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Grandmother Kills Self, Three Grandchildren

November 14, 2012 at 11:55 am by  

TOLEDO, OH – Police say a woman, her son, and three of her young grandchildren were found dead inside a garage in an apparent murder suicide.

I wanted to post this yesterday, but needed a little more information regarding the motive. The bodies were discovered after 60-year-old Randy Ford returned home from work on Monday and found disturbing notes written by his wife, 56-year-old Sandy Ford, his 32-year-old son, and his three grandchildren.

Randy and Sandy had been caring for three of their grandchildren for the last few years after their mother, Mandy Hayes, asked her mom for help because a fourth child, a 9-year-old boy, was exhibiting “significant behavior problems.” Mandy and her husband felt the kids would be in a safer environment living with their grandparents.

Unable to find his family, a distraught Randy called police after finding the garage had been barricaded shut from the inside and he could not get in. Rescue crew arrived and used a sledgehammer to bash in the garage door. Once inside, they found a truck running with two hoses leading from the exhaust into the back windows of a Honda Civic that contained the dead bodies of Sandy and her 32-year-old son, Andy, along with Sandy’s three grandchildren —  5-year-old Madalyn Hayes, 6-year-old Logan, and 10-year-old Paige.

As for why Sandy and her son would decide to kill themselves along with the three children, it looks like a custody dispute was the root cause. Mandy wanted her children back home with her and within the last week, had taken the children out of her mother’s home and had them back living with her and her husband.

There’s not a lot of specifics regarding the arrangement Mandy initially made with her mother, or if the courts were even involved, but police had been out to Sandy’s home twice last week; once for a do­mes­tic vi­o­lence re­port be­tween Sandy and her daughter, and again for a cus­tody ex­change. Obviously, for reasons that have yet to be revealed entirely, Sandy did not want her grandchildren back under Mandy’s roof.

She was so against it, she and her son planned the murder-suicide in advance. They picked the children up from school that morning after their mother had dropped them off and brought them to Sandy’s home. The letters Randy would later find were written, some by the children, and they all went inside the garage were Sandy and Andy had disabled the garage door opener, barricaded the entrances, and nailed plywood over the windows.

Sandy, Andy, and the three children would climb into the backseat of the car and place two dogs and a cat in the front seat. They would all would eventually succumb to the deadly fumes. If there is any consolation at all to this story, it would be that the children’s deaths were not painful and police say it doesn’t look as if the kids were forced into the car.

“There’s years and years of experience here [at the Toledo Police Department], and we’ve been at a complete loss as to how you can have two adults conspire to kill three children,” Toledo police Sgt. Tim Noble said. “It’s really hard to comprehend.”

I really, really want to know what the hell was happening with that 9-year-old that led Sandy and her son to believe killing herself and the children was a better alternative than letting them live with their mother.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/karrasmithhammonds Kelly Hammonds

    Oh, I am bawling here, completely bawling. There is some horrible shit posted on this site but this is just fucking sad. God, it’s just too much.

  • beatlechick

    Randy, Sandy, Andy, Mandy. They all went insane because of the rhyming?

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    O Holy Shit. That breaks my heart… so does a family of Randy, Sandy, Mandy and Andy… but killing 3 children??? I hate this site… more and more… but I can stay the fuck away =(

  • chikonanklemonitor

    dang they went HAM, they even took the pets.. whathafuk

  • Andyman

    The order of operations is 1) kill self. Then 2) kill everyone else. Fuckers did it wrong AGAIN. If hell does exist, I hope you all enjoy it.

  • daMonBrooks

    I read the headline a few days ago, I absolutely assumed the offender was a male and the other was a wife/girlfriend as the headlines only mentioned custody dispute and murder suicide. Awful story with tons of details to come I’m sure. I wonder would would cause a grown man to go along with that plan.

  • daMonBrooks

    Yeah, the I feel awful for everyone, though what sticks in my head is the grandfathers quiet home…… Doesn’t even have the pets to add life to the home.

  • buhbam

    Crazy fucking old bitch. I guess what she says goes, or else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=534902588 Meli Machiavelli

    Kill everyone, including the pets … because of custody battle?

    … I need to know what those notes said and what the hell was going on with the 9 year old who just lost all of his siblings.

  • Wicked Smilee

    a family of Randy, Sandy, Mandy and Andy aint dandy? What lf they were eye candy and made ya randy?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumps.klown Dumps Klown

    feel bad for the children and the pets………… oh and the grandfather. But thats all.

  • Sam

    I need help. All I can think is which of the pets was driving.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    Given that this was the grandmonster’s choice, I imagine she was given some sort of aid or child support for taking care of the children. If they went back to their mother, the money would most likely be going to their mother instead of her.

    I hope that Heaven exists for the grandkids. As for the grandmonster and her conspirator spawn, if anyone deserved Hell, these two would be on the list. I don’t give a shit if the kids’ mom was a raging druggie on a bender and married to the Wilt Chamberlain of pedophiles–those kids did NOT deserve to die, and she did NOT have the right to steal their lives and their futures from them.

  • Evan Oswald

    how did they convince the kids to get in the car willingly? How was the 32 y.o. man convinced to go along with this plot – what was his motive? Also, I’d like more details about the notes — were some of the really written by the kids, voluntarily?

  • daMonBrooks

    (off topic)
    For whatever reason, I feel like i have a stalking downvoter. Whatever gets you off I suppose.

  • ShelbySP

    All i can think is, Damn, that is one big ass Honda civic. Two adults, three kids, and three pets?Jesus.

  • http://www.truecrimereport.com CallMeMister

    Even with additional details, this one still doesn’t add up. There’s more to this than we know so far. Hopefully we’ll get a clearer picture in the coming weeks. It’s really baffling.

    As an aside, it seems that the behavioral problems exhibited by the 9-year old boy may run in the family. Just a whole mess of crazy involved here.

  • OutOfBubbleGum

    I guess we will never know how many times they needed to stop to let the children use the bathroom.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    I keep imagining those kids sitting there in the back of that car, not quite understanding what the hell is going on, and it scares me. I am going to make a wild guess here and assume that it takes a bit longer than 5 minutes for the fumes to kill, which makes the whole situation all the more scarier.

  • Stina

    Why did this crazy bitch have to take the dogs and the cat with? That’s the real loss here. What a heartless cunt!

  • Sam

    Apparantly so big, that they thought it prudent to use the bigger truck sitting beside the Honda to fill the car with fumes. Silly. That many souls in a tiny Honda – the air would have run out soon enough, why did they think the Honda’s fumes weren’t going to be enough?

  • tkaz

    If there was no abuse…it sounds like Grandmother Sandy was controlling. I mean, she got her grown son to go with the plan. How do you go on knowing your mother loved you so little she robbed you of your kids forever, to leave you with that pain? And Randy….I don’t know where he stands but how can this family ever recover?
    As a mother I’d do all I could to give my child the TOOLS to be a better parent.

  • come_and_see

    I can understand mom being nuts, but how does she convince her 32 year old son to go along with it and not her husband?

  • tkaz

    It happens to the best of us. The Clown thread was my stalker.

  • brandi

    SHHHHH…. they’ll hear you …

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Only if they served me Brandy… and he’d have to be handy :)

  • LeaveMeBe

    You pass out fairly quickly.

  • LeaveMeBe

    This is honestly one of the most fucked up things I ever read on here, and I’ve read a lot of fucked up things. I think what makes this so different is that the 32 year old son not only helped his mom with this but suicided, too.(Killing the animals is also rare.) It almost makes me wonder if the bio mom took her other kids back after finding something out about her brother and grandma couldn’t take it/didn’t believe it so in some fucked up way they decided this was the best recourse to “protect” the children. I hope they uncover more details and share them, not that it will make anymore sense. I feel awful for the poor father/grandfather/dad and the parents.

  • derae

    I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the kids were drugged. At least the older ones. I can’t imagine that they didn’t suspect what was going on. I don’t know…But I can’t believe that a grandparent or a parent can do something like this, it’s horrific.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    But isn’t there a period of time when you can’t move but are still agile in your brain department? Imagine being a child and to have to go through that. I really hope that before getting stuffed into that car those kids were already asleep- pills for example.

  • Twisted1

    It said the kids left a note. I wonder if they kinda knew what was coming. I bet Grandmonster said lets write a note to mommy telling her we will meet her in heaven so we can all be together. (Sick part is I could see my own mother doing something like this to pay me back for some conceived slight, its why the crazy witch is barred from my life).

  • Twisted1

    As I said I can see my mom doing this. She has had us write notes to guilt others in the past. This is what I bet happened. She tells the kids they are going to take a trip to heaven and fly thru the clouds. She tells them to write a note so that mommy and grandpa know where to find us. She tells them this way they can be together forever. Which is why they took the pets because the kids wanted them to go to heaven with them. Damn it now I am crying.

  • Evangelos

    Wow, what an asshole thing to say as well as super inappropriate… Have an upvote ;) Would give another if I could for the milk that sprayed out of my nose and onto the screen.

  • ShelbySP

    Obviously, logic and reasoning are not strong suits in this family.

  • LeaveMeBe

    I’ve never been through it but my brother is a fireman and he said the fact that they were in an enclosed vehicle means the CO saturated the enviornment quickly and that they fell unconcious fast and death probably occurred within minutes. Like you, though, I really hope the kids were already out of it. :(

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1106642961 Alice Hennen

    I think cars should be designed so that the engine cuts out after a certain amount of time if it’s running while the handbrake/park gear is engaged. It would prevent a whole heap of suicides by CO poisoning.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1106642961 Alice Hennen

    Wonder if granny had a life insurance policy and the son was a beneficiary? Most policies don’t cover suicide within the first 12 months but after that…

  • wickerman

    I joined this site just to post on this story. The whole situation makes little
    sense. While it is possible the grandmother had such mental control over
    her adult son to coerce him to kill kids and himself…I tend to think a
    more plausible theory is that he abused those kids sexually, and the
    grandmother feared once they returned to the biological mother they
    would tell her and thereby implicate the son. Being the loving mother
    that she is, Sandy Ford elected to wipe them all out in one act, saving
    the one thing that would be saved by this act – her son’s reputation.

  • PureDrivenSnow

    OK I had to mess with you and downvoted this. But I promise, I haven’t downvoted any of your other posts :)

  • PureDrivenSnow

    No, you lose consciousness without knowing what hit you. That’s why gas heaters give me the creeps. One of my teachers died from carbon monoxide poisoning in her sleep. It happens more than you’d like to think.

  • Heather4877

    Perhaps to make the kids more “comfortable” about the situation so they wouldn’t struggle?

  • Heather4877

    You’d think more suicides would occur by this method, as opposed to, say, starting yourself on fire at a gas station?

    http://www.dreamindemon.com/2012/06/27/woman-commits-suicide-setting-fire-gas-station/

  • http://www.krashthrills.wordpress.com/ Anthony Mandich

    Deadly serious…..Satan is responsible for this.

  • http://www.krashthrills.wordpress.com/ Anthony Mandich

    There is just no possible way to justify or defend their deranged actions. None. Therefore conclusion is Satan.

  • Clyde The Dog

    I didn’t go to the link, but now I have the “gas fight” scene from “Zoolander” running thru my mind.

  • TraumaNurse85

    Jesus, that’s fucked. This reminds me of the Caroline Young case…

    http://crime.about.com/od/female_offenders/a/If-She-Could-Not-Have-Them-Nobody-Could.htm

    “Carolina Young was convicted in 1993 of murdering her two grandchildren
    because she learned she had lost a custody battle with the children’s
    father.

    Young was a 51-year-old grandmother who received custody of her
    daughter’s children after she was deemed to be unfit and was sent jail
    for drugs and prostitution.

    When the father of the children learned of their existence after being
    informed that he owed $12,000 in back child support, he petitioned the
    courts for custody of the children and received it. On the day that he
    arrived in the Bay Area to pick up his 6-year-old son, Darin Torres,
    Young cut the boy’s throat, killing him, then slashed his sister,
    Dai-Zshia Torres, 4, to death.

    On the day that she killed the children she wrote them a note saying in
    part, “I am a very angry and vengeful person. An unhappy spirit now on a
    rampage to get even with all that hurt me and mine.””

  • JohnQknowitall

    My guess is that there was a lot of talk about going to heaven before the murders took place. I am really curious about the whole custody mess.

  • bethied

    I agree… I think Grandma Sandy has control issues. For some reason she did not want to give those kids up. So bizarre, this is one of those stories that just makes me wanna tear my hair out because WTF, WHY?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1106642961 Alice Hennen

    There was a case here not too long ago where a woman lost her two kids to a non-flued gas heater. Her house was all shut up, being in the middle of winter, limited oxygen for the gas to completely combust – found the kids dead in their beds :'(

  • Sam

    “Are we there yet?”

  • OutOfBubbleGum

    Thankfully, it wasn’t a Ground Hog. Just ask Bill Murray what happens when you let one of them take the wheel.

  • joshua

    was the son retarded? How do you let your mother convince you to kill yourself and your nieces and nephew?

  • LeaveMeBe

    No shit. Some people are just attention whores until the end, aren’t they?

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I have one, too. It’s super cute.

  • Twisted1

    I think grandma may have forgotten about the suicide/murder clause in regards to getting in to heaven. Always read the small print.

  • DEADfairie

    WTF? Talk about a mind blow. So she felt the children were better off dead than to live with their mother? That is just crazy, wth was up with that 9 year old? Nothing could have been that horrible that they felt this was the only solution. I want to know what was in the letters….

  • Chinchillazilla

    This is how I would kill myself if I wanted out, I think. At least they probably didn’t suffer. But what a horrible situation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cindy-Crawford/13964421 Cindy Crawford

    I am wondering if the 9-year-old was a dangerous pyschopathic kid that had a history of hurting, sexually abusing, or torturing the other kids (yes, there are 9-year-olds capable of anything but remorse!) and Sandy did not want those kids under the same roof with him……I really want to know the contents of those letters…..

  • JGo555

    I want to hope this is was only solution.

  • Gigi

    I hate to say it but that’s what I immediately thought.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000505990543 Jim Powell

    Why do people want to take others with them when they commit suicide? Why not just an old fashioned hanging in the closet.? Those kids didn’t have a say in the matter and I’m guessing if they knew what was coming they would have run like hell.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JennyLane1031 Jennifer N Ryan Lane

    the grandma might have been one of those over bearing controlling know it all grandmothers that thought she knew “best”, what a cunt to take their lives, if she had any fears she could have done it the legal way and had the courts involved, her doing this says to me she wanted control.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1226226005 Krystal Roberts

    I totally thought your comment said, “Deadly serious……Santa is responsible for this.” I sat here and read it then read it again, scratching my head, before my husband goes, “Krystal, what are you looking at that is causing you to make such a face?” I’m, like, this guy just blamed Santa for what that crazy ass grandma did and, for the life of me, I can’t figure out why! *facepalm* Lmao!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anna-Hall-Grillot/100000054600337 Anna Hall Grillot

    But then I would have to keep walking outside to warm up my car….

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