stand by and watch what happen to her happen but in all the others your making it out to be like if your skanky and drink too much you deserve to be raped. There is never an instant that anyone deserves to be raped. What is wrong with you?

  • Sam

    Actually, especially rohypnol is notoriously difficult to detect, even if the victim gets tested right away (which this girl didn’t because she didn’t know she had a reason to get tested until later)

  • Gee

    No kidding he is all over the fucking place

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    I don’t excuse anyone in this case ,made no excuse for anyone just sying in my neck of the woods ,girls are taught from very early on that this shit is real,fucking do that in this neighborhood we won’t even need the cops.Every chick with a chip on her shoulder had something to read into what I was saying or trying to anyway.So I automatically went on the defense.My sexlife is of little importance,maybe some of these females need to ask themselves the same question though.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Yes they are! It’s a fucking scientific FACT. lol You’re fucking DUMB.

    http://www.womenshealth.gov/publications/our-publications/fact-sheet/date-rape-drugs.cfm

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Yes, call a rape victim a little tramp. This is REALLY gonna help you in the future.

  • Valerie

    Please tell me you are a Southern girl lol. Bless his heart hehe

  • Heather_Habilatory

    No, I’m not. But I know how to properly use that phrase!

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Why don’t you two bitches consummate online .That’s how it is nowadays right.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Unless, of course, the girl is a drunken skank. Then she has it coming to her, right?

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    You do know that by admitting you have been here for three years and feel like you know us, and then stuck around and made a comment, makes you nuttier than a shithouse rat?

  • Athena

    I used to intern for a public defense attorney, and have seen a rape case or two in my time. People thing public defenders are slime, that they want to torture and humiliate women like you on the stand. But they don’t. The reality of the situation is that they are just doing their job. It’s a very important job, too, because, if a defense attorney doesn’t do everything in his power to defend his client (including and not limited to painting his victim as being at fault), it could result in a mistrial or, worse yet, acquittal. Defense attorneys have callous exteriors, but know that, deep inside, your ex’s lawyer was secretly rooting for you.

    It’s important that women like you talk about your experience with the trial phase… most importantly, that it’s survivable. A lot more survivable, I would think, than knowing your attacker will never suffer for what he did, which often happens when a victim is unwilling to testify.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    That is not true from any law enforcement agency in this country,if she complies .That’s what this case is about ,if she was so messed up that consent could not be considered at all.

  • Athena

    Ain’t that the truth.

  • VilulaNat

    How could anyone be so thoughtless and callous? What is wrong with people? This “football culture” of allowing athletes to get away with crime because they are good at running or playing with balls…. it’s one major issue with this country, where we pretend to be soooo enlightened with civil, women and human rights, but turn our heads when our hometown heros commit crimes. If you read the NY Times article sited above and the diatribe spewed by the Defense lawyers and coaches…. “it’s not their fault,” “They are good boys,” “He was in the wrong place at the wrong time,” (really? wrong place at the wrong time and who, may I ask held a gun to the little shit’s head and made him rape that girl?) And who, with any shred of human decency not only watches what’s going on and doesn’t try to stop it, but breaks out a camera and then spreads this shit all over the internet for any pedophile can continue to violate this girl. No one deserves this, no one! I don’t care if in her waking moments this girl screwed anything with a pulse and then bragged about it online or if she dressed provocatively or took pictures that were risque, those were her conscious choices. When you are unconscious your ability to consent is null and void, I don’t give a flying fuck if she later was able to give someone a pass-code to her phone…. did she say you can finger me in front of a room full of kids, take pictures and video and spread it around the internet? If she did not say yes it’s the same as saying no! And at ever turn you have parents defending the behavior of these vile human beings. Not my baby boy…. bullshit! Take a good look at the monsters you are raising, this is the future of America people, take a good hard look, this is what we have become. There is no longer anything that makes us a superior species, we are broken, so much so that we laugh and encourage each other to piss on our peers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Tipsy …….geez Whatever spin you want to put on it .She needed some friends with her if she was going to be that fucked up.Personally I’m surprised she didn’t die from alcohol poisoning.16 years old and apparently a big tolerance.Yep,she was a little princess pure as the driven snow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HamsterNinjaofDOOM Alecia Hendricks

    Maybe it’s because you insist on calling every female you respond to a tramp and a whore instead of stating your opinions and facts in a civilized manner. I agree with some of your points actually, you just state it in a miserable way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    read it again and get a grip.Faked rapes are obvious because of what the victim does to stage the rape.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    she’s telling me the definition of forcible rape.You have some fucked up friends then.JUmp on anything I say and squeeze al the self righteous justification you can out of it .I find it amusing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Soory I specialized in stranger on stranger ,power re assurance rapist gentlemen rapists and sadistic rapists.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    “She didn’t know anything happened” …. huh. Sounds a lot like she was drugged to me.

  • Athena

    *Sigh*

    All women realize that there are behaviors that put them at greater risk for attack. Some women choose to ignore that and make bad decisions. The point is, nothing, NOTHING a woman does makes a man rape her. Not dressing skanky, not drinking too much, not screwing 100 other guys. The decision to rape is solely that of the male. So, yeah, “Gotta be those damn men.”

    Let’s take gender out of this. If I rob your home, that’s on me, right? Even if you left your door unlocked, it’s still not my right to walk up into that bitch and take everything I want, right? The way you’re talking, you are making it sound like, if you leave your door unlocked, you deserved to be robbed… that you brought it on yourself. But it was ME that decided to enter your home without permission. It’s not your fault for having a nice house or not having an alarm system. It’s my fault for not respecting your rights.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    if you’re gonna do time for it .you bet your ass.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    She’s siteen and lied to her parents about sleeping at a friends house.Where were these friends then.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Thank you ,,,,,,all I was trying to say.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    she was tested like a day and a half later,what knockout drug can;t be detected after that long of time.

  • come_and_see

    In our country we give high fives to boys who bang their teachers.

  • Athena

    THIS IS TOTALLY REASONABLE! WHY COULD YOU NOT STICK WITH THIS?!?

    Christ, dude. Getting these women all riled up with your “skank” this and “whore” that. :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    A college coach is paid to win ball games ,doesn’t matter one way or the other.He’s a baseball player anyway.Get your head out of the clouds ,there is a real in your face scary shit world down here .On second thought …go back to your iphone so the news has something to talk about..

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I’m starting to think YOU’VE done time for what you see as consensual sex from some “drunken whore who shouldn’t have been drinking at a party and wearing a skirt so god damned short if she didn’t want some random dick in her hole!”

  • Gee

    Oh James I think you are a little challenged when it comes to conveying a point. May I suggest you have another person read your post make some edits and then post :)

  • Athena

    “Specialized”? If you don’t mind me asking, were you an MP or something? I see you have military experience, but your profile says you work for Cat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    they attacked me ,my gender ,my penis ,implied i was a pedophile .come on man

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    No I don’t i think the stereot ype of rape is violent and often implied violence rapes are not reported or if they are the victim harms themselves in a way to be more believable.

  • Patr1ckBateman

    I always thought that the most fun thing about sex is the active, consensual participation of the other person. The fact that they find you attractive, respect you and want to be with you intimately. The fact that they are choosing to share that intimacy with you, that they find you worthy to share themselves with.

    Is that hopelessly naive? Am I missing something?

    It’s still a basic fact that taking advantage of a drunk girl is vile, yeah? Violating someone who is too fucked up to make the decision….. HOW THE CHRIST IS THAT EXCITING????? I don’t fucking understand….. I can’t think of the words to… fuck I don’t know.

  • Valerie

    This is a great way to compare it.

  • Abroad

    Word!

  • Buffettgirl

    To be fair, it’s kind of her job to lie to her parents about stupid stuff like this at her age. I did the same damn thing at 16, with two friends and the circle of “no, we’re spending the night at ________’s house…” to our parents so we could have a night out. We ended up partying at the Kappa Sigma house at Georgia Tech, stayed the entire night. Thank God looking back that they turned out to be true gentlemen and we remained the virgins we were at the time. It could have ended so badly, especially as it was the summer of 1987 and the world wasn’t going to look at us as anything but tramps if something HAD gone badly.

    I think it’s bad form to blame her just because she did something almost ALL of us have done at one time or another…

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    women need to callit .If your dude’s dealin dope call him on it .the days of hangin with the dope dealre while he;s giving you shit then turning on him is over.you will be tried as a conspritor and recieve the same sentence as as him.it is a federal law.stupid.

  • newstarshipsmell

    LOL, why don’t you take your infantile insults to the nursery, kiddo. I wasn’t even talking to you.

  • sweekymom

    Wow! Just wow! Adults sure have changed since I was a kid…

  • Wicked Smilee

    Wow, you’re the bravest woman in the world for this. As a kid of 14, I was discouraged by authorities to take it to trial. Something I regret not doing, 30 yrs ago… Your story is inspirational.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    i have a feeling you know these little rapists or you have done what they’ve done. that has to be the reason why you are trying to shift blame on the victim. so she got drunk, big freakin deal. only douchebags like yourself are allowed to drink. what does raping a comatose female have to do with freedom of speech? they have freedom alright. freedom to criminate themselves. that is exactly what they did with this video openly admitting that the female is “dead” and they’re raping her. lets get the date rape drug out of the way because that seems to be a huge topic for you and there wasn’t evidence because she didn’t even know she was raped therefore didn’t get tested on time. this isn’t some manipulative lying female falsely claiming rape. there is evidence that she was actually raped through eye witnesses, pics and this video. so get over your females lie crap because this one didn’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    rape does happen and you never know when it will happen and it doesn’t happen to just drunk girls. it happens to every type of women and men, young, old, black, white, nun, school teacher, nurse. in the parking lot of a grocery store, jogging. at home and it doesn’t matter how a female is dressed. it’s the rapists fault. not the female just trying to live their lives. you’re a disgusting pig. you reap what you sow? you’re basically saying women deserve to be raped. you have a rapist mentality and i hope to god you don’t have any children, especially girls. if you don’t want a female to scream rape then keep your damn hands off of us!! you perverts!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    pay attention moron. you have no points because each time you try to “explain” yourself more you just make yourself sound like a bigger douchebag. just stop while you’re ahead. who the hell is talking about invincibilty. one thing right you said that nobody is safe. we’re all capable of being murdered, robbed, raped, run over, poisoned, etc. so should we all be holed up in our homes to avoid these things. she was stupid for getting drunk but she didn’t deserve to be treated the a piece of meat. do you even know this girl? why are you calling her a tramp and skank? i think you need to reread the story because those perverted boys were the ones acting like skanks. so you think that was the kind of attention she wanted? to be passed around and used and taken pics of? no girl wants that type of attention and for you to say that only speaks volumes of your sick twisted rapist mind.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    are you demented? you’re a sick fuck. what the fuck is wrong with you? get yourself castrated. we have enough psychopaths in this screwed up world. jerkoffs like you are the reason why perverted boys think they can do whatever they want. get yourself fixed right aways because all you’re gonna do is raise your sons to be sex offenders and raise your daughters to be drawn to assholes like you. don’t you ever make comments about a little girl. you have no morals, you have no conscience and no sympathy. you’re just plain pathetic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    you have nothing to say asshole because all you’re spewing is nonsense. everyone should be aware of their surroundings doesn’t give anyone a right to fuck with you!! if she goes to jail for underage drinking or driving drunk or being in public drunk then that would be her fault because she is causing those actions but when she is passed out and doesn’t know what the hell is going on and those perverts stick their fingers and little weewees in her then they’re the ones committing the crime. don’t act like your mr perfect because your very far from it. exactly you’re not sixteen and alot of sixteens year old boy and girls don’t think about their surrounding and just like those pervy boys didn’t think what they were doing would get them in trouble. if youre a grown ass man then act like it because you’re coming across as a whiny little immature bitch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    how is that okay to rape her? i’m sure those little horndogs have also sent pics of their junk as well so according to you they should be raped too? don’t forget those little fucks took nude pics of her and were showing them off. so they also were sending child porn to each other.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    lol who the hell wants to trap your ugly ignorant ass. some woman will have to be really messed up to want to be with you. i think i know why you’re a woman hater. were you rejected too many times? mommy didn’t love you and chose her abusive boyfriends over you? are u impotent and a hooker laughed at you? whatever the case maybe i find you to be sad and pathetic. don’t project your slut shaming and sexist views on us because obviously you’re idiotic rants are not working. do everyone a favor and get some mental help because you’re bat shit crazy and soon i think we’re gonna be seeing you in a dreamindemon article.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    you’re the jerk with the biggest chip on their shoulder than all of us!! what is up with you, man? where did all this hostility about rape come from? don’t say you don’t excuse because you were. instead of being pissed that these little shitheads raped a passedout girl that couldn’t defend herself and being angry that these shitheads put themselves in that position and others did nothing to stop it. you want to blame the victim for being drunk and at that party to begin with. i think most people believe she shouldn’t have gotten drunk but that is what teenagers do at a party. being drunk doesn’t equal rape. she chose to drink but they chose to gang rape and what they did is worse than her getting drunk. we should teach females to be cautious with their surroundings and we should also teach the boys not to take advantage of drunk girls or if they see a friend doing it to stop it right away. like i said before don’t want to be accused of rape then don’t do it!!!

  • http://twitter.com/MaleficentMiss Heavenly Dementia

    Id Like to choke these kids. :|

  • http://twitter.com/Suberec Suberec

    very possibly true — every day for 3 years

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I KNOW! What the fuck!?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    They metabolize into the body in 72 hours,however they can be detected in hair up to 14 days after

  • Justagirl

    Always the voice of reason! Marry me, Athena?

  • Justagirl

    Shes a tramp for lying, but hes granted freedom of speech? Okay, you’re just fucking with us. you cant really be this obtuse. Can you?

  • Justagirl

    Soooo James. You do realize that these pervos who took advantage of this little girl were all drunk, too? And they were underage? No doubt lying to their mommy & daddy about drinking? What do you think about them?

  • alphatroll

    This may be news to you, but not all women choose to have children at all. They’re not incubators.

    And seriously, assholes like you piss me off something awful. You make all us men look bad. I can’t tell for sure from your comments whether you’re actually one of the hateful sociopaths who get off on spreading vile garbage just to hurt others, or just a gullible dipshit who unwittingly spreads that refuse because you’re too dumb to tell the difference between a talented liar and an expert, but I’m starting to not care enough to give you the benefit of the doubt.

  • alphatroll

    HERE IS LOGIC:

    If this girl deserved to be raped because she went out on her own and got drunk and took risks, then James Dumas deserves to be beaten six ways from Sunday by an angry mob because he spews garbage and publicly and persistently advertises what a complete asshole he is.

    Lucky for you the law (and most people) don’t think the way you do.

  • alphatroll

    LIKE LIKE A HUNDRED TIMES LIKE.

  • alphatroll

    While I understand how revolting it is that these kids stood by and did nothing despite knowing what was happening, I think before we start expecting better we need to remember that even cops do the same sort of thing all the time. The “good cops” know perfectly well which of their colleagues are getting off on abusive power trips and worse, but hardly ever do or say a thing, because they are afraid of losing the support of their fellows. This is the same kind of thing. If we want to demand more out of children, we need to start by demanding more out of the people we entrust with protecting us.

  • Sam

    I was wrong about the drug, not about the effect. It’s not rohypnol but GHB; GHB leaves the body after 12 hours and would therefor have been detectable a day and a half later.

  • sweekymom

    So, if one of these football players had gotten blotto wasted and been toted from party to party in an unconscious state, all the while being violated by a bunch of “you sure got a purdy mouth” types, while others just stood around and watched, and took videos and pictures, would you feel the same way about the case? (My apologies, DDers, for the run-on sentence.)

  • Athena

    Polygamy is illegal in my state, but we did just legalize weed and gay marriage, so who knows… I may be in the position to take on extra spouses in the not too distant future. ;)

  • NoSkeletonsNGlassHouses

    I would pay damn good money to see that.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Just so you know…. I’m no longer going to reply to you. Ever. You aren’t worth the energy. Have a horrid life, asshole :)

  • Heather_Habilatory

    They’re male. They don’t need to be responsible for their actions.

    If I were men, I’d be fucking PISSED at James. See attached image for why.

  • Robbo

    I hope in the future when this guy has a family maybe even a daughter that people recognize him and come up to him and yell “Hey dude! How dead is she?!!” So he’ll be reminded what a P.O.S. he was. And his kids ask him why people are doing that. Well Stupidville? How dead is she? got anymore smartass remarks?

  • KKef

    Um. Your brain is most likely broken. In case you didn’t know. Maybe clarify for us what you meant?

  • KKef

    Nvm. Def. broken.

  • KKef

    How the fuck does a human comply while unconscious and vomiting?

  • KKef

    That means suffering alcohol poisoning for those unaware.

  • NoSkeletonsNGlassHouses

    “How is it that little children are so intelligent and men so stupid? It must be education that does it.”

  • alphatroll

    I certainly am. Sick bastards like him make us all look bad, even beyond just his implications that men somehow can’t help raping women who act “slutty”.

  • alphatroll

    Yes! I agree, we should just talk ABOUT him without actually responding (other than the obvious downvotes). Sick people like him don’t deserve to be part of the conversation.

  • alphatroll

    I nominate NoSkeletons as winner of the comment section. Suck it Dumbass, even your revered ancestor hates you.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Because he’s an misogynistic asshole. That’s why.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    And she ‘s a seaching for justification of her whorish ways cunt.

  • techsupp0rt

    lol, looks like Dumbass couldn’t take the heat and deactivated his FB profile. Aw, afraid of being held accountable by your peers for your ‘free speech’? Classic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    I like real women not dumb broads that think a cell phone is all the security they need.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    In our country we excuse female teachers who are banging their students at an alarming rate.

  • NoSkeletonsNGlassHouses

    I was pretty sure I’d like you just from your ‘women are not incubators’ comment, but recognizing Monsieur Dumas? Classy. Now I *know* I like you. Stay gold, Alpha, stay gold. ;-)

  • Alice89

    So they carried this poor girl, all the while assaulting her and no-one stepped in and said “hey this isn’t ok”? They took her clothes off and assaulted her and still no-one helped her? I’ve helped out fellow drinkers when I used to go to crazy uni parties and it never bothered me to get someone a glass of water, find a blanket for a passed out partygoer or even sit with someone and talk them – no matter how drunk I was myself. Many people have done this for me too.
    If I’d caught someone doing this to sleeping/passed out girl, I (and others) would’ve torn them a new one. If I knew people were filming or standing around watching it happen, they would’ve faced such scorn and backlash that they wouldn’t dare show their faces on campus the next day.
    People don’t look after each other these days and it makes me very sad :'(

  • Alice89

    Accessory after the fact, aiding and abetting, failure to report a crime could be applied here.

  • Mistress OfSubs

    Recommended reading, for those interested in why this case has gone nowhere: http://localleaks.blogs.ru/

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Written by a female that jumps to the wrong conclusions.such as yourself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Can you read,I said nothing of the sort,and fuck what you’re mad at anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    You’re both a couple of bitches,you’re not listening ,with this gaggle of squawking twats.fucking eunichs

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    How the fuck did I imply that.Go with the crowd ,bet you have sleeve tattoos and the whole deal fucking wannabe,my question to you is what group of guys turned you into a bitch?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Make sense moron,and I bet YOU won’t do it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    mY peers know me ,I have no mercy on stupidity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    lot of veiled threats of violence.That’s the problem with your generation ,tough guys on the laptop.Pathetic loser.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    That’s his opinion and he’s a coward,so has no credibility whatsoever.She looks clothed to me in the pic.What does this prove.I can do the same thing ,doesnt make it so.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    School.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Damn right I would.

  • alphatroll

    Which generation would that be, Mr. Know-It-All?

  • LeeMouse

    The blog you’re referring to is: http://prinniefied.com. It’s not the girl’s blog, it’s the blog of a woman who grew up in Steubenville. Knowing firsthand how the football team has been coddled and deified for years, she had no faith that justice would actually be served, so she began reporting on the case since it wasn’t getting much press, even locally. She was then sued for “defamation” by the parents of Cody Saltsman, who apparently have no problem with the vile tweets he published in which he mocked the girl (who was his ex and had apparently committed the sin of breaking up with him a few weeks before this happened, by the way). The judged ruled against a significant portion of their petition, and as part of the settlement, Saltsman was made to issue what turned out to be an extremely half-assed and poorly written apology. (Probably poorly written because Steubenville High has as many coaches as it has English teachers.)

    Seriously, if I’d ever tweeted something that vile, or even been in the vicinity of a crime like this and NOT tried to stop it, reported it, or even gone to my parents about it, my folks would have driven me down to juvie themselves. They most certainly wouldn’t have hired a lawyer to defend actions that are indefensible.

  • LeeMouse

    1. Tests were not conducted until days later, at which point any alleged “rape” drugs in her system would no longer be detectable. That’s why rohypnol is frequently used as a rape drug, because it is cleared out of the body comparatively quickly.

    2. Ohio statutes define rape as occuring “if the victim is too impaired to resist or consent,” and also specifies that rape includes “the insertion, however slight of any part of the body or any instrument,
    apparatus or other object into the vaginal or anal opening of another.
    Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete vaginal or
    anal intercourse.” So under Ohio law (which is all that really matters in the case, and certainly matters more than your uneducated opinion), it is, in fact, rape.

  • xoodloverx

    Just a question . . . If a female gets drunk, has sex and regrets it afterwards it’s rape because she’s not responsible for her actions, but the drunk guy is responsible for his actions?

  • FrikkenFrak

    Sociopaths….the whole lot of them.

  • Mistress OfSubs

    What????

  • LeaveMeBe

    A creeper!!! I was once a creeper, but you have me beat by about a year. :)

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    Ignore him.

  • LeaveMeBe

    So what? Since when does lying to your parents make being sexually battered an acceptable consequence? By your statement, I am assuming you know for a fact that the “boys” told their parents they were going to multiple parties to get drunk and sexually batter a girl, so that’s alright. I’ve read almost all of the comments attached to this story, and while I THINK I see where you were going with yours inititally, your delivery leaves something to be desired. The bottom line here is that the only people responsible for the criminal acts against this girl were the males who acted criminally. Period.

  • LeaveMeBe

    I don’t think anyone is missing your point, I just think they don’t agree with it and you riled them. If your point is “If she wasn’t there, this wouldn’t have happened.” OR “If she hadn’t been drinking and lied, this wouldn’t have happened.” then you could equate that to a bystander in a bank being killed during a robbery, too. “Oh, if he had only gone to the bank earlier/later or just gone through the drive through then he wouldn’t have been shot” so you would effectively be saying that we cannot hold the shooter to blame. Right? Are we on the same page here? Do you see WHY everyone is all worked up? When a crime is committed, the only person responsible for it is the criminal, never the victim.

  • LeaveMeBe

    You’re a bitch?!?!?!?! *shock*

  • LeaveMeBe

    You are coming across as someone who hates women and who believes that whatever criminally befalls a woman is her fault. Now, if you were lied on and dragged through the system due to a female lying about you, then your stance would be a little more understandable, still wrong, but understandable. However, you haven’t stated anything regarding that so we just have to assume you’re being an asshole. The fact that you think that since in your “neck of the woods” all the females are being taught to be aware of possible situations like this and that simply by talking about it you will actually prevent it from happening scares the ever-loving shit out of me. You can teach and talk and role-model it until your blue in the face but someone, somewhere is going to have to find out the hard way and shit like this will happen. Does it mean she deserved such a harsh lesson for lying and drinking? I just absolutely refuse to believe that is what you are saying in spite of the numerous comments showing me otherwise. I am flabbergasted.

  • LeaveMeBe

    So, you’re pissed because your girl’s sister lied to you about being a willing participant in a gang-bang and you were ready to do a shoot-out until you found out what a crock it was. Right? So now you have chosen to let one single experience color every other instance and you automatically assume the victim is lying. That is truly sad that you let your girl’s sister have so much power over you and your life. *smh*

  • CT

    When said female is so so trashed that she is unable to function. Pretty much.

  • CT

    He is a dumb ass. It’s OK. Step away.

  • CT

    Obtuse, that is a big word, don’t expect a correct answer.

  • Athena

    Has new evidence come into play? It says right off the bat that she was drugged, but unless new witness statements have emerged, that’s unsubstantiated conjecture.

  • CT

    My Dad is dead.

  • CT

    Do you cook? I would be willing to take applicants that cook – oh and take care of kids, that too.

  • CT

    I was going to try to stay out of this but your inability to use a comma properly is driving me crazy. While I may not agree with your ideology, you are entitled to your opinion. I see below you speak much of entitlement. I don’t really see what it had to do with what happened to this girl. I’m not following your point with that. My parents taught me to trust no one and for the most part I don’t. I own a gun and know how to shoot it. I am careful in my surroundings and do nothing that would make me a target. I can still be raped. So if I follow your logic, I would deserve it? Your Neanderthal opinion of women is truly scary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    sounds like what a rapist would say

  • xoodloverx

    it just doesn’t seem right that females can get drunk without being responsible for their actions (sex wise) but the just and even possibly more drunk guy is responsible for his actions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    oh really well if you’re such a tough guy then get yourself so wasted that you can’t talk, walk or defend yourself and have a bunch of horny bastards take advantage of you and use you like a blowup doll and take pics of the crime and brag about it then come back to us and let us know how you feel and if you’re gonna let them get away with it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    you’ve been saying that all throughout this thread you stupid moron!!! you’re telling women that we all should be afraid of leaving our homes because there’s a big bad rapist in every corner that are gonna jump us and that basically if we get drunk it’s our fault. you’re the most stupid human being and its actually comical watching everyone get pissed at you and you trying like a dumbass to defend yourself but you just keep getting worse and worse. i thought sexist meatheads like you were a myth but you’re real and that is funny but scary as hell at the same time because that means there are more morons like you in this world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    what peers? so there are more idiots like you? say it ain’t so.

  • Abroad

    Trust me, a man who was as drunk as this girl would not have been able to get it up, never mind stick it in anybody, willing or unwilling. She was reportedly out cold.

  • Athena

    Well, yes and no. We often hold victims responsible for their contributing behavior. “Man Accused of Intentionally Suffocating Girlfriend After Car Wreck” is a great and recent example. We’re talking about a dead teenage girl, and multiple commenters (perhaps myself included?) questioned the role she may have played in her fate. To quote one of my favorite commenters: “What a shame she won’t get the chance to finish growing up and develop some better fucking judgment.”

    The reality is, though, that when it comes to rape, people are violently opposed to the idea of comparative liability. Hell, I’ve gotten people nearly this riled up making some of the very same points James has without the use of foul language. For some reason, perhaps our twisted perspective of sexual crimes, we are generally frowned upon when we stop to ask how the victim may have prevented their situation.

    Somewhere in this thread, I used the “Robbing a House” analogy. I made the point that, even if you leave your doors unlocked, you don’t deserve to be robbed; that it wasn’t your fault. Still, I guarantee you, if I advertised on Facebook that I was going out of town, left my doors unlocked and came back to a ransacked house, there would be some people in my life calling me a moron for making my burglary happen… and they’d be right as well.

    The victim in this case displayed some horrifyingly poor judgment. And, yes, it can be said that, had she taken some basic safety precautions, this likely would not have
    happened. That doesn’t make it her fault, but we ALL have some responsibility when it comes to our own well-being. After all, we are the ones paying the ultimate price when something goes wrong. Putting yourself in the position to be taken advantage of does not justify the person who chooses to take advantage of you, but you are still responsible for the positions you put yourself in.

  • Buffettgirl

    AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Buffettgirl

    Wow! Evil much???

  • NoSkeletonsNGlassHouses

    #1 It’s ‘eunuchs.’

    #2 I have ovaries.
    #3 Even if alphatroll *was* a eunuch, he’d still be more of a man than you.

  • Buffettgirl

    Do you seriously think this way? I’ve never said this before, hell, I’ve never THOUGHT this before, but maybe you need to be sexually violated? Maybe you should be out for a relatively innocent night of clubbing with your friends and have your world turned upside down forever? Was her skirt too short? Nope, it went past her knees. Was her top too tight? Nope, she’s got a bit of a prudish streak and worked hard to “hide” her larger than average chest. Did she get so drunk she couldn’t remember who or where she was? Nope, she had 2.5 drinks and a normal sized dinner. Did two men rush her in the parking lot, pin her to her car and proceed to “digitally rape” her. (She’s 5’3″ and 110 lbs, each of them were over 6′ and over 240 lbs and football players at the college level) Yup. Because until they went to prison for their crime they believed the same vile, disgusting, hateful shit you do today… The big difference is that this incident was 20 years ago. What happened to you that you are such an unenlightened troll in this day and age?

  • newstarshipsmell

    On the other hand, your state just finally got around to making bestiality illegal, so there’s that.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Aw, shucks…

  • Buffettgirl

    Gosh really? I never got the chance to be that… Daddy died too early… Now what Mouth?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=718600192 Tim Bates

    Morons

  • xoodloverx

    I wasn’t talking about the girl in this case. I was talking in general.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Never happen .

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    This isn’t everyone to me but it is to you.I said you should take responsibility for your actions ,and you seem to think that everybody else will protect you .I find all of you hilarious because you’re just a fucking sewing circle of manhating twats,that think it is everyone elses job to protect you when you fuck up.Just like thre one who got on the internet posing nude and all that other crapo,then fucked her friends boyfriend .She got her asskicked ,figured she ruined her life and hung herself,her death was blamed on bullying.Give me a fuckin’ break.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    You must be joking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    No not me .You sound alot like rest of these hens….the voice of experience.Is this your group counciling for used and abused party girls .

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Good plan,you gutless fuck.

  • Athena

    Even in general, that’s not how it works. Rape convictions can be very hard to get due to the he said/she said nature of it. However, if the prosecution is able to prove that the woman was drunk beyond the ability to consent (incoherent or otherwise incapacitated), then it is considered rape for the same reason sex with a child is automatically considered rape… Neither are legally able to consent.

    It would be the very same going the other direction, it’s just much less common. Men’s units don’t tend to function under the level of inebriation required to be considered legally unable to consent. But there have been female-on-male convictions based on the possibility.

    No one gets to simply cry rape because they regret it. Yes, some people do and, in too many unfortunate situations, men go to prison as a result. But it’s not *supposed* to work that way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    If you say so, another internet badass.My mistake on the spelling ,doesn’t come up in my world as much as yours,Guaranteed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Were talking about one instance and you make it about a whole gender.Sounds like you have a histrionic personality.I bet noone wants to touch you,that’s the problem sweetheart ,your spread ain’t selling nomore.Maybe get back on your meds you sound delusional.Maybe you’re just a dopehead

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    ,The one that hides to talk shit

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    He’s better off.

  • Mistress OfSubs

    TY. :)

  • Mistress OfSubs

    Thanks. I’ll take that advice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    I hope you shoot better than you read ,because that is almost entirely incorrect.

  • Buffettgirl

    Probably, but not for the asinine reasons you’re thinking… You didn’t hurt me if that was your intention. You just succeeded in making yourself out to be an even bigger jackass than you already make yourself out to be… Keep ‘em coming, I can handle any shit you want to dish scumbag, you’ll never be as smart as I am… you’ve already more than proven that…

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    You have no idea,I made one statement and was attacked so now it on!!This started 3 days ago.Is that a steel pot?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Hi.

  • CT

    Well, you proved me right with the comma comment so when you get a chance how about stopping by and visit me and we can work on the rest. I’m also quite handy with a crowbar.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Go ahead that seems to be how it works nowadays,my friends are actual friends and know what’s true.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    yeah .You sound like a fuckin genius,just saying that ruins your credibility.I don’t give a shit about your father.I’m a scumbag,maybe God didn’t want him to see what a cum dumster you would turn into,so he took him out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    If you’ve never killed anyone.It’s a lot more difficult than you think ,especially with no training .I don’t hit females however ,come at me with a crowbar,that would be fun

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    i wouldn’t call you a man because real men do not act like you. you’re a poor excuse of a human being. everyone should take responsibity. that is what we want from the rapists. all she did was get drunk. that’s her only responsibilty. after that it’s the rapists fault. she didn’t asked to be raped, didn’t put a sign on herself to get raped, didn’t brag about it afterwards. the rapists commited a crime, she didn’t . get that through your dumb hard headed skull. you’re not only a woman hater but a man hater as well because you’re making men sound like a bunch of sex crazed maniacs that can’t control their little penises. a man even stood up to you in this thread and you have the nerve to call him a bitch. well, the only true bitch is YOU!! you’re a disgrace to men everywhere. you’re a fuckin twat yourself for trying to bring up amanda todd to justify your dumb reasons for being an idiot. obviously you don’t know anything about that case either because if you did then you would know that a pedophile tricked her into posing for those nudes and used them against her and spread them all over the internet. that is why bullies like you attacked her. stop blaming the victims and blame the assholes like you that think it’s okay to bully, rape and commit crimes against others.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Yeah, I’m starting to have some issues with the victim supporters. I have no doubts in my mind that this girl was sexually assaulted — simply from the number of witnesses who testified it happened.

    But there is no need to make this girl into some kind of saint who was a responsible girl who was obviously duped. She got too drunk at a party and passed out… it happens all the time and we all know it. If, as a teen yourself, you haven’t been this girl before you have surely seen her before.

    I get that some idiots feel that because she did this, she deserved what happened to her — but come on, quit trying to win those people over. Taking away her drinking illegally or irresponsibly takes away from another lesson that can be taking away from this entire incident, and that lesson shouldn’t be to make sure you pour your own drinks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    lol yeah that is the problem. i don’t get laid enough and that is why you’re such a complete moron. if that is the case then from your lame ass logic. that means you’re still a virgin. you’re so damn disgusting that not even a blind deaf mute would even let you touch their boob. you’ve been rejected so many times and that is why you’re such a big bitter bitch. stop blaming women for your misfortunes and lack of game. you’re a pathetic loser deal with it. maybe some poor desperate woman will take pity on you. until then i guess you have to stick with your blowup doll and bet even the doll can’t stand you either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    that means you too, asshole

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    don’t get too cocky, asshole. god will come after you soon enough. don’t think you’re anyone special. you’re just a waste of space.

  • Buffettgirl

    Hey, Oxygen Waster, you just thoroughly proved my point! Go ahead, call me a “cum dumpster” it only makes you look moronic to anyone that knows me… in fact my boss just fell off of his chair laughing at that one… I’m 42, 5’3″, 110 lbs and having been compared to Sandra Bullock on about 50 occasions, I’m pretty sure I’m not too freaking hideous to look at. That being said, let’s clarify what you mean by “cum dumpster.” (which I’m spelling correctly, you Idiot Boy did not) If you mean that I’ll let anyone dump a load in me than you are indeed the court jester you come across as. I’ve been with THREE men in my life, all of them long term (no one-nighters for this girl thank you very much) I have no kids, either in or out of wedlock. Oh, and four undergraduate degrees and two master’s degrees… Leave God out of your discussions, you obviously have no relationship with him if you can be as ugly as you have been on this thread. You might want to just shut the fuck up now before you look more retarded than you do right now…

    PS: I know I shouldn’t brag about my smarts, but it’s fun to see imbeciles like you react to it…

  • newstarshipsmell

    Are you fucking joking? This guy is like, living proof that there is no God.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Yeah that’s right you got me ,Why do you hate men so much is it because your whore of a mother’s botfriend used to come see you after he took care of her drunk ass.Or are you just mad at yourself for liking it and projecting it on us.I’ve had more women than I can remember ,and none of them were pathetic man hating ,washed up bitches like you.That’s why you make your dog do ,what no man ever would .You bloody ,runny cunt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    TRICKED her to pose nude ,jesus christ you will excuse anything wona Damsel in ditress complex.Fuck you ,and no man stood up to me ,he’s your liitle bitch that goes along with you just to fit in.Fuck you .

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    My name is right there not hiding a thing ,idiot.

  • Athena

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. We need to look at the big picture, here, and extract as many lessons as possible. This girl is a victim, no doubt. But re-writing the history of this situation to make her victimhood more sympathetic doesn’t actually help anyone. In fact, it’s quite counterproductive.

  • Athena

    That just makes us officially cooler than Nevada.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    She’s a skank too.You can be anything you want here,doesn’t make it true and even if it is so,if you’re so fucking intelligent why are you here and at work too.I’ve been reading this shit for years ,posted once and caused all this .:)

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Absolutely hilarious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Been in three different wars cuntface and haven’t got a scratch,we used to kill everybody.He saw me through that.I got no worries about fucking with you bitches.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjames James Dumas

    Fuck you oldbikeseat smeller you are a waste of fucking humanity.

  • Athena

    Hello, anonymous guest commenter.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I’ve been in a monogamous long-term, happy, healthy relationship for six years. You’d have better luck finding a whore in a convent.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I’m moving on now:) Come with me!

  • Buffettgirl

    It’s slow at work this time of year… did I not say that my boss fell off of his chair laughing at your obsuridty? Are you concerned for me? Don’t be, I’m CLEARLY smart enough to do this at work and have permission to do so… Oh, and by the way, I’m at home with my man now and I have MUCH better things to do right now than deal with you any more tonight. If I deem your response worthy, I’ll get back to you tomorrow…

  • LeaveMeBe

    OK, fine. You knew what I meant but I get that I was a nice platform to stand on for further clarification. I didn’t get the word I was looking for. The only one at FAULT is the criminal, not the victim. Sometimes I want to kiss you, other times I want to kick you. Will you get off my back so I can stand up now? :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    yeah many people do get passed out and drunk. the point is nobody gets to be abused because of it. i am tired of people putting down the drunk girl instead of the animals that think it’s fun time with a “dead girl”. i’ve been drunk many times and never once did i think i might get raped. there is a female, male, child and even an animal that are raped everyday and every second but yet when we hear stories of a drunk girl getting raped at a party right away the judgements are on the female. that is wrong no matter how you spin it. by the way, why have my posts been deleted? that james dumbass person has said alot of disturbing and sick stuff and even sexualized someones 6 year old daughter but my comments get deleted? also this is site has alot of disturbing content and my comments really shouldn’t offend anyone only the person that is pissing me off which is that douche james .

  • http://www.facebook.com/crystal.clear.50999405 Crystal Clear

    using the drinking and other things she might’ve done wrong in her life doesn’t help either and it doesn’t and shouldn’t excuse the rapists who are the real criminals.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Not once did I say it excuses her attackers. If you got that out of what I typed, then I suggest you take some reading comprehension classes, pronto.

    And yes, using the drinking and other things this girl did in her life is helpful. Pretending this girl did not drink herself into a stupor, and not addressing that fact, is a missed opportunity to teach other teen girls the worst case scenario of losing your capacities while among a group of your peers.

  • Sarah Ochocki

    I have a question that is in NO WAY intended to be diminutive of the seriousness of the situation, nor insensitive to what this girl is going through right now: Isn’t this technically sexual assault, not actual rape?, considering that according to the story his genitalia never went inside her? I mean, I’m not a lawyer. I really don’t know. I know that someone is going to say it doesn’t matter, that violation is violation, but it sort of does matter. Penetrating someone with your fingers doesn’t have the same implications as penetrating them with your genitalia.

  • Sam

    Sorry, i’m too lazy to look it up but somewhere in this thread somebody quotes the Ohio law regarding rape, which basically means “penetration by any means”. So, in the eyes of Ohio law, finger equals dick.

  • Athena

    Thank you.

  • alphatroll

    Wait, what happened there? Oh well…

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Huh? What? What are you talking about, man!?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=736546181 Michael Heldman

    If you do, can you send me the video?

  • alphatroll

    Missing comments… what’s up with that?

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Someone got blocked.

  • CT

    I got deleted!

  • Athena

    People on both sides were getting too personal, and it seems just about everyone stopped discussing the actual topic in favor of flame-throwing. It’s gotten threads shut down before, so, to avoid losing the thread entirely, I did some pruning. I tried to limit it to only that which was exceptionally inflammatory but, admittedly, a couple of good posts were lost.

  • NoSkeletonsNGlassHouses

    I wanna know why I got deleted, too. One of my comments was a quote by Alexandre Dumas for Christ’s sake!

  • Athena

    When I delete inflammatory posts, the system automatically deletes any responses to it. There were some casualties. Don’t take it personally. :)

  • Buffettgirl

    Just saw this post, brilliant, absolutely BRILLIANT! Well done!!!

  • newstarshipsmell

    Was it good for you?

  • CT

    Oddly enough, yes. I enjoyed it a lot. Bad girl, rrrrrr.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lorraine.nation.3 Lorraine Nation

    This obviously spoiled little nutcase said he wouldn’t care if it was his daughter dead and raped. He needs professional help. Why were these kids out partying anyway? Who supplied the booze to 16 yr olds? Their idiot parents?

  • http://www.facebook.com/lorraine.nation.3 Lorraine Nation

    she was passed out. You can’t consent when passed out. She was 16, no 16 yr old girl wants to have sex in a crowd. What is wrong with you?

  • sweekymom

    A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

  • Minerva

    I’m hoping for him to get sued for everything he has and everything he will in the future.

    Also I hope his parents have to pay something, somehow I doubt he was raised with those “values” all by himself. Considering how the other boys even seem to call him out on his behavior.

  • Minerva

    Well when we have 11 year olds raped in TX and the much older group of men are being portrayed as the “victims” and the neighbors being interviewed say it was her fault for wearing makeup and that the town is dealing with it their own way. (By own way they mean have weekend seminars for young girls to learn “self esteem”, because obviously it was the little girls fault.

    We also have “Christian” politicians who call themselves moral men and say abortion is wrong in all cases even rape and incest. Then when a reporter pushes and asks “what if it was your daughter…” And he says his family “lived through something like that” and when his daughter found out she as “pregnant she chose life. She knew my beliefs and fortunately I didn’t need to … She chose the way I thought. Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t rape.” So according to Tom Smith you better do as he says or else…

    When asked to clarify what was similar to becoming pregnant from a rape, he responded “having a baby out of wedlock” Duh, how did I not see that coming from this super holy moral Christian man..? According to him, however, “put yourself in the fathers position, yes it is similar to rape.”

    Until people stop using religion and politics to continue to treat women as a commodity to be traded the men will always come out the “victim” tricked by the “seductress” who “had it coming” and treated like property who after being raped has lost her value.

  • http://twitter.com/3tsand2ms Terry G. McClinton

    I’m a feminist and really…that’s what you got from this? It certainly comes back to the way that women are perceived…but some goofy preacher declaring abortion is never Justified as being the root of the problem? Hardly!
    What about prevalent pornography? How about pop culture? More importantly, what about HOW their parents bring them up? Some looney espouses ridiculous views on abortion…I think 95% realize how stupid that is….it has nothing to do with that and even less to do with God/ Jesus.

  • http://twitter.com/3tsand2ms Terry G. McClinton

    I feel ya brother. Its called empathy right? Is it taught or is it a given? How on Earth could other girls watch this and do NOTHING? Read the NYT story on it and really SMH then! Go ahead Brittany Spears…sing us another “love song” half naked won’t you? No wonder women are viewed as appropriate equipment to help you get your jollies off and not much else.

  • http://twitter.com/3tsand2ms Terry G. McClinton

    It ain’t just.the sports towns…its YOUR town and MY town. It’s the computer age….kids have no feeling anymore…that box is their conscience.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I can’t agree with you on that. These kids don’t act any different than drunk teens throughout the ages. Drunk girl being sexually assaulted is new news to you? The only difference between then and now is that back then, no one was there giving a play-by-play to the entire world as events happened, and taking pictures for proof.

    As for “sports towns,” I wasn’t referring to drunk teens doing really stupid shit, I was talking about town officials actively covering up for the teens’ really stupid shit.

  • Minerva

    I expect it from pop culture. But do we expect victim blaming and rationales being done by politicians and ministers? Hell, Hugh Hefner gives women more respect then what was seen this last election cycle. Comparing out of wedlock pregnancy to rape because its equally embarrassing to the father? That’s the looming view. Or how about Bill O’Reilly calling Fluke a slut because she spoke to Congress about birth control?

    This is middle aged to older white men who consider themselves religious. So where did this kid get that attitude that rape is okay since she was drinking and passed out? Or that its funny to piss on a girl because she was drinking? Or is funny to stick bottles and other objects in the girls genatalia because she if she didn’t want it to happen she shouldn’t have put herself in that situation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.p.davis.1 Steve Paige Davis

    is anyone else grossed out that he spends almost the entire video playing with himself while laughing about a girl being raped? Its clear the alcohol has made him disinhibited because he is behaving exactly like one would expect a 18 year old psychopath to behave-laughing and being sexually aroused by someone else being sexually assaulted. Parents of the year must have raised this one!

  • Twisted1

    Victim blaming, I STILL to this day have family members who say I was over affectionate as a child (I.e. I liked to cuddle) as if that justified me being molested by a family member starting at age 5. My response the last time this was stated (2 yrs ago). “I could have sat in his lap buck naked and said take me now, and he still would have been at fault because he was a adult and I was freakin 5″.

  • Twisted1

    I used this case to open up a discussion with both my teens. One a little more then the other due to age. My daughter is 17, my son 13. My daughter made a great point. She said if she saw this she would have helped her. How can another female allow that to happen. My son has been taught to respect and protect women. Damn parents need to take some time to instill values into their kids.

  • AliceinChainsman =]

    drop him off in a Muslim country..sit back and laugh