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Man Accused Of Burning, Biting Lips Off Of KittenPALM COAST, Fla. – This story started off about a man who admitted to biting the lips off a kitten, but the more articles I read about it, along with comments from friends and family of the accused, the more a popular subject on our D’D Podcasts kept coming to the surface; What should society do with the mentally ill who commit criminal acts?

I’ll address that question in a minute, but first here are the details surrounding 28-year-old Angel Roman’s arrest for abusing his roommates’ kittens. If you want the short version of this entire article, it’s the last sentence. You’re welcome.

Roman was living with two women who had rented a room to him. He reportedly spent a lot of time with his roommate’s kittens and was often seen holding them and caring for them. It is believed he began abusing the animals after his roommates went out of town, leaving Roman to care for them.

While they were gone, Roman called the women to inform them he had found someone interested in taking two of the kittens off their hands, to which the women agreed. A couple days after returning home, one of the remaining kittens was found dead. It was initially chalked up to a natural death, as there weren’t any noticeable injuries to the animal.

But later, another kitten named Oreo was found suffering from injuries that they thought may have come from being attacked by another cat. When the injuries grew worse, they realized that another cat could not be responsible for the injuries, unless a cat had figured out how to use fire.

When Roman was confronted, he admitted to choking the kitten found dead earlier, and to burning the ears and whiskers of Oreo, as well as biting off the kitten’s lips. He told police he hurt the kittens because he was upset about his girlfriend leaving him. On May 20, the women turned over Oreo to to Palm Coast’s animal control division and a veterinarian would later confirm that the kitten’s injuries were consistent with Roman’s statements. The two kittens that were “given away” have not been accounted for.

On the same day Oreo was turned over, Roman was Baker Acted after an official from Flagler and Volusia Support Services requested it.  Three days later, a judge signed a warrant for Roman’s arrest on felony charges of cruelty to animals. Roman turned himself in on May 26, and is now in jail on $100,000 bond.

That’s the story, and of course many people commented on the many articles out there, stating that Roman needed to put in jail for a long time, that he needed to have his lips bitten off, that he was a potential serial killer, etc, etc. But one article by FlaglerLive.com presented an issue that we have discussed on the site ad nauseam – especially with the recent, horrific cases of the mentally disturbed committing horrific acts.

Roman suffers from several mental illnesses. He was born a crack baby and adopted by a family who, according to his sister, did everything they could for Roman growing up. He has been on medications all his life and has a history of arrests for domestic battery, breach of the peace, disorderly conduct, criminal mischief and trespassing.

The issue is that like his past arrests, he will be placed in jail for this and then later released suffering from the same mental issues he had before he was locked up. Roman needs professional help, either voluntarily or involuntarily, but as the Flagler Live article points out, beds in state treatment facilities are few and they are expensive. Add in the fact that the state is investing less money in caring for the mental health of the indigent, and society is left with mentally ill people walking the streets untreated and carrying long rap sheets.

Aside from those who just want the mentally ill off the streets regardless of how, or if, it will actually help society in the long run, there are others who say that Roman’s reportedly large family should be the ones to bear the responsibility of his care, not the taxpayers. If we were talking about a juvenile belonging to a large family with money, I might agree. But we are talking about a 28-year-old man.

I expect knee-jerk, reactionary comments on all of our articles. But does anyone think there is a solution to the mentally ill who begin posing a threat to society? One that benefits both the individual and the society they live in? If they are deemed treatable, is jail truly the best recourse? If not, who pays for their treatment? I’m not sure there is a solution that would address all cases, but surely there has to be a better way than just letting them spend a few nights in jail, or a mental facility, before releasing them back into society like a ticking time-bomb.

tl;dr

Man with history of mental illness bites lips off kitten and arrested. Some calling for treatment instead of jail.

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  • onlyme356

    “He was born a crack baby and adopted by a family who, according to his sister, did everything they could for Roman growing up.”

    But did they ever kick his ass – Real hard?

    Ironically, he kind of looks like a kitten and as far as what we should do about these people..I think they should be put down. However, that’s not an option in our country, so tax dollars *should* go to keeping them institutionalized where they can’t harm other people. Or kittens.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lorraine.nation.3 Lorraine Nation

    That is really scary.  Picking up a living thing and biting  parts off it? 

  • curiousalways

    I’m thinking I was doing just fine mentally until I found this sight.  So Morbid, who’s gonna pay for my care?    :)

  • onlyme356

    Seriously I still don’t know how I got here, or why I keep coming back. I think I need help.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    It’s an interesting question Morbid, one that I have often thought of myself- I have mental illness running in my extended family, one member of which is spending his life in a mental institution. I know that not everyone who has a mental disorder is dangerous or a threat to the society. But for those that are and have been proven to be, I personally would like to see them live separately from the rest of the society- I know that it’s a controversial thing to say and will get shtick for it probably, but from what I have seen how my uncle lives in his “special city” it has made me convinced that that’s the best way to be. He says that living where he does (it’s sort of a block of a city with houses/ flats, shops etc. only fenced off from the rest of the city) he feels safe, safe in knowing that there’s someone who will make sure that he takes his meds, safe in knowing that he lives with like- minded people, that he is understood, that there are people that actually know of his condition and what it means and so on. And his sentiment is actually resonated by many other residents that I have had a chance to speak to. I must add that 90% of residents there are there voluntarily, only some have been placed there through the system and so on.

    So maybe it is something worth considering. Controversial as it might be. 

  • OutOfBubbleGum

    In Dune, you had to milk a cat daily for the antidote to a poison administered to him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stacey-McLaughlin/1611735600 Stacey McLaughlin

    This is a hard one. Because “treatable’ implies medications, medications that he himself would be responsible for taking on a regular basis. And even then, what about when he builds up a tolerance to said medications, and this time there is no kitten, but there’s a baby. Or Mom, or random stranger walking past him on a causeway? So then you are left with, institutions. Facilities that history shows, don’t always stack up to the “care” part. Do you lock them away, for the well being of others who might be hurt in the future, and the well being of themselves, zombie them out with high doses of medications, where family and public can forget they exist? Do you put them in Jail where they are a danger to the dangerous people? There is NO benefits any medications can give him. They can control the voices, they can control the rage, they can even control his impulse to fly, but they do not cure him. A treatment is a plan for “wellness” he will never be well, always just medicated. And off medications he knows not what he does so to speak. There is nothing wrong with his actions off medications because it’s not black and white to him, it’s one big blurry play land. So my plan, to get back to the point, would be to take all the truly mentally disturbed (not the slightly depressed, not the bi polar but knows they are, and knows their meds make their life better, not the anxiety disorder people etc.) the ones that bite kittens, rape 3 day olds, eats faces…in a very large SHU with every pedophile, rapist, and child beater known. Let the problem work it’s self out. if they lose control, and stab someone in the eye with their shank of toe nail clippings, it will be either another crazy toe nail welding inmate, or a baby raper….I see no big lose in life.

  • Lind Say

    Baby kitten lips?! What should society do with him? Press delete.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sarah-Silcox-Martin/1460419094 Sarah Silcox Martin

    That seems to be happening a LOT lately. 

  • Flo Robison

    If you commit a crime big or small and make attempts to HIDE what you did or cover it up.. then you KNOW you did something wrong… what is the debate?   

  • http://twitter.com/tinalib13 Tina Wech

    In my opinion, which counts for nothing really, I think we should treat these people, even what’s considered the “criminally insane”.  I’m sure that there are some who may never be able to be introduced back into society, but they should still receive some type of treatment.  Now, as to who’s going to pay for it, I have no clue.  We could say their family, but is that really fair to them if these people are adults.  We could say government or us, the taxpayers, but I know I don’t want to have to pay for old kitten lip biter here either. Thoughts? I know you all have them D’D people! :-)

  • TheLadyDragon

     I was gonna say…

  • TheLadyDragon

      If his family feels they can do the job of caring for Roman to prevent further harm to anyone/thing then sure… they should look after him. However, in situations like the case of Richard Trenton Chase, he was released to the custody of his mother who took him off his psychiatric medication and went on to kill several people.

  • Valerie

    There is no easy solution for those that are severely mentally ill. Do they belong in a jail? No, but keeping them in an institution for life isn’t an option either. The sad thing is, a lot of these people DO get medicated, then go off of the medication. Maybe they need to come up with a way to insure that those with mental illness stay on their meds. Unfortunately, it seems that any solution would most likely violate the rights of the mentally ill, so there will likely never be a solution. We will continue to arrest them and throw them in jail, then release them into the public to continue the cycle.

  • Valerie

     Holy crap!!! I ended my comment the same way lmao

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    This has nothing to do with a mentally ill person knowing they did something wrong, Of course some do. The debate is how to effectively prevent them from doing it again, especially if the illness causing them to do these things is treatable.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/BTYN5SIVHWNRENFLKYBXYNVYVE Avie

    This is a sensitive issue for me.  I honestly believe the mentally ill should be given every opportunity to live alongside everyone else.  Merely having a mental condition does not make one unsuitable to live among everyone else.  Sometimes we just need a little extra help.  :)

    However, there are some people that are beyond help, people who have done too much harm to those around them, who will continue to cause harm, no matter what is done to help them.  The hard part is that it’s not their fault.  I don’t think they deserve to be punished for something they didn’t choose.  But the rest of society shouldn’t have to go through their lives in fear of what these people might do.  So I think that when a person shows that they are dangerous and multiple attempts have been made to treat them, to no avail, they should be institutionalized.

    I also think there should be an effort aimed towards education regarding mental illnesses.  There’s so much stigma and misinformation that it’s very difficult for people to get and maintain the help they need.  There are times, in my own treatment, that I’m tempted to stop and try to handle it on my own.  Mentally ill who seek help are more likely to be treated poorly by others than mentally ill who try to ignore it.  I attribute this to ignorance and lack of education.  As odd as it seems to me, there are people out there who think being mentally ill is a choice!

    For comparison purposes, when a person has cancer, everyone around them is supportive.  No one blames them for having it, calls them weak, evil or a blight upon society.  When a person has a mental disorder (a chemical imbalance, psychological problem, neurological disorder, cognitive difficulties) they suffer alone.  Their family is embarrassed, hospitals don’t allow non-related visitors and they are either ridiculed or ignored.  They are often blamed for having it, called weak, lazy, stupid, told they just need a good beating and they’ll come out of it.  This is why many mentally ill don’t seek treatment when the problem is minimal and can be handled before anyone gets seriously hurt.  It needs to stop.

    As for the guy in the article, he needs help.  Not jail.  Not a quick treatment and then release.  He needs long-term supervision and help.  And he needs to be kept away from animals, especially kittens.

  • Texas Ranger

    It’s a major conundrum Morbid. The ‘smart” thing to do is eliminate them or at least incapacitate them in the least burdomsone/expensive way for society before an innocent person or persons are harmed or killed.That solution is way to close to Murderous Nazism to even be considered a solution by a “Civilized Society”. BUT…who says there isn’t a cure in the near future? Aren’t these peoples lives just as precious as the handicapped, alcoholic, drug addicted, typical asshole,or otherwise “imperfect” people?  Should we waste our money on trying to treat a ”lost cause”? Yes. We must spend the money to try to help these people, it is the right thing to do as humans, and what if it was your son or daughter or mother or father or YOU? No one’s genetics/breeding/wealth is a gaurantee to not go crazy now are they

  • newstarshipsmell

    You forget “Empty Recycle Bin.”

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    It sounds like we need more places like that for the mentally ill who are are a danger to their communities.

  • http://truecrimereport.com iLLusionS

    If crowding is an issue in some of these cases where these truly dangerous ones are being released, then at the very least there needs to be some follow up. Someone to ensure that they don’t let these patients then “go off the map” once they are released. Something similar to a probationary period. I mean will it be any more effective then the system already at work here? I don’t know, but it needs to come into play.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    I think a long-term mental institution with good security, where he can get the treatment he needs and be monitored, would be the best option.  Since we would be paying for his stay in jail anyway, I see no issue with paying for his institutional care.  Whatever keeps the rest of society (people and animals) safe while appropriately treating him for whatever has caused him to believe that mutilating and killing kittens is an appropriate response to being dumped.

  • Texas Ranger

    If we can house frickin New Orleans for years and years…I think we can find a way to house the dangerous sick folks now can’t we?

  • Babydoll0630

    They have group homes for developmentally disabled.  My mom used to manage one, they give them their meds, go on outings, concerts and all kinds of stuff.  Maybe it’s something to consider instead of just throwing some of them in an institution.  The higher functiontionins adults at the home my mom worked had boyfriends and went on dates.  They could actively monitor them/their meds without restricting them to some institution.  I don’t think it applies to all mentally ill, but maybe the ones who, IDK torture cats and stuff like that………

  • sugarpie

    A crime is a crime.  Whether you are mentally ill or not, the time should fit the crime.  After he serves his time, he should be placed somewhere to rehabilitate.  Whether it be a group home or institution. 

  • http://twitter.com/vab423 Vicki B.

    Yeah, I’m all for euthanization of these folks — hell, I’ll go one better, *humane* euthanization, which is more than what was afforded the sweet little kittens.

  • http://twitter.com/vab423 Vicki B.

    There is no debate – fortunately or unfortunately, the constitution protects these unfortunate shitweasels that bite lips off kittens (or worse) by providing them unalienable rights to refuse treatment for their mental illnesses and we have the ACLU who will go to court for them to protect said rights. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/ericagieras Erica Gieras

    kittens have lips?

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Not sure on this one. I wouldn’t mind beating the living unholy hell out of the guy. Maybe a out treatment program? He clearly needs something and I don’t think he’ll get that help in jail.  

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    Don’t feel bad for your Uncle getting treatment. Once it was considered a point of pride for a city to have a safe institution for people who have severe mental illnesses. Money, thought, and time were invested to build the best places for treatment and the patients frequently worked to maintain the place and had various jobs that supported the the hospital. Many institutions were cities onto themselves with the massive Kirkbride buildings. They had farms, graveyards, clothing and shoe factories, and other things that would make the place self sufficient. 
    However, once people realized what a nice place these hospitals could be they quickly became over crowded and the horrible care that you hear about so much started to be brought back into use. With the advent of Thorazine the population started to decline and care was once again starting to be something helpful. Because of the medicines now available deinstitutionalization started to become popular.
    Sadly, with the advent of new state and federal patient care laws in 1972 asylums could no longer use patients as workers even though many enjoyed their jobs and felt it gave them a sense of normality. With a huge source of financial self sufficiency removed, many cities decided that they didn’t want to pay for these places and of course with lack of money comes lack of care. So, deinstitutionalization became a much bigger deal. The homeless population in the country soared with the mentally ill representing nearly a third of that population.
    Slowly, people are starting to see the benefits of places for long term in-patient care. Even so, it costs money and many people think sticking them in jail is cheaper and better. Obviously, not. 

  • JGo555

    “What should society do with the mentally ill who commit criminal acts?”

    Clearly we should post Ads on their foreheads & pay them to keep’em there for a while since the dude’s obviously gonna be free because HE didn’t do it, the CRAZY IN HIM did it.

    Oh & Dimoxinil called & Homer called: They want to get together & rub up against each other.

  • JGo555

    Put them up in jail but let them build license plates & things that will benefit society.

    That’s my solution.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    You know what though Tina? If they end up in jail, you’re paying for it anyway. Every time he goes through the court system, jail, and public assistance your paying for it. So the question becomes where do you want your money to go? For me, I think my money is best spent treating these people in a secure mental facility, even if only one percent ever get out it’s the decent human thing to do. What people like to gloss over whenever something like this is brought up is that the money is there, it’s just being used elsewhere and police departments, and the private prison industry would like to keep it that way.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Morbid is right. This is not an easy issue, but it is one that needs to be addressed in a compassionate way for both the criminally insane and society.

    We as a society agree that there are certain groups which much be protected because they are not capable for caring for themselves (e.g., children, senior citizens, the very ill without resources for proper healthcare, persons with very extreme disabilities). Under the Americans With Disabilities Act mental illness is a protected disability requiring reasonable accommodation. Society respects generally the ADA, but in criminal cases it appears unrelated. I think that this should hold true for criminals with extreme mental issues (e.g., a person born to a practicing drug addicts, a person who really cannot rationalize/feel why something is wrong). A person “sentenced” to a hospital will stay until he is deemed safe to live among society. This guy will probably be out in a year if sent to prison and without any rehabilitation to deal with his disease (i.e., more of the same).

  • Tenbux

     We’re housing New Orleans?  Last I heard those trailers were all sitting in a lot where no one is permitted to use them.

  • Heather_Habilatory

     HOW THE EFF DOES HE LOOK LIKE A KITTEN? Have you SEEN kittens? Kittens are adorable, and cute, and and and made of awesome and rainbows and sunshine and happiness!

    This thing? not so much.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I was going to post the exact same thing. LOL

  • Texas Ranger

    Those are the extras, not counting the apartments, rent houses and Astrodome.

  • Sorrow_discord

    Group homes as someone stated before me could be a direction to a solution.  They could still be a part of society, either by supervised outings to unsupervised outings for those who merely need some level of structure to help support them. They could be monitored and given the chance to be as productive as their illness allows them. 

  • Athena

    THIS.

  • Eliza Berntsen

    I don’t feel bad, I am actually very happy for him as I know that he is happy. I remember him when he was still at home- that was a truly scary time, as no-one understood or was/ wanted to help, so seeing how happy he is, that’s just amazing. In that place they are allowed to work actually- menial jobs mostly because the big society wouldn’t trust “some nutters” to do anything important, but it gives the people confidence. Many do crafts and they sell their works during farmers/ crafts markets, which helps to keep the place going. But yeah, this isn’t cheap and the government keeps on cutting their funding. There is a very resounding fear that if they carry on with their cuts that the people then will be forced to go back into the society, and many will be homeless. I remember that about 10 or so years ago the local government attempted to shut the place down, as they wanted to build an estate on that land. There was a massive uproar from the residents, neighborhood, families with everyone protesting against it- families were especially vocal as they knew that they wouldn’t be able to care for their needs and would result in living with a walking time bomb. So they had to back down in the end, only to come up with another way of getting rid of the place by rising their bills, taxes, etc. 

    They should bring such institutions back, I am sure that it would save a lot of people. And maybe then, there would be less stories on DD about crimes committed by the Mentally ill.

  • Athena

    But, a crime is NOT a crime, as you might suggest.  In the western world, we’ve been differentiating between crimes committed by recklessness, by premeditation and by insanity since at least as far back as Ancient Greece… you know, that time before Jesus when things like reason and logic were celebrated. :P

    If a person is compelled by a treatable defect to commit a crime, or is found incapable of grasping the fact that his behavior is criminal or understanding court proceedings, it makes no sense to punish him as though he is of right mind… he isn’t, and incarceration will either do nothing for him or, in worst cases, actually exacerbate his illness.  Plus it costs taxpayers twice as much, to incarcerate him and then treat him.  To treat him in a secure facility hits two birds with one stone.

  • Heather_Habilatory

     Yes, this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stacey-McLaughlin/1611735600 Stacey McLaughlin

    The fact still remains: treatment of an adult, is up to the adult. They can refuse pills, refuse treatment, or stop taking their pills. So just because it’s “treatable” doesn’t mean it will be treated. OR really, honestly “managed” because you can’t cure the bad ones. Kitten biter, child raper it’s the same thing. A sick and twisted mind. Child rapers can be “treated” they are quite regularly. Rehabilitated that is. But a man who rapes his 6 month old daughter, does a year, gets “rehabilitated” then molests 5 four year old girls in his apartment complex because he relapsed, does 4 yrs of time, goes to a treatment clinic, to learn coping skills, even gets chemically castrated…rapes another girl, only this time he kills her so she can’t tell. Chemically castrated makes them flaccid they use “objects” then, because it’s not about the sex, it’s about the act. This man has a history of hurting people physically because he was hurt emotionally. He has no impulse control “I feel like hitting someone so I am going to!” Are there medications that can help curb those desires, yes. Can he be trusted to take them regularly, No. Sick people take meds, I’m not sick, so I don’t need my meds. I’m all better. OR my meds make my sweat taste like jelly beans, so I’m not gonna take them anymore. These people are not your typical “mental illness” people. Autism, depression, ADHD, Bipolar, these are normal typical mental defects. The ability to not go ape shit crazy and rape a kitten, kill a kid, or eat a face, shouldn’t be trusted to a pill and a crazy person responsible for taking said pill. If he can’t understand killing a kitten is not a good idea, then he won’t understand that not taking his meds is a bad idea.

  • c youlater

    They should be put on lifetime probation. They should be required by the terms of probation to take a weekly urine test to prove they are taking their meds. They should be required to be in treatment as a term of probation and they should be required to get a job to pay all the fees including treatment costs and weekly U.A.’s.
    If they fail to meet the terms of probation then they go to jail.The more they mess up on probation the longer the jail sentence. Halfway houses/treatment centers upon release from jail would get them used to taking their meds everyday, monitor the meds they are taking, start the treatment program they will be on and help with the transition back into society.

  • xian77

     you are a douche bag of the highest order. people who think that the mentally ill should be put down deserve all the misery and unpleasentness karma has coming their way. (I’d tell you to choke on a dick but I have more class than that)!!
     

  • flutterby80

    I have a niece who was severly abused to age 5, shuffled around for a couple of years and then adopted and raised by an awesome family. From age 8, she was given positive and loving guidance, a large, close extended family who loved her like she was born to them. She is now 27, pregnant, homeless, jobless, and friendless. She has burned every bridge and used up every relationship she has ever had. Her adoptive mom and I are probably the only people left who really love her…she is self-destructive and manipulative. We have decided to refuse to take her in anymore, which is now forcing her to seek mental health services just so she has a place to live. Our focus has to be the baby now, as my niece has no business raising a child!!! Do I think her adoptive parents should be forced to now pay for these services? NO I do not. They have given her 19+ years of love, education, family and medical and mental health access that she would not have had if they had not opened their home and hearts to her. Until her adoption, the government paid for my niece’s medical, food, shelter, counseling and educational needs. When she was adopted, her new family absorbed those costs. Why should they now be expected to pay for her biological parents’ abuse and neglect? No way! 

  • lespacino

    I think we need halfway house type facilities for the criminally insane. I think they should be locked up and given their meds by nurses, mental illness treated by psychologists/psychiatrists, and given jobs to pay for their stay in the facilities. Have them stamp out license plates and build furniture for schools. Society gains and they gain. Depending on how well they follow rules and react to meds, they can be allowed to leave the facilities for increased lengths of time. I think they should also be tested to make sure they are taking their meds once they get to the point that they are leaving the facilities.

  • lespacino

     Yep, little tiny ones!

  • onlyme356

    Tell me that exact same thing after he bites your moms face off.

    Peace

  • onlyme356

    Cat face

  • onlyme356

    Some registered sex offenders are required to live together in communities or designated areas with supervision. Although, I’m not sure who’d be up for the position of supervisor with guys like this.

  • onlyme356

    Lovely, everyone’s getting all Kumbaya about a dude who ate a kitten’s face. It’s always cool until he sneaks into your backyard, rapes your kitty, then eats its eyes. You have some good points, however there are different levels and types of treatment for different mental illnesses. I agree jail would be ineffective in a case like this, but if he can’t be permanently institutionalized then he’s better off not being around where he can keep hurting others. And that means..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Togoodtobetru-Hollis/100001718230989 Togoodtobetru Hollis

    this dude is a pos. he needs to be put down. dont like it? too fucking bad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Togoodtobetru-Hollis/100001718230989 Togoodtobetru Hollis

    yeah i bet he would be singing a different song then. a bullet to the back od the head. done. problem solved.

  • Heather_Habilatory

     Cat face makes me go “d’awwwww”. Cat eater face makes me stabby.

    Still not seein it!

  • Heather_Habilatory

    If I ever get to the eating-parts-of-living-things-other-than-fruits-and-veggies stage of crazy, just put me down. For my OWN sake. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4Z2MAOG243GBPGWIIYVSHTHIPQ Chasity

    These are the stories that really get to me. It makes me really angry inside when people do animals this way. 

  • http://twitter.com/tinalib13 Tina Wech

    Point taken lady. :-)

  • sugarpie

    I agree and disagree.  If someone with a mental illness kills someone, especially in some of the heiness ways they do kill others, they should be held accountable.  Whether they knew what they were doing or not.  In a lot of the cases, the person committing the crime “should have been on meds” but chose to go off on their own.  So just because they decided they didn’t need their mind altering drugs anymore, an innocent victim is dead.  Or this new cannibal craze, sure everyone of these guys are insane.  So we should just put them in an institution and rehabilitate them?  The guy who attacked the guy on the bus in front everyone and started eating him is now out walking the streets after 4 years.  WTF?  He probably won’t do it again.  I’d be okay with them going to a treatment facility in a case like the story above, but he should be in there as long as he would be incarcerated.  But when it comes to murder, I still think jail time.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Just tacking this on here because I, for one, think we need to bring the asylums and institutions back. As a crisis counselor, I deal with people whose loved ones refuse to take the medications which would make them safe(r) to mingle with society. As it is now, nothing can be done until they commit a crime and then they are either returned to the streets or put in prison, and neither of those are answers. 

  • LeaveMeBe

    Thank you, Avie. Very eloquently stated.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Awww! Of course they do. Cute little lips that look like they have itty bitty lip liner on them. :)

  • oh_really_now

    I was shocked to find that kittens have lips. Saaaaaaay, isnt this guy a villian from Dick Tracy?

    http://static.flickr.com/82/269713909_273483ea39.jpg
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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lil-Bit/679912203 Lil Bit

    This guy needs to be committed. The next lips he bites, the next thing he murders could very well be a person.

  • http://twitter.com/TheRealChelseaH Chelsea Hoffman

    I say put the motherfucker out of his misery before anymore defenseless entities are made to suffer. He’s undeserving of treatment. Fuck him. 

  • chgplz

    That is what I was thinking,something along the line of assisted living. Control with safety perimeters.

  • Babydoll0630

    Ya, bc I didn’t say this like 5-6 comments up…………..

  • lespacino

    Sometimes, I don’t read through all the comments before posting. Otherwise, if your post says what mine does (still haven’t read them all), I would’ve just clicked “like.” Kind of confused as to why it matters really, especially if the posts agree, but not enough to really care. :)

  • pikeman

    Who cares if he’s mentally ill, he’s a fucking asshole!

  • pikeman

    Just because someone is mentally handicapped doesn’t give them the excuse to be cruel and bite the lips off of kittens!

  • Kayla Worley

    not everyone with a mental illness should be put down are you ignorant i have 4 brothers with ADHD which is a mental illness and can cause agressive outburst there ae ways to treat it ur comments make you jusat as cruel as the person ur talking about you need a deeper knowledge of things before you rant off one day you dementia should we put you down too!

  • Kayla Worley

    I have mental illness that runs in my family my mother is manic depressive borderline bi polar and has severe anxiety disorder so i understand what ppl with these issues are capable of but its not there fault the state can afford rehab programs for crack fiends and kiddy diddlers they sould be more than willing to help the mentally ill who dont have a choice in what there problem is!

  • onlyme356

    Good morning dumb fuck. Did I say everyone with a mental illness should be put down? No, I did not. Perhaps you should get a deeper understanding of reading comprehension skills before you rant off about what people are commenting. I too, have a child with ADHD, get off your mental illness pedestal and quit putting words into my mouth because you’re hypersensitive.

  • tim tourne

    whats the problem….i like eating pussy

  • The_Yeti_Knows

    You telling us you haven’t considered biting pussy lips ?

  • disqus_rP0m500M8G

    He needs to be killed for his actions, whether sane or not sane. Stupid ugly piece of shit