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Mother Accused Of Honor Beating After Daughter Talks To BoyPhoenix, AZ – An Iraqi mother is back in jail without bond on charges of assault against her 19-year-old daughter for allegedly beating the girl with a shoe while she was tied to a bed. Yusra Farhan was recently asked in court to explain her actions.

“I swear I didn’t hit her – only slightly, like any parent would do to their children,” answered Farhan.

So, you can see that this is going to go well for her. But, let’s back up a bit, shall we…

Last November, police were first contacted about an alleged assault of Farhan’s daughter, 19-year-old Aiya Altameemi, at the hands of Farhan and another daughter. Officer James Holmes with the Phoenix Police Department said that, in that incident, Farhan and the girl’s 18-year-old sister “held this young lady down while mom took a hot spoon and burned her on the face and on the chest.” Holmes said the burning resulted in a scar on the teen’s chest. The reason…

“The family wanted her to participate in a pre-arranged marriage with a 38-year-old male,” said Officer Holmes.

Phoenix police acknowledge that, while they did take a report on that incident four months ago, it was mislabeled. Because of this, the allegations of abuse – supported with help from the victim’s high school – were not properly followed-up.

According to court documents, on February 10, Aiya Altameemi was hospitalized after – by her mother’s own admission – having been hit by Farhan several times ‘with her hand and with a shoe.’ This, after Farhan became angry because the girl had started speaking with a boy. Farhan also admitted to police that the beating was administered while the girl was tied to a bed at their home. Police, not seeing the zen of it all, arrested Farhan. She was then released on bail.

This beating-with-a-shoe thing led to the earlier complaint being found. Detectives then searched the Iraqi family’s home looking for evidence related to the earlier assault.

A local news crew caught up with the daughter at the family’s home about this time and the girl took the opportunity to withdraw her original claims of abuse. When prodded about her treatment, though, Aiya Altameemi tells a news reporter, “Here it’s not allowed but, for me, it’s normal.”

Officer Holmes was not surprised at the reversal. “It’s not unusual that she says that it didn’t happen, but in fact we have physical evidence that shows that it did,” said Holmes.

“We found enough, and we got enough information on follow-up questions to the witnesses to arrest the three of them today,” added Holmes. The ‘three of them’ refer to Aiya Altameemi’s mother, father, and sister.

Yusra Farhan was re-arrested along with father, Mohammed Altameemi, and sister, Tabarek Altameemi – each charged with aggravated assault and unlawful imprisonment. The mother is without bond while the father and sister are on $20,000 and $7,500 respectfully. It doesn’t really matter, though, because both the father and the sister are on immigration hold – meaning that, even if bond is paid, they will not be released. They are also all on no-contact orders barring them from having any contact with Aiya Altameemi.

The family had stated that they wish to return to Iraq because of all the turmoil surrounding the arrests. They even displayed their intentions with “for sale” signs on every vehicle they own. But for now, nobody is going anywhere.

Regardless, police believe Aiya Altameemi is not out of danger and hope to get her into family advocacy programs to help keep her safe. They have doubts that she will participate.

Let’s hope – with the little breathing room that she has been afforded – that she does. …and check out Officer Holmes in the video. That man should have a talk show. Seriously.

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  • kniption

    There are only two things I can’t stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures… and Iraqis.

  • VXIII

    wow you can see burn marks on her face, she wamts saved buts is too scared if they take this young lady back she will be murdered and burried in  sand, her sister seems to want to kill her…

  • Sam

    Honorable, i see. As honorable as, say, putting on some clothes when you see camera vans pulling up outside your house instead of answering the door in your frigging robe???

    The poor girl looks terrified. We get a lot of these so-called honor situations in the UK, and it’s very very difficult for the girls involved to get out from under their controlling family. It would basically mean her turning her back on all her family, her friends, moving somewhere new and starting completely afresh. It takes an incredibly strong teenager to be able to do that, so sadly most of these girls end up having to stay in abusive marriages or getting married to some perv old enough to be her grandad. Maybe if her family moves back to Iraq and Aiya somehow manages to stay behind in the US she might stand a chance.

  • http://truecrimereport.com iLLusionS

    I think the odds are really stacked against this poor girl.It’s one thing to “honor” your families culture. But so many of these different cultures of folks (some being middle eastern) have these strick cultures and guidelines, then they move their children here to America, with all its freedoms and flexible lifestyles, and wonder why their children want those same freedoms. It’s not rocket science…if you don’t want your child to grow up in the land of the “free”, then don’t bring them here….If our American culture blows for your religious and moral theme…Then you are just in the wrong damn place. I hope this girl gets away and learns to make up her own mind, but sadly it’s doubtful.

  • Sam

    Even sadder – depending on how long ago the parents came to the US – she might even have been awarded more freedom if they had stayed back in Iraq in the first place. Those that leave a country will take with them the morals and stances of the culture at that point in time. So even though Iraqi culture in Iraq will continue to evolve and most likely soften, this girl’s parents are still adhering to the more strict culture they remember from when they moved.

  • http://justiceforcaylee.synthasite.com/ shyloh

    To me it’s clear they know it’s WRONG! Because they lied about it. If you feel you are in the right you just come out and say so.  Which is worse, the lying or the beating to get your children to do as you say? They are GUILTY of both!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Contrary to some peoples belief there is no honor in abusing – err – I mean beating someone.

  • Andy P

    Or worshiping a God or religion that not only tolerates this kind of behavior but also encourages it.  I feel sorry for this girl and I hope she is somehow emancipated from this un-loving family. 

  • Andy P

    Sure there is, Ced..  Did you see this one?  Good grief..  Like someone else said – if you don’t want your kids to learn about what it is to be “free” then don’t bring them over here, just to “honor kill” them? 
     
    http://tinyurl.com/7ye92cf 

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    It’s really sad, but your correct many times these girls go right back to the family because what else are they supposed to do. I saw an excellent report a few years back about the young ladies who are sent to the west to get a college education and are terrified of going back, but don’t see a choice because they are so brainwashed. They even have plastic surgeons that reconstruct the hymen in such a way that it will “bleed” when the girls are married off so their husbands think they are still virgins. One of the girls said her life would be on the line if she couldn’t prove her virginity on her wedding night. 

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/womens-issues/177_2598/restore-your-virginity.html 
    “Create a membrane without blood supply. It is a cosmetic procedure that uses an artificial blood like gelatin substance. It can be performed a few days before someone intends to get married.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “for sale signs on every vehicle they own”

    These Bitches are just trying to get money to bond out of jail.My personal opinion – ship them Bitches up out this country post haste,but only after convicting them of those charges;then bar them from ever coming back to this country and living legally.If the daughter wants to go back to her 3rd world country to live this life – so be it,that is not our problem.Ignorance is a disease which can be cured,but which should be contained to prevent spreading.

  • sugarpie

    If they don’t like our laws, ship’em back where they can beat each other sensless.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I posted that one on my facebook,interesting story;this was on the same page :
    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/09/jennifer_barnes_adopted_a_chil.php 

  • Andy P

    Well, as you know, I don’t do Facebook!  :)  Wow what a POS these people are.  I may have to go do some work soon at this rate.  LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    That’s what I’m saying – respect our shit,or get tha fuck out of here.

  • Lena60

    This is sad to me.I have read  too many stories of young girls being brutally murdered because, they adopted some American ways and did not want to marry some older guy or cousin the parents picked out. It’s a shame.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Being raised around the largest Muslim population outside of the middle east, this doesn’t shock me at all.  “Here it’s not allowed but, for me, it’s normal.” I’m sure she’d rather take the beatings then be disowned for talking to the boy, which is a true possibility. A few of my friends wives have no relationship with their families because the family can’t accept the fact that they married black people. 

    Losing and/or dishonoring your family is a big deal.

  • JohnQknowitall

    I don’t care what religion a criminal may belong, but hiding behind it to abuse other people is unacceptable. Ordinarily I would say send them back, but if they do that ignorant victim will be dead and her younger sister will behave if she knows what’s good for her.

    In Islam, even after death, a wife’s lot is not easy and Paradise changes nothing. After arriving in heaven as an unclean non-virgin she gets to watch her husband have sex with 72 virgins and 28 young boys. What romantics.

  • sugarpie

    Do they not realize that if every Islami man that dies get 72 virgins, that even in “Paradise” they’re gonna run out of virgins???  Who put this idea in their heads?  Sheesh.  ; )

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shannon-Bennett/1803988499 Shannon Bennett

    I love how multicultural Toronto is and I do feel bad for the ones that are part of a family like this but …

  • JGo555

    Look girl, unless you leave them (since you are legal here) and get yourself a job & see if maybe you can get hooked up with DV shelter, YOU WILL MARRY SOME OLD DUDE YOU’VE NEVER MET/LIKED, you WILL BE BEATEN by them since your ass WILL go back to Iraq and you might even DIE because you came back for “shaming” the family.

    RUN! RUN LIKE YOUR LIFE DOES DEPEND ON IT!

  • JGo555

    They fail to see that the economical benefit brought on by moving to the “free” countries have to do with the religiousness politics these countries have achieved.

    Of course we have a better system when it comes to dealing with things! It’s because even though God tells you to stop working at 6pm on Friday, people STILL work AFTER 6pm on Fridays and all throughout Saturday until Sunday.  I know we’re not talking about Jews, but it’s an example.

    Being Dominican, I still remember living in DR & having that “siesta” time that would go from 1-3pm. I remember all the stores would close and people would be actually having an official nap. Shit doesn’t exactly go down like that anymore since they need the economical revenue that leaving stores open at that time would bring.

    My dad grew up (he’s 50′s) in that Nap time and now that he’s turning old, he’s actually doing it. He has lunch at 12pm & then has a nap until 2pm… but if you’re Dominican you know that old people from there think that DR is the place to go back to for retirement & that they know what they’re doing there and ONLY there. It’s a Dominican thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lara.robertson76 Lara Robertson

    if you come to this country for a better life and freedom, leave your shitty ass customs in the repressed fucked up country you are leaving!!! 

  • JGo555

    If I wanted to harrass your sexy ass, I’d totally fap to this statement:

    “Ignorance is a disease which can be cured, but which should be contained to prevent spreading.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/lara.robertson76 Lara Robertson

    just ridiculous. i cant imagine any religion that condones torture and brutality. you come to this country, cultural beliefs or not you follow our laws ! 

  • http://truecrimereport.com iLLusionS

    I understand, and also do not expect that one change their moral fabric, and make-up just because they move here. And am not really expecting a “when in Rome”, approach to religious beliefs, and such….BUT, here when a child is 18, you damn sure can’t beat them anymore, especially because someone talked to them, and you are trying to pimp them out to an old dude in a pre arranged marriage. Where laws fuzzy the lines of their concept of parenting, she is protected, but will not seek such protection probably.

  • malq

    This is all justified by the Koran.
    There have been several honor killings lately of children and women in the Muslim communities is the US and Canada.  The concept of “honor” is notoriously difficult to define. At its most basic level, it refers to a person’s righteousness in the eyes of their community. It is often employed to ensure that people act morally. In this respect, if people follow what is considered socially good, they are honored. If not, they are shamed. 
    Tthis is completely driven by their beloved Koran. The oddity of twisting it into violence against women and children is as mysterious to me.  Almost as mysterious as,  (opens can of worms) the act of sending children on suicide missions in the name of Allah when suicide is forbidden in Islam. 

    I have read the Koran and found it to be mostly boring and repetitive.  There are exciting parts, like It is every muslims duty to kill us infidels by hand, by fist or by sword.  or my favorite, muslims are commanded to befriend the infidel until it is time to turn on them and behead them. Muslims are so fucking afraid of Allah burning them for eternity,  they will perform their duties as Muslims at all costs and take the Koran seriously.. 

    I can’t wait for the army of men in white, on black horses to come down the hill to slay me and all the other infidels. That will be exhilarating.

  • JGo555

    So that would make all Muslim men paedophiles by default?

    Because I am sorry but if my heaven promised me 72 hot Brad Pitts, Tay Diggs, Tyson Beckford, Zac Hansons &  28 young Willow Smith (Will Smith’s daughter); I would painfully pass because I have no desire to “do” any women whatsoever (ok, with the exception of Jessica Alba, Paget Brewster and maybe @CountRackula:disqus ) let alone a little girl that still has dolls in her bedroom.

    Hell I HAVE DOLLS! I will kill anyone that touches my Spice Girls dolls! THEY ARE A COLLECTORS ITEMS! I also have Millenium Barbie/graduation fro 2000. You know some old fool’s gonna be paying money for those things and I have never opened them.

    I plan on retiring with those things.  :)

  • JGo555

    Not all of them might be shitty, but if they left for a better life and found a place that fits into what they think it’s a better life then they should surely not practice the customs that DO NOT FIT/ARE UNDERSTOOD in that place.

    Honoring your parents is a good custom up to a certain point. How many teenagers these days don’t respect their parents & are just monsters? Too many. That part isn’t bad.

    The part where it becomes marry whoever the fuck your dad/mom thinks will give them what they want without you participating in the decision is completely shitty. Going on a date with the person they might want you to marry would be ok (that’s honoring). If it doesn’t work out, they should NOT force you to marry this person (that is where the line should be drawn).

  • reapre

    Are there even 72 legal (aged) virgins, that aren’t hideous or a nun, that are even left? What virgin pool are they dipping into I wonder?

    Cuz shit, it ain’t here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Feel free you know I love you Hun.

  • blubberdong

    Sweet, ‘cuz when I die I’m gonna get 72 video cameras so I can get you and Jessica Alba and Count Rack from every angle.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “married black people”

    Well fuck them then – let me tell you who the only people are that I do not like in this world – its a relatively short list – criminals,and anyone that does not like me.

  • sugarpie

    And you will certainly be “in heaven”

  • JohnQknowitall

    The 28 young boys are to tide them over until they figure that one out.

  • sugarpie

    I guess they would be the reconstructed ones. ??

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    HA !!!

    I truly enjoyed your posting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Well said.

  • sugarpie

    Oh, well maybe it’s not the 72 virgins they’re excited about after all. . . 

  • cynhunter

    I agree with the person above that said you come to this country for a better life. Unfortunately that means you must embrace leave your unorthodox ways behind you. Why does everything need to be about violence with those types of people? Coming to a peaceful resolution is so much easier. Hopefully her time away from them will build up some independence and bring her to the recognition that she does not have to live like that, she can be her own person   

  • reapre

    I don’t understand their reasoning, or even their specific attractions to these “virgin girls”.

    I’ve been with 2 virgins,…and in all honesty, I’d rather not ever have another virgin.  Not my cup of tea, at all. 

    I don’t get this “Man get 72 virgins (eww), woman get kitchen duty”…wtf?  (some of you) Women, don’t contest this? 

    Where’s the 72 mandingo dicks in heaven for you women?  If I was ya’ll I’d definitely be using pussy as a weapon on this bullshit. 

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Count Rackula

    Oh, come on. You know you don’t have to wait to do that shit til you die. Not with me, anyway. ;-)

  • malq

     I just got all homophobic.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    A lot of people get uncomfortable with interracial relationships, not just Muslims. If you walk down the street with a white woman see how many ugly looks you get from people, especially from white men and black women.

    The groups that I don’t like are molesters, abusers (child, spouse, mental, physical, etc.), pedophiles, hebephiles, close minded people, pompous schmucks, people who abuse old people…those kinds of things.

    Don’t really have issues with criminals on the whole, it depends on the crime for me.

  • sugarpie

    Well believe it or not, but I was a virgin once and my first time was not all that great either.  It hurt like hell and it just wasn’t a warm and fuzzy experience.  So, yeah, I don’t get it either. 

    I’ll pass on the 72 mandingo dicks.  I guess when I think about heaven, I never even pictured that there would be sex.  hmmmm. 

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    You speak the ugly truth honey. I used to go out with a black male friend and his cousins to Miami every so often and the looks I would get from ladies of color and white guys made me just want to wear a t-shirt that said “we are not dating, have at”.

  • LeaveMeBe

    I’m surrounded by dicks in this life, why would I want to be surrounded by them in paradise after I die? :P

  • LeaveMeBe

    I like the word infidel. It has such a ring to it. INFIDEL! I keep picturing that guy, Jeff Dunham I think, with his puppet Achmed.

  • reapre

    Everyone’s a virgin at some point.  Unless of course, you know, you’re one of those slutty little infant girls that blackmails some old guy into sleeping with her…which isn’t exactly uncommon anymore.   =P

  • reapre

    You know, I didn’t think of that LMB.  What WOULD women want in place of their 72 Mandingo Dicks?

  • minjofu

    Sometimes all you can do is shut up, point, and nod..   I’ll spare everyone a speech as my soapbox is in the shop.. 

  • JohnQknowitall

    Please don’t blame the rest of us for those who are backward and homophobic and living in denial.

    BTW Pedophiliac does not equal Homosexual. (just had to ad that)

  • blubberdong

    Fap. 

    Oops.  I just did a jerka on your burka.  Sorry.

  • malq

     I read that three times, I don’t get it. All I can guess is you are waving your gay flag again.

  • LeaveMeBe

    That picture of the mom just makes me want to bitch-slap her over and over and over. *smack* Boo-hoo bitch. *smack* Shutthefuckup you abusive cow. *smack* So you can dish it our but can’t take it? *smack*

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    What many do around my area is just have anal sex until they get married.

  • JohnQknowitall

    I don’t have a flag.

  • Sorrow_discord

    Let me get this straight. The older daughter brings shame by speaking with a boy but the younger the daughter is allowed to wear a Justin Bieber shirt?

  • JohnQknowitall

    I think when you are tell someone who is alive that he will get 72 virgins when he dies and he believes this, then making up more lies that he will believe after life ends is not a big hurdle.

  • JohnQknowitall

    BTW the person in the red bathrobe: is that the mother or the father?

  • Babydoll0630

    KEEP digging HOLMES!!!  

  • Babydoll0630

    I know that mom has GOT to rule with an iron fist…….My hubby would never let me pain our house with pink.  I think she may have his balls in her pocket…….

  • reapre

    “jerka on your burka.”

    LOL

  • Babydoll0630

    Yes, the black women get REALLY MAD.  IDK why it frickin matters these days.  My sister didn’t marry a guy b/c of his sisters………wtf?!

  • kimbev69

    If they take hrr back she is dead! Read “Princess” and “princess sultanas daughters” what an eyeopener reading about a 12 yr old gang rape victim being stoned the day after giving birth after she got pregnant being raped by her brothers friends which he denied happened, then the teenage girl tied to a chair and drowned in the family pool, oh and i cant ever forget thecaliforniA cOllege student whose liberal parents died, she was coaxed home and married to a beduoin in the desert and when she ran off she was bricked up in a womans room an opening big enough for food and a bucket to pass thru, saddest stuff

  • Babydoll0630

    Kinda like all the Jesus stuff………Derp.  You quote often, and scare me with your pic……It’s SUPPOSED to be angelic………YOU, HOWEVER ARE NOT.  I don’t even like commenting on a page you have…You don’t know it all…..UR HEART IS BLACK.

  • LeaveMeBe

    I can’t speak for all women, and I think what I want is fluid and changes moment to moment. For example, right now I want silence. But since I am in hell, not paradise, I know I won’t get my way.

    So, hey gals, what would we want in paradise in place of 72 dicks?

  • Babydoll0630

    My son is awake and is not of school-age…….be back in eight hours…….nvm I’m married……BBL.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    Of course, because hymen = virginity. sigh

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    Purses, shoes, chocolate, and spa days. 

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    You totally should, you guys have all the colors in yours. ;)

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    You don’t think her husband does that very thing to her? 

  • Babydoll0630

    WHEN IN ROME…………

  • Shauna Olsen

    I did a paper on honor killings, dowery killings, beatings, beheadings and so forth. This girl is as good as dead. Even if she agrees to the family advocacy the family can always inlist the help of other family memebers not known to the police. The lengths they will go to get the girl to comply or suffer the consequences are very violent. Was there not a girl that was actually ran down by her own father not so long ago in Arizona for the same reasons? Does this not scare the girl in the least? So sad.
     

  • Babydoll0630

    Ya, just as effed up as the “BIBLE”……….I do what I want when I want………..EFF your  “Bible talk”. 

  • Babydoll0630

    You, are right.  I don’t see ur posts much, but I do like them.  

  • Babydoll0630

    In others lives…………….I faceplanted mud.   K ty.  I’m embarassed………….I ate mud……On my ring finger………..and my sunglasses……….

  • Babydoll0630

    Last time I walk that dork to the park……..LOL.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “If you walk down the street with a white woman see how many ugly looks you get from people”

    Just so you know half the women I have dated have not been Black … so I already been there.

    PS Most of the peeps you state that you do not like ARE criminals.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    One “Mandingo Dick” here Sir … but I’m not dead yet … so I’m guessing I don’t count.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “never even pictured that there would be sex”

    THERES NOT ???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Ced looks alluringly at LeaveMeBe – blinks eyes seductively …

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Now-a-days 72 virgin women.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I’m beginning to sense you don’t like John very much … or am I off key on this ?

  • blubberdong

    You’re not supposed to measure it from your butthole to the tip, Ced.  Do over.

  • JohnQknowitall

    You guys? Wow, I should. LOL

    Thanks!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Make sure I get my copy,or I will haunt your ass … and don’t get 72 shitty ass camera’s either – I fucking hate looking at an otherwise good porno,that some dip-shit shot on a cheap ass cam.

  • reapre

    Oooh, bad option.  You see, since the women have the option of 72 mandingo dicks, (and little man syndrome gets a man 72 virgins), you unfortunately my friend, are going to be 1 of the 72 men stuck pleasuring one woman, of course, you’ll have to wait your turn, and for her to finish shopping for shoes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    HA !!! She nailed you there Bub.

  • Pyncky

     I wish we had nap time here. I remember hating it when my parents made me to go bed.  Now, just the opposite.

  • boyzmom33

    and wine…………..don’t forget the wine…………

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Didn’t say that you haven’t been there, I was making a general observation. Also, criminal was a broad term, I know a lot of people who’ve been to jail so that’s why I made the statement that I do. Obviously I’m aware that the groups mentioned are criminals.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Luke 6:37
    John 8:7

    You should know these two passages.

    Would you like me to site more Biblical versage? I can. Can you?

    Here is a good one since Old Testament passages seem to be more in vogue with TODAY’S Christians than New Testament passages. This one actually is a direct and correct translation.

    No one born of a forbidden union (fornication or adultry perhaps) may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord. ~ Deuteronomy 23:2

    Many fail to remember that many of the condemnations of the Old Testament were diminished or voided or simply incorrectly translated or purposeful Christian interpretation by the doctrine of the New Testament.

  • LeaveMeBe

    I so want to be a smart-ass right now but I can’t quit laughing! XD

  • LeaveMeBe

    I’m sure he does, but it would be way more satisfying for me to do it myself than just know it’s happening. I don’t like to live vicariously through someone else, ya know?

    Oh, wait. You mean feel sorry for her because he does it to her. No, you wouldn’t mean that because we both know that we would never accept that excuse from any mother who fails to protect their child or participates in abuse against their child or perpetrates abuse against their child at anothers direction.

    Right? :)

  • LeaveMeBe

    Thanks for the commas. And the comment. ;)

  • LeaveMeBe

    I only forget the wine after I drink it…

  • JGo555

    I assume your friends’ lives are better because of it, even if they don’t have the family to help them.

  • JGo555

    I think Ced likes to spread his Cedricness all around making sure no girl gets left out because she did not taste the Ced’s magic.

  • JGo555

    Heaven is a spa with lots of chocolate, all the cute puppies (or kittens for the catladies here) to pet, lots of food that you don’t have to clean, cook or do chores AND sex with the hottest guy you like for as long as YOU like doing the thing YOU want him to do.

    THAT is motherfucking Heaven for a woman!

    I forgot to add, there’s a buffet with buttery or chocolaty croissants.

  • JGo555

    Heaven is a spa with lots of chocolate, all the cute puppies (or kittens for the catladies here) to pet, lots of food that you don’t have to clean, cook or do chores AND sex with the hottest guy you like for as long as YOU like doing the thing YOU want him to do.

    THAT is motherfucking Heaven for a woman!

    I forgot to add, there’s a buffet with buttery or chocolaty croissants.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    They do have good lives.

  • JGo555

    Go away then! @JohnQknowitall:disqus is quite the fair person & objective. He never insults someone UNLESS they take a stab at him first.

  • JGo555

    If she wears it inside out, she’s dead.

  • GGMon

    Yeah it pisses me off. Fuck, I was hanging out with one of my male friends (Black guy) and I remember this black woman looking at us with the meanest stare.

    Some people need to mind their own business.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    Damn, what did you do to piss her off so much? I’ve re-read your posts and I don’t see anything that deserves that kind of venom. 
    Also the flag thing was a joke, please don’t take it the wrong way. I know you’ve said on here before you’ve had it hard and you know my stance on the cockbites who made it that way.

  • blubberdong

    I’ll have to use what Allah gives me, pal.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    I’m not defending her at all. I’m just saying that she probably already gets beat downs for losing socks and cooking the burgers all wrong. 

  • GGMon

    How is it that this, the bible, and scientology happen to get followers?

    I’m not trying to shit on anyone’s religion or their faith, but I’m very skeptical taking a book for its word.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    HA!

  • GGMon

    I would have hated to grown up like that poor girl did.
    Shit, I read a couple of years ago about how this girl was killed because some guy had dedicated a love ballad to her.

    I hope she does find help, for her sake.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Did you flag me? Why?

  • reapre

    Dude, go to Thailand, the Thai women LOVE “chocolate”.

    3 white guys and a black guy, the black guy gets swarmed by like 10 different thai prostitutes “Oh I love chocolate man!”… sigh*

  • JohnQknowitall

    I think the prostitutes in Thailand say similar things to men of other colors, too. That’s just the one you picked up on.  ;)

  • reapre

    ^^^^(the flag comment earlier…IE “you guys have all the colors in your flag”)

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    White people do it as well. Anytime I’m with a white men I get stared down like I’m garbage. Every race does it.

  • JGo555

    I just realized something:

    The muslim fanatics consider the Western world & their religions to be too sexual and inmoral. 

    I’m sorry but when I die, I get to be in the precense of my God & feel His love directly from him & SEE Him.

    The muslims basically behave SO THEY CAN GO TO HAVE SEX IN PARADISE and basically CORRUPT virgin & innocents???

    What. In. The. Fuck.

    I’ll keep my God, you keep yours. I’ll go to see Him & let them go fuck a Justin Bieber & some  Jonas Brothers in their Heaven.

  • JohnQknowitall

    A statistic was just released that reported the largest number of White/Black marriages; 3.3% of all of that states marriages were white/black ( 3.5% white/Hispanic, 2.5% white/Asian). This is ironic since there was a constitutional battle regarding a marriage between a black man and a white woman (Loving v. Virginia, 1967) which landed in the Supreme Court and resulted in decriminalizing marriages between persons of different races throughout the United States.

    Paraphrasing MLK: We cannot make them love us, but we can legislate that they cannot hurt us.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Most Muslims, like most Christians (Jews, Buddhists, Pagons, Agnostics, Atheists, etcetera) are pretty decent people as people go. They do not spend most of their days hating, blowing people up, etcetera.

    Crazy people of all beliefs impose on others and this is a, as I assume you will agree, cause the pain and destruction in the name of religion. Are there many paths to one god or are there many gods? I am not smart enough to know.

    As far as I am concerned that here in the US you can go worship what you want when you want, but you cannot beat a person into submission… you can only scar them emotionally.

    Peace be with you.

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    No, I meant my earlier comment. I don’t report people. 

  • Lena60

    I just saw that documentary John, it upset me of course.

  • Lena60

    Is this  in morse code?

  • reapre

    “I’m not trying to shit on anyone’s religion or their faith, but I’m very skeptical taking a book for its word.”

    Did you believe your history books?  How about your math books? Science books? English books?  Did you believe the Autobiography of Hellen Keller, or Anne Frank?  Or the dozens of books written on the Holocaust?  Or are you just skeptical when it comes to books about religious faiths, or things unproveable by any of the physical senses?  What about atomic theories? etc…(Sorry, lots of books, you left yourself open there.)

    I’m personally athiest, I don’t necessarily believe that a God could, or would, exist.  I don’t believe in Hell, or Heaven.  There are occasional things about the different religious sects, which I as a human agree with that are contained in the individual book/bible/qu’ran etc..  I’m thinking your looking for an answer similar to “Ernest Becker” in his book “The Denial of Death”.

    I recommend as reading for you then, if you want to understand his take of “duality of purpose”, maybe it’ll be enlightening for your own personal belief system?  If not, hey, knowledge is knowledge, right?

  • DangerousKindOfSnark

    Ask Cedric, apparently he understood it.

  • JohnQknowitall

    She is speaking in tongues.

  • Wildheart

    That reminds me….

  • Eliza Berntsen

    Hang on a minute, did I read that right- the husbands get to have sex with 72 virgins and 28 young boys? So you can’t be gay and if you are you deserve to be stoned to death or be forced to have a sex change just so that you wouldn’t be living in sin, but it’s ok once you’re dead? The fuck kinda logic is that?!

  • Eliza Berntsen

    I take it you are not familiar with Hieronimus Bosch’s paintings?

  • JohnQknowitall

    It is the kind that a silly woman, much less an infidel woman, can’t understand. Get home and do your duties or I will call your husband!

  • AnthonyMandich

    This has all the earmarks of a tragedy in the making.  These fucking people are insane.  If they want to practice Sharia law then they need to get the fuck back to Iraq where it seems to be welcomed.  Nobody is down to see young girls beaten up or shot by their ignorant, mysoginistic,  asshole fathers on the suburban streets of  Anaheim or Houston.  Americans tend to frown upon cheating spouses getting buried up to their waists after being wrapped in white linen and then stoned until they slump over dead.  Honor killings and honor beatings?  Their is no honor to this shit.  Its fucking pathetic and I have nothing but disdain for these parents and if I’m honest, for all Muslims.  I strongly dislike the whole culture and religion.  Yuck.

  • AnthonyMandich

    Sorry if I sound prejudiced….they just give me the ultimate creeps.  Goosebumps etc.  

  • Eliza Berntsen

    Oh please do, but you might experience a difficulty reaching him as he’s slightly dead. But still, good luck ;)

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    Sorry, lady, women and children have basic human rights in this country.  If you don’t like it, you can leave.

    In fact, I think this whole family (aside from the victim, of course) should be jailed, and then deported at the end of their sentences.

  • JGo555

    I never said that Muslims were evil nor that they blow up people. I was telling my husband, about 2 nights ago that I gotta get me an Indian friend (don’t care what religion they are) cause maybe they’ll show me their food & maybe I’ll like it more than the Naan bread & butter chicken.

    In my opinion most religions that worship one god are all the same and it’s the same god.

    But god made us all different (I did that on purpose since I’m talking about the Muslim one just like the Jewish one, so I’m not capitalizing those) which mean that a Jew won’t fit in the mold of the buddist religion mold & a Catholic can’t fit in the Scientologist mold. The god made different religions to fit the different people of Earth.

    We will all end up in the same place, there’s just different parts of the heaven for all of us. I will just as well stay away from the Justin Biebers up there and the Willow Smiths if I ever get to the Muslim heaven.

    Wait, I’m catholic. FUck, I’m going to hell.

  • TheAlphaSoup

    I read that book, and I was so effing depressed after. Hope the parents are charged, and that they won’t go back to Iraq, where things like this (or worse) certainly will be condoned.

  • GGMon

    I meant the bible, koran, etc.
    Ever since I had a professor who told me to never take anything for face value and do research, I have a hard time taking anything that isn’t fiction for face value these days.

  • neenaP

    they will definitely kill her when they get the chance

  • reapre

    ” I have a hard time taking anything that isn’t fiction for face value these days.”

    Excuse my Devils advocacy, but wheres the proof that it isn’t at LEAST partially non-fiction?

  • JohnQknowitall

    Watch this movie: “The Stoning of Soraya M.” (2008)

  • sherrdbw

    If the daughter goes back to Irag with her family, she’s a dead woman.

  • sherrdbw

    “to live this life”.

    She won’t be living any life, her “honorable” family will kill her for embarrassing them.

  • JohnQknowitall

    I read that in a paper. Do you have the name of the documentary?

  • Sam

    Well, to be fair, his paintings look more like an acid trip than prophecy… :)

  • kimbev69

    Disturbing that these things are not even outraged by our government it is just odd

  • xJustagirlx

    I hope you’re wrong, but I wouldn’t be surprised to later find out that is the case. Evidently, her father cut her throat & threatened to kill her just before they tied her up with rope, duct taped her mouth shut & beat her. 

    http://www.kpho.com/story/16952271/document-shows-father-threatened-life-of-iraqi-daughter 

  • Lena60

    It is called, The Loving Story.

  • katy harris

    Sadly this is very common (especially in the middle east). In all honesty, the beaten-daughter probably got off much easier because they’ve immigrated to the states. If she’d still been in Iraq she probably would have been killed. 
    Like someone before said, dishonoring your family is a HUGE deal in Muslim culture.  The girls/women are the key to the family’s honor and doing anything to tarnish that is punishable by death. I believe in Iran most women can’t even look a man in the eye because that is un-modest. 
    Women really get the shit end of the stick.

  • TheAlphaSoup

    Did. :(

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I will be watching it tonight. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • JohnQknowitall

    Definitely not for the faint of heart.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I will add that to my list. Thanks Lena. :)

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Watched it last night. The stoning scene was so painful. I just can’t imagine have that much hatred for someone to do what that husband did to her.

  • JohnQknowitall

    You give the character of the husband too much credit. He didn’t hate her – even worse: he had no regard for her as a human being. She cooks, she bares sons, she submits to his smelly body as he wishes, and she is a fairly worthless and definitely replaceable piece of property. He teaches his very young sons that women, even their mother, have no worth… none whatsoever. 

  • hicusdicus

     Allah is great!  May Jesus have mercy. How many American men died in Iraq to free these animals from Saddam? What a waste.

  • hicusdicus

     How can you call it prejudice if it is the truth?

  • hicusdicus

     I think Cedric likes girls to talk to him with their tongues.

  • hicusdicus

     Remember this is the religion of peace. Or is it pieces?

  • hicusdicus

     I think they should go back to Iraq and become suicide bombers.

  • hicusdicus

     Its the Muslim way of divorcing without having to pay alimony .

  • hicusdicus

     We saved these people from Saddam.  WHY??????

  • hicusdicus

     If the what ever, in the offal office does not repeal the second amendment it will be kick ass. I am ready along with 90 million other Americans gun owners.

  • hicusdicus

     Go ahead and shit. I will squat next to you.

  • hicusdicus

     Try reading the Believing Brain. It explains the idiocy of peoples beliefs.

  • hicusdicus

    The only thing you know for sure is that you are going to die. Everything else is mostly bullshit.

  • hicusdicus

    Achmed, that is what that girl will soon look like.

  • hicusdicus

     We are catching up!

  • hicusdicus

    Hey! At least she will not have to do it with him. That makes it a real paradise for her.

  • hicusdicus

     It is called religious logic.

  • hicusdicus

     I bet you smoke a lot of pot and day dream. That’s OK, so do I. What else is there to do till the funeral.

  • hicusdicus

     Cedric, you think National Geographic is good porno.

  • hicusdicus

     The world ran out of virgins before I was born.

  • hicusdicus

     You may be heading for disappointment.

  • hicusdicus

     Catholic!!!!!!!   All is lost,  join me in hell and we can get stoned together and Diss the Pope. Don’t worry he will be there also.

  • hicusdicus

     I think that why it is called Bi Bull. It has always been amazing to me that so called intelligent humans can believe any of it. But humans are not really all that intelligent. The stars of dreamin demon proves that.

  • hicusdicus

    Its in the same ball park.  Lust over rides all.

  • hicusdicus

     What they are going to get are 72 virgin camels. But those will have to come from another planet there are none left in the middle east.

  • hicusdicus

     Cedric, I though you said you did not smoke pot. You must have some really good shit.

  • hicusdicus

     Cedric measurement starts at the back of his neck. I am sure he uses a metric ruler because it has more numbers.

  • hicusdicus

     And hands her a magnifying glass.

  • hicusdicus

     I think heaven should be full of big guns with plenty of ammo all in range of the virgin fuckers.

  • hicusdicus

     How about a billion pounds of chocolate covered cherries.

  • hicusdicus

     They could be one in the same. I at one time in my life took 9 hits of acid in less than one hour. It took over two weeks for it to clear up. Come to think of it maybe it has not cleared up yet. A good acid trip is better than going to work.

  • hicusdicus

     I wonder if Jesus has gotten fat?

  • hicusdicus

     Blackmail me, Please!!!!!

  • hicusdicus

     My list is shorter than Cedrics. I don’t like anybody except my wife and I only put up with her cause she feeds me.

  • malq

    Assuming you are talking about the bible or the Koran…You don’t get to ask that in an argument where the only tangible evidence is  a book.  This book cannot be proven wrong any more than it can be proven right. It is an absolute, a book.

  • kimbev69

    Exactly

  • hicusdicus

     We also make gods to explain it the way we wanted it explained. A different explanation a different god.

  • Cinnagirl76

    Hmmm…strange that they allow the sister to wear a Justin Beiber t-shirt.

    I live close to Dearborn, MI which has the largest population of arabic people in the US. I grew up having a lot of arabic friends. One girl’s brothers took her in the woods at night and dug a grave for her telling her if she spoke to a boy again that’s where she would go. She’s “happily” married to her 20 years older cousin now. And by “happily”, I mean brainwashed.

    Another friend from HS was forced to marry her 36 yr old 1st cousin when she was 16. She put up a fight at first, but they just took her back to her home country and kept her there til she gave in, then she and her husband moved to another state for about 10 years to keep her away from people she knew in MI. She called me a couple times, secretly, and I felt so bad for her. She’s back now, but brainwashed as well.
     
    I agree with whoever said they should just stay in their own country and not come here. Oh, and it’s perfectly okay if boys in the family marry white girls, apparently. I have seen lots of that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/WildlifeSeriaLKiller Darrell FIne

     She’s 19. She doesn’t have to. What I find AMAZING is that these people will beat their kids in the name of “honor”, but they worship a supposed “prophet” who had sex with a nine year old girl while he was in his 50′s. hmmm….

  • JohnQknowitall

    But she will return to the “old country” with them. I don’t think they worship Mohammad, but they do revere him in such a way as to be disturbing.

    The burning of the Quran and the multiple deaths in Afghanistan related to that event do show how cheap other people’s lives are to many Muslims. Quality of life seems to not be important to this same group of Muslims.

    I honestly cannot figure out where people who claim Islam is a peaceful religion have factual basis for the assertion.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/ Dakota Valkyrie

    A judge handed down probation sentences this week to three members of an Iraqi refugee family who beat a teenage relative for talking with a man.

    Yusra Farhan, 51, her husband, Mohammed Altameemi, 46, and the couple’s daughter, Tabarak Altameemi, 18, each received two years’ supervised probation.

    All three must adhere to domestic violence terms such as counseling.

    The three pleaded guilty in October in return for lesser charges. Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Joseph Kreamer accepted the trio’s pleas after a probation officer interviewed everyone involved and gave a recommendation.

    Mohammed Altameemi pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct.

    Farhan pleaded guilty to unlawful imprisonment and domestic violence.

    Tabarak Altameemi pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault.

    http://triblive.com/usworld/nation/2915739-74/altameemi-guilty-pleaded-probation-charges-domestic-family-farhan-judge-mohammed#axzz2CFcG1tIW

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Dean-Luke/1245322900 William Dean Luke

    “Land of the free” Doesn’t give you the right to use archaic, out-lawed-in-this-country “honor-beatings” to get your way.

    I hope they learned a valuable lesson about the difference between the United States and fucking Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan.

    Keep those backwood, centuries old “Sharia Law” morals where they came from. They don’t belong here.