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Community Rallies Behind Man Who Beat Daughters Abuser To DeathShiner, TX – There’s a bit more information regarding the man who beat another man to death after catching him sexually molesting his daughter. It helps paint a better picture of what transpired that day. Still no names, though.

A 23-year-old father was barbecuing with his family on a rural, trademark ranch when his 5-year-old daughter ran behind a nearby barn to feed some chickens.

Some time later the girl’s father heard her screaming and ran to investigate. There, behind the barn, he found a 47-year-old acquaintance of the family in the the act of sexually assaulting his daughter.

The father pulled the man off and repeatedly punched him in the head before calling 911 to inform police of what happened. By time they arrived, the unidentified man was already dead. A preliminary autopsy report shows the man had died from blunt-force head and neck injuries.

The man was known in the area for his horse grooming capabilities and had arrived at the ranch with a few other people. While the father’s family reportedly knew the man, it has not been reported if he was known to the girl or her father. Well, at least not before the introduction behind the barn.

Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said earlier this week that no charges have been filed against the father.

“You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney, who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him.”

Others in the community agree that the father, who expressed remorse over the man’s death, was justified in his actions. They describe the father as a “good, honest, hard-working kid” who has never been in trouble.

“Any father would have done that,” Michael James Veit, who lives across the road from the ranch where the killing took place. “Everybody is saying the father is justified.”

Shortly after the news broke other residents gathered at a popular convenience store that sells beer, bait and ammo. They echoed the same sentiments, saying they would have done the same or worse.

“A lot of people have said that he got what he had coming to him. That’s been the consensus. They’ve been supportive of doing what needed to be done to take care of the problem,” said Howard Gloor, owner of the convenience store.

The fact that the man died from blunt force trauma to the neck confirms for me, at least right now, that this was not an unnecessarily long beating that a lawyer could argue went past the realm of self-defense. All it takes is one shot.

Hell, we just had a story last year where people at a party were paying $5 to be punched by a girl. After one guy paid for his punch and received his winnings, he collapsed and died moments later because the punch had opened up a vein in his neck.

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  • PhantasmaGora

    Justifiable negligent homicide. I would have killed him outright. Not like oops. Go dad!

  • CT

    What is the old ass saying, don’t do the crime, if you can’t take getting the shit beat of you for being a perv?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=534372011 Georgia Meyer

    I feel so bad for the young man, while his actions were completely justified it does not mean he won’t have trouble dealing with the fact that the man died. I hope his daughter and he are able to get the help they will need to deal with such a vile act and its outcome. But I will also say, that young man has my support and if it comes down to being charged with anything I would send him money for his attorneys fees-so many people talk a good game about protecting their children, few are ever actually put to the test, thankfully.

  • OutOfBubbleGum

    Why am I always broke?

    If I had the money, I’d buy that farm. Welcome to the KP (Killer Perv) Ranch. We’re a family ranch that teaches PERV BRANDING, PERV ROPING, and PERV KILLING.

    We’d have PERV rodeos with PERV barbeques. Any and everything one could image. Like in long age days of past generations, I’d sell PERV skulls that mount to your cars hood replacing that old worn out steer skull. Can you say “tickets to where it happened?” Can you say “PERV KILLING reenacting?” “Can you say Chinese made PERV action figure with the kung fu grip like neck break?”

    There’s so much money to be made here and I don’t have any……

  • chgplz

    A dad that protected his child and now the law wants to prosecute him for it? hell no!! Rally the troops…Social Media to the rescue !! lol.. I hate dad has to live with the fact he killed a man but one less perv doesn’t hurt my feelings one bit. Hopefully he can think of the children he saved and not the deadguy.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Well per the video, it looks like Shiner, TX runs a modeling agency for those who wish to aspire to a DD mugshot.

  • Zazen

    So about this convenience store that sells beer, ammo and bait… I’m imagining everyone sitting in front in rocking chairs. That would be perfect.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    I’ve heard that there’s a lawyer going around saying that what the father did was wrong. I think he’s just sniffing around to flush out some of the perv’s family so that they can file a wrongful death lawsuit and he can get a fat check. If he ever manages to get that far, I hope he gets laughed out of court.

    Meanwhile, I find myself wondering if the late perv who was “known for his grooming skills” confined himself to forcing himself on children, or if there is a string of horses who were groomed and then sexually assaulted as well.

  • Justagirl

    What??

  • LoKi4778

    I don’t think that the Law in Texas is itchin’ to put this guy away, but there is due process to think about. While, yes, I wholly agree that that perv got what was coming to him, we do have an established legal process that EVERY crime, however justifiable, needs to go through. I think that the police were just saying that, even though the community is supportive, they still have a job to do to ensure that this perv’s family can’t sue them for bungling the investigation or the legal process.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I don’t like this one particular quote “He acted in defense of his third person.” The reason I don’t like it is that if this is actually what the Lavaca County Sheriff stated it seems to me that he needs to think more before speaking,or he needs remedial training – no one has a “third person”. While you may in fact act in defense of a third person – even if we look at the sentence in this way it brings up questions … such as who exactly was the second person he was defending ,if that person was not in fact the child ?

    “The right of self-defense (according to U.S. law) (also called, when it applies to the defense of another, alter ego defense, defense of others, defense of a third person) is the right for civilians acting on their own behalf to engage in violence for the sake of defending one’s own life or the lives of others, including the use of deadly force.”

  • Texas Ranger

    “Shortly after the news broke other residents gathered at a popular convenience store that sells beer, bait and ammo.”
    Morbid, you act like this actually identifies this particular store. Could be one of millions in Texas.

  • LoKi4778

    it is possible, however unlikely, that he jokingly replaced the article “a” with “his” when referring to the third person because it was the guys daughter, like “he was acting in defense of a third person… his third person.” I’d like to actually hear the quote to determine the context in which he said that.

  • CT

    Like Cracker Barrel?

  • LeaveMeBe

    From everything that is being reported, I can’t see them indicting him. The fact that he is remorseful just blows my mind and tells me what a good person he must be. I hope he and his family can come to terms with all of this and move on quickly. I won’t say “yay” for dad because I have a feeling he wouldn’t want that but I am glad that this POS molester got what was coming to him.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Hey now, Shiner is a wonderful little town and they have a kick-ass brewery and produce my favorite beer. And the people are as friendly as can be except to fuckers who want to hurt children.

  • LeaveMeBe

    And he didn’t list the other wonderful things they sell there like the fishin’ hooks and the dirty books!

  • LeaveMeBe

    At this time of year, they’re all gather inside hanging out in front of the swamp cooler drinking beer because it’s too damn hot to be outside for long.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I know this place !!! It’s the one over there … great place to buy your bait,and beer … oh,and your ammo too.

  • Andyman

    That was my first thought too. lol. Kudos to the dad, I can’t imaging a jury that would convict him even if they did bring charges.

  • curiousalways

    Isn’t it “defense of a third person” because one person is the defender, the second is the abuser and the third is the person who is being defended? I’m just glancing at all this so this may not be what is being discussed. Sorry, but I’m at work so I don’t have a lot of time to make sure I’m correct.

  • Andyman

    Like cracker barrel only not nearly as nice is my guess.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Dirty mags ??? I’m amazed they still sell those … shits free online …

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    It’s the country – what do you expect to find out in the country ?

  • Zwietracht

    It’s refreshing to actually read a story where a human piece of shit actually gets what it deserves, and in a case involving a parent it’s one where the parent is actually doing what they should instead of being said piece of shit.
    If that makes sense, I need my coffee.
    That being said, hopefully the little girl and her dad both get the counseling and help they need to move past the incident. I bet her dad will always be a hero to her.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “And the people are as friendly as can be except to fuckers who want to hurt children.

    First I would have to review minority stats for “Shiner – typically you don’t find many Blacks in these towns – if any … and typically these people like it that way – if you get my point.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    No – it’s just wrong usage. No,biggie though – it’s understood what was meant.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    lol … you guys crack me up … but I like the basic idea – let’s all gather round,drink beer and party çause one less perv is out there … I’m in.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    HA !!!

  • LeaveMeBe

    Dude, would Kevin Fowler lie? I think not.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Honestly, I don’t recall how many Blacks there are there. I don’t pay attention to things like that. (As of the 2000 Census approximately 11 % of the townsfolk were African American and Shiner had a population of 2,070.) But I would hedge a bet that they are way more concerned with perpetual visitors from further south, if you catch my drift.

  • LeaveMeBe

    *facepalm* No, not like Cracker Barrell. Not by a long shot. Come visit me and I’ll take you there and show you.

  • polomint38

    If they bring the case to court, it would be case of Jury nullification anyway, so a waste of public money.

    I’ve E-mailed the queen to ask her to give the man a Knighthood.

  • Texas Ranger

    I was totally singin that song in my head when I commented, started to add it, but figgerd only us “cultured” folk would know what I meant.

  • BEastDuo

    maybe the only one in Shiner though ;)

  • Andyman

    I went and found the “most beat up gas station ever” pic and was going to attach it here as a joke but it looks like this new format doesn’t allow for attachments. Progress. lol

  • Zazen

    Here’s another thought; Town name karma: Shiner’s got it. Granted, the perv got way more than a shiner but w/e.

  • LeaveMeBe

    One of my faves by him. The other is that wonderful love ballad “What I Wouldn’t Do For Your Love”. Makes me weep.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Haha! Foiled by progress. :) I think y’all would be surprised. Shiner is a pretty little historic town that is well cared for. Yes, the folks talk slow and move slow and it’s not a hopping place (except during October during their Bocktober fest) but the people who live their take pride in their town and with the Spoetzel brewery right there their economy is pretty good, too. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I had no idea who Kevin Fowler was – none – had to Google him … country singer … sings some song titled “That Girl ” ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Those figures are in line with what I was thinking … and when you are Black – you always think about this sort of thing – it’s kinda like breathing … and Ced’s been burned a lot by racist people in Ced’s lifetime.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I do not at this time believe he will be indicted either … however I don’t actually believe the death was unintended. I just think the father of the girl is playing it smart.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I noticed that too … no more funny pic postings :(

  • CT

    I’m originally from PA. I know all too well what it is. I try to forget certain parts of my past when I can.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Swamp coolers make things worse. They make a humidity that you can cut with a knife. Just put me on the front porch with a mason jar of lemonade, rocking chair, and some OFF.

  • http://truecrimereport.com iLLusionS

    I am glad the community is standing behind him.
    Anyone with any sense as a parent would have turned into a “mother bear” so to speak, and probably become quite animalistic in defense of their children.
    His reaction to this was normal.
    I doubt he meant to kill him, but at that moment it didn’t really matter.
    He did. and so be it…………..
    I just hope he and his daughter can heal from this.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Personally I love towns that try to hold on to their roots (look wise). Small town, dirt roads, 1 Post Office, and a stop light. :)

  • Texas Ranger

    I don’t know…”It’s cheaper to keep her, than to let her go”…seems to be my life-anthem.

  • Texas Ranger

    Small correction Ced….Texas Country Singer….there IS a difference.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Well stated.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Duly noted Sir.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I am a camper,and I like to “visit”places like you describe … unfortunately I don’t usually feel safe in those places … kind of a shame … I actually feel safer in the big city where everyone is getting killed equally.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    So you’re from the country ? What part of your past are you attempting to forget ?

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Trust me, I do understand.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Yes, that would be him. He sings a lot of great songs. Check out What I Wouldn’t Give For Your Love, 100% Texan, Beer Season, I Ain’t Drinkin’ Anymore or Senorita Mas Fina. You’ll become an instant fan, I promise.

  • LeaveMeBe

    HAHA! At the very least you need an industrial size workshop fan, even on the front porch. My happy ass stays inside between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. :)

  • LeaveMeBe

    You’re scaring me. I was talking about the picturesque places.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Well let’s see if external links work…

    http://www.travel-images.com/pht/hawaii71.jpg

  • newstarshipsmell

    Yep, looks like they work. Looks like they open in a new tab instead of a popup on the same page, which is a bit annoying to me, but at least you still get the preview below your comment.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Some sign of newly introduced genes.

  • Califboy

    My reply to the arriving officer “whoops”

  • curiousalways

    gotcha.

  • CT

    It’s OK. I be living in the big city now.

  • CT

    Hey Califboy, long time, no see.

  • newstarshipsmell

    It takes a village…

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I don’t know if you’re serious about the Knighthood, but shit, that’s actually a really good idea!

  • Heather_Habilatory

    That’s fine and dandy, because when it comes up in front of a grand jury, it will be people from Shiner, his peers, and it doesn’t sound like a single one of them is going to indict.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    From what I’ve heard, he may have not been in the states legally, so finding his family might be difficult.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    ND has like… 3% African American population, but if someone makes a racist comment towards one, you can guarantee there will be immediate and swift backlash.

    Just because a population doesn’t have a lot of minorities doesn’t mean it’s because of racism.

    It’s cuz it’s too damn cold here.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I think I love you. When I can understand you.

  • sherrdbw

    Cedric, you know us Texans are better than other folk.

  • sherrdbw

    ;)

  • sherrdbw

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the family of the child rapist sues the father for wrongful death.

  • Abroad

    That is not the sort of queens they have in Texas……..

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I’m sure they have a large fan at the filling station that I but borrow for a bit. ;)

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    That could be fixed up kinda nice.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    I know. But we’ll ask THE Queen. you know. of Britain.
    Anyone got her email address, phone number?

  • Heather_Habilatory

    Rumor is the dead guy was in Texas illegally. Do they still have the right to sue then?

  • sherrdbw

    I know of a case in CA in which cops had caught a van full of illegal aliens being smuggled into the country. After the van had stopped, the people inside were trying to escape and police (on video, of course) used excessive force i.e. a beatdown, to stop them. The IAs sued the police dept and anyone connected with the incident and either won or were settled with. See, crime does pay.

  • sherrdbw

    My mom is English and, ironically, had gone to the Queen’s garden parties when she was younger. My Grandpa was a mayor of a borough of London and my mom has/had two cousins that were members of the House of Commons. That’s why she was invited to some of the palace events.

  • sherrdbw

    At least the CM won’t be raping anymore kids.

  • sherrdbw

    My mom is English and, ironically, had gone to the Queen’s garden parties when she was younger. My Grandpa was a mayor of a borough of London and my mom has/had two cousins that were members of the House of Commons. That’s why she was invited to some of the palace events.

  • http://mysticwicks.com/ Kaylara

    Yeah, I remember that case. They had the people in handcuffs already and continued to beat the shit out of them. That’s a bit more than a “beatdown”.

  • sherrdbw

    My perception of a “beatdown” is beating the shit out of someone. Maybe I used the incorrect term. Anyway, the point of the comment is whether or not illegal aliens can sue for injuries received while committing a crime. The cops lost their tempers while doing their jobs and they can’t get away with that, even when the person they are beating is a criminal. It’s a confusing situation.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    So YOU are our Knighthood in then, yes?! haha

  • pikeman

    How about all of us on DD pitch in on this “Perv Killing Ranch”. Then we’ll lure them there like on “To Catch a Predator” and instead of busting them, we’ll just waste them. After we brand and rope them, that is. Hell, we could even keep their scalps for trophies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anndking Annie King

    Child molestation and child homicide should be treated severely and (in the legal system)with the death penalty…I truly believe they should handle it like they do in some rural areas of the country…if a mountain town is being over run by wolves or cougars(etc.)they open laws to shoot on site so they can thin them out and make it manageable and safer for the neighborhood…why not do the same with child predators…I mean…they are animals of the worst kind, aren’t they?

  • captaingrumpy

    This idea that everyone needs help to get over a bad moment is pure shit. I went to vietnam and saw what nobody wants to see.I handled it and I think it made me a better person,and a stronger person for that matter.There are too many sissies today that get upset over being called names.The young mothers of today are bringing up a bunch of pansies. There will be no football in America soon because of pansies. Mark my words.

  • newstarshipsmell

    “There will be no football in America soon because of pansies.”

    Please don’t tease me with nonsense-talk like that.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/ Dakota Valkyrie

    A young Texas father who beat to death with his fists a man molesting his 5-year-old daughter will not be charged, authorities said Tuesday as they released a dramatic 911 tape of the dad frantically pleading for help before the hired ranch helper died.

    A Lavaca County grand jury Tuesday declined to indict the 23-year-old father in the death of Jesus Mora Flores, 47. Prosecutors said the grand jury reached same conclusion as police after reviewing the evidence: The father was authorized to use deadly force to protect his daughter.
    [...]

    http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20120619-texas-father-wont-face-charges-in-alleged-attackers-death.ece

  • Zazen

    ‘”What I Wouldn’t Give For Your Love”. Makes me weep.’

    I know what you mean. “A Lap Dance Is So Much Better When the Stripper Is Crying” does the same to me.

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  • LeaveMeBe

    Who knew we were such emotional gals? *shrugs* Our secret is out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Yates/100003358613593 David Yates

    I wouldn’t nominate him for father of the year, his little girl did get raped, but his reaction couldn’t have been more predictable. I am sure I would just start with a beating and then start the real punishment (something involving rope and 2-4 horses). They got this one right, no indictment, no punishment whatsoever should be levied at this father.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Yates/100003358613593 David Yates

    It’s because then everyone would swear to god that their neighbor was a closet PERV, and their postman, and the guy at the gas station, and the mayor, and farmer Gus, and their 5th grade teacher…..

  • LoKi4778

    Are you kidding? Right now, it seems they have more of a right than you or I being here legally.

  • Heather_Habilatory

    No. I’m not kidding. And fuck this guy, legal or not.
    But if you come here illegally, don’t fucking rape our kids. Or we will kill you.