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Woman Commits Suicide By Setting Herself On Fire At Gas StationBURLINGTON, Vt. - A woman is dead after she purchased $5 worth of gas at a Vermont gas station, then used it to set herself on fire.

According to a clerk at the Champlain Farms Shell gas station, the woman came into the store and prepaid for the gas. She also placed her I.D. on the counter and said she didn’t need it any longer. When she went back out to the pumps where her gold Subaru Forester was sitting, the store employees watched as the woman removed the hose from the gas pump and began dousing herself with gasoline.

Probably because women do this all the time, the store manager immediately shut off the pump from inside the store. But the employees quickly realized this wasn’t another case of a woman not knowing how to put the doohickey into the whatchamacallit when the woman struck a match and set herself on fire.

The store manager and some customers ran out and tried to put the woman out with fire extinguishers, but the woman had already achieved her goal of self-immolation. Fire crews arrived quickly, but the woman was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Investigators say they will not release the name of the woman, described only as being in her 30s, until her family has been notified. They did say that they feel there’s nothing suspicious about the incident, and that this was a completed suicide.

“There is nothing here that would lead us to believe that there was any kind of mechanical problem with the pumps, the car or anything like that. The public shouldn’t be afraid,” Burlington Police Sgt. Jason Lawson said. “It looks like it was an intentional act by the individual… It looks like she was trying to commit suicide.”

One horrific way to go, and in this case, a very selfish way. Not because she leaves people behind, as I feel an adult should be able to end their life when they want, but selfish in the manner she chose. She put a lot of people at risk with this method and had the manager not shut off the pumps when she did, there is no telling what may have happened. Not to mention what kind of mental trauma the witnesses are now suffering from seeing the act.

Like I said, I have no issues with adults offing themselves. I just want them to be polite. Or be creative.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=23422362 Robin Camille

    Yeah well, her goose was cooked. What’s with these people? Why do they make others watch? Sickos

  • http://www.facebook.com/dre.mosley Dre Mosley

    Call me a pussy, but if I’m gonna off myself, I’m going to do it in the most pain free way that I can. Burning alive is about the worst way to go.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Pussy.. :-)

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    As long as a person doesn’t take anyone else out before they go or while they’re going, they are free to do as they please with themselves. Sometimes depression, chronic pain disorders, or diseases that have terminal diagnoses anyway are just too much to bear. Its hard on the people left behind, yes, but sometimes the pain, be it physical or emotional, is just too much to take.

    I really want to know her back story, though. What would drive a person to take herself out in a way that was incredibly physically painful and a clear danger to innocent bystanders? What about her life was so awful that she felt that she had to kill herself and send a big “FUCK YOU” to the community in general?

  • Sam

    “There is nothing here that would lead us to believe that there was any
    kind of mechanical problem with the car”
    *fetches baseball bat from under bed, eyes all Japanese cars suspiciously, just in case*

  • LeaveMeBe

    So, what is the price of gas in Vermont right now?

  • JGo555

    Well, as sad as this is, let’s all pray she was an assole, kiddie diddler, old people beater, human abuser, bath salts user person.
    It is the only way this situation might be less traumatic and we can approve of it.

  • http://twitter.com/vab423 Vicki B.

    If she were in California, $5 wouldn’t have bought enough gas to set an ant on fire.

  • Gee

    “They did say that they feel there’s nothing suspicious about the incident, and that this was a completed suicide.”

    So glad they cleared that up. For a minute I thought the pumps attacked her and this was going to be a future issue with me getting gas. *rolls eyes*

  • Gee

    I am with you Dre! Sleeping pills sounds good to me

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Gingo-McClinton/1326777330 Terry Gingo McClinton

    call me one to then Dre..that’s some bullshit…she had to be crazy..like, for real crazy…I mean who does that shit other than Tibetan’s??

  • takurospirit

    Lately I feel the world is against me and the shit keeps piling up higher and higher. So if I were pushed a little further and decided on suicide I might just make people watch, because a previous poster was right – FUCK YOU ALL! I’m so sick of everything that’s all my long-winded ass will say.

  • JohnQknowitall

    What an incredibly selfish act. The pain of the suicidal is always less than the exponential pain of those WHO DO care and are let behind. Selfish self centered ass.

  • Andyman

    Fuck that method. If I ever decided it was my time I’d do the whole exhaust from the car engine in the garage routine. Yeah, put me down for the “falls asleep and dies peacefully” method. That is about the least painful way right? Anybody try another way that worked out well for you? lol.

  • Pyncky

    or maybe she had voted for Bush and then had a moment of sanity and regret.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I think it’s safe to say that the unidentified woman had a pretty much contained barbeque. It is unfortunate for the people who will now have her sight branded into their memory though.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Maybe she was getting herself ready for more to come.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Quite a few people lately.I will at least give these gas/match people credit for being serious and not just seeking sympathy,or attention.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Sleeping pills – get it wrong and you may just wind up a vegetable,shitting hospital sheets in your very own coma.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Where is that golf club guy when you need him ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Read your comment just now – sorry you,me and so many others are all having a rough go of it at the moment. Being alive – you are apparently doing it correctly.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    No one “had” to watch – however studies have shown that given a choice most people will watch.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    In Texas (right now) she would have had change coming.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Exactly what I thought – what a stupid public statement to make.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Her boyfriend had just dumped her (my best guess – going by face book postings of women who have recently been dumped).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    good one :)

  • http://twitter.com/Q_Jordon Quintin Jordon

    Hell of a way to die; even worse, it is a hell of a way to protest gasoline prices.

  • Gee

    No Kidding! $5 worth of gas in CA would have had her in the burn ward looking at a long recover

  • tinalib13

    Yup, it’s the train wreck thingy.

  • LeaveMeBe

    The image of you brawling with the gas pump waving an antenna has me laughing uncontrollably! Oh my!

  • LeaveMeBe

    I’m aiming for a death due to natural causes in my sleep type of suicide.

  • Gee

    Bhwahahahahaa I think I pee’d my pants laughing at this… You crazy lady

  • blubberdong

    It’s a phenomena known as fascinasty, a word I’d like to take credit for but Morbid trademarked it, the bastard. He’s got all the cool words.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Staves/521875395 Andy Staves

    Pussy lol ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Thank you Andy for “forcing” me to tell yet another back when I was a cop story :)

    Back when I was a cop I knew this lady who was nice,but kinda strange.She was an attractive lady in her 40′s and she was going through a nasty divorce.The lady had threatened several times to kill herself because she was tired of being a bother to everyone,and no one gave a damn about her.I remember going on a call to her residence once that was put out as a barricaded person with a gun call.A sergeant was primary officer on the call and I was sent as the back up officer. There were other police stationed outside around the house.Everyone at the station knew who this lady was so when we got to the location me and the sergeant actually made contact with her, and went inside her house when she let us in.

    The lady had a small pistol in her hand,but she kept it behind her back and never pointed it at anyone while we were there. After a long talk with the sergeant the lady finally handed the pistol over to him.She said that she was overly depressed with her life,but that she didn’t want to hurt anyone else.

    I remember hearing one of the policewomen I worked with comment at the station one day that she wished “the Bitch would go ahead and kill herself”,because she was sick and tired of having to go out on her bull shit calls.Well this officer got her wish one day – I was dispatched on a non-responsive person call and it was this ladies address.

    The lady had started her vehicle (a brand new Cadillac) while it was inside her garage with the garage door down.She had also ran a hose from the tail pipe of the vehicle into one of the windows and locked it into place by letting the window up.Inside the vehicle with her was a bottle of Vodka,some orange juice,and she had a glass in one hand.The lady was wearing a night gown. I will never forget the sound she made when the paramedics pried her from the seat of that Caddy – that’s right – they had to pry her from the seat because Rigor mortis had already set in, and her body had molded itself to the leather. When they pulled her from the seat the sound she made was exactly like the sound Velcro makes when you rip it apart.They put her on the stretcher and she maintained a perfect sitting position while laying on her back.

    This ladies suicide depressed me because in spite of all of her problems – she was in fact a nice person,that and I also knew her 18 year old daughter,and the husband (The husband once had told me that she was just a crazy Bitch and what he wanted more than anything was to get away from her ass,but that when that happened she was probably going to clean him out of everything he had worked his ass off to earn).The daughter didn’t dislike her mom but she was embarrassed by her mom’s erratic behavior,and thought her mom was a “crazy lady” – the daughter’s words.

    I have heard that numerous people who have survived carbon monoxide poisoning suicide attempts have stated that they actually changed their mind during the event,but that they were unable to move to stop it.What these people describe is nothing short of a real life nightmare.

    When people threaten to kill themselves it should always be taken seriously.I wonder if the lady in Morbid’s article article made any out cries that were ignored.

  • Andyman

    I’m having a little trouble with this paragraph, Ced.

    I have heard that numerous people who have survived carbon monoxide poisoning suicide attempts have stated that they actually changed their mind during the event,but that they were unable to move to stop it.What these people describe is nothing short of a real life nightmare.

    How did these numerous people survive their suicide attempts if they were unable to move to stop them? I’d also be curious to know more about what these people said it felt like or what they experienced. Does it feel like you can’t breathe? Inquiring minds want to know!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Morbid has laid claim to a lot of cool shit – I noticed that as well.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I am sorry about the stress and pressure that you are under and loneliness that you may be feeling. I understand where you are emotionally (trust me) and also know how hard it is to believe there is someone out there who will just shut up and listen so if you ever want to talk you can PM me.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    The worst thing that you can do to someone contemplating suicide is say what everyones life is like, it’s dismissive. We don’t know what they are dealing with and everyone’s breaking point is different.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Other people intervened.

  • tinalib13

    Fascinasty. I like it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Correct. A good example of an attempt involving intervention would be Herschel Walker (although to this day Herschel still insists that “I had been traveling. I was tired. I got into my car to take a drive, and I put a tape in the deck. It was a song I liked. I stopped to listen, leaned back, closed my eyes, and I guess I got too relaxed. Man, it wasn’t anything like suicide. It was just a good tape.”)His – at that time – wife stated that Herschel had tried to kill himself when she called 911,later she changed her story.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Heather is correct.I have never heard of any one say that they felt like they could not breathe … what they say is that they lose the ability to move.This may look like a peaceable death on the outside – due to the whole movement denied thing that goes on,but according to survivors inside is a totally different story.

  • LeaveMeBe

    If you need an ear to bend and someone to just sit in the shit with you for awhile, find me in the forums and message me. Seriously.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    You took what I said and walked away from it with what you
    wanted to … that was “your” call. Maybe I’m also having a
    “rough go at it” – thank you Mrs. High and Mighty for dismissing me.
    I have had all sorts of classes on the subject of suicide – so thank you for
    schooling me on it. My whole point to takurospirit is that if you are alive you are dealing with something – that is
    just part of being alive – in life there are ups and there are the downs. If
    there are no ups and downs a person is usually dead. My point is also that no
    matter what we are going through in life there is almost always someone some
    where who is going through much worse. Like the story of the girl who was
    crying because she had no shoes to wear – she stopped crying about the issue
    when she saw a guy with no legs. I wasn’t being Dismissive of takurospirit’s
    problems rather I was acknowledging that he is human, as am I, as are “most”
    people – so there for he is not alone.

  • Andyman

    Thanks for enlightening me. :)

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    No, I took away from it what was implied. There was no hint of “high and mighty” in my tone at all it was me stating facts and I will not apologize for them. When someone tells you that they are thinking of suicide stating “sorry you, me and so any others…” comes off as dismissive. It’s not about you or others, it’s about the poster.

    Now you may not have meant for it to be that way but that’s how it came off. Call me whatever names you see fit but suicide is one thing that I take really seriously and any wrong thing said can sink a person into depression even further.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    Would you have an alternative suggestion?

  • Chinchillazilla

    Me too. At my most depressed, the only reason I didn’t kill myself was because there was no way that I felt was guaranteed to work AND not hurt.

  • Chinchillazilla

    I really don’t think you’re right about the pain. If so, everyone left behind would also kill themselves. Suicide happens when pain exceeds the capacity of all your coping mechanisms.

  • Gee

    As long as I am not aware that I am shitting the sheets I guess I am ok with that

  • onlyme356

    I can’t understand burning yourself to death either. Sounds incredibly painful, she must have panicked and regretted it for a moment.

  • kimbev69

    Wonder how fast she was regretting this

  • JohnQknowitall

    I strongly disagree with you. Her family and friends will have to live with the memory of the last few minutes of her life. Her perceived loss to them will live on. No the individuals will not be suicidal, but the aggregate of her murder (yes murder) will live on and on and on… Her pain is over, but theirs has only just begun. It is unfair. She could, as many do
    every single day, seek help. Instead she was self-centered to the max. I feel
    for her friends and family. Too bad she was too self absorbed to care about them.

  • cedric

    No,you took it the way you wanted to take it.This is ced and I can’t get my home PC to log me into my account.I will say this then I’m done with it (matters not what else you have to say) – even after I explained what I had meant in detail you maintained that “your” version was correct as to “what was implied” – loudly indicating that YOU know better than me what I was saying even though I am the one who wrote it. This makes you a very high and mighty person when you can charge up another person claiming to be able to tell them what the hell they have just said in the face of them telling you that you took it wrong.The way you took my words was not “Now you may not have meant for it to be that way but that’s how it came off” – that’s just the way it “came off to YOU.” If you look for dirt in the air you can often find it – congrats on your finding.PS – I didn’t ask you for an apoligy.

  • cedric

    John people who commit suicide are normally not thinking correctly at the time – that is the main reason intervention can at times save lives.If you can just stop whatever is going on inside of their heads for even a moment by talking to them sometimes that mental break is enough to let their brains reset. People can yell out all day and night how selfish suicide is,but that neither changes,nor addresses the fact that the person in question was not mentally well when they committed the act.People commit suicide for various reasons – all of them have it in common though that the reasons are personal to the person.Some are in incredible physical pain,others the pain is mental,regardless of what the exact issue is it is something which has grown to big for them and they just want it to end.You can’t always save them,but sometimes you can,and it’s helpful if you prepare in advance for the day you may be called on to talk someone out of killing them self.If you just write them off to being selfish Bastards you will fail.Compassion John – you have to have it.

  • cedric

    You are entitled to that opinion my friend,but seriously what Chinchillazilla wrote is correct.

  • Male_DV_Victim

    She will not be vilified as was Thomas James Ball.

    Plenty will feel sorry for her and wish she had gotten help.

    More women than men “ATTEMPT” suicide, but more men than women succeed.

    Sad thing either way.

  • Athena

    Ced, perception nearly always trumps intent. You may have intended to make a very caring comment, but it was perceived by Angel’s Mom (and, I must say, myself) as dismissive, or at the very lease naive.
    Surely you know that people who suffer from chronic depression and who contemplate suicide are having more than “a rough go of it” like an unaffected person does on occasion, so to say something glib like that is quite contrary to your intention, which, I know was coming from a good place.
    The fact is, those of us who do not suffer from chronic or severe depression will never understand just how rough of a going it is, and to suggest we do can be easily perceived as inconsiderate and belittling.

  • Athena

    No, selfish are those of us who desire our loved ones to live in pain, day-in and day-out, just to spare us the discomfort of living without them.

  • JohnQknowitall

    No.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Agreed. Why would anyone want a loved one to live a life of pain and despair, just so they wont have to deal with their dying. That’s stupid. I like what suicide.org has to say to people who think suicide is selfish:

    “Suicide is a desperate act by someone who is in intense pain and wants their pain to stop. That is a HUMAN response to extreme pain, not a selfish one. And over 90 percent of the people who die by suicide have a mental illness at the time of their death, so they are not thinking clearly.

    Saying that a person who had severe clinical depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, PTSD, or a similar illness was engaging in an act of selfishness when they died by suicide – even though their thought process, mood, and judgment were greatly affected by their mental illness – is not only inaccurate, but downright cruel.

    And those who use the word “selfish” are merely helping perpetuate the STIGMA associated with suicide.

    A suicidal action that manifests from intense, excruciating, unbearable pain associated with a serious mental illness has nothing to do with selfishness. Period.”

  • lespacino

    I’m going to go ahead and say that unless you are living with a painful terminal condition suicide is not the answer. I am on the fence about whether or not someone has the right to take their own life just because it’s theirs. In theory, this seems fine. However, my best friend- from birth- killed himself 2 years ago. We even bathed together throughout our childhood…he was more like a brother to me than my actual brothers, in fact. I feel that loss and pain every day…his mother found him and had to go through trying to resuscitate him until help arrived…he was very much dead when she tried. A mother should never have to go through that. She is not the same. I doubt she ever will be. I don’t think he anticipated that he would be ruining her life by doing what he did, but he did ruin her life. In that case, no, suicide is not ok. I am selfish in this situation, because I loved him and want him back, too, but if you are going to take your life, you should at least do it in a manner in which you know- for sure- your family/loved ones won’t be subjected to finding you. God damn this story. Poor woman. I can’t imagine how bad your life must be if setting yourself the fuck on fire seems like the answer. Just too sad that we let people feel that alone and desperate in this world.

  • lespacino

    I am willing to listen to whatever you need to say, as well. Please consider that no matter how low you are feeling, there are people who do care. Not only are there people in your life who will be deeply affected should they lose you, but you have 3 strangers here who are concerned for your well-being. Try to hang in there. I know that I can’t possibly understand your situation, but please realize that even in the shittiest situations there are options. Please try to find those- and reach out to someone, anyone, if necessary. And, if the first person- or even the first 20- are useless, keep trying. You are worth trying for!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Yes,work your way through what ever pain you are dealing with – hang in there and remember suicide is never the correct answer to the question;it’s just the easy way.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “Just too sad that we let people feel that alone and desperate in this world.”

    Exactly … this is exactly what I was taught in suicide prevention classes. Sometimes people like this do not need,nor want to hear pat – rolled off the assembly line shit like ” You need to talk – you can message me.” Sometimes what they need is just a dose of reality – someone to remind them of something they already know – they are not the only one – they are not alone.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Athena – I must say this is without a doubt one of the nicest comments I have ever received from you. Thanks for that.

    Now as to the actual comment – you know that perceptions are like opinions yours, may not be as mine, and both of ours may not match the next person’s; factor into that equation the fact that men and women are not the same. This is why agencies maintain men, and women counselors, and negotiators. Men and women do not reach out in the same way. The comment I left was in fact rushed (I had already started getting ready to log off to leave work when I saw takurospirit’s comment and I didn’t have it in me to just exit without saying something to him),however it was not necessarily an incorrect reach out response. The comment may not have struck you, or Angel’s mom correctly, but then it wasn’t left for either of you guys. It was a direct message from me to takurospirit reminding him that he is not alone. I really do not need case by case specifics to issue this statement – if you have a problem you are never the first with that problem – at least thousands have already been there before
    you. If you have a question – you are not normally going to be the first with it – thousands have asked the same question before you thought of it – this is simply the way it is.

    The way you and Angel’s mom say my way of reaching out to takurospirit struck you as dismissive – I could say your way struck me as assembly line roll out, and the last thing that a lot of suicidal people actually want, or need to hear. A lot of suicidal
    people in fact DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO YOU.A lot of the suicidal people in the
    world could care less about your offer to listen. What works for one may not
    work for another. I am not saying that offering to listen is the wrong thing to do – I’m not ignorant – like some people to the point that I would shoot someone down for reaching out to another person in their own way. What I am saying though is there is no ONE key for dealing with situations like this, and just because you dislike another person’s reach out method does not make it a wrong method. You can offer all day long to listen to someone, however if they never take you up on that – if you simply toss that out there and go about your day feeling that you have done your part – then you have in fact done nothing and may as well have kept your mouth shut; oh you may feel good about yourself,but other than that you didn’t accomplish shit. Sometimes what a suicidal person actually needs is to hear a strong dose of reality … sometimes what is needed is a reminder of what they already know – they are not the only one, they are not alone.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    It’s really not about – “desire our loved ones to live in pain, day-in and day-out, just to spare us the discomfort of living without them.” It’s about the fact that suicide is never the correct answer to the question.Regardless of what tribulations life deals us there are other ways – we just have to give ourselves time and opportunity to find them. Sometimes the available options are not what one desires,but life is never easy – life is simply life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Experts state that suicide is in fact a selfish act,I have never seen any that disagreed on this.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I have yet to see an expert state that. Mind showing me the experts who have?

  • LeaveMeBe

    We are all self-absorbed to an extent. However, MOST people who are suicidal are not merely self-absorbed, they are very ill. Do their actions have far reaching consequences for others? Absolutely. Are they in a clear enough state of mind to comprehend those consequences? Not usually. MOST suicide is not about death but about stopping the pain and MOST of these people feel like a drain and a liability to their families and loved ones. There isn’t anything rational about MOST suicidal minds. MOST people who have survived their attempts will tell you that. Trying to impose logical thinking onto someone in this state is totally unfair. If you have never dealt with a mental health condition that can cause suicidal tendencies or thoughts, you really cannot fathom the condition at all.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Determining whether or not an act is selfish is subjective. You also make it sound as if being selfish is somehow bad or wrong when it isn’t.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I don’t care about being PC and if you knew me you would know that I am not.

    Your high and mighty comment is funny since you must have the last word on everything and argue about everything. Whether you meant for it to come off that way or not it did and I’m sure I’m not the only one who saw it.

    The same way you know the law I know suicidal tendencies, depression and psychology. I am done with this. You have made this about you and me and it’s not and was never supposed to be.

    I’m not interested in the drama, if you have more to say to me we can go head to head off of the boards. I can be found in the forums under Angels Mom, PM me.

  • blubberdong

    I’m sorry, what did you say? I was too busy thinking about me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Challenge accepted Morbid – I’m working so my time was
    limited on this, but what I found was that most of the so called experts are
    not making a lot of public statements anymore about suicide being a selfish
    act. No one seems to be attempting to deny that by pure definition (Concerned
    chiefly or only with yourself and your advantage to the exclusion of others) it
    is in fact selfish, how ever I did have a hard time finding experts who are
    currently making the blunt statement. Reviewing some of their past writings I
    found numerous comments like this one:

    “unless suicide is committed as a result of terrible and
    unrelenting physical pain — especially if one is suffering from a terminal
    illness — or a person knows that he is about to be tortured, most suicides are
    selfish acts. This is said with no lack of compassion for the terrible
    psychological suffering that people who commit suicide experience. But
    compassion does not negate the fact that suicide is usually a selfish act.”

    , but that is about all I found. Apparently the topic has gone
    PC. Challenge Failed.

    Below is a still recognized fact that should be taken into
    consideration by people interested in committing suicide:

    March 24, 2009|By Elizabeth Landau CNN:

    The poet Sylvia Plath, who made a name for herself through prose and poetry
    that conveyed a sense of depression and suicidal tendencies, famously died by
    asphyxiating herself in an oven in 1963.

    The recent reported suicide of her son, marine biologist Nicholas Hughes,
    brings to light a known psychiatric phenomenon: the heredity of suicidal
    behavior.

    A first-degree relative — a parent, sibling or child — of a person who has
    committed suicide is four to six times more likely to attempt or complete a
    suicide, said Dr. David Brent, psychiatrist at the University of Pittsburgh
    Medical Center.

    A few other interesting facts:

    · Every 14.2 minutes someone in the United States
    dies by suicide.

    · Nearly 1,000,000 people make a suicide
    attempt every year.

    · 90% of people who die by suicide have a
    diagnosable and treatable psychiatric disorder at the time of their death.

    · Most people with mental illness do not die by
    suicide.

    · Data puts yearly medical costs for suicide at
    nearly $100 million.

    · Men are nearly 4 times more likely to die by
    suicide than women. Women attempt suicide 3 times as often as men.

    · Suicide rates are highest for people between
    the ages of 40 and 59.

    · White individuals are most likely to die by
    suicide, followed by Native American peoples.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Subjective – a mental act performed entirely within the mind.I have to disagree. And yes I believe being selfish is wrong. The world would be a much better place to live if people would put others first.But all anyone’s ever concerned with is ME,ME,ME.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    SMILE

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Very well stated. 100% correct too,at least – the way my (don’t know shit) brain sees it.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Please allow me to amend my statement, I should have said that you made it sound like being selfish is *always* bad or wrong when it isn’t. And I agree that the world would be better if people put others first BUT if you look at the true definition of selfish I think you would agree that calling people who are suicidal ‘selfish’ isn’t appropriate either.

    Selfish – lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one’s own personal profit or pleasure.

    Suicidal people are not concerned about their own profit or pleasure.

  • LadyLeopard

    I wish I could up vote this comment, but Disqus is doing its ‘yes you can vote, no you can’t’ thing again.

  • The_Yeti_Knows

    The mistress promises to drag my corpse to the park if I go at her place

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003957084017 Chantal Clarke

    Cedric, I did some research on this particular case and I think I might have figured out who the lady is, although her name has never been released to the public. If it is the lady I think it is, her obituary says nothing more than she is a 39 year old lady who died on 6/25. I looked to see if any family members posted anything on her obituary site and there is NOT ONE person who wrote anything about this lady who passed away that day. Not even her parents wrote anything which I find is strange. After I did some more research, I found out that this lady who passed away on 6/25 was losing her home to foreclosure. I mean, who knows how bad she may have had it. Very sad none the less.