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Woman Arrested After Giving Her 11 Year Old Daughter A TattooHavelock, NC – A 30-year-old woman in North Carolina was arrested after it was discovered she gave her 11-year-old daughter a heart tattoo on her shoulder.

Odessa Clay was charged in late September with tattooing a person under the age of 18 after police learned of the tattoo. Clay admitted to giving her daughter the tattoo late last year because she says,  ”she asked me to do it.”

Clay, who sports quite a few tattoos of her own, as evident by her mugshot, was unapologetic when describing ho she used her own tools and numbed her daughter’s arm before placing the permanent heart on her pre-teen daughter’s shoulder. But it’s not like she was a complete moron. “I didn’t fill it in,” she said.

Clay says she thought tattoos were like like ear-piercings in that they were perfectly legal for 11-year-olds as long as the parent gave consent. She also stopped breathing through her mouth long enough to add that she believes her ex in-law reported the tattoo in retaliation after she filed a complaint against her daughter’s paternal grandfather.

I know it may shock you to learn that someone as bright as Clay has a criminal history but it’s true. She has past charges that include larceny, possession of drug paraphernalia and possession of stolen goods.

I’m sure this latest charge, which she will answer to in court next month, will really help round out that LinkedIn profile of hers. In it, she describes herself as an “Independent Beauty Consultant and Entreprener.” I have no idea what an Entreprener is, but I’m guessing it has something to do with putting lipstick on pigs.

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  • curiousalways

    It’s nice that we live in America and everyone is allowed to have their own view of what “beauty” is to them, because I’m thinking around here she wouldn’t make a lot of money in her current profession. I am, however, fired up I get to friend her on linked in-bet that will add a little excitement to what I consider a totally useless business tool.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    I live in NC too, and I also gave my daughter a tattoo before she was 18. Yeah, my ex called and reported it and I did go to the police station on my own to talk to them. I didn’t get charged with anything. When the detective asked to see the tattoo on my daughter’s shoulder…he actually complimented me on my good work :) Maybe her past criminal history is why she got in trouble and I didn’t.

  • Evan Oswald

    classy!

  • JGo555

    I also snorted some coke but it’s ok cause I’m congested. DUMB TWIT.

  • Sam

    Let’s forget about the obvious lack in common sense for a minute – don’t you if you want to operate as a tattoo artist have to know about those pesky little things called, i don’t know – rules?

  • Gee

    Just curious, What is your reason for daughter to have a Tattoo before she was 18?

  • Athena

    …and here I thought there was nothing that screams, “My parents are trashy!” like an infant with pierced ears. “Welcome into the world, my precious baby! I will now test your under-developed immune system with some totally unnecessary and cosmetic mutilation that is inherently prone to infection due to its location because I think it’s ‘cute’.”

    Actually, when I put it that way, I still think it’s worse to pierce an infant’s ears. This mom is definitely trailer park royalty, though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mmp.n.jmm Mary Pop Pins

    I had my daughters ears pierced because I was tired of assholes calling her a boy, actually.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rochell-Arnold/100000587657456 Rochell Arnold

    My daughter had pierced ears as a baby as did I….now the people who litter my gene pool ARE trash but I tend to think that I am not. Like Mary Pop Pins (cute name btw, movie was adorable) I got tired of assholes referring to her as a boy even though she was dressed fully in pink with a little pink headband. Judge me if you may but I would never adorn my child with a tattoo because I am not stupid as fuck. Just sayin’

  • Athena

    You’re right, ladies. I’m sorry. That’s a much better reason.

  • newstarshipsmell

    You couldn’t just put some lipstick on her?

  • newstarshipsmell

    Hahaha, Athena, only an hour and you’ve already offended four moms. Congratulations on a job well done, but I can only counteract one of them.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    Oh, I hate that! And I see so many of them where I live- with babies having massive hoops earrings or drop like earrings. I always think that it’s a massive safety hazard, with babies liking to pull on things and so.

  • Asa Bjork

    what a fucking moron “Clay says she thought tattoos were like like ear-piercings in that they
    were perfectly legal for 11-year-olds as long as the parent gave consent” this statement smells of ignorance. First of all, ear piercings are not compatible with tattoos, second, that poor child will be branded for the rest of her life with her mother’s stupid decisions. Fuck her. Excuse my language :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/HamsterNinjaofDOOM Alecia Hendricks

    I just don’t like the idea of stabbing holes in people that have no say. It hurts, there’s a risk however minor of infection, and it’s just not necessary. I’m not going to condemn you as a parent for it but I don’t like it.

    I mean, if someone way bigger than you held you down and shoved needles through your ears, you would be filing assault charges.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HamsterNinjaofDOOM Alecia Hendricks

    You’re aware that parents are supposed to be the voice of reason right? I have nothing against tattoos, but it’s something that should be given way more thought and consideration than a kid that young can manage.

  • JohnQknowitall

    She is an independent beauty consultant with Mary Kay Cosmetics. Wouldn’t a little makeup have been a better choice? Oh yeah: she doesn’t make good choices.

  • Athena

    These moms’ reactions are driven by the same personality trait that drove them to poke their babies with holes because a handful of drooling idiots didn’t get that pink = girl: They care too much about what other people think. :P

    But I’d seriously like to take a moment here to compare piercing an infant’s ears to a small tattoo on an 11-year-old. Both are tasteless, so let’s just get that out of the way.

    Piercings are significantly more prone to infection than tattoos. Once a tattoo heals, infection is a non-issue. Piercings, on the other hand, are pretty perpetually prone to infection due to potential injury and metal sensitivities.

    There’s also the ethical concern. An infant is incapable of consent. Hell, at that age, their little minds can’t grasp the concept of a piercing. So, you are both piercing them against their will and taking that choice away from them as they get older (half of my female friends opted to remain un-pierced). An 11-year-old, however, while quite possibly unable to fully grasp the permanence of a tattoo, is at least able to ask for it and back out beforehand.

    So, why do we automatically categorize a small tattoo on a child as “stupid as fuck”, but piercing the ears of little baby girls remains a common practice that people hardly blink at? Surely, from a health and ethical standpoint, both should be illegal…

  • Heather_Habilatory

    “I got tired of assholes referring to her as a boy even though she was dressed fully in pink with a little pink headband.”

    That’s a perfectly reasonable excuse for mutilating a child without their consent. Because STRANGERS think they’re a boy. pppfff.

  • newstarshipsmell

    I suppose clip-ons, ear screws, magnetic ear rings, etc. would not occur as a viable solution to this “problem” for these moms. Considering that they see it as a “problem” in the first place…

  • LeaveMeBe

    Hey now! I was named Miss Trailer Park in 1996 by the company I worked for. Of course, it was a privately owned computer company and they were all very hip and eclectic and here I was totally country with boots and jeans. They were as fascinated by me as I was by them. I know they meant it totally affectionately when they gave me that award. Be nice, Athena.

    ETA: I never pierced my infant daughter’s ears or tattooed either of my kids, but when each turned 18 we took them to get their first tattoos professionally done as a gift. :P

  • LeaveMeBe

    Iced coffee out the nose. First time today.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Everyone pretty much covered all the tattooing and beauty consultatn stuff stuff so I’ll say that I’m very curious why it took someone a year to report this and I wonder what she reported the paternal grandfather for? This very well could be a case of revenge. Not that it excuses what she did or her lengthy criminal history, but I’m just saying this is a section of the story that perked my attention.

  • shadough

    Who cares if people think the baby is a boy? Seriously, why does that matter? Why dress them in pink? Gah, I hate little girls dressed in nothing but pink or pink’s weird cousin, purple.

  • lyssdexia

    @ Athena – I agree 100%. My daughter was as bald as a lightbulb until she was 3. All I heard was “Pierce her ears, she’ll look like a girl!” I felt like a leper when I would reply, “Without her permission? Are you NUTS?!?” Of course, I also had to put my foot down about having a circumcision on my son. Caught a lot of flak about that one, too. No one has ever been able to persuade me different, though. Body modification on an infant? For no reason other than fashion/culture/tradition? Nah.

  • lyssdexia

    I think every state has different age/consent laws about tattoos. I’ve had a bunch of students get inked- with parental permission – as young as 14. Talking about Florida, though, and everyone knows that things are “different” here. (lol)

  • darsa

    EXACTLY!! The “who cares what other people think” part. Good way to start your kid on a lifetime of self-doubt, if you ask me. My daughter was baaalllld until she was out of diapers, and yet I didn’t feel she needed earrings until she could actually ask me (well, actually it got to “begging me”) for them. :) I had to convince a friend that putting hoops on her 3-month-old daughter was a bad idea… luckily, I actually was able to make her see the danger of the girl ripping the hoop out of her ear O.O

  • newstarshipsmell

    What about both pink and purple at the same time?

  • newstarshipsmell

    Maybe the detective really enjoyed that blow job.

  • CapeTownGirl

    @lyssdexia There are certain health benefits to circumcision, not sure that should be lumped in with the baby ear piercing/lets tattoo children category.

  • come_and_see

    Am I the only one who doesn’t see anything wrong with this?

  • Rachel Ann

    First let me say I think you’re awesome and I only down voted you coz I got my ears pierced as a baby and my parents are in no way shape or form trashy. My mom is a christian and my dad is bi polar but other than that they are amazing. So NOT all babies with pierced ears have trashy parents. I was like 1 when I got mine pierced and I’ve never had to go through the trouble of piercing my ears like my friends who ears weren’t . My niece got her ears pierced around the same age and it didn’t bother her as far as I remember.
    But to each their own :)

  • kimbev69

    also the heavy earrings will stretch the lobe and she will end up with a big slit in the ear…my grandma had long slits from wearing heavy earrings…

  • kimbev69

    i had my daughters ears pierced at age 1 and regretted it instantly, and when people ask the question of whether or not to get their daughters ears pierced i tell them of how sad and upset i was after i had gotten hers done, we took the earrings out after 6 months or so and she didn’t want them back in until recently…she asked for earrings she is 3, her holes were still open, i was amazed now she wants to go earring shopping all the time, she wants these tiny acorns (she loves acorns) i have to get them for her birthday, tattoos that’s crazy…i also had my son circumsized and he has thanked me for that .. he is 23 and says he is so glad he was otherwise he would have considered having it done now as an adult..so there are some things that we do for our kids that make sense..i mean after all we are the parents, i know alot of males are against something they don’t even recall happening…and that is understandable

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rochell-Arnold/100000587657456 Rochell Arnold

    Really mutilating my child without consent? haha. You are funny considering that 1. ear holes can close up, mine did while I was in BCT and I had to get them repierced even though I had them as an infant. 2. As early as age 2 my daughter loved her earring and at age 4 she still loves them. If it was such a mutilation it would be against the law, but seeing as most commercial piercers do this I must respectfully disagree. Now your opinion is yours mine is mine….so feel free to judge me if you want but you can kiss my ass if you are attempting to imply that I would ever do anything depraved to hurt my kid. How dare you fucking imply something so shitty, without knowing me….BTW I am not mad just sayin’ but nice attempt to troll me….it’s the internet so I really don’t give two shits what you think.

  • Athena

    I hope you know that I’m just giving you ladies a hard time, mostly, and trying to provoke some thought. I’m not accusing you of child abuse or anything… I just want people to take a second to think about why piercing is perfectly fine while a small tattoo is not? Logically, it doesn’t make sense. It’s not consistent. If piercing a child’s ears is socially acceptable, giving a child a small tattoo should also be. Or neither.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Would you feel the same way if the child ended up hospitalized due to infection? This mom’s prior record doesn’t exactly encourage me to trust her skills and safety as a tattoo artist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kati.durden Kati Durden

    Ear piercing is culturally very important to some people, and I respect people’s choices in that respect. I honestly don’t have a problem with a minor getting a tattoo, although I would hope that the best safety practices would be used (probably not with an at-home tattoo). Since neither significantly interferes with a child’s health or well-being, I defer to the parent’s judgement. See, Athena, I just made a point without calling other people “trashy” or disparaging their “personality traits.”

  • Athena

    Good job. Would you like a cookie?

  • ShelbySP

    My sister and I weren’t allowed to get our ears pierced until we were 12. I used to be sooo jealous of all the girls who already had their cute little earrings in kindergarten and first grade. Then when I was 12, I didn’t do a good job taking care of them and one of the holes got infected and closed up, and I had to get it re-pierced. I wish my mom had just taken care of them for me as a baby so I wouldn’t have had to deal with it, but I guess I learned a valuable lesson about personal responsibility, body modification, and touching open wounds…

  • http://www.truecrimereport.com CallMeMister

    Not to mention intentionally PERMANENTLY defacing your offspring, who cannot know the implications or ramifications of what you are doing because you’re 11 years old.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mmp.n.jmm Mary Pop Pins

    yeah…shes a very boyish looking (apparently) one year old… even when shes in dresses and wears pink people still comment on my “beautiful son” grrrr

  • newstarshipsmell

    Well, my mom let my hair grow out when I was a toddler, and despite dressing me up in the most boyish of clothes, she constantly received compliments about her “beautiful little girl.” Somehow, she managed to live with it.

  • strawberryfieldsforevie

    what’s your stance on infant circumcision?

  • strawberryfieldsforevie

    those frilly elastic headbands are nearly as bad as pierced baby ears. they look like frederick’s of hollywood bridal garters.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    Hah, I call them pink monsters! My daughter’s nursery friends only ever wear pink- she stands out like a sore thumb as I refuse to buy her pink. It seems that if it’s a girl then all you get is pink, pink, pink, pink, and even more pink.

  • strawberryfieldsforevie

    i rarely literally laugh out loud from reading here. thanks for making that rarity a reality.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    So that explains a lot of things….

  • newstarshipsmell

    Apparently I became very violent when she tried to have my hair cut. No memories of it, just pictures to prove I had long-ass hair when I was little.

  • Athena

    I’m on the fence (and luckily, only have a daughter, so it’s not a decision I’ll ever have to make). I am an atheist, so it holds no cultural significance to me. It does offer mild medical benefits (less chance of infection and STD contraction). My husband always said he’d want a boy circumcised, if only because, as a circumcised male, he’s not 100% confident he could teach a son how to care for an uncircumcised penis. Of course, intact foreskin is associated with more sensation, which would benefit him as an adult, and is not something I would take from him under light consideration.

    So, that’s my stance. In a nutshell, I don’t really have one, yet, and may never.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kati.durden Kati Durden

    No. I would like to live in a free society. I’m a libertarian. What can I say.

  • LeaveMeBe

    My BFF’s little boy had long hair, too, mullet style. Everyone called him a girl and it pissed her off. I finally convinced her to cut his hair when he was 4 because it just wasn’t “cute” anymore. Of course, I also convinced her at that time to get rid of her 80′s hair-do. Sometimes she gets stuck and I have to help her out. :)

  • newstarshipsmell

    It’s what I’m here for.

  • strawberryfieldsforevie

    i think men will generally want their sons to have whatever kind of penis they have. it’s an instinctive thing.

    so you’re only going to have the one child? stand strong…everyone has an opinion on only children, for some reason.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    “She wanted it”

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    And how old are you….12 with that comment?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    I don’t see anything wrong with it…one outline of a heart…big deal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    My daughter was 17…not too young to decide she wanted one.

  • Athena

    At this time, we only intend on having one child. Of course, 5 years ago, we intended on having none (our opinions changed before getting pregnant, not by getting pregnant :P ). A second child is not totally out of the picture, but with the economy recovering slowly, we won’t consider a second until the financial landscape changes dramatically. Of course, I just turned 30 and don’t want to have children after 35, so the clock is ticking. At this point, I can generally ensure my current child braces, sports, college. Two? Not so much.

    My best friend is an only child. There are pluses and minuses, for sure. Mine is only 2, and I can already tell she needs better socialization (there are only two children even remotely her age in the social circle, so we’ll have to branch out to activities with strangers). My best friend turns 30 in a few months. I’m pretty sure she could still use better socialization, too.

  • lespacino

    Duh, an “entrepener” is obviously someone who is a penis expert. They are so good they can identify them solely based on the taste of the semen!

  • lespacino

    which is why you hear so many stories about Europeans, Asians, and Africans penises falling off due to lack of circumcision?

  • newstarshipsmell

    Sorry, Grandma.

  • lespacino

    Dear god, please don’t encourage people to use those. I swear, once we are all dead and gone, future humans will think we had tons of babies suffering from garish head wounds!

  • newstarshipsmell

    You got any Oreos?

  • lespacino

    No babies look one sex or the other, unless their genitals are hanging out. Why care so much. Mine were bald, so people called them boys all the time. They survived with no memory of the experience whatsoever!

  • lespacino

    You should’ve pierced her belly button for her, too. That would be super cute on a baby girl- especially when she’s wearing her little, tiny bikini!

  • Athena

    I happen to agree with all you’ve said, aside from your less-than-subtle inference that I should refrain from derogatory speech. You know, for the record.

  • lespacino

    Kill…me…now…lol

  • lespacino

    Why can’t babies wear lipstick?! Sure, you’d have to constantly re-apply it due to drool and eating habits, but it would be worth the sacrifice so that no female child ever has to endure the shame of hearing themselves referred to as males. Also, if someone could invent staple on mustaches for curly-haired baby boys, that would be good.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Thank you. I prayed fervently that someone would salvage my well thought out comment above.

  • lespacino

    I hope you give her everything she wants- always. It just makes sense! Also, I trust you celebrated with a booze-filled party for her and her underage friends after!

  • newstarshipsmell

    I like how you took her mischaracterization of @Heather_Habilatory:disqus’s sarcastic criticism as trolling and handed her a solid example of the real thing.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Exactly. I could honestly care less if moms want to pierce their daughters’ earlobes; if it were that dangerous I would think laws would prohibit it. But I find the justification for it of “everyone thinks they’re boys!” utterly ridiculous.

  • lespacino

    I do what I can. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rochell-Arnold/100000587657456 Rochell Arnold

    Funny. I am not annoyed nearly as much @lespacino:disqus’s comment because I know he/she/it is a moron apparently whereas @Heather_Habilatory:disqus’s basically accused me of mutilating/hurting my child. Which anyone that knows me is aware that I am a strong advocate against child abuse. I know by commenting it will breed more contempt but eh whatever. I find you all pretty damned amusing considering you took my agreement with Mary out of context. Essentially I did pierce my daughter’s ears because I was the same age when mine were done so I saw no harm, and yes for about the first year and a half my daughter had zero hair on her head so EVEN with pierced ears people still thought she was a boy…not that it matters. What I do not find amusing AT ALL is child abuse. I know exactly what trolling is boys and girls I have been around this game a little while now. Thanks for playing. Have a swell day now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rochell-Arnold/100000587657456 Rochell Arnold

    Yes clip ons come off so much easier and present a choking hazard. With simple post earrings children tend to leave those alone….Just speaking from my experience with this.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Just curious, what was the design, if you don’t mind telling us? FWIW, I think you would have fielded a lot less criticism if you’d stated up front she was 17; we were all thinking about an 11yo girl due to the story. 17 is way more reasonable to let them have a tattoo, although you’ll still have naysayers decrying it.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Good point. Thanks for pointing out the blatant flaw in my reasoning. It surely won’t be the last time I say something incredibly stupid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rochell-Arnold/100000587657456 Rochell Arnold

    It’s part of being human. I know I come off with dumbass shit sometimes.

  • newstarshipsmell

    No, trolling is when someone adopts a deliberately controversial stance and posts solely to stir up indignant reactions for the sole sake of the troll’s amusement, generally where said troll holds no strong opinion on the matter. Heather was simply stating how she felt, with over-the-top sarcasm, sure, but nonetheless, it’s kind of ignorant to dismiss someone else’s comment as “trolling” simply because you disagree with it or find it upsetting. The term gets misused all the time.

    There is absolutely nothing trollish about some of us holding the opinion that piercing your infants ears, for the sole purpose of easing your own frustration with her gender misidentification by others, is patently retarded. That is what you implied in your first comment, which is what she was remarking upon. If you simply wish to have your child’s ears pierced, fine. Using a moronic justification for it just makes it sound like you think there’s something wrong with doing so in the first place and you need an excuse to make it “okay.”

    You’re welcome for playing. Try a winning strategy next time.

  • Gee

    Like @newstarshipsmell:disqus said below perhaps you could have said she was 17 in the first place. This story is about a 11 year old which in my opinion is far too young for a tattoo. I don’t believe 17 is too young either. I don’t see 1 year making the difference in the decision process.

  • Gee

    I just want to say I do love your thought provoking Posts. You always make think about my stance on any given subject. Proud to say I am usually a long the same lines as you. :o )~

  • http://www.facebook.com/kati.durden Kati Durden

    You know who’s keeping the record? THE GOVERNMENT (hides under libertarian bed)

  • Athena

    LMAO. As a Libertarian-leaning independent (who was a registered, full-bore Libertarian for years), I do appreciate that kind of humor. We can cheers our tinfoil hats.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    It was a small butterfly on her back shoulder…she has since let me add on, but I made sure it was small so it could be covered up later if she wanted to change designs :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    Actually, she is getting married in december (she is 22 now)…and she is s strict Christian…so, NO, there were never any wild parties with her. Boy, assumptions are rampant here, but have a nice day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Janet.Teal.Thomas Janet Teal Thomas

    And I don’t care about criticism…nobody here knows me :)

  • Athena

    (Pssssst… She does know that tattoos are strictly forbidden by the book of Leviticus, right? Also, you may want to inform her that marriages involving those under the age of 25 have a roughly 95% divorce rate. I mean, if you’re going to be together forever, what’s the rush? Good luck to her, at any rate.)

  • JGo555

    Personally, it’s part of my culture and I liked it. She got them after being 6 months. So by your comment, I am trashy.
    I’m a bit annoyed by your particular assumption BUT I respect your belief about piercing ears in young children.

  • whisperswing

    I started reading comments but gave up,,found it more about ear piercings then the actual story itself

  • http://www.facebook.com/Leashaness Alicia Lynee’

    I fucking love you for your views on infant piercings and circumcision. I’m an Intactivist, so it’s amazing to see other moms who do the same :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Leashaness Alicia Lynee’

    Actually, that’s a common misconception. There are NO medical benefits. All of the myths of circumcision have been debunked. It is a violation of human rights & mutilation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Leashaness Alicia Lynee’

    Having foreskin is no dirtier than being circumcised. As long as the male can clean his body in a shower, infection will not be an issue. Also, to prevent STDs parents need to teach about contraception, like condoms. But doctors make bank off these procedures, so here it stays :/

  • http://www.facebook.com/Leashaness Alicia Lynee’

    So basically piercing her ears was for no reason since she was still mistaken as a boy. Nice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Leashaness Alicia Lynee’

    Just because something is legal does not make it right.

  • shanshanity

    Sooo…totally against ear piercing but meh about removing part of an infants penis?
    Ok.

  • lespacino

    You say “strict Christian” like that means something…even something good! When I think “strict Christian” I remember what a slut I was when I was one!

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Sorry I’m just seeing this. My interpretation of Leviticus 19:28 was that it was a law for time period. It was said to the Isrealites so that they can be visually separate from the Pagans. He didn’t want the Isrealites to imitate the Pagans.

    My interpretation may be incorrect but that’s how I’ve always viewed it. Much to my mothers dismay.

  • CapeTownGirl

    Umm sure if you consider reduced risks of STD contraction and penis cancer a misconception. Google it, you could learn something today.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kenny.sills.1 Kenny Sills

    I think if people read ‘Tattoo: A Beautiful Sin’, everyone
    would be afraid to get a tattoo! It’s
    about a serial killer who ties his victims down and cuts their tattoos out of
    their bodies while all they can do is scream over the classical music that he plays
    while he works! Only when he’s done
    “cleaning” them, does he finally kill them in the most macabre
    ways! Check it out here!
    http://www.amazon.com/Tattoo-Beautiful-Mr-Kenny-Sills/dp/146811994X

  • Andyman

    You probably should have gotten your son circumcised. I get why you didn’t and I understand that, but there are actual medical benefits to being circumcised, and it is easier/better to be done sooner than later. I wasn’t given the option as it was done at birth but I am glad my parents did it and I will do that for my son if / when I have one. I would surmise that the ladies prefer a circumcised penis to one that isn’t. That’s a guess but I’d love to see a vote.

  • Andyman

    “intact foreskin is associated with more sensation, which would benefit him as an adult” – meh – maybe. I know I last a LOT longer than I think I would without being circumcised. Guess that’s a double edge sword – I last longer but probably don’t come as hard. I certainly don’t come as fast. Your mileage may vary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=736546181 Michael Heldman

    Not sure you want to use asian penises as an example… Uncircumcised penis skin is more prone to catching disease…not usually leprocy, though.

  • cherrybubblesbonbon

    hmm… yeah thats what i wondered to be honest… why would anyone wait a year to make a report??

  • cherrybubblesbonbon

    completely agree athena… and i have both tattoos and piercings (though i did go to a proper tattoo parlour, not a toothless crackhead in a trailer park) but i was over 30 when i had my 1st tattoo! i didnt get my ears pierced till i was in my final year at grammar school because i wasnt allowed! my point being that as a parent sometimes you have to say no! and mine said no a helluva lot and they were right! at 11 a child can barely decide between toast and cereal for breakfast so they certainly are not capable of knowing the pro’s and cons of permanent body ink or otherwise! >:(