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DELTONA, Fla. – The parents of a senior at Deltona High School are outraged after their 17-year-old son had an asthma attack at school and the school nurse would not let him use his inhaler.

Sue Rudi got a call from her son’s school letting her know that her son was having trouble breathing. When she arrived and was taken back to the nurse’s office, they found her son, Michael Rudi, on the floor.

“As soon as we opened up the door, we saw my son collapsing against the wall on the floor of the nurse’s office while she was standing in the window of the locked door looking down at my son, who was in full-blown asthma attack,” Rudi said.

Michael said his inhaler was confiscated on Friday after the school dean found it in his locker. Even though it was still in its original packaging with his name on it and directions for its use, it was taken away because his mother had not signed the proper form for him to have it.

In order for students to carry their prescribed drugs with them in school, parents must sign a medical release form each year. The school had no such form for Michael to have his inhaler at school. Michael’s mother says that even so, her son has been at the school for years and they have a record of her son’s asthma.

But regardless of the signed paperwork, she is horrified that her son could have died over a technicality. Michael echoed the same sentiments — especially regarding the school nurse he says locked the door as soon as he felt like he was going to pass out.

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“It’s like something out of a horror film. The person just sits there and watches you die,” said Michael Rudi. “She sat there, looked at me and she did nothing.”

But the Volusia County School officials are standing by the unnamed nurse’s decision to keep Michael from using his inhaler during his asthma attack, citing the medical release form they had no record of. However, they are looking into why 911 was never called — which is district policy when a student cannot breathe.

Sue Rudi doesn’t think that’s enough and has filed child endangerment charges against the nurse with the Volusia County Sheriff’s Office.

“I mean its common sense if I saw an animal on the street in distress I would probably stop to help, why wouldn’t she help a child,” Sue Rudi said.

Personally, I think the mother shares some blame. If you have a kid prone to asthma attacks and know you need to have certain paperwork signed in order for him to possess his inhaler, as asinine as that can be in some situations, making sure the school has that form should be a pretty high priority each school year.

But I don’t get Nurse Ratchet. Following school policy or not, I cannot understand how she could watch a kid who having an asthma attack (which I imagine are terrifying), and not just simply give him the one thing he needs to be able to breathe.

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  • sugarpie

    I see myself in this situation as I stood looking through the locked door at my son collapsing and the satanist nurse standing there watching – I suddenly turn 20 shades of red, bust the door off the hinges, throw the bitch through the window and get my son the fuck out of there never to return.  TOTAL BULLSHIT.  We’re not talking about the kid having a belly ache and needing some peptobismol.  We’re talking about HE COULD HAVE DIED!

  • newstarshipsmell

    So much for the Hippocratic Oath, I guess.

  • Lana Gill

    God dammit florida… How are you on this site once a week.

  • I think I would’ve had to kill this nurse. WTF? That’s just ridonculous!!

  • OutOfBubbleGum

    “she was standing in the window of the locked door looking down at my son”

    My guess is the nurse was desperately trying to get “the machine that goes ping working” before the school administrator arrived.  

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    That’s doctors, not nurses, and even doctors don’t always swear it anymore.

  • darsa

    Just yesterday I read a blog from one of the crocheters that I follow (yes I crochet, don’t hate) who said that she would be away for a while because her 5YO daughter had a massive asthma attack, with the family there and was rushed to the hospital, and STILL she ended up dying because of it!  What the HELL is wrong with someone who is in the profession of helping people medically, standing and watching ANYONE die, regardless of age!?!?
    Oh, and… I have received TWO calls this year from my kid’s school asking for a photo release.  I have, both times, emailed and faxed them the same form that I had sent in at the beginning of the year, which they apparently are unable to find.  O.O  So, yeah.


     “Looks like another case of unsigned medical release form, Johnson”

  • newstarshipsmell

    Oh, well, I only bothered to read the very first sentence on Wikipedia before commenting:

    “The Hippocratic Oath is an oath historically taken by physicians and other healthcare professionals swearing to practice medicine ethically.”

    My bad.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    Dear God, what the fuck?  Even if they couldn’t give him the inhaler, 911 should have been called!

    And that’s a really stupid fucking school policy, but schools are like that these days.  God forbid that kids should be able to take care of their chronic health issues as they happen instead of having to interrupt class and go to the school nurse for help.  And the mother (and father, if he’s in the picture) needs to be backhanded if she didn’t sign off on those forms necessary for her son to use his inhaler (it wouldn’t be the first time a school or student lost forms like that, though).  

    The school is fucked for not calling 911, and they deserve it.  That nurse needs to be fired for standing around like a fucking dumbass, too.  That’s NOT what a real medical professional does.

  • OutOfBubbleGum

    I thought it was the “Hypocrite Oaf?”

  • SayAunt

    Maybe it’s time to have a background check done on Nurse Kevorkian.

  • sweekymom

    I have mild asthma.  So mild that I don’t need a rescue inhaler.  I just need the occasional puff of albuterol.  Every now and then, I’ll have trouble breathing for about ten to fifteen seconds.  It’s scary as hell.  That poor kid.  And the thing is, he’s almost old enough at 17 to make his own medical decisions.

    I would have wrung that nurse’s neck. 

  • JGo555

    She could’ve “suggested” that he could grab the inhaler “out of her hands” and ran outside of school grounds & gave himself therapy.

    If he’d “stolen” his own inhaler & used it outside of school grounds, then there is “nothing they could’ve done to prevent” his  inhaler usage.

  • newstarshipsmell

    LOL well I searched Wikipedia for “hypocritic oath” which should go a ways to explaining my ignorance on the matter. Apparently that’s a common enough mistake that Wikipedia has set a redirect for that query to the Hippocratic Oath article.

  • Aena

    Why was the nurse standing behind a locked door? Did she think the kid was going to try and break in, steal an inhaler and umm I dunno try and save his life? Regardless of the signed paper, 911 should have been called, the asthma attack should have never gotten to that point EVER. What if they wouldn’t have been able to get a hold of the kids mother? Would this kid have died because a fucking piece of paper wasn’t signed? Some of this zero tolerance shit is scary, kids could literally die because of it. Schools need to use some common fucking sense. 

  • JGo555

    “Liked” because the usage of RIDONCULOUS has been quite scarse these days.

  • UniqueMommy1984

    I’m kind of dumbfounded why she didn’t help him. Shouldn’t she have done at least something whether the kid had that signed paper or not?

  • Omalley

    I would’ve raised serious HELL if this happened at my kids school. My son has asthma and yes, I’m always careful to make sure the school has the meds & the forms. First of all they should’ve called 911 immediately when they realized they were ‘not able’ to give him the inhaler. Why couldn’t the nurse have gotten verbal permission over the phone from the mother to use the inhaler? The kid had attended the school for years and staff was aware of his asthma. I think it’s WRONG that they let the kid suffer & endangered his life over the lack of a form! Surely this could’ve been handled better.  

  • I cannot see how you can blame the mother one bit here. Not only should the nurse be arrested, but the school should be sued. 

  • sorry Morbid, but I cannot see blaming the mother one bit. The nurse should see jail time and the school should be sued

  • I cant begin to tell you how many medical release forms i have signed and they have lost over the years. my son has asthma and a heat intolerance.  The nurse they have now will call each time he is seen and left me know of any problems and if he has needed additional help. i do believe i would need bail money if i came across this nurse

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    It sucks that people are terrified to do anything these days because it might result in a law suit or being fired. I kinda feel bad for the nurse because she in a position where she probably wanted to help, but who knows what her situation was, perhaps she has a family to support and can’t be fired over breaking even a stupid rule she had no control over. Where I lose my sympathy for her is when she decided not to call 911. A hospital can at least administer life saving care until the parents are reached. 
    Also, I’m kinda on Morbid’s side as far as the permission release is concerned. I’m overly anal and I the only thing I trust people to be is incompetent so I would have made damn sure everyone, including my kid had gotten a copy of the release from so there would be several layers of redundancy.    

  • JohnQknowitall

    This is definitely a cluster fuck which includes the mom. 

    These rules are the kind made by good intentioned idiots who don’t think about exceptions because they are either covering their fucking assholes or are “nothing ever goes wrong in my world” soccer mom types.

  • This hits very close to home for me.  I’ve been a victim of idiotic “zero tolerance” policies, too.  I even had a couple of instances that were almost as severe as what this young man went through.  After one of too many close calls, my parents withdrew me from school and I was admitted into a homebound program for disabled children.  Class was held in a telephone conference and schoolwork was done at home.  When I needed to test, I reported to an official facility, took my test and went back home.  It was wonderful.

    It wouldn’t have been necessary if they rethought these zero tolerance policies.  Obviously, they were meant to be geared towards illicit drugs, but due to shoddy wording, everything ends up covered.  The end result is that people who actually use illicit drugs find sneakier ways to do it and the people who need medication to stay alive are the ones who suffer.  Add school staff and teachers who don’t (want to) understand various medical conditions and/or lack basic compassion and common sense to the mix, and it’s a recipe for disaster.

    No one should be denied life-saving treatment due to a paperwork technicality.  And anyone who would sit by and watch someone in severe distress shouldn’t be working around people at all.

  • rensuchan

    Just once?  Surely their weekly average is higher than that!

  • Sam

    If the form was so all-important for any presciption drugs on the premises, why then wasn’t the mom contacted after they found and confiscated the inhaler on the previous Friday? Either to bollock her for sending in undocumented presciptions or to ask her nicely to fill in a form if the inhaler is needed because ‘there doesn’t seem to be one already on file’.
    ‘Not-my-job’ eejits. Thank goodness the boy is ok.

  • Sam

    Huh, something has just occurred to me. What did they do with the inhaler? Stick it in a drawer somewhere and run a pool on how long the boy could do without?? What, the school nurse was just safeguarding her bet? Had she picked the timeslot just after the mom got there and interrupted some clean, wholesome gambling fun?

  • This situation wouldn’t have happened if the idiot had just signed a form that everyone gets about medication every year. Still not justified on the schools part in my opinion. Those rules shouldn’t extend to life saving medication, on the flip side if I know my child has a potentially life threatening condition that they need medication for I’m going to make goddamn sure every official in the school knows about it and I have everything necessary done to ensure his safety.

    Still think the nurse needs a cunt punt, fuck my job I’m not gonna have a kids death on my hands over a piece of fucking paper.

  • It’s one of my favorite words!  I use it all the time.  That and “assface”…I crack up just sayin that one. 😀

  •  Things were SO diff when I was in HS.  Hell, I carried Midol and Aspirin daily….and you can’t even get PRESCRIBED meds at school now?  The package was unopened and had his name on it.  I get having to follow the ruled, but they knew this kid and knew his problem….I am disgusted!

  • newstarshipsmell

    This is why the source article’s wording confuses me. It’s not really clear if the nurse locked herself in the same room as the student or a different one:

    ‘She rushed to the office and was taken back to the nurse’s
    office by school administrators and they discovered the teen on the
    “As soon as we opened up the door, we saw my son collapsing against the wall on the floor of the nurse’s office while she was standing in the window of the locked door looking down at my son, who was in full-blown asthma attack,” Rudi said.’

    So did they open the door to the same room her son was collapsing in? And was the nurse hiding behind the locked door to another room, possibly where she might have had the inhaler stored? Or did the nurse lock herself and the student up in her nurse’s office, and mom saw them both through the window of the locked door? Shoddy writing here, folks. No blame on @Morbid:disqus, he works with what he can get.

  • tkaz

    This was all on the nurse, she lacked common sense & kindness.
    We have the same rules at my kids school, I think it’s silly – but I understand the rules. But I will say that the elementary nurse we have is on the ball & she would’ve either used another kids meds if I couldn’t be reached or called 911. Knowing our nurse is awesome is what tells me this nurse is the problem. It’s not the school or the rules – it’s the nurse!

  • Crocheting is the isht! 🙂

  • LuvsHorror

    Unbelievable, how could she just stand there and watch the kid almost die? They took his inhaler, so signed permission form or not, they knew he needed it. How callous.

  • Kevorkian was against suffering, this bitch is Nurse Dahmer.

  • takurospirit

    She may have been a dumb cunt that thought he as just trying to get out of class. In 8th grade I had strep throat. By midday I could barely move, my body was being wracked by shivers, and I didn’t give a crap about anything. I’m quite neurotic normally. The school nurse rolled her eyes at me and told me to go back to class. I told her I was going home and headed for the exit so she angrily took my temp. 104F. It as only then that the dumb bitch called my mom.

  • LuvsHorror

    I’d give it to you.

  • So this raggedy bitch didn’t do anything? Didn’t call 911, didn’t take him to the school showers and turn them all on for the steam to help him, she did nothing. She should be fired for not calling 911 and knocked TFO by mom for watching her son slowly suffocate to death.

  • LuvsHorror

    And as a nurse she must have some sort of training. Why didn’t she use it? I guess anyone can be a school nurse.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Try butt-jelly. It’ll make you lol.

  • Kent McGee

    As an asthmatic I can tell you. It’s freaking terrifying to have an asthma attack. Your body starts to sweat, you get hot, you start to panic, you can’t breathe, you can’t think, you can’t move for fear that you might make it worse, and the only sense of release and recovery is your inhaler. When you have an asthma attack and you can’t get to an inhaler you really, really feel like you are about to die. I realize it’s a controlled substance but everywhere I have been a doctor, or nurse, or pharmacist will give you shots of an inhaler to keep you from dying. They may not let you keep it as it is controlled… but they give you your medication to prevent you from dying! The nurse should lose her license and the school should have a policy amendment. It’s a good policy for i.e. Ritalin, Oxycontin, etc…. but an EpiPen or inhaler are… different. .

  • Kent McGee

    True they don’t have to swear the Hippocratic Oath but, in Canada, even pharmacists and nurses have to swear an oath that is enforced that they must provide adequate care at all times if there is a person in distress… even if they are off duty. First responders as well. , and abide by it. They can lose their practicing licenses if there is a situation where they don’t provide the necessary treatment. Go Canada.

  • Kent McGee

     Just once? You are being generous.

  • Wow, just had a moment of clarity here. Everyone’s turned something into a bong. Honeybear, Mountain Dew bottle, the list goes on.

    Why not an asthma inhaler? Its even got the pump ready-made. One could totally set that up for instant-crack pipe torch inside, little water, etc. You’d have to get some olfactory mask shit going on (integrated Lysol spritz after the toke? So many options), but you’d make it a total solution. 

    Then, when its a boring day in class, its time for an ‘asthma attack!’ and nobody could say no. Sweet.

  • Kent McGee

    You must be trolling… no one can be that stupid.

  • If you take what I say around here literally or seriously you’re far more stupid than me.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Are any of my fellow concolorphiliacs presenting withdrawal symptoms yet? I’m feeling urges, dark urges…

  • I’m admitting my ingornorance here and asking you what in the hell does that mean?

  • newstarshipsmell

    It means someone owes us six stories so far this week, if he wants to maintain his stated goal of two writeups per day…

  • chgplz

    That is failure to render medical aid at best. Stupid cunt.

  • BamaGuy1024

    This evil inhuman person must be fired for this grotesque demonstration of imbecility.

  • Zazen

    Ok tarsh, I’ll bite. What word is this that you’ve made up today?

  • LeaveMeBe

    No, the piece of paper is mom’s responsibility and if she hadn’t turned one in she is accountable. That doesn’t excuse the nurse and the rest of the school staff who knew of this happening from their stupidity and lack of action. 911 should have been called immediately. Those are the technicalities of the situation and an unemotional fact.

    As for me, I would sue the school and the nurse for locking him in a room and not summoning emergency help. And I would have been too busy saving my child to knock that cunt’s teeth down her throat and cut off her air until she turned blue at that moment, but I would have felt like doing it afterward. 

  • newstarshipsmell
  • and which of our esteemed writers stated this goal??

  • Never mind. I figured it out. You’re so clever!!  🙂

  • Wolf_of_Mars

    Florida has a “Good Samaritan” law. If a healthcare professional sees a person in distress here & treats them in an emergency situation, there cannot be a personal lawsuit.  Nothing could have happened to her.  The law would have even protected her job.
    This school “nurse” was obviously not hired for her interpersonal skills & empathetic nature. With a locked door on top of it, she made it clear that she just didn’t want to be bothered by this kid’s problem.  I think she needs to be charged with attempted manslaughter.
    I have asthma, and the best thing I can think of to teach the “nurse” and the various administrators involved is a thorough waterboarding in a locked room all alone.  That closely imitates an moderate asthma attack, but not a severe one like the child had. Let’s see how they like the feeling of not being able to take in enough air for their bodies to survive.

  • If this had been my son, who actually does have asthma, I would have punched this woman in the face so many times that I would be sitting in jail right now. I don’t care about a piece of paper when a life is on the line. What a cruel bitch!

  • Zazen

    Yeah, I googled ‘concolor’ and came up with So I had nothing.

  • Spread that sigh over hear because I took the damn word apart and still couldn’t get where you were going. LOL! I do look forward to your made up words though.

  • Shauna Olsen

    I understand needing the forms and all, however, in situations like this; it can either be overlooked or at least call 911. Damn nurse would be in the morgue right now if it were my child. Not kidding. After making sure my baby was okay her ass would look like it went through a meat grinder. Who just stand there and watches a child slowly die and not do anything to help?

  • Wolf_of_Mars

     As a fellow asthmatic (compounded with COPD), I completely agree with you.  I’d be willing to bet that you still vividly remember your first serious asthma attack.  And, I’ll bet that you check your pocket at least three times for your inhaler before you leave the house… I had a complete meltdown when I’d forgotten my Combivent, once.  LOL!

  • You and newstarshipsmell get on my nerves. Because of your constant avi changes I actually have to read the names of posters now because I keep thinking that you are someone new. I liked looking at your cloud thingy, LMB’s Rhino’s, Lena’s Dog, and my wife’s cock. But nooooo…you gotta change things around and confuse a sista.

  • tdavid6

    There is a thing under the law called “implied consent” in my state. When I took EMT training, we were told that under most circumstances, you needed parental or guardian consent to treat a minor, however, if that minor has a life-threatening condition or injury and the parent is not available to give consent, you follow “implied consent”. Basically it means that under dire circumstances it is reasonable to believe that a parent/guardian would want you to save the life of their child. I’m surprised a “nurse” didn’t know this. I agree she should have had the forms filled out. I also think the school should have used common sense (particularly since the inhaler still had the prescribed directions from the physician on the box).

  • newstarshipsmell

    Well, since you didn’t mention liking any of my avatars, I’ll take that as encouragement to keep changing them up 😛

  • tdavid6

    “Raggedy bitch”… you made me laugh.

  • tdavid6

    My son has asthma, and at his school that is the only medication they are allowed to carry on them (I have another son that has migraines and they have to keep his medicine locked in the office). Even the inhaler requires the yearly form to be filled out, but at least they allow him to carry it with him. Running to the office to get your inhaler during a severe asthma attack may be the difference between life and death. On another note, I do not have asthma and have no idea what it feels like, but I know it’s terrifying for a mother watching it. The first time my son had one, he was about 4, and I was so panicked I was shaking him and screaming at him to “just breathe”. We called 911 and later my husband said to me sarcastically, “Just breathe? I bet all of these kids with asthma had just never thought of that”.

  • You change them so much I can’t remember any but one I think. An orange cat cartoon thingy. Do you see how you mess with my head? 😛

  • Zazen

    I had a cloud thingy?

  • I don’t know what that thing is. It looks like a smiling scrubbing bubble. The one that you had until like last week I think.

  • Zazen

    Oh, my cutesie smiling spider =D

  • Paperwork be damned, the nurse SHOULD have done something, since they were already fully aware of this child having asthma.   If it was my child & I saw the nurse doing the same thing this nurse did, first I would make sure my child got to the hospital and was being treated, second, I would knock that nurse’s teeth down her throat and hoped she choked on them.  I, too would file charges on both the school & the nurse, and sue them both.  I sure hope this nurse gets fired & the school revises their policy on this, because this could easily happen again…..

    I remember back in the 1980’s when I was in school, I had constant kidney problems & infections for unknown reasons.  I had to keep my kidneys flushed out so I had to carry a large bottle of water everywhere I went, including my classes in school.  I remember one day when I was in class, I asked the substitute teacher if I could go to the bathroom, she refused. I asked again, and she continued to refuse.  So I walked out of class & went to the bathroom, as I could not hold it in any longer.  The thing is, the school was well aware of my condition & they wanted to punish me for going to the bathroom.  After the school got a call from my parents & my Dr, their tone changed real quick and I was allowed to go any time.

  • How on URF is that a spider?! If spiders looked like that I wouldn’t curb stomp them when I see them in my home.

  • newstarshipsmell

    Hahahaha, I just assumed that was some cartoon character or something. I didn’t even recognize that it was a spider, either.

    Much funnier now that I see the source:

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    You know I’m going to change it after my next vacation right? And, didn’t you used to be blue? 😉

  • Zazen

    @AngelsMom0806:disqus , It’s a jumping spider that’s been photoshopped into adorable-ness.

    There’s a the original:

  • Welcome to the pervasive zero tolerance attitude of the post-9/11 school world. Being observed taking anything that even appears to be pharmaceutically-related can get a kid suspended; suspensions can keep you out of some schools and disqualify you for scholarships and grants. Take an aspirin at school and f*ck your future. That’s how it is. 

  • Zazen

    You say you’re getting rid of your cock?! And she totally was blue >.>

  • Kent McGee

     Therefore my earlier comment of trolling would be correct.

  • Not really. My face and hair has always been the same but I do change my outfit, background colors and got new eyeglasses for the new season. 

  • Kent McGee

     Yes, and yes. My 1st severe asthma attack I was in elementary school and had to walk home to get my inhaler. I only remember losing consciousness out in my front lawn and somehow woke up clutching my inhaler in my living room. I must’ve managed to get into my home while barely conscious. And I, everyday, check and double check if I have it in my pocket… the few times I forget I must leave work or school to go home and get it… just in case. There is no joking in regards to a severe attack.

  • Ahhh…I can clearly see spider now. DOH!

  • Kent McGee

     I completely understand :). And when someone is having an asthma attack you feel helpless to help them it’s terrible. I can’t imagine if my child had asthma too… p.s. your husband sounds like a witty guy ;).

  • It was her responsibility to ensure the form was signed. had it been, this would not be a story.

  • I’m still me. My feelings are hurt about @DangerousKindOfSnark:disqus ‘s cock though.

  • School “nurses” are absolutely worthless these days, and have been for about 15 years. I don’t even know why the tax payers are wasting money on this job slot anymore. First off… they are not allowed to do ANYTHING anymore… and secondly, if an emergency does pop up, they are so terrified of legal retribution that they don’t do anything anyway, like this lady. Yeah… the paper should have been signed… but it would do us ALL a big favor if the school district got their asses sued off for NOT doing anything since they put all these rules in the books that neutered the nurses in the 1st place (because they were scared of legal action if they DID do anything).

  • Misskittychaos

    As an asthmatic this nurse should have a pillow held over her face!  Asthma attacks are seriously terrifying, when I have them my teeth hurt, I feel panicky and I can taste metal/blood.  I get that the parents screwed up but I can honestly say of all the schools I attended (we moved A LOT) no nurse/teacher has ever denied me use of my inhaler, hell once when I had Whooping Cough (can’t have the vaccine) a school nurse used someone who had the exact RX I did when I went down.

    The nurse should be punished IMHO because on top of it no 911 call was made (BTW the dispatch would most likely tell her to give the child his inhaler).

  • derae

    I have a hard time watching a bug that is trapped on its back let alone watching a kid struggling to breathe.  How in the hell do you call yourself a human being if you are just going to stand there and watch him gasp for air?  Fuck the paperwork!  Get the kid help and then figure out what papers are missing.  Is a piece of paper really worth a kid’s life?  She didn’t call 911?  I’m sorry but that alone is worth someone losing their job over.  Couldn’t she have called the mom and asked for permission to administer the inhaler and then worry about the precious paperwork?

    And tdavid is absolutely correct.  Implied consent!  Stabilize the patient first, then worry about consent.  That nurse needs her license revoked.

  • derae

     tdavid, I’m surprised you aren’t a widow after your husband made a comment like that lol.  I would have seriously hurt him ;p

  • newstarshipsmell

    There’s a huge difference between making outrageous statements as if you’re serious, in order to provoke an angry response, and making outrageous statements with a token effort to seem serious, in order to provoke laughter. The former is trolling, the latter is what passes for commentary from too many of us on here.

  • tdavid6

    It was terrible – a lot of good that EMT training did for me while I was sitting there shaking my kid, pounding on his back like he was choking, and screaming at him to just take deep breaths. Yeah, my husband thinks he’s funny. Looking back on it, it was just a little bit funny because of how irrational I was acting. I had never seen an asthma attack before, and I don’t know why it didn’t occur to me then that’s what it was. When we took him home from the hospital, I told my son, “Buddy, you scared us to death”. His reply? “Mommy, you scared me to death”.

  • Texas Ranger

    Jelly made from a butt, or jelly for a butt? Whos butt? And why would you want jelly there? I would think it would not only be sticky, but attract fire ants, which could be colossoly painful…unless your into that. I don’t know…why dont I let you explain it.

  • “…the latter is what passes for commentary from too many of us on here.”

    You rang?

  • I agree.  Paper gets signed and is on file, it would remove the human factor.  However, when did inhalers become WMD’s?  If a child has a asthma inhaler it is because they need it for medical reasons.  Why would this be against any policy?  Why, when making a policy about prescription drugs would you include asthma inhalers?  The system is broken when there is no common sense involved.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    They’re the same way about ibuprofen and even fucking LOTION, of all things.  I have a friend whose daughter has eczema, and the school nurse told my friend that she would need a permission slip from her doctor allowing the school to put lotion on the spots where her daughter had eczema.  It’s some really fucked up shit these days.  I’m just waiting for school safety officers to be replaced by the TSA.  School just isn’t school without your daily patdown.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    That’s pretty much true.  I’ve run into some good school nurses, but there are some who are school nurses because they just couldn’t measure up to a hospital’s standard of care.

  • Is this permission form thing the mom was supposed to have signed specifically just for the kid to be able to carry the inhaler on him? Cause wouldn’t they have a separate form for the school to have an extra inhaler in their nurses office? That’s how it was when I was a kid, always having to go to the office to suck on some albuterol, but if your parent wanted you to be able to have the medicine on you, they’d have to fill out some separate form.

  • abbys_mom

    I agree completely that the mother should’ve signed it, and shares some responsibility. But as a mother with kids in high school, I’ve experienced the huge load of crap you have to constantly sign, over different issues…seems like something is always being sent home, along with other forms. If this kid is on other meds, it would be easy to overlook one form for one med. Also, some schools don’t require forms for asthma inhalers, only for meds in pill dosage form, and if it’s something they changed recently, or the mother wasn’t aware that an inhaler also had to be signed for, I could see it being overlooked. It can get confusing which meds you need forms for and which you don’t, which have to be kept with the teacher, and which you are allowed to carry with you. In my stepdaughter’s school, she is allowed to carry her inhaler, and nothing has had to be signed.

    I have to disagree with the second part though, that this wouldn’t be a story…something’s seriously “off” about a person who can watch a child going through an asthma attack and do nothing to help, even bend the rules and give the kid some puffs off his inhaler, and deal with the technicality later. I’ve known a school nurse to use another child’s epipen on a kid when he had no release form to save his life, because it was a first bee sting and of course, no one knew he was allergic. Common sense should prevail. Someone who would do this, I dunno, I just have a strong feeling that this nurse would’ve ended up in the news somehow. 

  • onlyme356

    Nowadays the school will make the parent sign a release form to have medication in the school’s nurses office abnd it stays there. You’re suppose to go to the office and have it administered if you need it. Not sure if the same applies to inhalers, but with any prescription pill, the student is required to get it from the nurse’s office.

  • onlyme356

    It seems as if common sense was lacking. She was probably so caught up in the policies and not losing her job, but there are times when you simply can’t go by the book. I do agree with Morbid though, if it’s that important, the parent really needs to take care of it. It’s a pretty simple form to fill out and sign, she really should have taken a few minutes just to do it. She really could not expect the rules to be bent for her. But I do agree that the nurse took the rule a bit overboard. Liability is a major deal in schools.

  • onlyme356

    School nurses have always kind of sucked. I remember going to the school nurse as a kid, all they’d do is tell you to lie down or go to the bathroom. That was the remedy for everything.

  • newstarshipsmell

    But, wait, what? I haven’t even used this as an avatar yet!

  • sweatpoo

    More importantly than any paper needing signing, that Nurse took an oath to do no harm. Any reasonably prudent RN would have called 911. Not doing anything is negligent and I am sure her State Board will be reviewing this one. Often time we nurses make judgement calls (wrong or not), and she may have thought the boy was over-reacting.

  • I meant that this wouldn’t be a story because had the mother signed the papers, the kid would have simply used his inhaler and not had the attack that the nurse watched.

  • This is the unintended consequence of living in such a litigious society.  Governmental bodies and companies have to be so aware of possible lawsuits that we have bureaucratized daily living at the expense of common sense.  Every time we say “there should be a law” is a plea to give away our liberties, and this sort of nonsense is the end result.  It’s a jail of our own making.

  • 90% of the stupid rules found in schools are a result of a lawyer that
    works for that school system drafting up everything that could possibly
    lead to a lawsuit and making everything as impractical as possible to
    prevent them from happening.. this is why we can’t have nice things.

    Let’s not let using our brains and personal discretion get in the way of keeping the school’s ass covered.


    What had the boy died? Would the dumbasses stand around watching and wait for Mom to arrive to call 911, regardless of paperwork or not it probobly would have taken them 30 minutes to look it up and who knows maybe the mom did sign the paperwork, the school just “lost it” or maybe “couldnt find it” Where do they find these school nurses? On parole from the penitentary? If they are not molesting the teenage boys they are finding other ways to fuck up…

  • LeaveMeBe

    Has anyone ever told you that you over think things? Thought so. And I’m not explaining anything.

  • A local 13 year old girl died about 3 months ago locally here of an asthma attack. The thing was her asthma had never been diagnosed. Paper work be damned. It’s not like this was plain old aspirin or cough drops. It was vital to help him survive and a penny ass nurse stood around to see what shades of blue he could turn? Who would have complained if she’d helped save this student?” The school? The fucking parents? WTF?

  • LeaveMeBe

    I feel you with the level of stupidity they are trying to achieve. Five years ago when my son was on Accutane and he had a special chapstick to use that we could only get from his dermatologist I went through similar crape from the nurses office in high school. It wasn’t prescription but I had to hand carry it to the school and give it to the nurse and when he wanfed to use it he was to go to her. Yeah, uh-huh, sure. I spent another $12 and he carried it in his back pack.


    What is he had died? Where do they find these nurses? On parole from the penitentary? Mom could very well have sent the paperwork in but it was miraculously “lost” or “misplaced”and the rest of the staff is no better.

    What if he had diabetes, or seizures? Guess theyd lock him in a room and watch that also, had to take Mom time to get there through traffic, this pisses me off, not one person at the school had even the common sense to call 911, not even the principal. Anyone working at a school, please breal the rules and call 911 for the sake of the kids…

  • Snickering_Hydra

    Oh, I see.

    So “School Nurses” now have the same qualifications as substitute P.E. teachers. Good to know.

  • James Stadel

    Really, we’re talking about a kids life and you’re all bitching about the mother not signing a form???

  • pikeman

    I think, in this case you’re confusing “Hippocratic Oath” with “Hypocratic Oath” being how she was a nurse and all. 

    Swearing in on the “Hippocratic Oath” and watching someone possibly dying, yet doing nothing, makes her a hypocrite, right?

  • pikeman

    I think she swore to the “Hypocratic Oath.”

  • As anyone who has kids or has ever turned in a piece of paper for public schools knows, just because you turn it in, doesn’t mean THE SCHOOL won’t lose it themselves or have it in the right place when the time comes. I’ve had my school lose the same piece of paperwork TWICE!! Mom’s due diligence fuck up aside, he WOULD have died of a paperwork technicality.

    Having watched my partner have an almost die from an asthma attack and only survive because his inhaler was nearby him, and knowing one killed his father, I would have had her blood that day. Putting someone I love behind a locked door with GLASS? Are you fucking stupid? I would have had the first file drawer or heavy sharp object I could get my hands on through that window so fast. Even if they survive they can sometimes stroke out in the minutes or days afterward, so even letting one HAPPEN is risky. Sorry, but I would have put my fucking job on the line if I meant I saved the kids life, because trust me, they look down a lot more on a dead kid than they will look down on someone who took the initiative. Rules are put into place for abuse of this issue, not to block an obvious need with the STUDENTS NAME ON THE PACKAGING. A decent RN would know the difference and how to bend the rules. All she would have had to do was put a cuff on him and get his pulse numbers which would have been through the roof. She should have her credential pulled for professional incompetence.

  • This shit just pisses me off. My son goes to Deltona Lakes Elementary and they have ALWAYS called when something went wrong in class. Never had a problem. The fact that Deltona High school is still just as fucked up as it was 15 years ago isn’t saying much for school improvement or saying anything some of the dumb cunts they have running that place. Sorry, but if I walk in and my son is lying on the ground because he can’t breathe someone is getting FUCKED UP. They didn’t call 911 when he was having an asthma attack, but you can bet your ass I walked in there and just started beating the LIVING FUCK out of everyone in sight, the operator wouldn’t be able to keep up with the calls coming in. I fucking hate Deltona sometimes. Stupid shit like this and then the stupid fucking people that live here…. and yet I buy a house here…. fuck….

  • kimbev69

    Lol butt jelly

  • kimbev69

    Maybe mom did sign it or maybe she was only asked to sign it the one time when he started school a few yrs ago, for my daughter who was at a daycare for 5 months from age 1 on, i signed a form for tylenol gave a full unopened box with the consent form specifying fevers and teething, well we get a call about a fever once, we pick her up take her to the dr, we realized after the second time a few months later that she was still burning up 40 mins later when my hubby showed up so he asked and they told him i had never given them the tylenol or letter, he requested to see the nurse and where the meds were kept, and there it was in the same unopened pkg in a baggy with the permission slip, her fever was almost 103.5 Needless to say i filed a complaint with cps of medical neglect, febrile seizures run in our family, my little cousin started getting them at about a yr and a half

  • kimbev69

    Theis is bullshit, my son told me people were doing lines in the lunch room on the friggen table on a daily basis even after i reported it, and they sold every kind of drug u can imagine by exchanging money then later in the day the dealer would put the drug in his hood and the customer would place an arm around him like greeting him and get his drugs fr the hood, again reported and nothing

  • That is awesome! I hate her boobs though.

  • My daughter has asthma. When she cant breathe, it is a horrifying thing to see. Being a parent of an asthmatic child, that stupid form you have to put on file is a high priority. Pleading the defense that the kid had been going to that school doesnt matter. She totally dropped the ball (bet she gets that form in!) on this one, and her son suffered for it, but the nurse is the biggest offender here. She woulda got the beat down of her life had that been my child. No job is more important than a childs life. Its sad that school policy and fear of losing your job determines whether a child lives or dies. Hope this is a lesson for both of them, Mom and Nurse. 

  •  when I enrolled my daughter in school this year, they told me she had to keep her inhaler in the nurses office. I laughed in their faces and said, no she isnt. She had marching Band in the morning, and if she needed her inhaler on the field, WTF made them think she would be able to GET to the nurses office to get her inhaler during an attack? No problems with her carrying her inhaler in her backpack 🙂 Dont fuck with my kids!

  •  more like drop kicked her in her face!

  •  school admin lose paperwork all the time. when my son went from freshman center to the high school (which was next door, literally) they managed to lose his enrollment paperwork…going from one building to another,they LOST them. So I had to get all the normal stuff together AGAIN, which meant I had to take time off work. Most ISD admins are dumbfucks.


    She didnt even offer him comfort, my son fell down the stairs once and broke his nose, all the teachers just stood around and stared at him, I was furious, not one single adult even offered him comfort, just stood there and watched him bleed, dirty bitches.

  • Sam

    Uhh… surely ‘boobs’ and ‘hate’ don’t belong in the same sentence together? 😉

  • @Sammmmmmmmmmmmmm:disqus Normally no, but hers look like unmovable boulders.

  • J

    That’s absurd. My son had asthma and grew out of it.  Even a small attack is scary and that nurse is an incompetent.

  • kimbev69

    This woman in chg at the daycare was argumentative from day one but my husband was affiliated with this church “calvary temple of wayne nj” i will out them every chance i get, anyway we had such stress cause he felt i overreacted whereas i have a 23 yr old son and my opinion is that when u get that hinky feeling take ur kid out

  • tdavid6

    In my child’s school, inhalers and epipens are the only medications allowed to be kept on the student, and only because of the time sensitive nature of the conditions that they treat. Everything else has to be kept in the office.

  • tdavid6

    Many of them are only LPNs, with 9-18 months of training. I have more on-the-job training than that as a parent.

  • tdavid6

    When my youngest son was 4 he stuck a screw up his nose at school (he’s a hoarder, don’t even ask). It was so far up there that it started causing bleeding. The teacher called me at work, and said she was calling an ambulance. I asked her if he was conscious, alert, and breathing okay, and she said yes. I told her not to call an ambulance, I will come get him. I called my husband, who works in HVAC. He went to the school with a powerful industrial magnet and it sucked the screw right out of our son’s nose. The janitor told my husband he wanted to do the same thing but the administrators wouldn’t let him. I’m sure because of fear of litigation. I guess I’m glad that at least they had the sense to call an ambulance (even though we really didn’t need one, better safe than sorry). But the schools just act like they can’t use common damn sense anymore because of litigation.

  • tdavid6

    In KY, the Good Samaritan law only applies to those with no medical training (the rule of thumb is to act reasonably and “do no further harm”). If you are a a medically trained professional, you are not protected here under the Good Samaritan law. It doesn’t give this nurse a pass to sit by and watch a kid die. Laws be damned, I’d rather lose my job than have to go to bed everynight for the rest of my life knowing I did nothing to help a dying kid.

  • tdavid6

    I was on Accutane. That stuff is some serious shit. My lips peeled off in sheets, I lost the ability to sweat, couldn’t produce saliva, and had to have a pregnancy test and bloodwork done every month to make sure it wasn’t damaging my liver or kidneys. But my skin has never been so clear  🙂

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    You are assuming she’s an RN, I can’t imagine someone with those credentials and capable of making real money working in a school. I’m betting she was an LPN.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    Calm down, he’s not going anywhere until after September/October vacation. I won’t even be on until I get back into town to change it.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    I still like the old one better. I prefer blue over pink any day. 🙂

  • Yes, you’re probably right.  Many of the nurses in our district are LPN’s.  Sometimes the schools have to share nurses. and they swap every other day with a Health Assistant.  Scary shit.

  • Let me explain for you Ranger. Butt-jelly is cellulite on a woman’s butt. I live in the NE, so fire-ants aren’t a possibility. Any other questions?

  • I took care of it for you LMB. No worries!  ;-P

  • Yeah…now that the government has managed to change it’s purpose from being our protectors to being our keepers, who needs common sense and compassion?

  • I imagine Butt-Jelly is a lot like Toe-Jam:


    dead skin cells
    skin oil
    tiny balls of toilet paper
    wet farts


    mix first six ingredients together between two butt-cheeks.
    cover with underwear.
    Add wet farts periodically.
    Leave covered for as long as desired.

  •  you got Butt-jelly wrong! I have included a recipe in this discussion to clarify what butt-jelly is…anybody can make it!

  • If the school had it in their records that Michael has asthma that requires medication, Why didn’t they have the parents sign the form when he was registered for school at the beginning of the year????   Does this school inform parents about needing a form or does the school expect that to be “common knowledge”?

    Why did they wait until the end of the school year to “make an example” out of this kid? It isn’t like this was the first time the kid brought his inhaler to school.

    What bothers me the most is the fact that the nurse locked the door.  If the nurse can unlock the door from the inside of the room, so can the kid.  Therefore, the only reason the door was locked was to prevent people from entering it…therefore preventing any kind of rescue should the kid stop breathing completely.

  • Are you serious? It’s a real jelly? Holy nuggets! Please send the recipe lol

  • Tenbux

    Is it for sure that the mother was aware these forms existed and she never signed one ever?  My university lost my highschool transcripts every semester for three years straight.  I’d try to register for certain classes only to be told “wait, who are you?  You’re not in the system” every friggin time.
    Also my highschool required signed parental permission to log on to the internet at school.  I got on two years straight no problem, then suddenly my login credentials were revoked in year #3.  They claimed I never turned one of those forms in EVER. 
    Schools can be horrifically retarded when it comes to paperwork.

  • A Volusia County mother wants her son’s school nurse off the job and arrested.

    Parent Susan Rudi said other children are in danger if the nurse stays on her post, but according to school officials, the nurse did the right thing.

    Lawyer Mark Lippman, who represents George and Cindy Anthony, was hired Thursday to represent Michael Rudi, 17, a Deltona High School senior whose inhaler was taken away Friday after a backpack search.

    The nurse, Shamhia Johnson, an LPN, said Rudi’s mother did not sign the proper paperwork for him to carry the albuterol inhaler. The teen said the nurse wouldn’t give the inhaler to him even when he had an attack.

    “The way it’s being portrayed is not how it happened,” Wait said. “The student was never in a full-blown asthma attack. The administrator and the school nurse, who is a licensed practical nurse, were both watching the student, and at no time did they determine that an ambulance needed to be called for this student. She followed protocol. It’s not only the schools district’s policy to administer medication without the proper paperwork, it’s a state law.”

  • LeaveMeBe

    Oh girl, I know! I had to do two rounds of it, once in my twenties and again in my early thirties. It was arduous but so worth it. I had to do the blood work but I had already had my tubes tied, cut and burned so didn’t have that hassle. Om top of all the symptoms you mentioned, I also had to carry eye drops because my eyes dried out so bad, not to mention my ears and palms of my hand peeling and cracking until they bled. Once again, so worth it though. A lot of people didn’t realize it wasn’t just for cosemetic reasons but that cystic acne is painful as well as embarassing.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Goes well with toe jam.


  • LeaveMeBe

    Thanks Tina. I knew you were my type of gal. 😉

  • tdavid6

    Oh yeah, I forgot about the eye drops, I had that problem too. People didn’t believe me when I said it dried out EVERYTHING. My mom was concerned about me being on it (since they took it off the market because people were going beserk while taking it), but I also had cystic acne and as a trainer that had to be in front of people all day every day, it wasn’t an option. I was willing to take the risk.

  • Siobhan

    When I was an EMT in FL, we were advised that rendering aid in emergencies/accidents was mandatory, even if one happened upon the situation while off duty. This applied to all persons with emergency medical training: doctors, nurses, and EMS personnel.
    Unless the laws have changed over the last 15 yrs or so, the nurse was legally obligated to render medical aid (especially considering that was the job she was *explicitly* hired to perform on school grounds), and rendering medical aid consists of more than just calling the student’s mother, and does not include locking the respiratory distressed student in a room – which could have hampered access to the student by EMS responders, had she actually done her job and called 911.

    I agree with Morbid, this would be a non-issue had the mother made certain all medical forms were properly submitted; however, the nurse failed to do her job, and basically ignored the urgency of the situation by doing nothing to help the student after contacting the mother, preferring instead to pass the aid rendering buck back to the parent while the student’s respiratory distress intensified. With the exception of the student himself, this was a complete failure by everyone that was involved in this incident.

  • TheGuest420

     coming from someone who almost died twice from asthma attack . . not being able to breath sucks really bad. I dont know how she can just stand there and watch . . . sure she didn’t break no laws, but she for sure broke some “common sense” in my book.

  • neenaP

    No matter what the parent failed to do  you dont take an inhaler from someone having an attack and they didn’t call 911.

  • neenaP

    So leave him gasping for air

  •  Pretty sure it just makes her stupid.

  • christopher whiteman

    oh man you people are discusting, but the toe-jam cake sounds good

  • I have asthma. Usually it doesn’t require an inhaler. But one year I had pneumonia, and when I stepped outside in the -2 degree Fahrenheit weather, my larynx spasmed. It was like breathing through a cocktail straw. It was terrifying. I ended up in the E.R.
    This story is chock full of what the FUCK! Both the nurse and the school need to be sued to hell. Fucking bureaucrats! You don’t let someone die because of paper work not being signed.

  • My late grandmother tried to teach me to crochet–one of her many failed attempts to make me more girly. I have the utmost respect for those with the coordination to actually make something more than a chain!

  • Except schools have a tendency to lose paperwork. 

  • LPN or RN, doesn’t matter. You still don’t stand by and let someone suffer like that. LPN’s are real nurses. I happen to be one. And I would never have done something like this.

  • Emily12353

    I actually read some news story about a kid who wasn’t allowed to carry his inhaler with him.  One day he had an asthma attack and had to run all the way to the nurse’s office to get his inhaler, and unfortunately he wasn’t as lucky as the kid in this story who ended up surviving.  The poor kid died all because of that idiotic school.  Although, I’d blame his parents too for not standing up for him like you did for your kid!  Good for you.

  • I don’t have asthma, but I went in to anaphylaxis once, and not being able to breathe scared the living doodies out of me.  And I have taken various combat trainings for the last 29 years to overcome pain and panic, but when you can’t breathe, all that training goes right out.  This story clearly illustrates the problems we have allowing the government too much say in our everyday lives, to include our schools:  0 tolerance, no child left behind act, mooch-hell obama telling us what we can feed our kids while running around in her cankle exposing dress eating big macs…  common sense and parents having a voice are gone.  If I was this kids parents I would be (justifiably) outraged, and taking the actions they are.  Endangering life because of “policy” set by government laws is a farce.  

  • ZombieStomp

    That’s where basic and rudimentary common sense is supposed to come in. The Hippocratic oath is ‘Do No Harm.’ I’d say that cruelly watching him turn blue while denying critical medicine because of a forgotten ‘form’ falls into that category, and maybe quite a few judicial others.
    The child should have gotten his inhaler WITH HIS NAME ON IT asap, while the parent is called in to the sick child and asked to sign the form while there before they leave.
    Unbelievable, and too stupid for school. Bureaucracy does NOT come before a child’s life.

  • dmn88me

    After I forcibly made my way in to the locked room, secured the inhaler and made sure my son could breath again I’d of gone medieval on this cunt.

    I think her not walking again and shitting in to a bag would please me more than any civil suit.