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Lawyer Blames Leiby Kletzkys Murder On Jewish InbreedingBrooklyn, NY - Back in July, Morbid reported on the case of the killing of 8-year-old Leiby Kletzky whose dismembered body were found, among other places, in 35-year-old Levi Aron’s freezer. The case has recently made news based on Aron’s lawyer’s claim that… well… everything is a mitigating factor.

The background of the story is this… Leiby Kletzky attended day camp. He normally took a bus home but wanted desperately to walk home instead. After listening to his begging, his parents agreed to allow him to walk part of the way home – a distance of 7-blocks. He would meet his mother for a doctor’s appointment. His parents were reported to have worked with him to memorize the route. They then also practiced the route together on a ‘dry run.’

On the day that Leiby was to walk home, he left the day camp wearing a striped shirt with his bag over his shoulder and a smaller bag on his waist. He initially followed the route as planned but, then, missed a turn on to a side street. Surveillance videos pieced together from sources along the way chronicled his attempt to get home.

“At various points he appears to be lost,” Paul J. Browne, the chief spokesman for the Brooklyn Police Department, said.

According to police, it was by ‘chance’ that Leiby asked Aron for help. After doing so, another camera showed Lieby waiting for seven minutes across the street from a dentist’s office while Aron went in and paid a bill.

“It’s very sad,” Mr. Browne said. “The boy looks like he’s just found somebody who’s going to help him find his way home.”

A different security camera showed Leiby getting into Aron’s brown 1990 Honda and being driven away. That would be the last time anyone other than Aron would reportedly see Leiby alive.

A combination of the records at the dentist’s office and a trace of the Honda’s plate led police to Aron. Parts of Lieby’s body would be found in Aron’s bloodstained freezer. Other parts would be found in a suitcase miles away. There reportedly is little doubt that Aron was responsible for the boy’s gruesome death.

Thankfully, Aron’s lawyer has gone on record recently to offer possible insights into why this child’s dismemberment-slaying may have happened. The lawyer has reportedly said that, in fact, the actions can be partially blamed on inbreeding in the Hasidic enclave of Borough Park, Brooklyn. Defense lawyer Howard Greenberg asserted that relatives sometimes marry and procreate in tight-knit Jewish groups, risking genetic defects.

“Look, everybody knows when blood relations have offspring, there can be genetic defects,” Greenberg said. “There’s inbreeding in that community.”

As you can imagine, the residents of Borough Park are thrilled.

“This lawyer is simply out of his freaking mind.” Brooklyn Assemblyman Dov Hikind said. “[Greenberg is] a sick, self-hating Jew who’s making a mockery of this case. It’s insulting and degrading to our entire community,” Hikind added.

Greenberg has also added that a head injury of Aron’s as a 10-year-old and schizophrenia can also be blamed. Oddly, his client being a twisted, evil POS, was not mentioned as a possible cause.

Aron has been found fit to stand trial. His lawyer is planning to mount an insanity defense.

“It’s a very simple case,” Greenberg said. “You don’t do this unless you’re crazy.”

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  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    This case breaks my heart every time I think/read about it. I cannot imagine what pain this family continues to go through.

    I heart sincerely goes out to them.

    As for this monster…well, there is nothing that can equate to what he has done to that family. Nothing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Nita0311 Nita Rodriguez

    Wow, he looks psycho. o_O 

  • Anonymous

    Race cards, Hasidic cards, I’m grooming my defense team on the tarot cards.

  • LeaveMeBe

    “It’s a very simple case,” Greenberg said. “You don’t do this unless you’re crazy.”

    He forgot to add “and evil” after crazy.

    It’s cases like this where I wish we still used barbaric means to carry out the death penalty. Nothing could be cruel or unusal enough for this real life monster.

  • Anonymous

    It’s like watching a bad horror movie, you keep yelling at the parts where the victim can save himself. The “if onlys” in this case just kill me. Out of all the people who would have dropped everything to help a lost 8-year-old he ended up picking this guy. It’s just too sad.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Right?! The odds of this amazes me. The one person that he picks is a monster. That little boy was probably so happy to get some help…so happy.

    This story brings tears to my eyes every single time.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XA4RDSRSUX3XRSCPRR7XNGSPUQ Joshua

    I’ll be honest…I think I cried a little when I first saw this story. That’s not manly to admit but this one got under my skin in a way most crime stories don’t.

  • Anonymous

    And this is why I loathe most defense lawyers.

    I realize they’re necessary, but in this particular case it’s more of a ‘necessary evil’ than anything.

    If this skeezeball can live with himself after defending a sick, deranged chucklefuck like this, I’d be damned amazed or completely convinced that this lawyer has absolutely no soul.

    And now I’m going to have nightmares about letting my daughter go anywhere by herself in the future.  Ghhhhh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XA4RDSRSUX3XRSCPRR7XNGSPUQ Joshua

    As someone who works in a court house…I agree completely. I see it every day. They are vile.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s the sheer saddness of it.  The little one wanting to walk instead of taking the bus, the parents practicing the route with him so he wouldn’t get lost, the confusion when he misses his turn, then the imagined relief he felt when he found help only for it to turn out to be the worst choice of his short, innocent life.  How totally fucked up. 

  • Anonymous

    Who cares if he’s insane.  He knew what he did was wrong, that’s why he tried to cover it up.  Life sentence or death penalty (preferably death). 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PTWOODZ24CU6IRVPIIDWCJFBFY cavylove

    It’s heartwrenching how this little guy who was finally able to be independent made a wrong turn that cost him his life.He trusted this garbage. I can’t imagine the regret his parents must be feeling. And what happens to this bastard? Simply pled insanity. The act of dismembering shows he clearly knows how to hide his monstrous deeds. It’s not insane, it’s evil.

    I agree with Wends. Defense lawyers are necessary, but it still doesn’t prevent me from hating people like Greenberg. Yeah. it’s ‘simple’ alright. You don’t usually defend a sick fuck unless you are crazy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PTWOODZ24CU6IRVPIIDWCJFBFY cavylove

    Oh ya, if I can devise a punishment for this guy. I will first pour boiling water over him, skin him alive, and then throw him in a tub of salt. 

    Or maybe i’d just poke tiny needles in his eyeballs and underneath his nails. And then slice him off while keeping him alive and conscious the whole time.

  • Anonymous

    Note to self—–don’t cross cavylove !

  • Anonymous

    drag him kicking and screaming out behind the court house, give the victims family 10 minutes with him, and cremate him after they are done, dead or not.

  • Anonymous

    I’m thinkin’ that the stuff you guys just described should be done to his lawyer as well……..what a piece of slime….

  • Anonymous

    I worked for 7 years as a senior case manager at a personal injury law firm that represented injured people. I didn’t know until then that lawyers do not take a oath during trial to tell the truth, when you think about it only people who testify swear to tell the truth. During a mediation I had a defense attorney sit right across the table from me a lie. You can’t call them a liar in such a situation (its no professional), I merely pointed out that that was “untruthful counselor ”
    he smiled when I called him out, his client lost and had to pay mine at the end but in civil trials I have seen many outright lie.

  • Anonymous

    I have 0% tolerance for people who harm women and children period.
    Here is a story of one of my best friends niece, we were in high school when this happened and he grew up to become a cop and has been for 30 yrs- this fucking terrorized our community for years-
    http://www.wtv-zone.com/LadyMaggie/php/AmySueStory.html

  • Anonymous

    Damn inbreeding jews! Thanks for making my stomach churn this fine day Morbid.

  • Anonymous

    He deadskinmask213 is that jew?

  • Anonymous

    My heart breaks for that poor boy.  I have been lost several times as a child in department stores because of playing around and not staying with my mother.  It was frightening. I can’t even describe the relief I felt when my mother finally found me.  Even looked forward to the ass beating/chewing that I deserved.  That being said, I would never allow my 8 year old to travel on his own in this small town I live in, much less NYC.  WTH made his parents think this was a good idea?  More angry at the boys parents than the killer.  This didn’t have to happen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PTWOODZ24CU6IRVPIIDWCJFBFY cavylove

    The link didn’t work for me, but i did search around for the story. It’s really a very terrible thing that happened to the little girl and her family. 

    I will not bat an eyelid when it comes to punishing people who harm defenseless individuals like that guy and this one. This is when I wish there will be a specially devise way to kill these guys to prolong their suffering as long as possible. Inhumane, but it is befitting them.

  • Anonymous

    Explain to me why he had to add that whole “inbreeding” shit since Jewishness is passed along BY THE MOTHER’S BLOOD, ain’t it?

    He didn’t have to insult the Jewish community at all, another pathetic excuse from a antisocial psychopath that couldn’t control his urge to killl anymore & took it out on poor Leiby.

    I fucking hate that insane defenses can get assholes off instead of sending their asses to death, like they deserve.

  • Anonymous

    ikr!  that damned morbid!

  • Anonymous

    Even if they aren’t the one’s taking an oath, lying is lying and it makes a mockery of our so called “justice” system.  Constitutionally speaking a defendant is entitled to representation that ensures his civil rights aren’t violated and that he isn’t otherwise “railroaded”.  That makes perfect sense. It doesn’t make sense that defense attorneys are allowed to be deceitful and call it representing their client to the best of their ability.  That isn’t justice.  Its leaving society vulnerable to these thieving and murderous bastards.   

  • Anonymous

    Oh you fuckktard:

                              There is MORE INBREEDING at a hudderite, menonnite & Amish community than in the Jewish communities in the world.

  • Anonymous

    As the inbred says: “It’s a small community” and apparently everyone assumed that everyone that’s a Jew is NOT evil, just has a mom that’s a sister & a wife at the same time.  The parents were not at blame since they did everything right, EXCEPT for the age of the child.  They were trying to let their child experience freedom which most parents should have & @Athena:disqus should be able to explain better than me.

    The problem is that no matter who this sadistic evil monster fuck found that day, he was going to murder it.  Leiby just made it easier by being small & innocent.

  • Anonymous

    To me a lawyer like the one that represented that Caylee Anthony’s mom… the thing with all of them is that even if there is a preponderance of the evidence & all signs point to the “YOUR CLIENT DID THE CRIME” & they can still get the person off means reputation & money from more scumbags that will pay to get off.
    THAT’S WHY they do it. Fame, fortune & reputation.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. No doubt that is the reason they do it.  But it ought to be a crime to knowingly & intentionally slander an un-accused person like George Anthony as Baez did when he knew he was throwing out lies just to get his client off.  Where is the justice for Caylee in that??  And George sure as hell was done an injustice.  It isn’t about justice anymore, its about winning.  It disgusts me.  

  • Anonymous

    I agree that Leiby is a POS monster and as a monster, he is likely always looking for a victim. And there are many like him out there, which is why it is insane to me to let an 8 YO travel alone.  The parents may not be legally culpable but they were negligent, IHMO.  All kids want freedom and they should have it a little at a time and when they are ready. If he was 13 I’d feel a little different.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XA4RDSRSUX3XRSCPRR7XNGSPUQ Joshua

    He did it to specifically hurt the Jewish community in that area. He hates his own life and assumes his being Jewish is at the root of why he’s so fucked up. To me he was fucked up anyways and nothing his community could do was ever going to be able fix him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “Look, everybody knows when blood relations have offspring, there can be genetic defects,” Greenberg said. “There’s inbreeding in that community.”

    I had to laugh at this Attorney’s ignorance.The fact (or not) that there is inbreeding in Jewish culture has absolutely nothing to do with this sick Bastard’s case … or was the so – called Attorney attempting to say that Aron is the result of inbreeding, and as such has genetic mental defeats,which lead to his fucked up actions ?

  • Anonymous

    Lawyers are legally required to do whatever they can (within limits of the law, of course) to get their client a victory.  If your client is guilty and you just let the other side convict him without a reasonable defense, your client can turn around and file a negligence complaint.  All such complaints must be investigated regardless of merit.  If the court finds that you’ve let a case slide on purpose, you can be disbarred.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know Inbreeding causes people to go batshit insane and start killing 7 year olds. whodathunkit?

    It really is a piece of shit motive to say such things about a community. I know defense lawyers have a responsibility to do whatever they feel is best for their clients but a lot of times it seems like they disregard the victims.Case in point: There was a case several years ago that was overshadowed by P.Diddy’s trial. A little boy was bound, drugged, and sodomized for hours until he went into shock by 2 male adults. They go on trial and their POS lawyers basically says “Since the little boy did not say no in his drugged stupor, he was basically consenting.”Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t FUCKING KNOW  LITTLE BOYS CAN CONSENT TO RAPE.These things piss me off to no end

  • Anonymous

    …These two little boys did not deserve what came to them, hell any child does not deserve to be killed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    The thought keeps hitting me that the parents dropped a ball on this one … I only blame the suspect … but the thought is still there …

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    If it makes you feel any better about this Attorney  – it seems like he’s helping to set the stage for the guy to get convicted,not attempting to aid him in any way at all.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, just wanted to say, it must take real guts to become a defense lawyer.

    One of my old college professors who studied fashion was considering becoming a lawyer before he got into the industry. One day his professor took him out told him that being a lawyer was not in his best interest because my professor seriously could not sugar coat the actions of his client.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    I’m sure that there are  Attorney’s who are good people (in general) Joshua – I have just never met one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “Fame, fortune & reputation.”

    You left off the fact that it’s their job,and that it’s the law.

    As for the lying that Califboy mentioned – if done at court, and proven later  “perjury” is a jail-able offense,as well as cause for revocation of license.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Nail on the head Baby … nail on the head.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XA4RDSRSUX3XRSCPRR7XNGSPUQ Joshua

    I think they even argued about letting him walk home…the mother was against but the father wanted to give the boy some freedom and the father talked the mother into it…I’m sure they must repeat that conversation in their head over and over again

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XA4RDSRSUX3XRSCPRR7XNGSPUQ Joshua

    Well I work for a District Attorney…I really despise the defense lawyers. With prosecutors I only feel ambivalence.

  • Anonymous
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XA4RDSRSUX3XRSCPRR7XNGSPUQ Joshua

    I admit I am not “in the know” about this community in particular but I doubt there is in breeding unless it is something distant like second cousins. Leviticus (which is in their torah as it is in the christian bible) explicitly condemns incest and goes into great detail denouncing it.

    (I say that as an atheist who loves the book of Leviticus…some of it makes a lot of sense as a how to guide on how to survive living in the desert 2000 years ago and some of it is down right illogical when seen through a modern perspective…like you can’t even plant two different crops in the same field or touch your wife while she’s on her period…freaky shit)

  • aka jas

    I cant begin to even think about just the first parts of this before my stomach goes into knots.

    There are TWO monsters at work here, Aron and his shit bag “lawyer”.  The ethics of this fuckin bottom feeder is truly disgusting.

  • Bulletproof

    That seriously disturbed me. Almost as much as the guy who bashed that newborn with a cinder block. I can’t imagine looking at a baby or child, and WANTING to hurt them. Poor little babys :( . As a mother, nothing makes me more violent or homicidal than people who hurt children. I seriously want them to die. And fuck that pussy-ass lethal injection. I’m talking racks and judas cradles…

  • Pyncky

    I don’t think his hiding of his crime proves that he knew it was wrong. It proves that he knew that society thought it was wrong. There is a difference. That said people like him make me wish that hell was real and televised so we could watch him burn.

  • Bulletproof

    Me too. I know many people are questioning the parents decision, and I understand that. Thats a scary thing to do in this day and time, especially in NYC. But I remember staying home from school by myself at 8 when I was sick. I walked 5 blocks to cheerleading practice every day when I was 8. Heck my bus stop was half a mile from my house! Now I know this was 20 years ago, but the early 90s wern’t exactly “safe” either. I feel so incredibly BAD for the parents… I cant imagine what they are going through. They tried so hard to do it right, working with him to memorize the route, even doing a practice run. They wanted him to feel independence. They wanted him to feel proud of himself. As a parent I can understand that too. Now they have to live with the fact that that decision cost their son his life. Man… Let’s not blame the parents on this one. Let’s blame the sick fucks out there that MAKE it not safe for kids to walk home. 

  • Anonymous

    Leiby is the victim’s name. Levy is his punkass pussy name.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the father cared about that defense cause I would’ve sued her ass for slandering & yet he hasn’t.

    I should also think that since you can’t keep a child alive/killed a child you shouldn’t be able to bring more victims into this world, so part of her “getting off” is those tubes tied.

  • Steph[anie]

    At first, I looked at this title and almost laughed out loud. “Building a case” (actually, more like tearing it apart and making you and your client BOTH look like degenerate assholes) on that assumption is the most ludicrous bullshit I’ve ever heard. Inbreeding. Right. 
    How about we look at the real “possible” (probable) cause. Your client is a degenerate POS that murdered an innocent boy who, GOD FORBID, asked for directions. He plotted the murder as he ran errands with the boy before driving off with him and taking the time to not only kill him but to dismember him. Schizophrenia doesn’t lead to murder in most cases, so let’s cut that bullshit out right now, too. A head injury at 10? Let me guess, that is what they are going to allege led to schizophrenia which led to this innocent boy’s horrific death. That’s not even physically possible, of course, but I wouldn’t put it past this lawyer to come up with that. ”Parts of Lieby’s body would be found in Aron’s bloodstained freezer. Other parts would be found in a suitcase miles away. There reportedly is little doubt that Aron was responsible for the boy’s gruesome death.”Little doubt, indeed. If the fridge fits, fucking fry him. This story is just sick and sad. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    “I don’t think his hiding of his crime proves that he knew it was wrong. It proves that he knew that society thought it was wrong.”

    WHAT ???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Question – “Did this sick freak also rape the boy ?”

  • Anonymous

    Greenberg is running a close second to Jose Baez.  That tells you about where his ethics level is.  In the minus column.  Most defense attorneys are not interested in the truth.  They are interested in getting their clients out of whatever stupid-assed things they get into.

    Aron is sick, yeah.  That’s the MINOR point.  He’s also a predatorial sadistic asshole POS pedophile whose mother probably IS his sister.  You cannot blame what he did on inbreeding.  Jesus H. Christ.  This asshole was there, the opportunity presented itself and he took it.  THAT doesn’t flag him as inbred.  That flags him as plain ol’ bottom of the barrel EVIL. 

    Insanity, my ass.  Fry his ass.

    As to Cedric’s question, didn’t I read that Leiby was sexually assaulted among all the myriad of evils this creep perpetrated against him? Or am I thinking of some other case?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WVILU6VVU5426IZ6GTJNH6MPKA Chris

    I started corresponding with Levi after I first read of this horrible story months ago. Levi is a very strange individual and absolutely has mental/emotional problems. I dont think he is insane in regards to this crime, I think he was fully aware his actions were wrong and that there was consequences for them. For that I think it’s appropriate that if he is convicted he receive the maximum sentence imposed in the state of NY (which is life without parole). If you have any questions for me regarding him or his personality, please ask. I’d be more than willing to share what I know about him.

  • Anonymous

    How did they drop a ball? Kids can not live in cages. That’s illegal, we’ve found out. They need freedom at some point. They did everything they could think of to keep their child safe while allowing him the freedom kids NEED.

  • Anonymous

    Ron White has the best take on the criminally insane:

    “We gotta stop grouping all of the crazy people together god dammit!
    Whats this guy do?
    Oh, he rolls his shit into little balls and eats crayons.
    Fine, I’ll feed him for the rest of his life, what does this guy do?
    Oh, he kills productive members of our society.
    Well, he should have rolled his shit into little balls and ate crayons”

    Yes, obviously this dude is crazy. But I’m still down to see him ended.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think encouraging good people to do monstrous things is the best way to improve our world.

    He should be put down for the sake of society-at-large, but unlike him, we are (theoretically) civilized, and should act in the interest of justice, not vengeance.

  • Anonymous

    I would NEVER have gotten in a car with a strange man as a kid, though. EVER. Almost certainly not a strange woman, either. I don’t understand why the boy did. Did he feel that since they were both members of the same community, he would be safe?

    I agree, the parents did nothing wrong. You have to cut the apron strings sometime, and they worked to prepare him. Not their fault that such an unlikely monster would be right there right then. But they will blame themselves forever, I’m sure. They have my deepest sympathy…

  • Anonymous

    Did you see his memorial page, it will make you cry :(

  • Anonymous

    This one of those stories that truely makes me heartsick.I feel so bad for this boy,s parents and what a nightmare they are going through.It’s bad enough your child dies but this little boy was murdered and dismembered.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    i’ve got to laugh, in a teeth gritting, snarling kinda way.

    to think the parents went through such thorough measures to keep their kid safe and on the very first fucking day – THIS happens?!

    yeah fuck you universe, fuuuuuck you.

  • Anonymous

    Wonder if he is planning on producing all these inbreds in court. Not that it would matter but I’d kind of like to know exactly how you’d go about asking – and getting an honest answer – an entire Jewish community if they are breeding with relatives. UGH! When lawyers make statements like this, they ought to have to back them up.  

  • Anonymous

    OOps, ty.

  • Anonymous

    How horrible.

  • Anonymous

    You crack me up.

  • Anonymous

    The killer is the only one responsible for the boys death – to be sure. Perps are always seeking a victim.   But the parents did drop the ball.  I feel for them, I really do.   

  • Athena

    NYC is, per capita, one of the safest cities in the country.  Also, this day and time is safer than when any of us were children.  I understand why people are freaked out, but it’s only because they let the media impact them rather than doing the research themselves.  I implore everyone to do the research, because reading this site or watching fucking Nancy Grace day-in-and-day-out will warp your perspective.  By the way, Bulletproof, I’m just piggybacking off your post to explain this to people who probably don’t know.  I know you know.

    Love the rest of your post. <3

  • http://truecrimereport.com iLLusionS

    I was reading the defense lawyers statement, and I thought maybe I am high and read it all wrong. And then I read it again, and nope, it still didn’t make one bit of sense….
    *sigh*
    And this poor little boy….trying to do something “big boy” and on his own. and this waste of air had to be the one he crossed paths with.

  • Anonymous

    Not blaming the parents, but why would you let an 8 year old walk 7 blocks alone in the city?

  • JustBrowsingLife

    I Call BS! Blaming the parents is something the defense attorney will taint the jury pool (public) with. There is an elementary school K-6 at the end of my street in which several hundred kids walk to each day. In my city you must live at least 1.6 miles from the school to be on a bus route. Millions of kids ages 5-18 walk to school in cities,neighborhoods, and towns in our country and the world without parental supervision and do not die because of this fact. Blame belongs solely to Aron Levy!!!!!!! Shame on whoever assigns any blame to the parents!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    That was a sad and terrible story califboy.I would never think to leave a two yearold unattended though, not inside or outside the home. that poor little baby :(

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    While no kid should live in a proverbial “cage” a parent is ultimately responsible for their child,and for their child’s safety. I disagree that these parents did everything they could to “keep their child safe”.I already stated that I don’t blame the parents for the child’s death,but the fact remains that if the child had not been granted walk home alone,with (apparently)not even a cell phone on him privileges – then he would most likely still be alive today.Someone else’s baby would be dead,but not this kid;I say that because I believe this suspect/fucker had already made up his mind to snatch,and kill a child the first opportunity that he got.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

     ”NYC is, per ca-pita, one of the safest cities in the country.Also, this
    day and time is safer than when any of us were children.”

    What you stated above is true,but lets take a closer look at all this implied child safety :

    In New York:

    A child is abused or neglected every 6 minutes.

    A child dies before his or her first birthday every 6 hours.

    A child or teen is killed by gunfire every 3 days.

     

    Number of juvenile arrests: 41,671.

    Number of children and teens in juvenile residential facilities:
    3,612.

    Number of children and teens killed by firearms: 107.93
    homicides; 13 suicides;1 accident.

    Compiled from the most recent data available as of January
    2011.

  • Anonymous

    If you did a pedo search for that area you’d see plenty of reasons not to let your child walk ALONE for the first time unless you are positive he can find his way. It isn’t like he was walking  with a group of kids. The parents didn’t even follow him secretly to be sure he was ok nor did they give him a cell phone or a quarter for a pay phone, or any other back up plan in case something went wrong.

    So yeah, shame on me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    Myself – I only blame the killer;however that does not change the fact that if the child had not been walking(and walking without a cell phone,at that)he would still be alive today.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    ( follow him secretly ) – I never said anything about this,but if I was this kid’s father – I would have been shadowing that entire fucking walk home.

    My kids were never allowed to walk,they either rode the bus,or I dropped them off at school,and went back and picked them up.

  • Anonymous

    Do a pedo search for that area and after all the red pins show up tell me that you’d let your child walk those 8 blocks by his self. It really isn’t about the amount of crime for me.  We rarely have crime here and I wouldn’t let mine walk alone.  Especially for the first time and without a back up plan in case he should get lost. 

    Where did you do your research?  I couldn’t find anything that says NYC is one of the safest cities per capita.  Not discounting your word but all I found was that NYC is NOT in the top 13 safest cities nor is it in the 25 worst. That really doesn’t tell me anything.     

  • Anonymous

    I would have too. When I was a kid we always had to walk in groups and that was til I was old enough to drive.  I grew up in Phoenix and Miami, two huge cities with a lot of crime.  My kids also either took a bus or I picked them up. 

  • Anonymous

    Be very careful, unless you are professionally trained you could be asking for trouble.

  • Anonymous

    Family tree probably looks like a stump.

  • Anonymous

    I have argued with adults that DON’T have children about my two daughters getting cell phones when they were in 6th grade because school activities at that age started keeping them after school and I did not want them for whatever reason standing alone somewhere with no ability to call me or their mother. many adults say it is a waste of money and the child is spoiled, ya, fuck them, my daughters have called many times saying they are going here or there over the years and we are the type of parents that do know where the hell are kids are. My 23 year old calls after work each night to let me know she is going to her boyfriends after work so I don’t worry, she graduated last June from college and is working at a part time job while applying for the career job and living at home.

  • Anonymous

    She was in the front yard, the yard had a 3 foot high fence around it and she was playing with some other kids, he stopped reached over the fence grabbed her and off he went, the home was 3 blocks from a freeway on-ramp and he was gone, it happened in 2 to 3 minutes by the time he grabbed her and got away. I never would rent of buy a house any where near a freeway after that. Richard Ramirez the Calif serial killer said after he was caught he like brown colored houses near freeway on ramps, he could kill and then jump on the freeway to get away quickly.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5huwZoPZA

  • Anonymous

    There is 3 good lawyers in our town, you can find all three buried just outside town! :)

  • shannie

    It’s common in NYC, eltrut.  There are people from your neighborhood everywhere and many parents choose to do it..

  • shannie

    This case is so horrific..Gerrard Marrone had to stop representing Levi..
    As police prepared to remove more evidence from Levy Aron’s attic apartment, his legal team suffered a body-blow today.
    Defense
    co-counsel Gerard Marrone abruptly resigned from the case, telling
    Eyewitness News that he simply could not in good conscience continue to
    represent Aron, who is accused of abducting and murdering an 8-year-old
    Leiby Kletzky in Brooklyn.
    “The
    allegations were too horrific, and it’s not something I wanted to be
    involved in,” he told Eyewitness News. “I have three boys. One of my
    sons is seven. I looked at my own children and there are no words. You
    see the victim and you feel so sad.
    ”Marrone admitted there was a time earlier this week when he cried over the death of Leiby Kletzky.A good lawyer is possible to find…

  • shannie

    I agree with CalifBoy   don’t send him money or even give him personal information about you…you know you re dealing with a criminal, with a mind that is dangerous…

  • shannie

    Yes I believe he did.

  • shannie

    You hit the nail on the head right there…

  • shannie

    You don’t understand the community Leiby is from, they do not conform to what regular communities do, and they are not going to… they took every precautions to make sure this boy their son was able to remember his was to the bus that was gonna take him to the camp and he went thru a few dry runs very well..A cell phone would have done what Cedric? Levi would have tossed it..if not there, wiped and tossed it on his way up state and dumped it there…which would have taken longer to find little Leiby…

  • Anonymous

    Quick call, Guinness World Records, finally a attorney with a heart and soul.

  • shannie

    Joshua, look at my most recent post, it’s about the lawyer before this one who is representing  Levi…

  • shannie

    Marrone is a well know and respected defense attorney here in NYC and he actually teared up when he made this public statement..it gave new hope for humanity after hearing him make this statement…it gave me some faith that there are good guys out there…. saying fuck the money, I want my kids safe!

  • Anonymous

    I could only imagine the pictures and shit during trial, the images could fuck you up for years.
    Really there are good attorneys, a few give many a bad name.

  • shannie

    Just to jump on that a bit, sorry Bulletproof, but in these tight knit Jewish communities, they watch out for each others children an make sure the boys especially learn to be independent because at 13 they are Men…The parents take the kids on dry runs of their walks to school, to Temple, to the store and they raise their children together with the community..I can not blame the parents of little Leiby in the slightest..and the now announcement of inbreeding is just to embarrass and shame that peaceful community and peaceful people..shame on them.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely right. I can kind of understand my mom when she didn’t allow me to walk home from school, even though it was 6 blocks at the most and in a very safe neighborhood.

    Parents, I understand how you feel now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WVILU6VVU5426IZ6GTJNH6MPKA Chris

    Calif, why do I need to be professionally trained? Believe it or not, and most experts agree, the thing to exercise the most when talking to these people is common sense. Believe me, I have lots of it. I’ve been corresponding with convicted multiple murderers and savage killers for about 4 years now and have never had a problem. Shannie, I dont send them money, I do however send them postage if i’m able. They do have my personal information and it doesnt bother me. Also Levi is no Ted Bundy. he’s not a manipulative or cunning criminal. he’s a screwed up guy. He’s more Sling Blade than he is HH Holmes.

  • shannie

    That’s on you then…good luck.

    Tell him I hope he pays for what he did to that poor little boy that trusted him..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1111040088 Kelly Durbin

    He was a child.  I keep telling my five year old not to talk to or get into a car with strangers.  He acts like he understands and then looks at me and says “But I can go with nice strangers, right?”

    It scares me to death.  Kids just don’t comprehend the true evil in people.  I’m not even sure I do, sometimes.  The things people do to their fellow man horrify me, even after graduating from law school. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1111040088 Kelly Durbin

    My mom followed me secretly when I was nine and begged to walk to the corner store for a candy bar.  I caught her though…..wow, those were the days!

  • Anonymous

    My daughters ex-boyfriends dad worked for 30 years dealing with the criminally insane, after he retired he flew around the country free lancing and he said if he ever learned one thing,
    these fuckers are broke and can not be repaired, not matter how many med’s or rehab classes they take – here is a link to the worst of the worst in Cali where he worked -

    http://www.dmh.ca.gov/services_and_programs/state_hospitals/atascadero/default.asp

  • Anonymous

    I hope he pays way before trial.

  • Athena

    Thank you, Cap’n Obvious.  No, this kid wouldn’t have been killed had he not been allowed to walk home.  That doesn’t mean they dropped the ball, though.  Had this kid been killed in a car accident because his parents insisted on driving him those seven blocks, you wouldn’t be sitting here saying the parents dropped the ball, even though driving seven blocks is exponentially more dangerous than walking seven blocks, generally speaking.

  • Athena

    The only thing you listed that has anything to do with general child safety would be the gun-related deaths.  The rest of it isn’t at all germane to what is being discussed.  And, as it relates to the gunfire stats, the Jewish sector of Brooklyn isn’t exactly known for its gun violence, so that’s not all that germane, either.

  • Athena

    We’re different kinds of parents, obviously.  Different kinds of thinkers, in fact.  You look at that map and think, “OMG!  Look at all those sex offenders!” and I understand that reflex.  But, I look at that map and think, “Huh. 1,294 sex offenders in all of Brooklyn.  Brooklyn is NY’s largest borough with roughly 2.5 million residents.  That’s a rate of .00052 sex offenders.  AND we know that not all sex offenders target children.  In fact, out of the first 100 listed, only 14 (and that’s generous – in some cases, it was unclear) targeted children.  So, if that average carries through, only .14 of sex offenders target children.  That means, on any given day, a kid has a .000072% chance of even encountering a predator.  The odds of a kid being abducted and dismembered are astronomical.”  Now, obviously, that methodology is pretty general, but it does well to illustrate just how unlikely this kind of thing is.  The parents had better odds of winning the NY St. Powerball.  

    So, yeah, after looking at that map, I’d still let my 8 year old walk 8 blocks.  Of course, what I would have done differently is program my child to, when lost, walk into the first business he sees to use the telephone to call home.  I knew that shit when I was 4, just in case I were to get separated on walks or bike rides or something.  I also, as I believe Deety mentioned, would never have gotten into a stranger’s car under any circumstances.  But even if the parents didn’t stress those things, I wouldn’t say they had “dropped the ball”.  They weren’t as prepared as I would have been, but, hell… Most people aren’t. ;)

  • Athena

    Not to mention, the conviction can be overturned and, at the very least, that means the state has to pay to re-try the case.  

  • Athena

    My Godfather was a public defense attorney for Palo Alto for his entire career (recently retired).  It was with him that I interned.  He graduated Phi Beta Kappa, Stanford Law on a scholarship.  He is the smartest man I have ever met; he could have made millions with his skills and education. But he went into public defense because he believed in the accused’s right to the best defense money could buy… for free.  As a Catholic, he believed he was doing God’s work. 

    Good, decent lawyers outnumber the sharks and the scum by far.  Unfortunately, it’s the money-grubbing assholes who stick out.   

  • Chris D

    I’ve spoken at length with the most depraved murderers, while I do agree 95% of them cant be fixed, a small percentage of them can be rehabilitated (not to say that means they should ever be released from custody). In most of those cases i’ve find them to be juvenile offenders. Levi needs treatment for any mental and emotional problems, i’m sure medication wouldn’t hurt either. Like I said before, Levi is not a cunning psychopath, he’s a screwed up guy that did something horrible for reasons unknown. His capabilities show his danger and i’m glad he’s in jail, but I dont find him to be a blood thirsty maniac. There are still aspects of him and his suspected (I say suspected in a technical legal sense because he has yet to be convicted) crime that are perplexing to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002839726518 Mike Meece

    This guy is gonna have a real hard time pleading insanity on grounds of Schizophrenia or Psychosis. For those that don’t know, there are approximately 15 Million Americans that have one form of Schizophrenia or Psychosis. I am one of those 15 million and we don’t go out and murder people. In fact, with the proper medication and therapy. You wouldn’t even notice our problems, unless we tell you.
    This guy is sick, sadistic, pathetic and deserves to die for going after an innocent child. He will die in prison and that will put a smile on my face. I have to give credit for the attorney that put his foot down and said that he can’t defend this man.
    I guess you have to be a pretty fucked up attorney to defend a person like him. I hope that this insanity plea goes nowhere because that would be like a kick in the balls to all of us who have worked hard and to have this man say that he was “Not There” while he killed and dismembered that child. That takes thought, emotion and other things that isn’t possible when you lose your mind.

  • shannie

    shannie 2 days ago
    This case is so horrific..Gerrard Marrone had to stop representing Levi..As police prepared to remove more evidence from Levy Aron’s attic apartment, his legal team suffered a body-blow today.Defense co-counsel Gerard Marrone abruptly resigned from the case, telling Eyewitness News that he simply could not in good conscience continue to represent Aron, who is accused of abducting and murdering an 8-year-old Leiby Kletzky in Brooklyn.“The allegations were too horrific, and it’s not something I wanted to be involved in,” he told Eyewitness News. “I have three boys. One of my sons is seven. I looked at my own children and there are no words. You see the victim and you feel so sad.”Marrone
    admitted there was a time earlier this week when he cried over the
    death of Leiby Kletzky. A good lawyer is possible to find…and one
    with heart too..
    It just felt right to c/p this right here…

  • Edwin L.

    This is a horrendously evil person, I consider myself to be a good human being, but this bucket of pig vomit makes me want to… Nevermind.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    ” Had this kid been killed in a car accident because his parents insisted
    on driving him those seven blocks, you wouldn’t be sitting here saying
    the parents dropped the ball”
    You are correct – had it happened this way,I would not.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKMAEMPVJ5T2Y35HKYTNG7I6SY Cedric

    We must agree to disagree.Everything that I listed above has to do with general child safety in NYC.in my opinion.

  • Anonymous

     “You don’t do this unless you’re crazy”. Unless of course you’re just plain evil or a pedo trying to hide a crime. Or bored and not sure enough of yourself to kill someone your own size.Or……….

  • Anonymous

    No sarcasm meant here, but why would you want to spend time communicating with this type of people?

  • rebecca rasha

    thats what im saying. maybe because they lived in a close knit community they didnt tell him not to talk to strangers…it didnt come up? but as a child, i would never ever ever get into anyones car, especially a mans, without my mother or father permission. my mom used to scare the crap out of me. she would say that people were going to steal me (as a child) and put stuff in my butt. I was terrified of strangers…I was also terrified of some of my fathers friends. not like pee on yourself terrified, but scared enough to know that i would certainly never go anywhere alone with them, ever. ever. his poor parents.

  • rebecca rasha

    you need to tell him that htey are going to put batteries up his butt.