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Chicago, IL — Yesterday we posted about the teenagers who filmed themselves beating the snot out of a 17-year-old boy in a Chicago alley then posting the video on Youtube. Today police announced they have arrested the seven teenagers.

According to police spokesman Mike Sullivan, all of the teens were charged with one count each of robbery and aggravated battery. One of the teens, 17-year-old Raymond Palomino, was charged as an adult while the rest — a 15-year-old girl (!), two 16-year-old boys and three 15-year-old boys — were cited in juvenile delinquency petitions.

The video, which you can watch below, went viral after it was posted on Youtube by someone who may want to watch their back as it was instrumental in helping police identify the assailants who can be seen relentlessly pummeling the 17-year-old boy for over 3 minutes. The video shows them kicking, stomping, punching and choking the boy before robbing him of his gym shoes, wallet and money.

The victim didn’t suffer any major injuries and was treated at the hospital for a busted lip, bruises and some facial abrasions. At first there were no reports on motive, but now it seems like this may be a bit of tit-for-tat. Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy told CBS Chicago that the attack may be retaliation for an earlier incident where the victim was possibly one of 20 teens who jumped on two others last fall.

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  • guillotinegirl

    I’m lucky cell phone cameras weren’t around when I was growing up; I’d most likely be posting from jail if that were the case.

  • Anonymous

    This is an interesting case in that the first time I saw the video it was disgust and outrage but if this tit for tat is true I don’t feel nearly as bad. If you were told that guy was a child molester this video would be viewed in a very different light.

  • Anonymous

    This is really something else, white boys calling an asian boy “nigga” as though it were a curse word like bitch or motherfucker, I dont find the beating funny but do find their talking hilarious, been watching too many movies and this is what is considered to be cool? If so, then I fear for the future…

  • Anonymous

    It was actually a bunch of Asian kids beating him up but I completely get your point.

  • they beat him and call him nigger multiple times. WHY is THIS not a HATE CRIME?

  • the tit for tat is bullshit and you are being passified by it you idiot.

  • How do you know it is bullshit?

  • A hate crime does not consist of you calling someone a racial epitaph while beating them. A hate crime is beating someone purely because of their race. Besides, they were obviously using the n-word as slang as the kid is most definitely not black.

  • shannie

    How do you see this as a hate crime? Because of the N-word?  I think these kids are using the word “nigga” like it’s hardcore to say it while kicking and beating someone…it’s lame as all hell, but I don’t see it as them using the word in the true sense of what that word means. The word is used by dumb kids all over this country, and other countries as slang, and it sucks.

  • Anonymous

    I hope they get JUMPED for using the N word and get killed by some really angry asians.

  • shannie

    Interesting about the the dad, and the little bit he said about never marrying Palominos mom who he hasn’t seen since ’96 and “has a lengthy rap sheet”….

  • Anonymous

    Sorry for the threadjack, but holy fuck, shannie.  That is a nasty ass avatar.  OMG.  I stared at it for a full minute before I finally figured out what it was.  Now it’s burned into my brain.  That’s just mean.

    Also, I think Eddy forgot to put *eyeroll* at the end of his post. I think he was intending to be ironic and snide. I think he might have an issue with minorities and with not being a fucktard.

  • shannie

    lol, yeah they were really tossing around that word…but all the kids were Asian except Palomino and one of the 5 juveniles.

  • shannie

    Better? Sorry for the brain burning 🙁

    Yeah I think so too, I re-read his post, and what you said sounds about right…

  • shannie

    Oh, and I was really asking how Mr. Richtofen saw this as a hate crime. I wasn’t being a dick, I often wonder how others view a hate crime one way, someone else another, and laws or the prosecutors way of deeming a crime “hateful” depending on the place and how the crime was played out…:)

  • Anonymous

    Oh, you didn’t have to change it! I was actually kind of impressed. It was just a soft abstract for me, at first. Once you see something, you can’t unsee it, as they say. 😀 Looking at my post, I realize that I thought I was being funny, but came off as irritated. I should have indicated the lulzitude more clearly!

    For me, panniculi are something I with which I have an unhealthy repulsion/obsession thing going on hence my horror. I’ve seen too many images of the removal process for my own sanity’s sake.

  • To the IDIOT who said the kids beating the Asian boy .. those boys where WHITE. they mocked him for his ACCENT they mocked him for “speaking Chinese” This was  HATE crime. They did this because of HIS RACE.

  • Sue

    To the IDIOT who said the kids beating the Asian boy .. those boys where WHITE. they mocked him for his ACCENT they mocked him for “speaking Chinese” This was  HATE crime. They did this because of HIS RACE.

  • JustBrowsingLife

    A distinction without a difference? Use of an epithet of that nature takes on a different meaning/penalty depending on which race the idiot using the incredibly volatile language belongs. Everyone knows this yet some keep the race war fires burning by using it and then pretending they don’t know why they get their asses kicked, butts thrown in jail or killed. Keep it simple….. IT’S NOT OK IN ANY CONTEXT BY ANY RACE.

  • Sue

    Oringially posted uner wrong account and now can’t delete that comment.

  • JustBrowsingLife

    Have you met our legislative members? Our cops? Or our prosecution teams?

    The laws are left to interpretation regarding hate crime distinction.

    Humans deciding what other humans mean.

  • shannie

    “Raymond Palomino was charged as an adult. Hearings
    for the other six — including the 15-year-old girl, two 16-year-old boys
    and three 15-year-old boys — were postponed in Juvenile Court as
    officials sought a Cantonese translator. Five of the six are Chinese,
    officials said. Their names were not released.

    Each was charged with robbery and aggravated battery, both felonies, officials said.”

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/10081824-418/dad-of-teen-held-on-bail-in-videotaped-beating-what-he-did-was-wrong.html

  • Sue

    hate crimes an be committed by people of the same race. You heard of Hitler? His mother was a Jew. Anyways, I point again to the fact they WERE MOCKING HIM BECAUSE OF HIM SPEAKING CHINESE!

  • Sue

    That link is not valid. Nice try. I looked all over the internet and did not fine a single LEGITIMATE source saying any of the attackers were Asian. Only discussion forums with no proof. Again, I say OBVIOUS hate crime. These kids are all English speaking WHITE kids.
    Dark grey sweater: OBVIOUSLY WHITE
    Light grey sweater and black mask: WHITE SKIN and OBVIOUS Caucasian eyes
    Dark Blue hoodie and white mask HAS THE WHITEST SKIN I HAVE SEEN AND ROUND EYES.
    Bright blue sweater ROUND EYES WHITE SKIN
    Black Coat ROUND EYES WHITE SKIN
    They say there were seven involved in the attack AT LEAST FIVE WERE WHITE AND ALL SPOKE ENGLISH. Granted their vocabulary and elocution lacked as much as their morals and good judgement do. But nonetheless it is obvious everyone there spoke English as a first language except the victim. again HATE CRIME!

  • Anonymous

    That link is fine, and I am sure the Chicago Sun Times will be sorry to hear they are not a legitimate source…….

  • No they didn’t. Quit being hysterical.

  • The link is valid. Calm down. Take a breath.

  • No one said it was ok. It just wasn’t a hate crime.

  • shannie

    You need to take it down a notch. You didn’t even look at the link. I didn’t just make that shit up…

  • shannie

    Really no shit? Give me a link, a valid one, about these so called hate crimes. Hitler? Who’s Hitler? And Jews?  You know it all, so explain.  I need valid links for all of them.

  • Shitty little bastards! I hope someone kicks their ass!

  • LeaveMeBe

    I can call you whatever names I want to while I’m kicking your ass whether they have to do with your ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation and not be charged with a hate crime as long as I am not beating your ass because you are any of those things.

  • LeaveMeBe

    Which idiot? There are a few of us. 😛

  • CT

    Panniculus.   Fun stuff. 

    There is a great show on the now defunct Discovery Health channel that was about a group of folks in a clinic for the morbidly obese. They had to change the rules while they were taping because the folks there were sneaking in so much takeout they were gaining instead of losing.

  • Anonymous

    Calm down sir no need to start calling people names. If this was truly a retaliation for an attack where 20 people are beating on two then I don’t feel as bad for the kid. Like I said, if I told you that was a child molester from any one of the stories we see here everyday you would be praising this video and saying good job to those people for their vigilante justice. 

  • … he was not a child molester – lets not compare a pebble to the moon.

  • Anonymous

    You’re completely missing my point on this. All I am saying is reaction to videos like this can change drastically depending on perception.

  • I agree Ed needs to relax a little,however there is no good justification for what these kids did. The group that beat up on the 2 people in the past needs to be locked up as well.I hate walking around with all these wild,untrained animals running loose.

  • “Asian kids” – says who ?
    They look White to me.The victim looks Asian.

  • Because they are using the word as a general – not as a specific – these kids most likely call each other “Niggar” as well.

  • Well just to play Devils advocate Morbid – the kid may not look Black,but he could very well be Black – my boys don’t look all that Black either.

    pss – I know he’s really not Black.

  • Anonymous

    Looks can be deceiving.

    Raymond Palomino was charged as an adult. Hearings for the other six — including the 15-year-old girl, two 16-year-old boys and three 15-year-old boys — were postponed in Juvenile Court as officials sought a Cantonese translator. Five of the six are Chinese, officials said. Their names were not released.

    source:http://www.suntimes.com/news/10081824-418/dad-of-teen-held-on-bail-in-videotaped-beating-what-he-did-was-wrong.html

  • I like your comment. I like it a lot.

  • I been wondering what’s with his avatar ? I may be mistaken,but it looks like a pic of a German Nazi.

  • Word not found : Panniculus

  • CT

    Panniculus is a medical term describing a dense layer of fatty tissue growth, consisting of subcutaneous fat in the lower abdominal area.[1]

  • “Looks can be deceiving” – That was my point to you – on the video they look White – to me – they are lighter looking than the victim,but they were definitely NOT Black.

  • Anonymous

    You know what though Ced? I think Lil’ John said it best, “Don’t start no shit, it won’t be no shit!”. People just need to control their damn cunt turds better.

  • AHH … thank you … I think …

  • Anonymous

    I watched that show. It was so sad. There was one guy who was so fat he couldn’t lay down or he would suffocate from the weight and he was ordering in pizza and shit. 

  • That was interesting Morbid … even more interesting is the fact that Dad did the right thing and turned in his kid;although I suspect that Dad reasoned inside his own head that someone was going to snitch out his son anyway; the boy turning himself in will look better at court.

  • Anonymous

    At this point you should, I bet she’d burst a blood vessel.

  • ““Great question. Don’t know. … This is what kids do today, which is quite frankly ridiculously stupid.””

    LOL. LOL. LOL.

  • I didn’t like what these kids did either … but the way you are writing … you are scaring people.Calm down – everything is under control.

  • Where did you acquire your information ?

  • CT

    It was amazing to me how they could justify in their minds the huge amounts they were ordering in.  Like it was a guilty pleasure.  Their minds work in a completely different way than your average person when they hit that point of no return.  I just don’t think most of them could possibly be still alive at this point.  Scary shit.  I actually felt bad for the administrator when he saw the video and had to crack down.   

  • CT

    OK now that I have gone off the deep end talking about fat – back to the real story here.  KIDS SUCK!!   I’m going to have to make some decisions soon enough with my own toddlers – home schooling or a Flowers in the Attic sort of thing.  Decisions, decisions.

  • “must keep an 8 p.m. curfew and maintain a C grade average, the judge told them.”

    These kids are too STUPID to be expected to maintain a C average.

  • Sue

    I was wrong about the link Last night it wouldn’t load but it did today must have been a glitch. AS for waiting for a Cantonese translator I call bull shit. All those kids (well, except the victim) spoke English well and without an accent. I still think this was a hate crime.

  • Sue

    Like I said last night it said that the article did not exist and today it is working.

  • Sue

    I watched the entire video with out looking away, and may I say those are some accentless English speaking pale Asians.. if they are Asian.

  • Sue

    I don’t understand how I am scaring people. I was merely making an impassioned statement. And yeah, I did get a bit worked up about this incident. Having taken a hatchet (thankfully dull) and crowbar to my head in a hate beating all hate crimes piss me off.

  • Sue
  • No wonder I was fooled! I watched it on mute with my eyes closed!

  • Athena

    Indeed… and, if I were you, I’d leave the job to them. 😉

  • Anonymous

    Kids also use the phrase “you’re so gay” loosely when they are talking to each other. It doesn’t make it a hate crime if they get into a fight and start throwing that phrase around.

  • Anonymous

    I say to the judge, “fuck them up your honor” hit’m hard.

  • Anonymous

    Feed’m and beat’m, 🙂 , shit it worked for my parents with 6 kids.

  • Anonymous

    Gotta feeling the victim will get even lets say in about 10 years when he is a lawyer or a judge and these little fuckers appear before him.

  • Anonymous

    They could be second or third generation and have grown up in America?

  • Anonymous

    My daughters boyfriend is half Korean with red hair and he “don’t speak no accent”, he doesn’t look Asian except for a little in his eyes. He is a great young man and I hope the fucker ask me for my daughters hand. 

  • CT

    I’m also one of six kids.  Learned a lot from my childhood.  First and foremost – don’t have SIX kids, don’t be a drunk and don’t beat your kids.  So far I’m doing pretty good. 

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for saying that, for a minute I thought I was going to have to go purchase a pit bull for protection…

  • Anonymous

    “cunt turds” , God sometimes I just fall head over heels with you princess.You sweet talking like that, cunt turds, gimme two.

    I can see it now in a restaurant ordering,
    Give me a Sirloin steak, medium well, salad with Italian, and two cunt turds, Oh, and bring the cunt turds last, after I eat my meal.

  • Anonymous

    We didn’t get beat per say, but when you fucked up, you got a whipping to last a year or two.
    And I learned the no 6 kid lesson too……

  • Anonymous

    “Black – my boys don’t look all that Black either” You might wanna have a talk with Mrs. Cedric on that. And no, I have never been to Texas,:)

  • Anonymous

    Oh come one you know they do. They constantly call each other nigger and dog, and whatever suburban wannabes are spewing these days. I’d like to drop them in the ghetto so they can hang with the people they so desperately want to be. It would be hilarious to see the moment they saw a real gangster. I wonder if they’d call him there nigger? 

  • Anonymous

    ” I’d most likely be posting from jail if that were the case.”
    Shit me too, I would now just be coming up for parole.

  • Anonymous

    OK wait now I’m confused. Are they Asian or not?

  • Anonymous

    Well they dont sound like Asians according to Sue/Sarah Jane so maybe they are not naturally brilliant students?

  • shannie

    That link is not valid. Nice try.

  • shannie

    lol

  • Anonymous

    Pol Pots Khmer Rue army consisted mostly of teenagers and the butchered over 1.5 million people.

  • Anonymous

    But he was being molested by children. does that count?

  • Sue

    umm Watch it to 2:34 yeah, they mock him for speaking Chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Thats why God created guns.

  • Anonymous

    Why is  calling someone a nigger a hate crime?      Black people call each other that all the time.

  • Anonymous

    But, But, But that is not politically correct. Here on DD we do have standards and politically correct is not one of them.

  • Sue

    Thank you that’s what I’ve been saying!

  • Sue

    off topic, but the Hitler article is actually a good read.

  • Anonymous

    Oh horse shit!  I have had black people call me an old white  mutherfucker. Would that be a hate crime?    They were right!  If it is correct how can it be hate?  Of course I shot them but I did not hate them. It just seemed like the right thing to do.

  • Sue

    It’s Sarah Rose. (accidentally didn’t log out of my Amtgard email) anyways, all you have to do is watch it with the volume up. The guys giving the beat down didn’t have accents.

  • Anonymous

    Whats wrong with looking black? Its better tan being all pink and motled looking.

  • Sue

    Also
    A hate crime is a legal category used to described bias-motivated violence: “assault, injury, and murder
    on the basis of certain personal characteristics: different appearance,
    different color, different nationality, different language, different
    religion.

  • Sue

    They might be of Asian decent but the only one with an accent was the victim.

  • Anonymous

    Because it is an awesome word. You eat your steak medium well? Sorry, it would never work.

  • Anonymous

    Is it just me or does the idea of declaring loudly and passionately that they aren’t Asian because they don’t fit the fifties stereotype of yellow people who say “ching chong” rub you as a bit racist for someone who keeps yelling hate crime?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, you can copy/paste. The article says the beating was a retaliation beating. No hate crime, just some useless dumbshits getting revenge on another useless dumbshit for being a useless dumbshit before them. 

  • Anonymous

    Its all silliness and it has been going on since people learned to talk and fight.

  • Anonymous

    Cedric, It means fat ass.

  • Sue

    A hate crime is a legal category used to described bias-motivated violence: “assault, injury, and murder
    on the basis of certain personal characteristics: different appearance,
    different color, different nationality, different language, different
    religion.

  • Anonymous

    You are missing my point as I was being sarcastic.

    Just because they dont have accents doesn’t mean they aren’t Asian.

    I realise that you very much want this to be a hate crime but given the info that is coming out why dont you wait awhile for confirmation of your theory. 

  • Sue

    I said I do not think they are Asian because they are all PALE with ROUND EYES. If you look at my other posts I conceded that they might be pale Asians who have no accent. And I made no comment about stereo types and the attackers not fitting it. I did say their pale skin, round eyes, and lack of accent led me to primarily believe they were white and not Asian.

  • Sue

    I think if it was a retaiation they would have said something like ” You like being ganged up on” or “are you a big man now that you are alone” or something related instead of what they did.

  • Sue

    If you read my post my main argument for thinking they weren’t Asian was their pale skin and round eyes. The lack of accent was merely the icing.  You say I WANT this to be a hate crime. You are partially right. I want people to acknowledge that them mocking the victim for speaking Chinese and not mentioning anything about any pass transgressions (the comment of “You done fucked up son” can be taken many ways and might just mean he walked down the wrong alley) makes this seem more like a hate crime and the attackers claim of this being payback looks like them trying to lie their way to a shorter sentence. And, no, I did not miss the sarcasm. I just chose to ignore it.

  • shannie

    The kids parents may not speak English and since they are juveniles they have to have their parents with them in court.

  • Sue

    That would make sense. I would buy that before I would buy these accentless kids needing a translator.

  • Anonymous

    Not at all DKOS, the hypocrisy is ringing round and clear here too.

  • shannie

    So what if they didn’t have accents??? Holy shit.

  • Sue

    A person who is a victim of a hate crime can be the same race, gender, sexual orientation, or ethic groups as the perps.

  • Anonymous

    But thats just it, I think you have jumped to your own conclusions about the attackers because you immediately assumed it was a hate crime.

    I have now watched the clip for a third time and I just dont get a clear view of anybody’s round eyes other than the one without the hood who has now been arrested.

  • Anonymous

    Hell we all know Asians get straight A’s, right?

  • Sue

    But you guys say someone can not be racist or commit hate crimes against their own race. Since I am Asian I must not be able to be racists against Asians.. /sarcasm. Any ways why are you guys still on topic about race. I already acknowledged that I read the other article and see that some of the other kids were Asian. My point is Asian or not this was still a hate crime. You ever heard of a self hating Asian? They exist. Probably all races have a self hater.

  • Anonymous

    Dayum.

  • shannie

    How do you know the victim wasn’t “laying on the accent”?

    You’re just being silly about the accents. Something went down between this kid and a group of other kids where there was some incident of violence before.  Of course this is horrible and besides having no real info on what this beating was retaliation for, I think the violence is sickening. The authorities are saying this is’t racially motivated, you think maybe they just might know a bit more than you watching the video on a high volume?? The kids that need translators more than likely need them for their Chinese parents so they can understand the charges being brought against their kids who are Chinese.

  • shannie

    Sue, I know who Hitler is and I know about Jews. You asked a stupid question, and you got a stupid asked in return.

  • Anonymous

    When you watched the video, did their mouths move and their voices did not match like in the Japanese old movies????????? 🙂  or   ~ _ ~    _/

  • Sue

    Holy shit yourself. How many times do I have to say it before you guys stop being idiots and get it.
    1) I primarily thought the attackers were white due to their round eyes, pale skin, and lack of accent.
    2) I then read other articles and admitted I was wrong as the articles said some of the attackers were also Asian.
    3) that does not mean this is not a hate crime.
    and 4) They are many types of Asian. Not just Chinese. There are a few factions of Chinese as well as a few factions of Koreans. There are Japanese, Taiwanese, Filipino, and others.

    So in conclusion, I acknowledge the majority or his attackers were Asian, they might have even been the same race, but I still think it was a hate crime.

  • Sue

    Shanie, you would have to be a total idiot to not know who Hitler is and contrary to what you might think I know what sarcasm was. I was just saying the article I posted I chose for a reason, like I said, It was off topic but a good read. And if you could not tell, I like being a smart ass.

  • Anonymous

    I’m Irish, but I don’t have green eyes, freckles, a drinking problem, nor sound like an Irish Spring commercial. 

  • It depends. If the white kids were suburbanites then no, calling him a nigga wouldn’t go over well. However, if they grew up in the hood as well and obviously were comfortable with the word and blacks then the gangsta would probably do and up nod and say “What up nigga” back with the handshake that comes along it the friendly version of the “What up nigga” greeting. At least that’s how it usually goes in Detroit. When I lived in Chicago I heard every ethnicity use it if they were hood kids.

    These kids were using the “nigga” that clearly meant bitch so they were trying punk him while stomping him.

    I’m so used to hearing it now it doesn’t even bother me anymore, as long as I understand the meaning behind it. Plus, they aren’t addressing me or my children when it’s said so that probably another reason why it doesn’t irritate me. I was called a nigger enough in TX when I was a little girl that the difference between the way things are said are quite obvious.

    This is not a hate crime, they were calling him a bitch so unless female dogs are offended I don’t see why the subject is coming up. **shrug**

    They are clearly punks and need to have their asses locked in jail.

  • Anonymous

    Your Irish ? Oh shit now I know its true love, there was that Irish girl that was on American Idol a couple years ago, man was I in love, love that accent. My family tree goes back to Ireland, my dad and uncle traced the linage to the shore and that’s when they found our family name on every in town…top of the world to you lassie. 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCSVQf6Tx20

  • Sue

    I will say it again so you can get it through your thick skull. I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT SOME OF THE ATTACKERS WERE ASIAN! Also, I think your complete trust and faith in cops is cute. Just like in any profession cops can be idiots, liars, gullible, and just plain wrong. They said a lot of the lynchings in the 40s weren’t racially motivated. I guess cops can never lie or be wrong huh?

  • Sue

    I wish that were true. Then I wouldn’t be barely passing Math.

  • Anonymous

    it’s the training.  you heard perfect english, but in brazil it would sound like flawless portuguese.  damn ninjas…

  • Anonymous

    I think we’ve just gotten proof of that on this thread. Isn’t it nice when people help bust through those stereotypes? 
    She can’t handle much more sarcasm captain, we’re losing containment!

  • Sue

    Also, It is obvious the attackers were very low in intelligence. I doubt they had the patience or foresight to wait a YEAR to retaliate for something.

  • Anonymous

    Do you have some kind of comprehension problem? Not one person has said that a hate crime can’t be committed by a person of the same gender. 
    The other part of the hate crime laws state that the crime must be motivated by discrimination. You can call someone a stupid wop dago while curb stomping them like a narc at a biker really and if you aren’t doing it because they are a gay, white, male, Italian Jew than it isn’t a hate crime.

  • shannie

    So a bunch of self hating Asians and a white kid got together to beat up an Asian with an accent?  I get what you’re saying but for crying out loud, look at the story and read it before you start ranting on and on. The facts are the victim was being retaliated against for some violence in the past and Law Enforcement is saying this is NOT a hate crime. Self haters are just that, you confuse the shit out of me, and you sound like you have a really big anger issue because of you being attacked in a hate motivated crime, I think you’re looking for a race issue.

  • Sue

    I’m sick. I watched it multiple times and paused the screen and did the best frame by frame I could. I already acknowledged some of his attackers were Asian.  get over it.

  • Anonymous

    Damn it do have to make everything so real? 😉 I can’t believe people would spew hate at a little girl, that’s just horrible. 

  • Sue

    It’s your biting wit I can’t handle. Why is it you guys keep the focus on how I USED to think the attackers were all white and chose to ignore my comments that I still think this was a hate crime. By getting on my case about me thinking these guys were Asian you are beating a dead horse. I already acknowledged some of the idiots were Asian. In fact, a majority of them were.

  • Sue

    No. I do not. I just don’t understand how people can think it’s NOT a hate crime when the majority of the crap spewing from those kids mouths are about the victim speaking Chinese and sounding Chinese.

  • shannie

    There is No point in even trying to attempt sarcasm  CapeTown….oy vey. :/

  • Sue

    You you REALLY think a group of kids STUPID enough to not only RECORD the beating but UPLOAD IT ON YOUTUBE actually have the brains and patience to wait a whole YEAR to retaliate? Maybe it’s just be (and by looking at this group it probably is) but idiots like this usually are the type to go after instant gratification.
    It’s like that guy who got beat out here a few months ago. His attackers told him that they were going to beat his ass for being a Sp*c, they told the cops when they were caught that they beat him for being a Sp*c (their words not mine) and the cops said it was a beating over one of them being passed over for a promotion and was not in anyway race related or a hate crime.

  • shannie

    You are merely speculating on what “should” be said when there is a gang beat down and how people “should” sound…how’s this for speculating…Maybe the kid who was making fun or mocking the victims accent was doing so because the victim chose at that time to use his accent? Who  knows?  I know I don’t…

  • Sue

    wow.. seriously? not only did you not understand what I was saying…. but you get on my case for making assumptions and being a hypocrite and yet you do both. I applaud you for skimming what I wrote and making a half ass response using a few of the same words I did.

  • Anonymous

    I am sensing a lot of hostility here Sue, I hope this doesnt turn into a hate crime

  • shannie

    The only one on this thread “being an idiot” is you.  You’ve had to admit jumping the gun on almost every point you’ve brought up. And you can’t see past looking for a reason to make this crime something it very clearly has been said it IS NOT.  If you think posting to people calling them idiots and shit, making false, speculative claims, and then think you’re gonna get anyone to agree with you or give you a straight reply?…you’re in the wrong.

  • Sue

    My Opinion on this:
    I do not think this was gang related. I think that the group singled this guy out because he spoke Chinese as a first language and has a think accent making him an easy target. I do not think this was retaliation for something that happened over a year ago because I think the idiot who attacked him are the type who probably planned that attack the same day if not an hour or less before the attack. I do not think these people have the intelligence to come up with any better lie than it being about “payback” and that is where the cockamamie about payback came from.

  • shannie

    This isn’t the 40’s….

    So the cops, and the DA and Judge are all in cahoots to make this not a hate crime?

  • Anonymous

    Get over it? Never on it, but you were, shouting from your soapbox calling us idiots.

    You mention you are not feeling well and clearly this story has pushed some buttons so lets just leave it at that. 

  • Sue

    I did not assume it was a hate crime until more than half way through when they started ragging on him for speaking Chinese.

  • Sue

    I admitted to being wrong about ONE thing. and I was not the only one to make the assumption. I admitted to being wrong about all the attackers being white. Many people made that assumption since the attackers were speaking English and had very pale skin. And I don’t give a crap if anyone agrees with me. I just am making my opinion known.

  • Sue

    You are right. corruption, racism, and plain old “cops making mistakes” doesn’t happen at all anymore. Nope, not in this new modern and completely just world. And I said I think the cops are wrong. I said nothing about DAs or judges. Again putting words in my mouth by just skimming what I wrote and jumping the gun in order to put me in my place and make me feel small and wrong.

  • **hanging head** I’m sorry for making it real. 🙂

    Cowards always go after easy targets and since I was little what could I do back? Plus I think that they were mad that they were fooled for a while. They didn’t know I was black until they saw my mother. lmao In TX everyone is tanned so I looked like everyone else in the neighborhood.

  • shannie

    READ the article …it was Oct. 2011, when the first incident occurred. That is months, 4 Months……last year being ’11.   Seriously, I can’t post to you anymore, you refuse to learn or read the facts and just keep posting nonsense. Stop with the name calling, dipshit.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he spoke it badly and they took offence?  These are mostly 15 year old kids anything can piss them off.

    But you keep clutching at those straws Sue, I do admire the perseverance despite all odds

  • Sue

    NO, just mostly me being a self hating Asian with all this self loathing and what have you.

  • Sue

    OK let me slightly change what I said I do not think these idiots could wait four months. like I said they seem to me to be the type who are out for instant gratification. Waiting for more than a few days is something beyond these brainiacs.

  • Sue

    And for someone who is calling me a dipshit I find it hilarious you telling me to stop calling you guys names when I haven’t done so for a while now.

  • Sue

    If the victim was really one of the attackers in a 20 against 1 beat down there would have been something about it, even if just in the local news. Don’t you find it strange that the perps are saying this.. and yeah the cops might be saying they telling the truth. But I still think it’s a bunch of bull. I till think these guys beat the crap out of him because he was venerable to attack because of who he was.  I don’t just agree with everything and jump on the band wagon because everyon else is. I look at the evidence and make my own opinion. And my opinion is these guys chose to kick the crap out of this kid and rob him because he obviously has money, His backpack alone is probably around $100, and because of his severe differences, heavy accent and English as a second language, made him an easy target. And the fact he didn’t fight back… just made it easier for them.

  • shannie

    You know why, cause they were calling the kid “nigga”, not “gook”, or “nip” or “slope”, or “ching chong”…they were beating him and calling him nigga like it was from a movie. This wasn’t a hate crime. When the kid made fun of the other kid he was mocking him for even opening his mouth, they weren’t interested in what he had to say, regardless to the question of “What nigga?” that was being asked by these animals…this group of kids wanted to kick his ass because of something other than him being Asian, or having an accent.

  • Anonymous

    Mad that they were fooled for awhile? That is seriously screwed up.

  • Anonymous

    Shaking the bee’s nest?

  • Bright side…it showed me how ugly racism is and I try my hardest to make sure that my children don’t judge people by it. In fact, my son just found out that we were black a few months ago (he’s 5). He thought that we were white this whole time. LMAO. He didn’t take the news so well initially but he’s learned to accept it. 

  • Could you not add the whole group in that please? Thank you in advance. For the ones who do they say “nigga”. You’d be hard pressed to find one who says “nigger” since the ‘er’ stands for “extra racist” you know. 😉

  • Did you just post something WITHOUT using CAPS LOCK!? Blasphemy!

  • Sue

    Just because you don’t call a Chinese a Chink doesn’t mean you aren’t being hateful or racist. Their comments how ever about his speaking Chinese are racist and hateful.

  • Sue

    No, just a clarification since everyone is stuck on one thing and either ignoring or just not getting the point.

  • Thanks, but I didn’t need the definition. I am glad you looked it up for yourself, though. I am assuming you now understand how this wasn’t a hate crime, correct? lol, who am I kidding.

  • Anonymous

    Oh horse hockey,  For 9 years I collected rent from between 200 to 275 black families a week. Sometimes as many as 300 plus. I knew them all on a first name basis. So don’t be trying to tell me how they talk. Black people aren’t much different than white people, they are usually just a lot poorer. This politically correct nonsense about racism is not going to make it go away. Racism is evil and hiding it in the closet makes it impossible to deal with. Never in my life have I called a black person a nigger and I never will. If I should decide to do so no mealy mouth white honky piece of crap is going to stop me.  During one of the worst phases of my life a black man trusted me enough to help me pull my ass out of the fire and start life all over again.

  • Anonymous

    Amen! Cedric.

  • Anonymous

    Who gives a shit.They are a bunch of brainless heartless thugs.

  • Anonymous

    Hate crime my ass. Its just a bunch of bully thugs who want to beat on somebody for the sadistic fun of it. This sort of thing has been going on since there was more than one group of cave men and will continue until Jesus’ second coming or a major asteroid strike. Carry a gun with a hi cap mag and everything becomes even.

  • Anonymous

    Drop it before we all get the shits.

  • Anonymous

    Well, So. I thought that was a requirement to post on dreamin demon.

  • Anonymous

    Do you think buying yourself a vibrating dildo would help?

  • Anonymous

    What makes you think anybody would parole you? Or even consider it.

  • Anonymous

    A girl being used to lure a boy! Boy howdy that was an original thought. These guys must be genius quality thugs.

  • Anonymous

    I know exactly where she got it. She made it up. Just like everybody does when they are at a loss for words.

  • Anonymous

    Otherwise also known as FUPA= Fat Upper Pussy Area…

  • Anonymous

    It wasnt a hate crime, it was just the way kids talk today which they learn off videos and movies, my comment was meant to say what is this world coming to, how are we being “guided” and taught by the media to have a whole new vocabulary that never before would people use, now its everyday talk, I just wonder what the next step is… hate crime no, just common vernacular nowadays that when you really think about it, becomes an entire different thing, whats next?…

  • I don’t have to tell you how “they” talk since I’m black! I’m sorry that every single black person that you know says it but don’t force that mess on a whole race since WE DON’T ALL SAY IT.

    Being PC is not how I am so you can miss me with all of that as well. We are not all from the hood, we don’t all play basketball, many of us hate fucking chicken and we DON’T all say nigga.

    All I asked was that the whole group not be placed in one statement. If that’s the case all white men have small dicks. I e seen enough

  • CT

    Abort, Abort!

  • In all seriousness, it probably works 99 percent of the time. 

  • Anonymous

    He should be thrilled, he can wear purple shirts without looking like a fool. 🙂

  • Anonymous

    You did not have to tell me you were an N person your comments reflected it. What kind of lady brags about how many dicks they have seen?  Black people don’t talk like that, just the N group. The N group seem to have a problem with their identity. Black people don’t. Decent people understand its the size of the intellect that matters not penis size or the bank account for that matter. I had a good relationship with the hundreds of black people I worked with. I am sure you would have been one of those exceptions. There were a lot of black people I would put my trust in before I would white people. Black people in general seem to understand the realities of life better than whites. I don’t believe in politically correct It just sweeps the dirt under the rug instead of getting rid of it.

  • Anonymous

    It always worked with me.  A pair of boobs in any size always was all I needed to become enslaved.

  • Anonymous

    Its beyond horrible. Its the way people are and until some kind of enlightenment posses their souls the world will remain a fucked up place. Violence and world domination with religion as its misguiding precepts is the most dangerous adversary the human race will ever face. The cause behind this event was not based on race it came out of gang hysteria to hurt to hurt someone for the fun of it. The Nazi’s among other groups honed it into a science.

  • Anonymous

    He should not have t accept it.  Here is the news  He is as good or better than anybody else. What he will have to learn and accept is that the world has more than its share of evil minded people. Why people are like this is something that will have to be taken up with your creator.

  • Anonymous

    The humans who decide what other humans mean are the ones with the biggest and mostess guns. They make these decisions while they are pointing them at you.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine, everyone else is wrong, and 1 person is right, huuuuuuuuuummmm

  • Anonymous

    I agree with VXIII that some of what we saw in this video was because of the way kids talk – especially the n-word stuff.  …but a lot of it was simply because they were trying to piss him off.  That’s what people do in attacks.  It’s in the rule book.

    The choice of racial, ethnic, or religious language in attacks is mostly a matter of efficiency.   An assailant – in the heat of a confrontation – is trying to antagonize the victim in the most disruptive way possible.  Because epithets are more-or-less hard-coded in us to cause a strong reactions, saying one is often the most antagonistic thing that someone can do.  

    So… I am Irish – although I do not necessarily look it.  If I had ever been up against some red haired pale skinned obviously Irish kid, you can bet that I would have called him a mick or paddy or pogue or something.  Is it because of self-loathing?  Of course not.  It is because – quite objectively – if the goal is to beat down, that would likely give the biggest bang for the buck.

    If anyone could imagine these kids to have said “Let’s go out today and find some Chinese kid to beat on because we hate Chinese kids…”  …that is a hate crime.  

    Anything else is something else.

  • Anonymous

    Ya, I don’t like fecal matter with my cow meat.

  • Anonymous

    At that age, shit, a promised pair of girls panties would have brought me and all my friends, a girl would have brought me and my cash.

  • Anonymous

    My mommy would have come for me just to give me a beat down before my dad got home to give me the real beat down.

  • For some reason my reply to you had to be approved by a moderator for some reason but I hope that it’s allowed to go up because you calling me a nigga though you don’t know one thing about my life and based off of a comment that I made that was supposed to be as insane sounding as knowing a whole culture based on 275 people is unacceptable.

  • Anonymous

    I gotta level with you, as someone who’s worked in a kitchen, chef’s love people who order their steak well. They save the nastiest skankiest bits for people who aren’t going to be able to taste the difference. They don’t have waste the meat and it keeps food costs down. I eat my meat, pork included, medium rare and I have never gotten sick. The few times I’ve been sick with food poisoning was from salads.

  • Anonymous

    I did not call you anything. You did. Where did you come up with 275 there were over 3000 tenants. I do not know anything about you and I am not interested. You have said it all. You are the one riled up about your culture, not me. The only culture that interests me is the American culture and what it implys.


  • For 9 years I collected rent from between 200 to 275 black families a week. Sometimes as many as 300 plus.”

    That’s where I got 275.

    I’ve never called myself a nigga, ever… because I am not, but you did call me one. “You did not have to tell me you were an N person your comments reflected it. ” 

    I am not riled up about my culture at all, I don’t like blanket statements about any culture and I defend all of them. The same way I correct my husband when he says “white people this…white people that.”  That isn’t cool at all…period.

     I’m the kind of person that you would probably love to know but you’re so busy trying to argue about everything instead of seeing the meaning behind what was said that you would never know it.

    You’re right, I said a lot but obviously you didn’t understand any of it. But like you said, I’m a N-group right? 

  • Maybe Dad schtupped Mom while he was taking her in back in the day.

  • Anonymous

    I am sorry I pushed your sensitive button I will try and be more thoughtful and loving from now on.

  • Sue

    That’s not what I was meaning. Everyone is obsessing about me thinking all the attackers were white. and going on and on about it when my point was this was a hate crime. I guess I should have said no one is getting “my” point. I did not say everyone was wrong and I am right about this entire thing.

  • Sue

    I am not talking about the use of the n word. I am talking about where they mock him for speaking Chinese (and literally punch him as soon as they are done talking)

  • Sue

    Choosing a victim because of race or language barrier makes them an easier target is still a hate crime.

  • Anonymous

    “I still think this was a hate crime.”

    I don’t think anybody is in any doubt that you think so by this point. The fact that all these kids knew each other and that he was beat up for reasons other than cultural or racial difference is never going to persuade you otherwise, is it?

  • Anonymous

    But they didn’t choose him because he was an easy target. They chose him because he was him and they didn’t like him.

  • Anonymous

    Abroad said it perfectly.

    Also…  What language barrier?  Almost everyone involved in this spoke Chinese.

    I know that you have been over this video like the Zapruder film… but, if you take another look, I think that you will see that the victim is getting shit about speaking Chinese because he is trying to reason directly with the Chinese kids by pleading to them in Chinese.  …and he gets an antagonistic beatdown for it – not because it is Chinese, but because the pleading is a sign of weakness and the English-speaking alpha dog wants to know what is being said.     

    Given that the victim is Chinese, the -only- way that this could be a true hate crime is if the attackers would have been completely satisfied with -any- other Chinese person as the victim.  This was a beef with THAT victim.  Ergo, no hate crime.

  • Anonymous

    “[…] the -only- way that this could be a true hate crime is if the attackers
    would have been completely satisfied with -any- other Chinese person as
    the victim.  This was a beef with THAT victim.  Ergo, no hate crime.”

    Thank you! This was exactly what I was trying to say.

  • Anonymous

    I’m so over using my body to lash out physically cause I’m angry.

    Passive aggressiveness is the way to go.

  • Missy

    Who cares what his race was? The point is he was tortured, I can’t imagine how he felt. I’m glad to know that he was okay. But, seriously, the way the world is now just makes me want to crawl into a ball and hide under my kitchen table. Public schools have some major issues, so do families of these kids that do something like this.