Police Kill Armed Teen Inside Texas Middle School

Sounds like the kid had a death wish, sounds planned to me.

I agree, I think the fight short circuited his young brain

The teenage mind is hinky by its very nature; underdeveloped and impulsive with hormones a-swirlin’.  

That said, as I noted over in the forums, this kid is reportedly a 15-year-old 8th grader.  Just to give it some perspective, I was a high school sophomore at the age of 15.  Based on that alone, he almost undoubtedly had developmental/learning/behavioral issues, which may turn out to be a contributing factor.

Maybe it is better he now is removed from society before he did a Columbine Colorado act. 

HA HA in the faces of those who claim I do a disservice to my children for home schooling them. Supposedly they won’t be well socialized. Well I say they won’t be DEAD!

He was probably possessed by SATIAN.

Too damn sad.

Being a girl I never had girl problems:P

I don’t suppose the police were equipped with tasers, were they?

I know you can’t blame the cops in this instance, but I really wish they would practice no kill shots in circumstances like this.  And then to find out it was a pellet gun.  Bad situtation all around 

So he would be like possibly two years behind?  From reading the article it seemed like he was pretty well put together….possibly had troubles in the past?  I don’t know but:

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-police-kill-8th-grader-carrying-pellet-gun-003818851.html

“Superintendent Carl Montoya remembered Gonzalez as “a very positive young man.”"He
did music. He worked well with everybody. Just something unfortunately
happened today that caused his behavior to go the way it went. So I
don’t know,” he said Wednesday.

Gonzalez
Sr. said he had no idea where his son got the gun or why he brought it
to school, adding: “We wouldn’t give him a gift like that.”

He
said he last saw his son around 6:30 a.m. Wednesday, when the boy said
goodbye before leaving to catch the bus to school. And he said nothing
seemed amiss the night before when he, his wife and their son went out
for nachos then went home and watched a movie.

Gonzalez
Sr. was struggling to reconcile the day’s events, saying his son seemed
to be doing
better in school and was always helpful around the
neighborhood mowing neighbors’ lawns, washing dogs and carrying his
toolbox off to fix other kids’ bikes.”

If your child was the boy who was killed in this situation, you may feel differently.  Kids do really dumb stuff and act before thinking.  You don’t know what your kids do when you ship them off to school.  If you got this call, you would be wishing they practiced no kill and your child could come home to you.  I don’t think the cops did anything wrong here, it’s just sad that it had to end this way. 

I am sure I would wish that, but I would also not blame the police like some people are.  That is what frustrates me.  They did nothing wrong here.  I feel for the parents of this boy, I really do, kids to things all the times their parents don’t know about or suspect.  But what if he had pulled a Columbine?  Would anyone question the use of deadly force then? 

everyone I’ve ever met who is home schooled is bizarre or some evangelical nutjob. My friend’s brother was kicked out of high school as a freshman and was home schooled by his mother from then on. He later tried to strangle her and spent two weeks in a mental hospital.

(knowing his mother…I understood the urge to strangle her)

Band kids were (and still are) popular at my old high school.I would say that if this kid mixed band and sports at the school that he was most likely popular.

I will agree that most kids I am familiar with attain 9th grade by14,however some kids have late birthdays which can affect their initial school enrollment date,or have moved around/traveled and been held back through no fault of their own.The kid being 15 and in the 8th grade is not really a good indicator of his mentality by itself.

I have seen this before and it is not always a reflection on the kid intellectually,sometimes they simply have a late birthday,which affected their enrollment.

Very good post.

In general you are correct,however I knew a lot of kids with late birthdays who had to wait before they could begin school,it’s not abnormal ,or uncommon.

Sounds like this kid felt he had nothing to lose, and by aiming the gun at police, I think he got what he was aiming for at that very moment. Now it is far to late to change his young mind.

This has been all over talk radio here and I have found myself getting all worked up while listening to some of these idiots. Obviously there was something wrong with this young man, because if you are a well adjusted individual with decent coping skills (yes, even at 15) you might fantasize about taking a firearm to school and wreaking vengeance but you would never do it. It was a pellet gun, but there was no way for administrators, other students or the police to know that. He held them at bay and repeatedly threatened them with grieviously bodily injury and even death. He was told repeatedly to drop the weapon and wouldn’t comply. when he leveled the pistol at them, they had to use force to deal with the threat and it turns out that they had to use deadly force. They couldn’t get close enough to use stun guns. A lot of idiots around here are calling it excessive force and even murder. It was not either of those. He was shot 3 times. It is believed that 2 officers shot at him and, from my understanding, LE around here are trained to use the double tap method. So they followed their training and unfortunately a young man lost his life. I can guarantee you those officers did not celebrate and will be traumatized that they had to make such a decision based on o ne young stupid boy’s actions. They wanted to make sure everyone else at the school made it home alive and uninjured at the end of the day, including themselves. I can’t fault them  for anything.

And for all the angelic things dad is saying on the news, the boy’s mother has admitted that her son has had some issues for awhile. I would bet that he had been aggressive at home before this. Even with all of this being said, I feel for the family and for the boy. It is a wasted life and my heart goes out to all involved. 

Suicide by cop is a very real possibility here.

This strikes me as more of a “thou shalt not speak poorly of the dead” thing right now.

Welcome to the real world.
People don’t fall down out of the fight because they’ve been shot once or twice.  This is something police academy instructors will hammer into your head over and over.  A man robbing a bank in Los Angeles was shot over twenty times, lost the majority of one hand and several fingers from another, and continued trying to resist arrest for nearly a half hour.  When he died, it wasn’t bloodloss or gunshot wounds; he apparently died of a heart attack.  Fatal gunshot wounds often leave the shooter with a lot of usable time before they finally die.

Instructors will also hammer this into your head: center of mass shots only.  Shooting targets and shooting in a real gun battle are utterly different.  Men who are ace shots at the range are often highly inaccurate in a real shootout.  Shooting guns out of someone’s hands exists only in movies.  If you try and miss (and you will), your opponent will get several free shots in on you.  Or they may reach cover, turning a shootout into a long standoff.  Maybe even get to take hostages.  Or carjack someone and escape.

In the time it would take to realize the kid had a pellet gun, the kid could have shot a dozen people if it was a real gun.  If it looks like a gun, then it gets treated like a real gun.

When guns come out, police don’t have the luxury of making elaborate heroic plans to disarm a lunatic.  The only thing they can do is put the shooter down as quickly as possible to protect themselves and everyone nearby.

Lucifer’s flamboyantly gay brother? *scratches head*

This is just a shit pie and all involved are going to have to eat a piece, period.
Its a bad situation.

Hey, I was born when Van Halen was rocking out. I know that song, as I’m close to 30…

I’d gladly discipline your ass. How does a TIME OUT sound?

Also, you need to be fairly well-educated yourself, to home school.

One of my friends was pulled out of public school to be home-schooled by her mother in elementary school. Sadly, her mom was neither educated nor a good teacher. My brilliant friend is only semi-literate, and is clueless about anything historical that doesn’t have a major motion picture based on it. Also, her math skills don’t extend beyond the basics. Compound interest boggles her mind. She’s really smart, too, but she never had a chance, intellectually.

You know it, baby!

I am a wack job who is not religious. My kids were super aggressive when they attended public school. They live the life of Riley now. They are loving the change. 2nd year homeschooling and counting.

OMG!!! LMAO. That good old education sure came out then! l

Dammit! Stupid touch phone!

I’m thinking he was probably held back and he possibly turned 15 in the past few months.  We don’t know his birthday. Being held back one year is not uncommon for some kids.   Or it’s possible like my brother he had to go to a head start program.   My brother could not start kindergarden at 5 because he was considered emotionally immature.   So he was always a year older then his classmates.   By 15 he was more then caught up but it didn’t change the fact that he was still a year older then the kids in his class.     My daughter is almost 15 and in 9th grade.   I think it’s normal for most kids to turn 15 in 9th grade (I did)   but it’s also very normal for a child to be held back in the early years or to start late for whatever reason.  

Thank you for being much more elaborate than I could ever be.