Police Say 8-Year-Old Consented To Sex On School Bus

Because parents want to place the blame somewhere other than their own child…I am so sick of hearing…”my child would never do that!”  It’s called taking responsibility, and placing the blame where it needs to be placed, something that these parents obviously know nothing about.  This is exactly what is wrong with society today, no one wants to take responsibility!  SMDH!

kids will be kids lol..hahahaa just kidding.  castrate the little 13 year old romeo? shit whatever maybe the cops are right just let this one die.  they are both under 14 so really neither can consent to shit but its pretty hard to say the 13 year old  is a rapist if the 8 year old said hell yeah lets do it (presumably in american sign language) and did you see those kids?  the eight year old is taller then the 13 year old and outweighs him by at least 15 pounds.  i’m sure she could take him an mma fight.  

That last line, made me laugh, now I feel bad laughing at a story like this!  lmao

“… captured on the bus’ video surveillance camera.” 

Really? 

They pay people to watch video tapes. 

I could have been a doctor.  I could have been a lawyer.  I could have been anything, but four years of college just to sit all day watching video tapes, dam, that’s too much!! 

But, I have to ask, “is this a step up or down” from being a shoe salesman like Al Bundy?

Would popcorn be considered a business expense?

Pretty ballsy kids to get busy with 2 adults on board.  I don’t understand why the aid took so long to notice what was going on.  Shouldn’t they walk the isle every so often, even if just to let them know he’s paying attention.  As far as any charges being filed here, sure the aid should be repremanded, but I don’t think charged.  I think both kids need counseling, no charges. 

I am curious – what exactly do people want the police to do with the deaf 13 year old boy ? I don’t think persecuting  him will help anything.I think more good would come of counseling both these kids,and educating them on why this was not acceptable behavior.

I enjoyed reading your comment,but what exactly is your point ? Do you not think the video should be reviewed when things like this are reported ? 

Since this is dealing with the deaf community things are a little different then they are in the hearing community. This 13 year old very well may not of known that having sex with an 8 year old was wrong because of how far behind the educational system is in many deaf communities.

I’m not saying what was done was right and I absolutely do not believe that an 8 year old is capable of consenting to much of anything but it may not be as simple as we want to make it.

When I was in a film class for the summer in elementary school I had a huge crush on a deaf boy which fueled  my desire to learn it. When I went to MSU I studied ASL and much of that is learning and understanding the culture of the deaf community. At one point I was going to tranfer to Gallaudet University so that I could surround myself with the community and understand the culture to become a better translator but my mother guilt-tripped me out of it. 

” It is not like there are not state transfers into other systems… even for the poor.”

John – deaf does not equal poor,and good schools which specifically educate the deaf are harder to come by.

 What I would like to know about this case is where exactly did these two learn how to do “it” ? I would be interested in this because at 13 I didn’t have a good understanding about how to actually do “it”.Being that these two are both deaf I am kinda shocked that they apparently had the knowledge to do “it”.

And while I’m on this thought train – I keep wondering about this 8 year old … was she a virgin ? I realize that all virgins do not bleed all over the place,but it seems to me that a lot of them are known for that … even if I had attempted this act at 8,or 13 and got past the whole penetration thing the shock of blood all over the place would have ended it quickly,and sent me in for therapy. I’m thinking home life needs to be checked out for both of these kids.

 I doubt it’s a money thing, I bet there aren’t any other schools for the deaf in the area. I’m assuming they’re few and far between. I would really hope they’d transfer out if they had an alternative.

But I bet you’re right, they’ll  probably still try to get some money out of the school for it. Hopefully not.

How many seconds does it take? 

So if an 18 year old has intercourse with a 15 year old it can be statutory rape on a technicality, but an 8 year old is able to give ‘consent’? I have an 8 year old that still sleeps with a blankie and has to be reminded to eat sometimes.

When I was 8, I just wanted to go outside to play. I wanted to ride my bike and go to the park and watch Inspector Gadget in the tv & play super nintendo.

Now as a teacher I’ve taken classes to deal with children with disabilities when teaching them and somewhere in there I read that deaf and blind children (especially the blind) tend to develop psychological sexuality a bit different from the children without disabilities because there are visual and hearing cues they can’t grasp.

Now, these aren’t blind kids. These kids are DEAF and he might’ve not heard a “no” but she can sure as hell Helen Keller a NO.

When I was 13 I knew what sex was and I was one of the most innocent girls in my class (we’d gotten a pregnant girl back in the 7th grade & one every year until Senior year in my private CATHOLIC high school) and I was NOT into 3rd graders. Hell, my little brother was in 3rd grade and he was a major pest. With all of that said: “WHY WOULD AN 8th GRADE BOY THINK AN 8yr old IS SOMETHING HOT TO TAP!?” Even if the girl is so pretty, she still has no body parts that a sexually healthy 13yr old would want to touch…

Paedophile in the making????

They may be the ones he learned the inappropriate touching from. I’m always a little suspicious when kids show a lot of sexual knowledge. This wasn’t a “show me yours and I’ll show you mine”. 

Depends on the position.

And truthfully many deaf parents don’t want their children going to a hearing school any more then they want them to get the cochlear implant. There is a strong pride associated with being deaf and some (many) don’t like or dare I say are prejudice against the hearing world.

 I have no idea who issued the “consented” statement,but I do know that the word in this context runs contrary to the law.A minor can not “consent” to a sexual act by law.

Not sure what to make of some of your comment … but some of your points are indeed valid.When I was 13 I do not recall ever being attracted to any elementary school girls at all, only other Jr High,or High school girls. 

“Federal Law mandates that children with special needs must be accommodated and so the school in question is not the only one.”

I have met parents of special needs children who have had to relocate because the only schools in the area they had moved from,which were suited to their children, were too far away for day to day driving.The law says schools  have to accommodate the kids – you are right,however accommodating does not mean providing the child with targeted education they may well be in need of.

Since neither could consent I think it is a draw and no charges should be brought. I am thinking they didn’t have sex like the sex we are thinking, else they would have been caught sooner. I think they probably were experimenting, like most kids do, and went too far. 

Did your household have the internet when you were 13?  Mine did… and I knew exactly how to do “it” by that age.

I think people tend to underestimate media these days, because most of today’s adults didn’t grow up with the internet.  All you have to do is *not* shelter your children, and they can easily learn their way around human anatomy.  

Umm, NO. An 8 year old can’t consent to jack shit. A five year difference is also well outside the bounds of Romeo and Juliet laws. And a 13 year old who wants to have sex with an 8 year old is a PEDOPHILE. This pisses me off.

 This doesn’t necessarily mean that someone reviews tapes all day. For all you know the 8 year old told someone what happened and they reviewed the tapes. These cases usually have a lot more information that is not disclosed for investigation purposes. Aside from that, I’m glad there was surveillance. How else would the matter have been completely proven?

Hello Athena.To answer your question  – “No.” The whole computer/internet thing never occurred to me till just now when you brought it up.I agree with you.There were no PC’s like we have today when I was a kid.I used to have to get on my oldest boy constantly about porn on his computer account when he was a teen,I never had problems with my younger boy and porn,but the older one was something else.It did slow him down some when I explained to him one day that if our PC was ever confiscated and it was found that he had saved porn on his account that him,and his brother would be taken from me.

Federal law says students with disabilities must be accommodated, AND that they must be accommodated at the nearest approriate school to their local school district.  It is likely, based on the court’s findings, that this remains the nearest appropriate school.  If the family persues this, they will first go into mediation, but again, based on the lower court’s findings, they probably will not be successful. 

It’s also important to keep in mind that suing for large amounts of money isn’t about greed, it’s about hitting businesses (including school districts) where it hurts. 

I have to say  for the first time ever I am shocked by the comments. An 8 year old girl was raped by a 13 year old boy and you all think it has to do with money or that a 13 year old boy isn’t mature enough or doesn’t know right from wrong. We are not talking about developmental disabilities, we are talking about deaf. He raped her and should be charged. Yes kids do experiment, but I am sorry a 13 year old does not experiment with an 8 year old. He is a pedo and should be treated as such. I know if it was my child I would do all I could to have the rapist charged. 13 year old boys do know what sex is.

Ya’ll realize that an 8 yr old CONSENTED to having sex??? I am wondering why at 8, a girl wants to have sex! I remember at that age hating when we’d have to play with boys because they wanted to run & not play with barbies… I wonder what’s going in that house that an 8yr old says: “let’s have sex” because they know what it’s about…

13 is a minor too.

Right on!

If I thought my child had been violated I would not have them in the same school as the perpetrator. Where did she learn this sexual behavior?

You are sure about that?

Then where in the f*ck did I read that what I said was true!?

It would’ve been nice if it was though. You’d be set on bad words for all ethnicities.

I’ve had internet access in my bedroom on my own computer since I was ten. I can’t imagine NOT having it. 

seriously….i was recently SHOCKED when i found out some of the 7th grade 13-year-old boys were not virgins…(not to mention some of the girls)…
but when i spoke to a male parent of my daughter’s friend, he acted like where have i been???
he says yeah, i was gettin down at 13…
really?
but then again, think about it, with the kinds of porn  on the internet these days, our children are exposed to SO MUCH SO EARLY!!
when my daughter was 9, she accidentally came across two men’s balls slapping against eachother (ya know what i mean)…and i had to explain to her what that was….
yeah, not pretty.
for me it was ok, but for her!!!!!!

not quite…they are both still children…but that 13 year old i would fuck him/her up.

So u are saying the 8 yr old is at fault?

I think the school environment and the bus tapes from the past need to be checked into also

I am so with you on this thus the reason i commented so often i cant believe some of the comments saying dont charge the 13 yr old

You’ve got to be kidding. The girl is 8 years old, not 12 or 13. She’s. 8. She was raped or she didn’t know what she was actually doing if she “consented” An 8 year old simply does not consent to sex. A 13 year doesn’t consent to sex either, I’m pretty sure that boy has been raped or molested and now he’s becoming a perpetrator as well. Or he’s a horny kid who has no boundaries and that in itself is still wrong. WHY did he do an 8 year old? Because he knew a 13 year old girl wouldn’t fly with it. He abused the 8 year old. She had to be in the second grade, are you kidding me? The cops are complete idiots and I question your reasoning as an adult (if you actually are an adult). 

 I see your point KimBev,  I would worry about that 11 year old too.
 what do with excitable Johnnies?  Surely, we can rehabilitate rather than incarcerate juveniles.
A judge should mandate access to that child to attempt to fix him. he is a danger to society.
I don’t have all the answers, but the sooner you can treat someone the better the chances are you can fix them.

Please allow me to quote Athena – as her comment to me is entirely appropriate here:

 ”The term has two usages, the legal and the general.  Legally, a minor
cannot consent.  But to say that these children engaged in consensual
sex is to suggest that no force or manipulation was involved.”

 You would have been correct if you had stated that “some” Sign Language is universal.

I bet she knew exactly what it meant … and I still want to know why she didn’t bleed all over the place … or why there is no mention of it;had her hymen already been broken ? If so how exactly ?

JOHN!!  If your 8 year old daughter ‘had sex’ with a 13 year old on the school bus, wouldn’t you want the police to do something about it?  Since when can 8 year olds have ‘consensual sex’? or am I missing something?

Yeah tell it to the school systems.  Good luck with that, because that shit doesn’t happen like that.

Damn that makes me so mad, I wish I could fly over there and beat that man’s ass myself!!

HAHAA  not long XD XD

Did I defend the 13 year old? I find it difficult to believe that both the 13 year old and the 8 year old had not been sexualized prior to this event. This event should never have happened, but is either more a victim than the other? I don’t think so.

I think the real victimization will be the hoopla which will inevitably scar both child… yes, I said both children.

13 year olds are not young adults. 18 year olds are young adults.

:0) i won my case but it was not for the best, i think if i let it go to court and it was public knowledge what he did i would feel better, now he will victimize others

If it was rape she would be hurting and bleeding. I was married the first time I had sex and it hurt like hell and yes I was bleeding. I’m beginning to think that this wasn’t the kid’s firs ttime. Who knows what happened at home.