Drunk Driver In Fatal Hit And Run Was Twice Legal Limit

I couldn’t agree more with the AK-47 statement. Just because you don’t have intentions of harming someone doesn’t justify the consequences of risky behavior. All this on top of the fact that she clearly isn’t a light drinker who didn’t realize she’d had too much; she is a repeated risk to society.

Can’t agree more.  Drunk drivers piss me off.  I wish more of them would do us a favor and hit trees and take themselves out rather than innocent bystanders.

What a bitch hope she gets the max + never allowed to own a lisense again.

With  5 1/2 years of sobriety under my belt these stories cause me great pain. This woman deserves the max punishment for her actions. I also know there is recovery for people like this and if she ever gets sober she has a long road a head of her. I know pain the family is going through is so great.
 I usually stay out of these stories. 

“I feel drunk drivers who kill someone should be charged with second-degree murder. They are no different than someone unloading an AK-47 into a crowd of people, with no intentions of shooting anyone. In both cases, if someone is killed by their actions, the death was caused by dangerous conduct and the offender’s obvious lack of concern for human life. That, by legal definition, is second-degree murder.”

Yes.

I had a friend who had several DUIs and drove without insurance for six years.  When he was finally stopped again (because of fictitious/photoshopped stickers on his plate), he was eligible for getting his license reinstated.  Which he did.  After lots of fines and the cost and bother of the interlock, the court had it removed and his license revoked for failing the test (you can’t party the night before and then drive to work – too many failed tests and they remove the device.)  So now he just drives illegally again.  I don’t mind people that drink, but if you’re going to do so, sleep it off before you drive home.  This girl’s life is ruined because of a bad decision that was completely avoidable.  Sigh

Congratulations on staying sober for 5 1/2 years. It’s a major achievement. 

“She wont do any real jail time, maybe a year tops if she fails to pay the fines maybe.”

 Not going to happen she will do jail time. Especially with her priors.  There is a big difference with having just multiple DUIs and  Killing someone while driving under the influence.

Here is a little fun fact from Illinois
they have a “Cause of Action Against Seller for Injury by Intoxicated Person” Statute”
every person who is injured by an intoxicated person has a right of
action against the licensed drinking establishment that sold the alcohol
that caused the intoxication. This statue excludes person under the influence who caused the injury.
Point to this is she stated she had drank in 3 different bars prior to her accident.

She was driving drunk and without a license or insurance, and she apparently has no sense of personal responsibility.  There are enough public transportation options available in Chicago that would have gotten her home, so she has no excuse for driving drunk.  She needs the most harsh penalty possible.  It probably won’t teach her a damned thing, but it will keep her off of the road.

I so agree I’m from Chicago there are so many close and various forms of transportation to avoid this mishap…..my guess shes just a f-in idiot and deserves time

That seems a bit heavy, and over reaching.

“Bartender, did you know she was going to drive drunk/assault/shoot/kill the plaintiff?”…”No, as with all patrons, I can’t keep tabs on everyone, I have to assume everyone will act safely by getting a taxi ride, a ride with friends, or walk home, that they’ll act responsibly”

I don’t see many on a jury not being able to find reasonable doubt of the bars intent.  I would expect it’d be a very difficult legal battle.

I think you’re right. If you sneeze hard enough you trip over a cab and there are bars everywhere within walking distance of anywhere.  She’s a loser.

Florida has a similar law. Many companies that write Homeowner’s Insurance here ask if the applicant has been arrested for DUI, DWI, or any other type of driving under the influence. If, in the last 10 years, you have it disqualifies you for the insurance because they don’t want to have to pay the liability claims for your drunk friends accidents.

 Five and a half years–well done!

I haven’t heard of that being used very much – is it even seeing the light of day ?

 I have no clue I came across it while looking up the laws for Illinois driving under the influence.
I was looking up the penalty for something like this( killing a person while under the influence) and it was Class 4 felony punishable by 1-12 years in prison along with misc other fines and so forth.  I was curious as to amount of prison time.

So she’s 21, and this is her 7th DUI charge in 5 years?  Only this time she killed some poor guy and drove off, leaving him in the street.  She had no DL and no insurance (I wonder whose car it was).

I’m with Morbid.  She should go to prison until she forgets how to drive.  And if they ever let her out and she’s caught behind the wheel of a car, she should go right back to prison.

You’re DARN TOOTIN MORBID!!! I abhor drunk drivers also! Sure, everbody gets shitfaced but either at home, or on your feet is the way to go. At least on your feet you don’t hurt anybody, just yourself. I live in AZ and we have the toughest drunk driving laws in the whole 50 states. Looky here!
http://www.writers-free-reference.com/10duis.htm
Hear me now, and believe me later! This lady is pure cow dung! plain and simple.

Setting aside what this girl did . She deserves every bit of the punishment she gets and some…..

*BELOW STATEMENT by no means is in this girls defense.  I feel like there is a lot of self righteousness that goes on here when people post about drunk drivers
I break my anonymity and put myself out there which means I have in my past driven drunk fortunately I was never in an accident or hurt anyone. Pure Luck! 
 
I would like all people who enjoy the occasional alcoholic beverage to really think back.
 Have you NEVER driven after one or two beers? 
As a teenager parting have you ever driven and probably shouldn’t have?

It’s been my experience that most people have made this mistake in their life. keeping in mind that even if you don’t feel impaired and you drive after 1 or 2 beers  you are more then likely driving while under the influence by the definition of the law.    Add in an accident (may or may not be your fault) and some one is killed and you are one of those people. 
 
I’m not asking anyone to out themselves I’m just saying all individuals should think about their own actions before making such strong statements. I understand those people who have been affected by drunk driving. 

Congrats Gee. I don’t have quite that amount of time, but every day is another one. I’d like to be holier than thou like some folks, but I have driven drunk. many times. Thanks to God I never hurt anyone. I am not proud of that “accomplishment” by any means, but I am proud that I do have the chance to never do it again. This girl is sick and selfish. But all addicts are. No excuses for her. And yeah, like you I avoid commenting on these stories too.

Thank you Gee, I agree 100%

I disagree with Morbids analogy of someone picking up an AK47 and firing it into a crowd.  being the same a DUI fatality.

The intent is totally different.
This woman did not intend to kill anyone. Picking up an AK and shooting people is.
It is the ultimate in irresponsible, but unfortunately you cannot compare it with premeditated murder,

I drank enough before I was able to drive that I actually stopped drinking in my teen years but yes, I have had a drink and driven before and truthfully I beat myself up about it. 

My husband is bad at drinking and driving…I pray for him and more importantly for others who are on the rode with him when he goes to the bar. I can honestly say that if he killed someone or hurt someone that he needs to get locked up. That may be the only thing that will get him to stop sadly. 

 I agree Stiffer penalties are definitely needed .  I am not totally against @morbid:disqus  with the 2nd murder charge either. But if we do this with DUI we should very well do it with people who text while driving as well. 

Ranger!!! I knew you were a drunk when I first read ya. Just bulls*itting. Congratulations. I know several alcoholics and sadly they aren’t as brave as you and Gee.  They are still in the denial phase.

I’m just in awe how these laws/prosecutions even occour, who makes the decision on who to stop who from getting charged?  “Ma’am, you gave birth to Mr. Pabst, if you had made your lover wear a condom, this poor family wouldn’t have been killed.”  Did they go after his grandparents too?

(Not hating, just thinking aloud at that blatant injustice of suing SW Airlines for his behavior.)

I said it on the last drunk driving article, drunk drivers DON’T FUCKING LEARN.  1/3 of all DUI stops are from repeat offenders.  Some DO learn, but it’s not common.

If she was charged with 7 dui’s over 5 years, just imagine how many times she drove drunk, think of how many that actually translates too.

I see someone that should (normally) get pulled over almost everytime I drive, no turn signal, speeding, tailgaiting, headlights out…etc, you just never see a cop when you want one.

I dated this girl in highschool. few years after graduating, i had the pleasure of meating the unfortunate gentleman who lost his life. I never kept in touch with her, simply because the cunt was a stupid fucking bitch….Now this? I hope she rots in prison for a few decades….is that harsh? I dont give a fuck…i know the guys motehr too, and it’s unbelievable…I almost feel like a piece of shit for ever dating her…

Gee, I come from a long line of drunks.  I am always aware of alcohol and the place it holds in my life because I truly feel I have the propensity to be an alcoholic – I know not everyone believes things along those lines – but I believe it is in my genes.  I know I joke a lot about booze but in reality I don’t drink much anymore.  I decided that booze shouldn’t hold that big of a place in my life — I have way too much to lose to take any chances.  A big time for me, is 3 drinks.  I won’t drive if I consume any alcohol. Back in the day, I rarely drove so it wasn’t issue but I still had a DUI when I was 22 – long time ago but I remember it all too vividly to this day.  It’s never happened again.  Being arrested was a horrifying experience.  I don’t know if I cried as much when my Father died as I did that night.  It took just one experience for me to learn my lesson – it just doesn’t click for others.  I guess I should consider myself lucky.    

 Ha Ha …. I can relate too well to this statement.

Agreed.

Shame too, she looks like she WAS a knockout, then again, looks degrade when stupidity is that prevalent.

It takes a lot to admit you were wrong. 
I am not a fan of alcohol and have seen to many people screw up their lives because of it. There are many alcoholics in my family and now I just stay away from the stuff for the most part. Because I was directly affected by the consequences of a drunk driver I won’t even get behind the wheel after one drink. 

The system will make her into a recurring paycheck, if she has even a remote ability to work. They may not give her a DL again, but I bet no more then 1 year jail and then to a half way house, where they can claim to be “monitoring”‘ her but collecting a even bigger check cause now they can charge room and board too!. 

DUI in Colorado= Long Term Operating Revenue for broke city’s and county’s  

Yeah, non-alcoholics just don’t and can’t understand it.

Malq, if someone goes to a party and shoots off an AK-47, not intending to kill anyone, yet there are fatalities anyhow, that isn’t any different than a drunk driver getting behind the wheel of a car unintentionally plowing into a family of four.  Personally, I believe that drunk drivers are the height of selfish arrogance and should be punished much more harshly than they are in our society.  I will never forget watching (don’t hate) an Oprah episode where a family was travelling in a limo and was hit by a drunk driver.  Their little girl was decapitated and the mother sat on the side of the road holding her dead daughter’s head, refusing to let go of all that was left of her daughter.  I have family members who drink and drive and it infuriates me to no end.  If you have the dough to go get plastered, you should put some aside for a cab.  Heck, there are even cab companies that are willing to give you a free ride home in certain cities or around certain times of the year.

That movie plot sounds pretty awesome. Let me know if you find the title, I may have to.watch it.

In any case, this twunt knew she was drunk, had prior DUIs/DWIs and was SPEEDING when she hit this guy. Then, if all that wasn’t bad enough she left the guy to die like roadkill and continued driving. What if that person she hit was a 6 year old? I bet a lot more people would be saying off with her head.

I really hope for the day they allow vigilante justice. An eye for an eye. This broad deserves it.

Yeah, I’d be dead. But they only run my life when not operating machinery or eating with others…that’s just plain rude.

At least your aware, most others are oblivious……

I completely believe you can have a propensity for becoming alcoholic based on your genes. As I’ve said before many of my family members are alcoholics. The only person I ever had set an example for me that was positive my father, who worked for Budweiser, and could stop at one drink. So far I have escaped my family’s tendency to drink far too much and far too often. A good example of how central hooch is to my family is this little gem: my first serious boyfriend and I discussed getting married and I told my mother I would not be having alcohol at the wedding, she actually told me she wouldn’t come. This from a woman who is diabetic and on drugs that strictly forbid drinking. I suppose it’s possible that I could have started drinking later in life, but because I felt that drinking was just asking for trouble I stopped drinking completely in my early twenties.  
I can honestly say with 100% accuracy that I have never ever gotten behind the wheel of the car after drinking even one sip of alcohol. Had my father not been killed by a drunk driver I might have had a different attitude about it, but I have a zero tolerance policy for driving under the influence. 
I know people can make mistakes. I’ve made several myself. This girl, however, has been given several chances to straighten up her act and hasn’t. I know people who have had DUIs and I’m not going to lynch them because they fucking learned their lesson and never did it again. Habitual DUIs can go fuck themselves.   

I HATE drunk drivers with a passion. I had a good friend killed by one several years ago. The man was on either hias 4th or 5th DUI and he has already been out of prison for a few years now. Brian (my friend that was murdered by the POS) was about to propose to his girlfriend, he had a good future ahead of him, this douche bag hit him going 130 MPH and killed him. The fact that driving drunk is dangerous is no secret, so I agree that it should be treated as murder.

>That movie plot sounds pretty awesome. Let me know if you find the title, I may have to.watch it.

It does sound interesting…I’d like to know the name of the movie too.

like i said, i knew both of these people…and its truly surreal…its a shame that b’s life is now in the shitter, and an even bigger shame that j lost his life for it…im at a loss of words. i hope she gets jail time…maybe i was harsh in saying a few decades, because its such a fucked up situation…and ive seen so many fucked up situations in the past 3 years of my life, it really desensitizes you…but she most definetly deserves time..and ill have no problem telling her that when i go to see her….un fuckin real…honestly…i just keep thinking aobut j’s mom and sister….with that in mind….im also thinking about biancas mom and dad…who are unbelievably nice people…they didnt deserve a daughter like this…i just dont know

Colorado has a similar law. Serving anyone who is visibly impaired  is illegal, or knowingly allowing them to operate a motor vehicle while impaired. If it can be proven you did so, any damage that the patron my cause to himself or others, who ever holds the liquor license could be liable in both criminal and civil cases.

Think it even apply’s to everyday citizens as well, Cant let anyone drive if you know they are drunk.

“Already Dead” Is the movie title.  God that’s been bugging me all day.

Plot Synopsis

“A happy and successful family man is lured down the destructive path of revenge after his son is killed and his wife brutalized in a vicious home invasion. Thomas Archer (Ron Eldard) had it all, a successful career as a senior associate at a prominent architectural firm, a beautiful wife, and a wonderful child. Just when it seemed that things couldn’t get any better for Thomas, however, his life was suddenly transformed into a waking nightmare. One night, a violent criminal breaks into Thomas’ home, attacking his wife and senselessly murdering his innocent young son. In the aftermath of the tragedy, Thomas implores the police for help in catching the criminals while attempting to pick up the pieces of his broken life by visiting a highly respected therapist (Christopher Plummer). When local law enforcement fails to turn up any leads, Thomas’ therapist suggests that the vengeful father contact a mysterious group with the resources to ferret out his son’s killer and let the father exact the any kind of justice that he sees fit. His marriage failing, Thomas decides to take his therapist up on the offer”

Morbid, it’s your article and your soapbox, lay it down as you see fit. Second degree murder sounds about right:

Second degree murder n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an
assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility.

Sounds like 2nd degree to me!

After 32 years of marriage, and surviving the death of two of their children, my aunt’s husband was killed by a drunk driver. She is little crazy now…

Alcohol is a insidious drug. Those that have never been affected by it’s wrath are lucky. It can  definitely be an  inherited gene. Some have it, most don’t.

Those that do are powerless over it once they start drinking. They lose common sense and don’t have the judgment to say NO, or to not drive.

People like this chick are sick, very sick. She is probably not an evil person that you guys make her out to be. Her criminal acts are a direct results of her sickness.  She did not CHOOSE to kill someone. I know people will disagree with this, but those that do don’t get how alcohol takes over your life and you have no control over it.

I do not mean she should get off or not face the music, I just think a different view of this government sanctioned, heavily taxed, most popular drug, is needed  in this thread.

 I was talking about murder, culpable homicide..that kind of thing.

 Florida (suprisingly) has this kind of law as well,  Used to work at a supermarket that sold beer/wine – If you could not stand that well, or make sense. NO BEER FOR YOU!

 LOL Thank you, just tryin to spread the word.

Pabst= a freakin hilarious name for a drunken fool.
That’s all I got.

 God protects drunks and babies is an old addage that rings true.
There is scientific fact behind this that has nothing to do with a fictitious spirit.  Drunks are so relaxed the bounce around like a beanbag rather than a tensed person who is so rigid before impact the literally break. babies of course have soft bones and cartilage.  nature made it so they can survive more than would be expected in an incident.

I admire you very much, gee, and I am very happy for you. (((((gee)))))

i went to high school with her. She was a really nice person. Apparently she didn’t always make the right choices. I hope god has mercy on her. The aftermath of all this cant be pretty. Everyone makes mistakes though… Its just a sad situation.

I don’t think it’s fair to put the blame on the people around her. It is a well-documented impossibility to get an addict to turn their life around if they don’t want to themselves. Even if they had physically dragged her to a rehab centre, unless Bianca wanted to stop drinking her life away it would have been a useless exercise. It’s one of the biggest heartaches of anyone close to an addict of any sort, to watch that devastation going on and knowing that whatever you try to do to make things better is probably not going to make any difference whatsoever.