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Teacher Fired After Having Kindergarten Class Line Up To Slap Alleged Bully

June 18, 2012 at 12:42 pm by Morbid

Laredo, TX – The mother of a 6-year-old child says a teacher instructed an entire classroom of kindergartners to line up and slap her son because of his alleged bullying. Now two Salinas Elementary School teachers have been placed on leave, and the mother of the boy wants criminal charges filed.

The incident happened in May, but the boy never told his mother about it. It only came to light after one of the teachers present alerted school officials two weeks after it happened, and after a police report of the incident reached the county district attorney.

There’s two versions of what happened, neither of which are acceptable, but the mother’s version is a bit more extreme while the teacher’s version is a bit more believable.

According to the mother, her son admits he had been acting up in line. His teacher, described as “relatively young,” asked another teacher what she should do to curtail his bullying. The other teacher took the boy into her classroom and had him sit down before instructing 24 other kindergartners to file past him and give him a nice slap.

“He was hit on the head, in the face, on the back. And all the kids hit him twice,” said Amy Neely, the boy’s mother. “He had friends in that class, and friends didn’t want to hit him, but the teacher instructed them to hit him.”

She did not find out about this until the younger teacher informed the principal who, in turn, notified her. The police report is a bit different, but not any better.

The boy’s teacher says he had been deemed a bully by his classmates and asked a colleague for advice after he got into line trouble. The second teacher took the boy into her kindergarten class and told her students to hit him in order to “teach him why bullying is bad.” The report states the teacher instructed the students to “Hit him!” and “Hit him harder!”

According the report, “it was not until the sixth or seventh child hit high up on the back and harder than the others had hit,” that the first teacher finally put a stop to it. The students who participated said that they didn’t want to hit the boy, but they were afraid not to.

Both teachers were placed on leave. The one who asked for advice, watched the boy being hit and waited to report the incident, was “reprimanded and re-educated” and will return to her campus in the Fall. The teacher whose bright idea it was to form a slapping congo line “will not be asked to come back to the district in any capacity,” said Judson spokesman Steve Linscomb.

The boy’s mother doesn’t feel this is enough and worries that the teacher will simply find another teaching job elsewhere. She wants criminal charges filed. “I don’t want this teacher to be teaching anymore,” she said. “She doesn’t need to be around any children.”

The police report has been submitted to the Bexar County District Attorney’s office, but so far no charges have been filed.

Before any of you go off half-cocked, spouting out that maybe had the mother done something about her child’s bullying then none of this would have been an issue, she states at no time has the school ever contacted her regarding her child’s behavior.

Tags: Assault, bully, Crime, Salinas Elementary, school, slap, teacher, Texas

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kimbev69

Criminal charges for the second teacher and failure to protect for the second its very simple
nomorepolitix

Probably beating the shit out of both teachers wouldn’t hurt, either. Just so they can actually recognize bullying next time.
newstarshipsmell

Somewhat similar thing happened to my friend in 2nd grade (back in the 80s) except it happened on a field trip, where some kid got mercilessly bullied the entire trip, and lost his shit at the end and physically retaliated against his bully. The teacher (an old crone in that case – think maybe she was a nun) either wasn’t aware of or didn’t care about the bullying that led up to it, and instructed the entire class to line up and take turns punching the kid who got bullied. My friend tried to get off with lightly play-punching him and got yelled at to punch him for real and do it over. Never made the news but she was forced to quietly retire early a month later at the end of the schoolyear.

Who the fuck thinks it’s a good idea to teach kids to physically assault each other?
nomorepolitix

That story makes me incredibly sad.
C0NSTANTINE

I just got a flashback of Airplane the movie
CT

When I was in 7th grade – back in the stone ages – there was a nun who hated me with a passion. Fucking bitch was mean as shit to most, but to me – she was horrible. She would hit me in the head, on the knuckles, the list goes on and on. I had anxiety attacks in 7th grade. Between that crazy bitch and my Dad’s drinking, it’s a miracle I made it out alive. Thank goodness for my Mother.
David

This is pretty messed up for a 6 year-old… but for some reason, I think I’d be fine with it for a 16 year-old. Maybe because if he’s still bullying at 16… he’s destined to be a Douche-Lifer… and that shit needs to be corrected.
kimbev69

That woulda been done if it was my kid, i wish i felt that way when a fucked up teacher my son had in first grade treated him as she did
CT

First a big fuck you to Disqus for not letting me post this comment 3 times.

There is a 4 1/2 yr old kid in school with my kids that has bitten them numerous times, punches them, pushed my smaller son to the ground, spits on them, throws dirt in their faces and has called them asshole and bitch in Spanish (as well as me). I have talked to the school and get the same story – we are working with him. Fuck that. I have to be “that” Mom who has to tell her kids not to play with this kid because his parents won’t fucking deal with her spawn of Satan.
sugarpie

How many teachers turn a blind eye to bullying? These two didn’t (even though they could have handled it better). Damned if they do and damned if they don’t… Now lets teach the kid that it’s okay to be a little douche because whatever he does mommy is gonna bail his ass out. I don’t disagree with the teachers being let go, but when bullying becomes an issue there really needs to be more pro-active measures taken in the schools.
Heather_Habilatory

“Before any of you go off half-cocked, spouting out that maybe had the
mother done something about her child’s bullying then none of this would
have been an issue, she states at no time has the school ever contacted
her regarding her child’s behavior.”

Yeeeahhhhh, I’m not going to give her the benefit of the doubt. If the school says this kid is already a known bully in freakin kindergarten, odds are good mommy’s special little snowflake could drive a flaming dump truck into a combination orphanage/animal shelter, and she’d stick up for him: “No one EVER told me he had problems! Not ever! He’s a good kid!”
Just because mommy says the school never contacted her doesn’t mean they didn’t. Or haven’t TRIED.
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

So did I, and why I linked to it in the article. Still, after all these years, funny as hell.
AssWho?

Why does public schooling even exist anymore? Seems to be nothing more then a place to dump you ill behaved children, and have seen what level of “education” the system produces.
Like CT, I am the parent who has to tell my kids not to play with certain other kids, I even make sure to explain why I disapprove. I try to do it with in earshot of the other kids parents, In a often vain attempt to make them think im a ass, and also forbid their child from playing with mine.
~But mine are just about to hit school age, I bet its much harder keeping this crap from being ingrained once the start to attend public school~
David

I agree. Unfortunately, THIS is the state of things these days:

http://cl.jroo.me/z3/t/7/w/d/a.aaa-Explain-these-bad-grades.jpg
tinalib13

There are two problems within this article. First, the glaring stupidity of the teachers for having the children slap the boy. I mean did they honestly think this would go unnoticed? They should both be fired for having no common sense. The second problem is the mother. Bullies do not take any responsibility for their actions, and that is a learned behavior in my opinion. Mommy is always coming to his rescue. No matter if the school contacted her before or not, this cannot possibly be the first time her child has bullied. Bullies’ vicitms often don’t tell anyone because they’re afraid. Yes, what the teachers did was horribly wrong, but mom better step up or this shit is just going to get worse.
The_Yeti_Knows

Sometimes I wonder if ball stomping nuns aren’t exactly what kids need these days though, yes you had one that hated you, but it was probably because she was jealous of your tight body…. Regardless, discipline is where it’s at, let me write you a cheque and we can move on, clobbering the little fuckers that could use it.
CT

Tell me where to sign up.
tinalib13

Big fat cyber hug for you.<3
CT

Ah shuck, thanks Tina, I’m fine now. Maybe not completely sane but that’s what makes me so damn lovable and a total dickhead all at the same time.
https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

Girl wear that badge with pride, I do.
https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

Sad but true.
lyssdexia

If this child is already this big of a problem in kindergarten… there must be something else going on (a lot of times there is a bunch of physical abuse in the home.) There are procedures and trainings that are designed for teachers and administration to deal with the situation. Unfortunately, in my experience, there are so many teachers who don’t want to invest the time to follow these procedures. It doesn’t surprise me that the first teacher thought that the best thing to do was “share” the situation with a co-worker. As a teacher, this makes me sick. As a parent of a bullied child, I can sympathize. The head-in-the-sand- mothers who are in such deep denial about their child’s horrible behavior… don’t they realize they are enabling their child to become an abusive adult?
Heather_Habilatory

I know full well my daughter was a brat for a little bit. She turned 9 and decided she was too old and way too cool to hang out with her younger cousins and was a total SNOT to them at her 9th birthday party. I took her into the bathroom and put a swift end to that crap.
tinalib13

I was thinking that they’re part of the reason you grew up to be such a tough minded, yet sensitive woman.
CT

My Mother is the only one who deserves that credit. Thanks, Mom.
The_Yeti_Knows

If you apply online I’ll make you the Chief Operating body oiler after the first week.
And for you I’ve reduced the initiation fee to 800 cookies or a half hour on my mechanical bull in a thong.
The_Yeti_Knows

My mother left me at the mall of America once…………….we’re from Delaware .
C0NSTANTINE

I sometimes forget you have links when reading, lol good one
Digited

Okay, I’ve got to jump in on this one. My 7 year old son’s behavior had become increasingly disruptive at home, he had lost the desire to read, and he cried one morning when I wouldn’t sign his paper saying that he had completed something he hadn’t because he would miss recess. All of his behaviors were very unusual and I explained to him that he had to accept the consequences for his actions and miss recess. This is when he finally told me that he hadn’t had recess in as long as he could remember at this new school (about 4 months).

I spoke with his teacher and she said that he had missed recess recently for “bullying” other kids and failing to complete his work. I was blown away because that was not my son. Myself, my boyfriend, my ex-husband, and his wife all went to the school together to meet with the teacher to discuss it.

The “bullying” was explained that my son had told a girl she had short hair like a boy and the failure to complete work was missing capital letters and/or periods in his writing. She stated that she would have to hold him back if he didn’t improve. The best part was that she handed us his homework from the night before saying that he didn’t complete it. It was in SPANISH and this is second grade where they don’t teach Spanish. Her excuse was that she ran out of English copies. She admitted that he hadn’t been outside the classroom once for a break in at least 6 weeks and probably longer.

Now, my son wasn’t physically assaulted in the school but he was verbally and mentally by a passive-agressive bully using the title of teacher. We switched classes and everything went back to normal. My point is: the mom may very well be accurate in her statements. My son wasn’t “bullying” anyone and he sure as hell wasn’t going to be held back for missing a capital letter or not following instructions in a language he doesn’t even read. This kind of thing does happen so I’d give the mom at least some benefit of the doubt.
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

And it doesn’t mean they did, either. I’m giving the mother the benefit of the doubt as the mother is the one who went to the news and told them that she had never been contacted (even immediately after the slapping incident) and the school made their statement and did not contradict the mother’s statements. In fact, the teacher did not want the principal to notify the boy’s mother even after she had told the principal what happened — two weeks later, of course.

Even had they contacted her to inform her of their child’s bullying, and this is the route they took if the behavior persisted, I wouldn’t care if the mother had knocked out some of their teeth. Whatever you think is the right actions to take to curtail bullying with a 6-year-old boy, having an adult orchestrating a beat-down isn’t one of them and could very well make the problem even worse. Not to mention the kids who were coerced into hitting a classmate they may not have even known or had problems with. What these teachers did was just asinine.
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

Damned if they do? They didn’t even contact his mother about his alleged behavior, even after they disciplined him in this stupid fashion.
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

yeah, I am surprised at the commenters here supporting what these teachers did. One knew it was wrong immediately — to the point she stopped it and hid what happened for two weeks while the other, well, she’s obviously an idiot with no idea whatsoever on how to handle disruptive behavior in a kindergartner. And we still don’t even know what the boy supposedly did that warranted being slapped by his classmates at the instructions of an adult, but not bad enough to alert his parents. Jesus Christ.
David

I don’t think anyone is supporting the teachers in THIS case. Just said I’d support the action if it were a 16 year-old douchebag.
David

Hopefully she left you with some cash.
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

lol, yeah teenagers are scumbags. I almost slap mine on a daily basis… but he reminds me of me, so I let the sarcasm slide.
Abroad

In my younger sister’s kindergarten there was a boy who was known for biting. His parents volunteered to go to Africa as part of some development project and everybody heaved a sigh of relief. Later, when we heard that he had been bitten by a venomous snake and was dead, it only seemed fitting to us at the tender ages of five and seven. Much later still, of course, we found a heart to pity his parents, who must have been blaming themselves for the rest of their lives……..
The_Yeti_Knows

She pinned a note on me… said A+.. I thought she was talking about my grades… turns out it’s my blood type.
LadyLeopard

I’d need more information about the boy’s supposed bullying before deciding if a ball got dropped. However, having his classmates line up and slap him was entirely inappropriate. I’m not sure if they need criminal charges, but definitely the teacher that did the lining up needs to be out of the teaching profession.

New format problem:
Is it just me, or is up/down voting disabled for other people? I’m posting via Disqus, and I see others can vote for comments. I was able to do so a few days ago, but then that ability vanished. Do you have to do a fancy dance to be allowed to vote or what?
newstarshipsmell

Well this’ll really brighten your day up. Upon thinking about it, I’m vaguely recalling that they weren’t ordered to punch their classmate. They were ordered to kick him. And he was mildly retarded, which is what the bully was teasing him about.
Luvpugb

I wonder how they thought this could possibly help?
Athena

All too often, we forget that young children have rights. Had this happened at work, and your boss instructed your coworkers to line up and smack you because you were being a dick in a meeting or something, you’d probably file a police report. A civil suit would probably involve and punish the district, whereas criminal charges would specifically punish the one deserving of the punishment. I wouldn’t mind seeing criminal charges, but the dumb bitch getting fired is a good start.
http://www.facebook.com/amber.h.morrow.3 Amber Holt Morrow

As a person who was bullied since i was six and getting paddled or expelled when i tried to take up for myself, i think its a better solution than letting that kid go through life creating emotional scars for the good kids. Sure it may seem cruel and unusual but if that kid is treating other kids the way i was treated then he needs to understand to some degree how it feels.
Chinchillazilla

Mommy is always coming to his rescue.

I think if you don’t “come to the rescue” of your six-year-old who was hit at the urging of adults, you don’t deserve children.
tkaz

I’m so glad you posted this. As a mom of a 7 yr old my first thought was, “But the teachers don’t know what’s going on at home!” When I see bullying (not the kind where a young boy comments on a girls hair) I think, ok, well what’s the big picture? Why is this kid behaving like this?
My son was recently hurt by someone (it turns out it was a silly accident of 7 yr olds not thinking things through!) who had bullied him before. But…I’ve known the kid & his mom for 3 yrs. His parents are divorcing….it made sense.
Almost all schools have a bullying protocol these days – the teachers should have followed it.
http://talkinshitwithshannieandboo.blogspot.com/ BooKat

I imagine any parent would not be cool with finding out their kid’s teacher let the kid’s classmates slap the shit out of him and we’re supposed to be teaching the younger generation to keep their hands the fuck off of people. How many stories have been there been about some clownshoe who thought it was alright to put their hands on someone else and either harmed someone else to the extreme or ended up fucked themselves for fucking with the wrong person? I don’t know what the hell either teacher was thinking with this dumbass punishment, but obviously they were in the wrong. Just because they didn’t put their own hands on the kid doesn’t mean it’s cool to command the little ones to ’cause they’re minors…pretty shitty…
tinalib13

I was not implying that he deserved to be hit AT ALL. No child deserves being hit by anyone. Especially at the direction of a teacher he trusts. But we don’t know what is going on at his house either. The teachers should have definitely contacted the parents about the situation. And I would be livid if this ever happened to my own son. I would be after thesesteachers’ jobs. Im saying that as parents we need to teach our children to accept responsibility for their actions.

And don’t you EVER tell me I don’t deserve children. My son is a great well-adjusted child, who I have taught to accept responsibility for his actions. I started teaching him this at a very early age. Fuck you for saying that to me. Oh, and I edited my original comment to say MAYBE mommy is always coming to his rescue. Happy now?
JohnQknowitall

I don’t know why the mother doesn’t file the criminal charges. I don’t know why the school didn’t suspend the child for a week so the mother could pay someone to spend quality time with the brat.

How do you not know your child is an ass if you are not an ass yourself?
lespacino

This is an outrage! What’s wrong with these teachers? Don’t they know they are supposed to duct tape the kid to the wall then line the teachers up to smack him? Disgraceful!

Seriously, though I don’t approve of their methods, but I am at least glad somebody gives a shit about bullies. My poor brother was skinny as shit and mercilessly bullied on the bus- bus driver/transportation did nothing, so she drove him to school and back; He was bullied mercilessly in the classroom (where the teachers go all day, I don’t know, but they would leave the room all the time- with a student monitor?!), my Mom called the school, went to the school, met with the teachers and principal, all to no avail. They just told her there was nothing they could do because the kids’ parents wouldn’t do anything about the problem. One day, my brother was picked up off the ground, slammed against the wall, and held there as the piece of shit bigger kid repeatedly spit in his face. The poor little fellow had had enough, and cracked, he headbutted the kid- purely to get away, self-defense. Busted the fucker’s nose (fanfare!!!). Guess what? They suspended my brother quicker than you can say “jack rabbit.” Never suspended any of the bullies in all that time, but suspended my brother for trying to save himself. My Mom was pissed. They tried to justify it saying that he had “seriously injured” the other child. Fuck that shit, I wish he’d done worse to the little fucker. I don’t know how my poor brother survived grade school, but once he hit 10th grade people surprisingly left him alone. Yeah, that’s when he reached his current height- 6’3″ Funny how tough bullies are when you’re tiny, but how nice they can be when you’re huge! Somehow, though, my brother’s a cheery, good-natured guy now, anyway. Never did pulverize any of those douche bags, which is the first thing I would’ve done if given the chance.
Heather_Habilatory

I never said what they did was a good idea. I just know how parents work. Their kid is an angel, every one else’s children are to blame.
Lena60

I think both of these so called teachers need to be fired.
Lena60

That is a bunch of crap, I hope you reamed her a new asshole.Some people should not be teachers and she sounds like one of them.
Lena60

This just makes me heartsick for the child who was slapped and the other children who were forced to slap him.
Lucy Van Pelt

This is something that a teacher might THINK about for a second, before she goes on to deal with the situtation according to school rules about disipline. You don’t actually do it!!!!
Snickering Hydra

Bullies beware: Canst thou survive the kinder-gauntlet?
Digited

I don’t want to toot any horns or anything but I will say she wouldn’t look us in the eyes when we were done and I’m surprised she wasn’t fired because we called the principal in on the meeting halfway through.
Digited

I used to be a sub for a few years but I refused to work in a classroom under 4th grade because I was worried I’d end up on a site like this. I know myself that well. What gets me is why the first teacher even went along with such a moronic idea. The threat of that sort of punishment should have been enough to curtail behavior. And schools, even elementary, have an SRO for this particular reason: to handle children that don’t respond to state-supported methods of discipline.
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

The mother never said her kid is an angel. In fact, the kid admitted to acting up in the line. She said that the school never contacted her about it.
sarafina

She needs to sue the crap out of them for battery! Also they should press charges against the teacher! Absolutely, it’s child abuse. Heck some of the kids forced to be violent could also sue for ‘intentional infliction of emotional distress’ at the trauma of being forced to ‘beat’ another student.
http://profile.yahoo.com/7AAJ2TEEBCD2XMZ3YP4YGJ4GPE this is what i wear on vacatio

Let’s line up the lawyers for everything that happens in preschool! I got myself in a situation in 7th grade. It literally made me a pariah in school. Several bullies got talking and they “took care of me” The school had a third and out rule when it came to fighting, no matter what. I got the crap beat out of me in gym class by one, then a few days later, it happened by someone else, and the third time again…Well I did not fight back at all the second and third time because I knew I would get in more trouble at home. The coach witnessed the whole thing each time. He lied and the other kid lied too. I was suspended for fighting even though I didn’t fight at all.
Could I have sued anyone? Not without any witnesses, even though there were 48 of them including 4 coaches and assistants.
http://profile.yahoo.com/7AAJ2TEEBCD2XMZ3YP4YGJ4GPE this is what i wear on vacatio

Sounds just like what happened to me. I just learned how to take a punch. I never cried though. I had a senior football linebacker beat me up in 9th. I went home with one less tooth and the linebacker played that night. I wont forget that day either. He rode my bus that night all the way home he just flicked my ears. I got off the bus with my tooth in my pocket and my ears bleeding and with the knowledge that bullies can do what they want when they want.
http://profile.yahoo.com/7AAJ2TEEBCD2XMZ3YP4YGJ4GPE this is what i wear on vacatio

I have helped as a volunteer in my kids school a little. I was talking to my kids teacher one afternoon and some of the stories from her classroom would bring tears to any human. Kids coming to school dirty, wearing the same clothes 3 days in a row, bullying, and the stuff you would find here on DD. One never knows what these kid’s homelife is like at all.
JGo555

As a teacher I find the teachers’ “problem solving skills” absurd & completely unacceptable. The first thing you do is TELL THE FUCKING PARENTS!! Not only that but a child that age, acting up means: problems in the house, a psychological problem or a physical problem.
And while it would feel tasty to slap a bully in general, IT’S A FUCKING 6 YEAR OLD!! YOU CAN PHYSICALLY HANDLE THEM!
JustBrowsingLife

I think this should be instituted like a dress code in restaurants….. Only line up the parents that ignore the brats spooning mashed potatoes down my neck and in my purse.
JustBrowsingLife

Sister Mary of the ruler regiment? I know her!
Vunderlak

Insane. We all agree that bullies should be fed to starving wolves, but for the love of God the kid is six years old. If you are a teacher who cannot handle a six year old acting up you’re in the wrong profession. And if by some miracle you can’t cause it’s Damian from The Omen or something you do have other options besides raising a munchkin sized army and teaching them sadism at such a tender age. If I found out one of my kids was a bully I would have a fit. If I found out one of his teachers forced him to beat on another kid I would have his/her job and ass. And if my son was the one receiving the sanctioned beating heads would roll.
CT

Like I said earlier, I don’t support what the teacher did. I’d go nuts if a teacher did this to my kid but having said that – you see it more times than not – parents take little to no responsibility for their kids. They make up bullshit excuses for their kids being fuck ups. Yes, there is always two sides to the story and just because I don’t necessarily agree that this child may not have been as innocent as the parent claims he is – it doesn’t mean I believe he should have gotten a beat down by other little kids. I don’t allow my sons to misbehave in public, be dickheads to other kids and so on. It’s my job to be sure that they don’t turn out to be dickheads and I take that job seriously.
sugarpie

I get what you’re saying, but what about the rights of the children who this boy was bullying? Had this happened at work, the boy would have been fired (I would hope) and then the incident wouldn’t have happened. Is there a way to teach children lessons in bullying without crossing the line? Probably not. But letting the parents know and maybe getting the boy some couseling might have been the better route.
sugarpie

I’m not disagreeing with any of your stand on this one Morbid. What they did was way over the line. Their intentions were to teach this boy a lesson and I’m sure they did succeed, but their methods were certainly not worthy of a text book write up of how to cure a bully.
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

Might have been the better route?
http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

I think most are aware of this. But there has been absolutely no indication of a bad home life for this kid, and as far as the school has been concerned, no bullying from the child that warranted contacting anyone at all.
abbys_mom

I was pretty disgusted myself, reading the commenters on this news story that supported this abuse. We have to be careful throwing out the title of “bully”. People need to consider that the only thing clear is that the boy was acting up in line, and to my understanding, maybe fussing with other kids who might have deemed that bullying.

There’s no specific “kindergartner gone wild” descriptions that describe rampant bullying. He’s SIX, and these days even getting into an argument with another kid can cause an outcry of bullying. At that age, and being only in kindergarten which is a new experience and a chance for kids to learn how to behave, share, not hit, etc…honestly, it seems that it’s not so much bullying as just being mean, which I believe over time, if not disciplined, will turn into genuine bullying…which is why the first time a kid bites, hits, or speaks mean to other kids, that’s an opportunity to teach them, NOT call them a bully and give up on them. I had kids in kindergarten have little fights and I’ve been pushed down and called “freckles”, only to have that boy become my best friend. He wasn’t a “bully”, he was acting out, and was punished appropriately for it. There’s a difference between that and bullying.
Really, the true bully here is the teacher. I’d be pissed if I found out my kid was forced to hit another child, when crying out not to have to do it.
LeaveMeBe

Too bad your kids don’t have a younger sibling. When my son was in 2nd grade there was a girl who “liked” him who always tripped him, punched him in the back of the head and swung him around by his shirt collar on the playground and face planted him into the gravel or playground equipment. He always had nicks and scrapes and sometimes a bruise. The teachers and school did nothing and because we taught him not to hit girls (except his little sister) he didn’t retaliate and wouldn’t even defend himself. We told him self-defense was fine but he refused. So one night when we were all at the dinner table I jokingly said, “Well then, I guess your little sister (kindergartener) needs to handle this.” The next day during recess my daughter hung back when it was time for her class to line up to go in and spotted the girl chasing her brother. She went and took care of business without ever uttering a word until the very end when she told the girl, “Don’t touch my Bubby again or I’ll be back.” When the teacher called to tell me what happened even she had a hard time holding in her laughter. Oh, and the girl wouldn’t even look at my son after that.
abbys_mom

Someone who is going to line kids up and make them hit another kid, and yell out “hit him harder!” clearly has an issue with abuse herself. I’m not so sure she didn’t just dislike this kid and want to hurt him. Also, the “bully” title is thrown around way to much. I got into little skirmishes in kindergarten, was called a few names, and the situations were dealt with and the kids punished and remorseful. That’s actually normal, especially for kids who’ve never been around many kids at a time and kindergarten represents a new experience, because you’re learning how to behave
around a lot of children. there’s a difference between acting up, and bullying. And I don’t think they succeeded in anything but abuse and humiliation, which actually CONTRIBUTES to bullying behavior and makes it worse.
abbys_mom

She’s not talking about suing the kids, but the TEACHERS, and pressing criminal charges. That is child abuse…is it ok to let a teacher decide to let your kid be hit, and encourage them to do it? And to FORCE kids who dont’ want to do it to hit the kid?
CT

Ready. Got the thong. Await more details.
CT

LMAO.

I have been drilling into my “bigger” son that he needs to be sure to take care of his brother. The power of twins. Plus my smaller guy is a sneaky shit. They now steer clear of Mr. Ojete thankfully.
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And that is when it is our jobs as teachers to step in and not just talk about what these children may be going through at home. If the child stays dirty call DHS. We as teachers are mandated reporters and we need to step up to the plate no matter how irritating and lengthy the process is.

Maybe the children are dirty not because mom/dad don’t care but possibly because the water got cut off. We need to step up as a community and see what can be done to help people have better lives so that our children don’t become statistics.

I’ve stepped up to big ass thugs who I saw picking on and bullying another students and at one point had to ask one student (6’2 easily 250 lbs) did he want me to point out all of his issues in front of everyone like he is doing the other student and told him to call his mother so we can discuss the whole thing while she was there. He backed up and shut down. If there was a problem after that it wasn’t done in front of me.

We became teachers for a reason (hopefully) to do what is best by and for these children and if we can’t handle the job then we need to find another profession.

They should look at us like a good parent when they are away from theirs, a guidance counselor, a psychologist and someone that they know has their best interest at heart. Most importantly we need to keep in CONSTANT COMMUNICATION with the parents about all issues so that there is an open and honest flow of communication for the child to be the best student that they can.

I don’t know the circumstances behind this article but from what I see these teachers failed, imo.
sugarpie

Yes might have been, but meaning if there are other solutions to curb this boys bullying behavior, get-r-done (whatever they are).
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Awesome! We need more parents like you. I too pride myself on not raising little assholes but you are right about parents blaming everyone else in the world for their child’s behavior but themselves. I’ll be happy when this fad of being your children’s friend passes.
LeaveMeBe

I am so glad y’all got to the heart of this for your son. Poor little thing, he couldn’t verbalize what was happening and had been cowed into believing he deserved it. I, too, had a totally haphazard and passive aggressive teacher for my son when he was in the 4th grade. Mind you, my son has a reading disability so this was a special ed reading/writing teacher. He was more frustrated than normal and began acting out with her and even at home which was totally unlike him. Apparently, he was getting into trouble for “correcting” her all the time. (He had trouble reading but had an amazing grasp of vocabulary from being read to and being raised by a mother who loves to read). I got a note from her with horrible spelling and grammar about how terribly my son was doing in his work. O_o I was floored. Needless to say, after a short meeting with the principal, she was no longer his teacher. I found out later that she was no longer a teacher in the school district within a few weeks.
sugarpie

Oh right, that bullying title is thrown around way to much. Just ask the kids who are getting bullied and you might get a different reaction. My nephew is now and has been a victim of bullying from the same group of kids since kindergarden and he is now going into 3rd grade. His mother has been battling the school for 3 years trying to get something done. Even seperating him into different classes doesn’t help. He hates school and is afraid to attend. She has contacted the parents herself. Yes kids in kindergarden can be bullies. I’m NOT sticking up for the teachers at all. Should they have done things differently – YES. Was it abuse – YES. But I don’t think that teachers should turn their backs on the bullying behavior even at the kindergarden level. If they know they can get away with it there, it only escalates as they get older. Sure we all had experiences in school and it may or may not have been bullying by all accounts. But read the news and tell the parents whose kids killed themselves that the term “bullying” is thrown around too much.
LeaveMeBe

I’m about sick and tried of every behavior a child exhibits towards another child being labeled as bullying. I mean sick to death of it! Just like I got sick and tired of every single child in school with my kids being diagnosed with ADD and ADHD and being medicated for it. We are a label crazy society and we need to save the labels for the real issues and quit using them as a catch-all and a damn crutch for excuses. Man I’m pissed! As for these two teachers, they are way more scary than any bullying I’ve ever heard of because of their positions of power over children.
The_Yeti_Knows

Very nice, now the only stipulation is that it used to belong to Oprah, is camouflage and autographed… in that case I’ll take it off your hands and your initiation will be free of charge. But I could get you slobber assed drunk and put you up on the bull if you like ? ( the mechanical one is fun too )
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Sorry, I did not mean to imply with suing the children. I think I let my bipolar get loose here. The teachers should be instructed upon proper discipline practices. It does not mean to give each teacher a paddle with holes in them like my teachers had. I still feel the sting of all the licks I got in school.
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“if the child stays dirty call department of homeland security!” – but in all seriousness, you are more right than anyone else’s statements I have read on this subject. Good to know there are real teachers out there in public schools still. Kudos to you /tips hat
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also, your idea for community charity is top fucking notch, way better than any government proposed welfare system. I say Angels Mom for president!!
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Thank you! I didn’t think anyone actually read my soapbox rant. LOL

I absolutely believe that if neighbors were still neighbors and a communities really cared about the citizens in them we would not have many of the problems that we have today.
sherrdbw

I can’t see how this teacher could think this was a good idea. If the kid really is a bully, then he needs some counseling now before some other kid shots him.
beezor

I think DHS is department of human services. CPS, DYFS, I think they all have different names in different states.
http://www.facebook.com/Leashaness Alicia Lynee’

Why do teachers always simply get put on paid leave after being accused of shit like this? Forcing young children to physically abuse another and they’re just on a little fucking vacation and they’ll be right back in the classroom. Yeah, I’m sure that TOTALLY “re-educates” the twits. I wish this family well with filing criminal charges, this is just unacceptable.
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I seriously question if what the teachers accused him of were true. I know it’s possible, but how was the kid “bullying” in line, cutting? Maybe he didn’t do anything even remotely bad. It’s easy for adults to lose patience & get angry with kids sometimes, and from the rest of the details in this story, it’s definitely something that was blown way out of proportion (ie the teacher ordering the kid be physically abused).
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A kid being that cruel is probably treated like shit at home, though. Might not necessarily be his fault he’s such a satan’s spawn. It’s so unfortunate these cycles affect multiple kids/families.
Tanya Mobley

This “teacher” would not be safe were this my 6 year old. (whose name is also Aidan) No hole deep enough for her to wither in that I would not dig her out!! That being screamed, my son wouldn’t be bullying anyone and not having his “room painted with his ass cheeks” as the great “Morbid” said!!

I will defend my own against all enemies (foreign and/or domestic) and by God I will also not put a human being out in the world that is someone else’s “enemy” to worry about!!

PS For all you “Moms” (I use that term very loosely) that are featured on here NOT protecting your kids ;
The domestic part of that pledge is for any ASSMONKEY from INSIDE your home /family/ relationships that try to hurt your kids!!! You are their ONLY defense. No penis, bill payer, or drug supplier comes before the simple pledge that you OWE your children!!

PPS I love Morbid