Man Puts Up Billboard Ad Claiming His Ex Had Abortion

Gee, I wonder why she decided she didn’t want to raise a kid with this guy. He seems so nice…

If this is legal, I don’t think it should be. It’s one thing to air the dirty laundry of a public figure, it’s another thing to shove a woman into the national spotlight and tell everyone her deepest, darkest secrets (which this may or may not be, but for a lot of women, it definitely would be). We’re going to need to figure out a way to balance freedom of speech with a right to privacy, and quick. 

One of my friends stumbled across a copy of another friend’s OB/GYN medical records, and (nosily) found out a lot of things about her that I’m sure she doesn’t want everyone to know. What’s to stop my friend from taking out a billboard and making sure the whole world knows? Sure, she has a conscience, but a lot of people don’t… 

Anyone who knew them as a couple will know, and it’s only a matter of time before she’s outed on the internet and we can all join in to anonymously attack and shame her from the comfort of our own homes. Her Facebook pics will be attached to this story before the day is done, and then her mom, her boss, her priest, her new boyfriend, and her elementary school class-mates will all know (or think they know) that she had an abortion. 

If that picture of the billboard is it in its entirety, then I don’t see how Fultz’s ex-wife could have a case: she’s not explicitly mentioned in the billboard’s message.

Abortion is legal. People who follow the law should not be ashamed. 

I personally support this woman’s abortion. Who the hell would want to carry this hateful sot’s child to full term? Hell I’d be sick just knowing I had sex with him.

I’m kind of thinking this is how it will play out.  I’m not positive (the courts surprise me now and again), but, yeah.  It contains no personal information, and I’m not aware of any legal precedent regarding deduction from association (I’m sure at least a few people will know exactly who he is talking about despite the lack of a name).  That said, if the latter exists, that would change the game.

Actually, I believe there was a law discussed or maybe even passed in Kansas or Oklahoma (I think OK) that mandated hospitals keep an online log of individuals who received abortions.  Not names or specific addresses, but ages, employment, location, etc.  If that was struck down, this billboard might be found illegal.

I’m off to Google…

Adultery is legal, too, but that doesn’t mean cheating spouses shouldn’t be ashamed. I’m not saying a woman who has an abortion should feel ashamed, I just think your argument is faulty. 

Personally, I would be way more ashamed of letting this asshole knock me up than I would for having the abortion. 

I think it’s a lie we should pretend to believe, though.

Whoa, I stand corrected. Turns out it’s illegal in a couple dozen states. Not here in California though- does that mean if we cheat on our husbands, you should be ashamed, but I shouldn’t? That would definitely be a plus to living in a post-Puritan state. 

Why is that okay?  Because, legally, the priority is the welfare of the child.  If the man took custody despite not wanting the child to begin with, she would be forced to pay support.

There’s no way to make reproductive rights 100% fair and equal, as the man cannot carry a fetus and the baby doesn’t ask to be born.  There’s no way to correct that imbalance.

Something I actually would love to know, considering we have lots of people commented that thus-and-such is perfectly legal/within the law/illegal, etc… how many of us here are actually lawyers, and can legally pass on such information?
Not trying to start any fights or anything, just wondering honestly.  I work alongside lawyers, and I hear people saying a LOT that “my sister-in-law’s’ aunt’s cousin’s half-brother said this is illegal, so I want to sue!!”  So I’m just wondering how many people that have mentioned what’s legal and what’s not have the degree to back it up? 

What a dirt bag.  Why would THAT be something you want to dwell on…Just move on. Any way you look at it its just nasty.

Some things may fall within the law but:

What if a woman put up a billboard with pics of her and her child/children and they look poverty stricken and had it say “These children are living under the poverty level because their father does NOT pay child support…. technically that would fall under being legal also… just because something is legal dont make it morally right…

Sounds like he is a really vindictive person, if he werent, possibly they could have come to an agreement if he wanted a child so badly where she gave birth to it and he took care of it, sounds more like he is angry she is his ex now and just want to humiliate her and cause a big stink.

Again, if you have a miscarriage and it does not get expelled by your body, you will need to have an abortion. That’s what it shows up as in the medical records. I know, because I had one. If I hadn’t, I would have gotten an infection and could have died. My boyfriend at the time was convinced that there was a chance to save the baby, despite repeated ultrasounds, blood tests, etc, showing that the baby had died. He was convinced we could save the baby up until the point that I was admitted to the hospital. Some men are just incredibly dense.  And really with him behaving like this, I wouldn’t blame her if she *did* have an abortion. Who the hell wants to have a kid with someone who’s going to behave like that? 

In NC, a woman successfully sued her husbands mistress for “alienation of affection,” and got back a multi-million dollar settlement.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wife-wins-million-husbands-alleged-mistress/story?id=10151957

while i do think that what he did is pretty damn shitty, he is with in his rights. Its not like when a 17 year old spray paints i fucked jenn jones on the local park bench. The only people that are gonna know who the mother of his child is are the people that personaly know them. Yeah it still sucks but maybe his ex should have thought about what kind of asshole she was dating before she fucked him. I always stuck to a rule of thumb that if youe gonna have sex with this person even if it is protected sex you better be damned ready to but up with that person for the rest of your life because condoms break. Shame on him for putting up the sign and shame on her for having sex with him.

Why is everyone automatically assuming she lied about the miscarriage? I realize that often triflin’ bitches will do things like that, but not knowing this woman, can we at least believe for one second that maybe this man-child is just throwing a tantrum? If she’s lying, I honestly could not care less. I was just wondering why no one wants to believe that miscarriages do happen, especially to a woman who may not be as fertile as she once was at her age.

Thanks! *blush*

Oh shit. Well, there’s that then.

That’s awful! I had a friend go through this, and it’s one of the most difficult situations for a woman. Sorry your boyfriend was so dense. You deserved better support. 

Oh, I know. You guys were talking about adultery being illegal so I thought I’d just stick my word penis right on in there.

But yeah, I can’t imagine that they really punish that sort of thing the way they do other… actual crimes.

If their partners really didn’t want to have children, then they could have taken steps to avoid ever having children… Like having a vasectomy. When you really don’t want kids, it’s down right  despicable to abdicate your responsibility by leaving birth control to the other party. 

And yes, the man has no say, because the man is not carrying the child, and does none of the work to gestate a child. The man does not go through any of the discomfort or physical problems associated with being pregnant. A man does not risk his life when his partner gives birth. Labor can be dangerous (hell, pregnancy itself can be life threatening) and many women are left permanently scarred because of it.  Basically, he does none of the work, and shares in none of the risks or actual problems, and that is why he does not have equal rights to that child in utero. 

After the child is born, most of the responsibility of taking care of that child is entirely the mothers responsibility for at least the first year, and usually much longer than that. Breastfeeding is hard and exhausting work. That baby continues to need your nourishment for at least the first year, and you and your body work overtime to provide what the baby needs. 

 At the point when men can get spontaneously pregnant, and carry a child to term, then they can have equal rights. Until then, as long as the baby is in the mother, her rights should trump those of her child. (And trust me, socially speaking, as soon as you become pregnant, you basically become an incubator who looses damn near all rights to autonomy as far as most people are concerned. If you do *anything* that they deem is dangerous to the child you’re carrying, they will harangue you until you want to kill either them, or yourself. This is yet another joy of pregnancy that men do not have to endure.) 

hey think of it this way, it is a public service announcement not to ever ever let this man’s penis near your body if you are a woman..lol

Ah hell. That ‘ex’ definitely got the creep factor going all right posting a BILLBOARD about it – granted the whole nine yards is FUBAR’d, but damn…think that’s all I’m going to say about that.

Can’t make it illegal for putting women at risk doing it in back alleys with coat hangers and knitting needles…also makes a ‘man’ own a ‘woman’ in a sense – hold her hostage – if she is pregnant with his kid and she has no other recourse or choice…

Can I just say, you shouldn’t hold a 2 month old like that.  That’s how small babies get dropped. 

The singer Fantasia was just being sued for the same thing. 

She probably got an abortion because she didn’t want the baby looking like him. Obviously, that’s why he’s so pissed off.

You should call this guy up and chew his ass for that. It would be hilarious. You should record it. I bet you could make him cry.

Indeed.  What’s that thing he’s doing with his mouth, there?  He looks like he’s trying to find the most tender spot in which to take a big ol’ bite out of what he’s holding…  O.O

Pregnancy sucks anyway. :-p 

Plus there are plenty of children who need adopting if you wanted to be a mommy. 

I lost two babies in a row (one miscarriage, one stillbirth) and would have been PISSED and burned down the joint if they would have put it down in my file as a voluntary termination of pregnancy.

Could you imagine being a little baby, and looking at THAT mug smiling down at you creepily like that every day? That’s the shit nightmares are made of. Personally, I am mainly against abortion. She saved the baby a lot of nightmares, though, looking up at creepy grinning Dad every day.

That dude is fucking creepy! Take down the billboards!

Were you hoping to thwart off hackers to your Yahoo account when you came up with that ID?
 (Pssssttt….it’s your PASSWORD that needs to be 8 billion letters and characters….) 

Does this not violate her right to medical privacy?

I guess it depends on where you live. In my medical records it was called “spontaneous abortion” because the baby died for no discernible reason. Regardless, if you’re crazy enough to put up a billboard about it, you’re crazy enough to think that it wasn’t necessary or that every abortion means that you’re killing a baby, regardless of what the doctors or facts were. 

She was literally disintegrating in me, and it showed on the ultrasounds, and he still refused to believe me. He kept talking about how the guys at work said that they couldn’t hear the baby’s heartbeat until like 17 weeks with their kids or something, and my ex took that as the doctors must have been wrong. But they weren’t. It was an incredibly difficult and upsetting situation made worse by the attitude of my boyfriend at the time. Thankfully, the man I married is not like that. 

Rotting arm: He might, if some guy had told him that it could be saved. Not a medical professional or anything… But like, some random guy at work, or possibly his father… Those he’d believe despite all evidence to the contrary. There’s a reason why he is an ex.

I have a problem with abortions, mainly that when I got mine they wouldn’t even let me take it home in a jar afterward.

I am totally for this I’m not anti-abortion or anything but I do believe the only people that should be able to get them are the ones who really need them. The best examples I can think of are rape, incest, health risk. Anything else should be put up for adoption there are too many good people out there that cant have children that would love and care for your child even if you dont want it. Aborting a normal healthy child is just one of the most selfish things a person can do. In my opinion. P.S. Fu#k those scumbags at the Westboro Baptist Church!

Asshole speaking within his rights, just leave him be and move on.

Bad wording on my part. By spontaneously, I meant that they could be naturally impregnated by a female, regardless of it being planned or not. I do realize that women don’t get spontaneously pregnant… I’m on my third one at the moment. 

Men rarely exercise that control to the extent that women are basically required to, though. I reiterate that if a man really doesn’t want to have kids, then he should take actual steps to avoid having kids, instead of getting mad when his partner gets pregnant. I just read about a shot in India that renders a man infertile for 10 years, and thus far has been 100% effective, with 0 side effects. All it takes is two injections to the testicles. In comparison to the hoops that women have to jump through, with vastly detrimental health effects, that seems like a small price to pay if you don’t want progeny. 

That being said, abortion is legal. And if the woman doesn’t want to carry the child to term, then she should have that option. Personally, I’d rather see more abortions, than for women to keep having children that they don’t want, who then go and abuse, torture or kill those children. 

I’m so glad you exist. I was totally thinking this, but I was afraid someone’s panties would bunch.

I don’t blame her. Who would want to have a child with a fat ugly guy who doesn’t know enough not to split an infinitive.

Should a cheating spouse be ashamed? I don’t know. 

It is not for the law to decide if I should feel like a bitter left behind spouse/partner who wants to cause pain because someone stopped loving him or her… and that is definitely not a legal issue.

The law does not prescribe any direction for adultery any longer and it is up to the bitter left behind partner as to whether he or she (with repercussions) wants to punish someone because that someone stopped loving him or her.

I suggest you consult a lawyer before punishing a partner. That can be totally illegal.

Consider it no longer a law. If you want it off the books, enforce it once.

My husband seems to believe what his buddies tell before he believes me, too. At least as regards medical stuff. Not sure why that is. Iguess he thinks I overdramatize.

So, you’re equating children to cats & dogs?  Does that mean you believe that if they’re not adopted after a certain period of time, they should be euthanized, since obviously nobody wants them? 
Further… are you saying that raising a child costs as much as a cup of coffee? 

… color me confused…

Lets just say thats how the statement of “There are already plenty of children in the system who need good homes and don’t have them.” came across to me. Is it like we don’t have any room for more? I just cant wrap my head around her logic on this one becauste some of the fist kids to be adopted are newborns they are what people want the most. Plus she must have not understood my post to break out the health risk rebuttal.

Oh!! You should have stopped at the first line. It was so good, I stopped reading there. :p

It’s ok I have been known to rant as well. I only have one child myself and trust me i know the dangers of birthing first hand. Not only did I get shoulder locked when my mother gave birth to me but my son got shoulder locked when my wife gave birth to him. They had to break my collar bone to get me out and when my son was shoulder locked they didn’t have to break his but it almost killed my wife thankfully everything turned out ok but when my son was shoulder locked he wasnt able to breathe and my wife was in so much pain and losing so muck blood I really thought I was going to lose both of them that day.

This is true, but any man who has sex without a condom, even if he believes the woman is on the pill, needs to take responsibility for his actions.  One night of unprotected sex can lead to more than pregnancy and men have to take responsibility for their sexuality too, instead of expecting women to be on the pill, have an IUD, etc.  Even a woman on the pill can get pregnant if the hormones aren’t strong enough, or she doesn’t take it at the same time every day, etc.  So if a man doesn’t want children, he needs to wear a condom every single time he has sex, unless he’s doing women who are post menopausal or who have had a hysterectomy.  Just because she’s on the pill but doesn’t take it as prescribed doesn’t mean she’s not going to consider a pregnancy a gift from god or a miracle.  She could turn out to be militantly pro-life, but just wasn’t ready for children.

One of these days, we are going to have the pre-coital contract.  Where if a pregnancy occurs, both parties agree in advance as to what to do about it. 

Unfortunately some women like to play games.My brother’s ex-fiancee took off in the middle of the night while pregnant with his kid.She called a month later to tell him she had an abortion.Then she called him 6 months later to tell him she lied and she had the baby.It took 3 yrs of court wrangling but DNA testing was finally done and yes he is the father.Of course they were in different states but all he had was her word.

omg.  I’m not one for abortions for MYSELF, but good googly moogly, if HIS kid was swimming around inside me, I’d want it the fuck out of me, too!!!!!! YEEEESH.

That’s so funnybecause the first Facebook photo my husband posted of him holding our grandbaby he got a slew of “Don’t eat that baby “comments.Although he’s not a creepy version of Weird Al.

I am cracking up because I can so tell that you are ready for that baby to get out of you! The amazing part is when they lay that beautiful baby on top of you once they enter the world. All of the pain is worth it.

all moral/ethical issues aside… what this shlump did, protected free speech or not, was in really bad taste

Aren’t you on your third?Did I read that right?What about all the other children in the system that need good homes..Guess skipping on the condom was cheaper?

No,I’m giving her crap for babbling about all the children out there that could use good parenting,when she doesn’t follow up on it.She’s right,there’s tons of kids could use a good parent.Go get one of them and quit going on about it.

I bet that would have been an ugly baby.

Oh yeah, totally, meth too of course.  Wanna see my scars?  So, since I’m intense about the fact that people are insensitive jerks to others makes me a psychotic druggie?  Guess I better go on the state and collect disability, so I can sit at home all day and bitch on D’D…

Proof positive that “perfectly legal” can still mean “perfectly disgusting.”

This guy is a fucking psycho. No wonder she aborted his spawn. Can you say “pity sex?”. Jesus. However, if she did have a miscarriage, she can always sue him for slander. Might she also have a civil case for emotional distress, even if she did have the abortion? As has already been pointed out, everyone on town WILL know who he meant even if her name and picture weren’t used. The burden of proof is lower. You can still sue for emotional distress even if the act was protected speech, right?

In any case, I hate this fat, ugly, obvious WoW-playing loser.

it’s true. i do.

but an fyi – it’s not brazenness, it’s laziness. i couldn’t possibly keep up with multiple personalities.

but i’m sure you’re all too familiar with that huh, “ZEKE”? LOL how could we forget you pretending to be your own cousin to cheer you on through the posts, and “like” all the comments you were ranting at me about.

but i give all that cred to sugarglider, she was the one who ultimately scared you out of your hole and drove you into a confession about your multiple personality disorder.

Huh. All sentimentality aside, I think the guys a pompous ass.

Yeah, that was pretty funny. Zeke. lol.

First was a miscarriage, but I’m on my third pregnancy. I have one daughter. And I raised my younger siblings. In this country, we have a hard time becoming foster parents because the system here sucks fairly hardcore, and I’m a registered immigrant, and not a citizen. We don’t make enough money to pay for adoption at this point, but we have discussed at length that very option. I help where I can, the doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have my own children as well. 

I’ve raised my younger siblings, I sponsor a child, and once I get citizenship here fostering is not out of the question, nor is adoption, if we are financially better off. Again, I help where I can. That does not preclude me having my own children, as, you know, I actually take care of them. 

Whatever this cretin may be, notice he’s gotten the backing of some crap group, too.  A few words of approbation for the CANI and GEFNET? 

It’s unenforceable, again, because, legally, the focus is on the welfare of the child once it’s born.  I’m not sure, but I believe such contracts have already been tested in the courts.

Really?Meth?That explains quite a few things.I’ve seen a few people go down that road.If you’d like help with your problem I’m sure you can look up some good detox centers.As for going on disability..Well I just can’t condone it.Open up the news paper and look for a job.You already said above you had a daughter.Lets set a good example mum or else she could end up the one we read about on D’D. (If you find me a bit insenstive.I don’t see how that would be my problem)

Look,I’m all for this,but we’re still at my point.You’ve not adopted any kids of the sort.Despite your reasons.You’re simply having your own;How does that help them?It doesn’t.I’m pretty done with this except to say;If you’re not going to do anything about it.Just drop the subject entirely.Whatever you do DO,is nice and blahblahblah.However to the nitty gritty is you’re talking about something and saying how great it is,how people should do it,yet not doing it yourself.Quite hypocritical.I leave you with this.”Adopt it,or drop it.”.Insensitive of me?You bet.

Thanks prominent_prozac I didn’t realize the fury I had envoked.

I really feel for you, Jessica. What an awful time to go through, especially with NO support or kindness from her father.

He is absolutely HIDEOUS!   LOOK AT HIM!   Can you believe the kind of alien life forms that women allow between their legs?   He looks like a swamp creature!!!!!   Holy cow!   Can you imagine breeding with that?   *shudder*

If I was the woman in this situation, I would cringe. Anyone that knows him, knows who she is. She has the right to get an abortion, plain and simple. As for calling a miscarriage an abortion, mine at 17 was called “spontaneous abortion”. My brother saw the insurance paperwork, and called me a slut and whore, assuming I had an abortion. I set him straight, but felt guilty for years. That said, if I became pregnant tomorrow I would have an abortion ASAP, unless dh, (or father if I were single) wanted the baby. I would tell him about it, though.

If it was a misscarriage, he’s rubbing salt in her wounds. If she aborted him it was because of that douche-y shit streak on his upper lip he calls moustache.

Sorry to expound. I just genuinely believe our legal system needs to recognize a difference between free (even if uncomfortable or controversial or unpopular) speech and vindictively invading someone’s privacy for no legitimate purpose. I’m not sure where the line needs to be, but I do think there should be one. 

The ‘public’ doesn’t have a right to know every intimate detail of your life, particularly if you’re not a public figure. 

I’ve always made it clear to a guy how I would handle it if (God forbid) I did get pregnant. When I was younger, too young (I felt) to be a good mother, that was abortion. One guy actually ended up deciding we shouldn’t have sex, because he was religious and wasn’t willing to risk it. 

Fortunately, it turns out if you use birth control as directed, it actually does work. I will be eternally grateful to my mother for educating me about such things at a young age. 

“Anything else should be put up for adoption there are too many good people out there that cant have children that would love and care for your child even if you dont want it as long as it’s white.”

There, fixed that for ya. 

You Took the Words Right Out of my Mouth

LOL

That was a long time ago. Domino will never let me forget it, though.

I did that to discourage your trollism toward me, and because I was naive about commenting on blogs. Plus, some of it was funny, but not blog kosher.

Well, I could have come back on here and hidden behind a different identity, but I didn’t. I have been honest about it. Also, Zeke is not my cousin, but a dog I rescued.

Yeah, it was a mistake, but not as big of a one as you make it out to be. A lot of people laughed, and I like making people on this site laugh. There’s enough bad shit on here, anyways.

Personally, I think your derogatory attitude toward me is worse than me commenting as different characters. You have bigger problems than my personality disorder. 

I think it just bothers you that I came back on here, and was honest and up front about it. That’s why you always have to bring it up.

Wow, you so have me pegged; I am humbled and awed by your powers of observance, to say nothing of your pity and benevolence.  Hopefully it’s not too late for my poor daughter, so she doesn’t follow my horrible example and does something worthwhile with her life.  And why not go on the state, if I’m obviously disabled by the mental issues that you’ve diagnosed for me?  It seems to be the proper thing to do in this case…  *shrug*
(I’m not very good at sarcasm; I think you’re a self-centered egotistical insensitive prig, to make assumptions about me as well as others on this thread, but that would be rude to say out loud)
Have a nice day 

trolling is fine by me, but when you start routing for yourself, showing yourself affection, complimenting yourself, liking your own comments it’s no longer trolling.

there’s trolling and then there’s delusional

I’m Kaylara on the boards. For some reason it doesn’t sign me in as that here.  I already stated  that I wouldn’t have an abortion, unless it was endangering my life or the baby was very sick. Before I had my daughter, I wouldn’t have had one, regardless. But that doesn’t mean that I have any right to force other women to have children that they don’t want.  The people that I know who’ve made the decision to have an abortion, I support 100%. I even drove them to their appointments. But before they made their final decision, I also told them that if they wanted to have the baby, I would adopt it and support it 100%. They made their decision. The only thing I can do is offer a real alternative to them, instead of some vaguely reasoned “someone will adopt them” kind of argument. And I absolutely would have adopted those kids. However, in the end, it’s not my decision to make, period. Not unless it’s my pregnancy. 

And for the record, I’m a Pagan, and don’t really feel it’s my place to push my morality on *anyone*. I really do have to laugh at the very idea of a self identified Satanist trying to play the morality card, when that morality has nothing to do with Satanism, and then using it as a label to state how immoral they are, and if they know it’s wrong, wow, it must be really wrong. Well, I hate to tell you, but that’s not how Satanism works. But that’s definitely how Christianity works. 

I already raised my siblings who are all adults now. I didn’t adopt them because the parents involved in the situation would not allow it. They may not legally be my kids, and I may not have pushed them out of my body, but those are MY kids. I took care of them from the time they were born, and continue to do so into their respective adulthoods. I’ve taken care of them since I was 8 years old, sacrificing most of my childhood, teen and adult years to take care of them because someone had to do the job, and because I love them. As soon as I was able to get a job, I did so, and then started supporting them financially. Something that continues to this day. I’m sorry, but I’ve done this for over 20 years, and I’m not even 30 yet. And I’d do it again in a heartbeat if it kept those kids from having to suffer for one single minute. Again, this doesn’t preclude me having my own children. Why should I suggest that women who don’t want their children be forced to have them against their will? I’ve already seen where that shit leads. I help where I can, what, exactly, do you do? Since you are filled with moral indignation that I would dare think we shouldn’t add to our foster children because we can’t find good homes for the ones that we already have, or that a woman should have rights over her own body, or perhaps even that I’d rather see a child aborted than live a life of abject suffering.  Again, I take care of my children. I take care of other people’s children if I can, and I will continue to do so in the future. If you’re not doing at least the same as I in that respect, than your moral indignation is utterly meaningless.

I TROLLOLOLED YOU??

the whole “thing” started because i simply showed up and got  into it with another poster, and their e-buddies were lolmad (you were one of those people … oh and your other self zeke) it definitely was a situation that cemented this place in my heart.

and me thinks you read waaay way too deeply into shit. but i’ll be honest, if you didn’t…. addressing you would be absolutely no fun.

And you can apply to be this POS’ girlfriend right here.

http://www.greg.fultz.com/gfapp/app.html

yep out of no where and out of context i brought it up.

LOL lets not forget in your op you tried to say it’s me who’s on another account trolling on their other account – i found that funny since you’re all too familiar with it, and you are, it’s just fact. you are waaaay too cozy with the whole alter ego thing.

trick me? you’re right. i’d never in a million years think someone would go into such theatrics to make themselves look better. you pretended to be your own cousin ffs WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE NAME OF YOUR DOG LOLOLOL (in one post you screamed to zeke and told him how amazing he was for rescuing the dog and that i was a terrible bitch) that’s not trolling buddy, that’s just out right insane, literally.

and lets not forget after you were outted you then became paranoid that i was several posters trying to cause trouble and started warning all your friends that because me and a few other’s were using slang like “fail” and “fail clouds” and “epic” – that we were all the same person! i mean good god lol you had yourself a nervous breakdown – that you caused yourself!

it was most certainly epic. but more so because you brought it all on yourself – you told on yourself and you tortured yourself. it doesn’t really get any better than that.

I wouldn’t blame her if she did honestly. He seems like a total b*stard and I wouldn’t want to give him access to a kid.

Young women/girls are coming forward on other coms and claiming this guy was well known for stalking 10-13 year old girls in the Neopets community even as long as a decade ago.  Creepy pedo shouldn’t be holding any babies

W-O-W!  I didn’t think it was literal! Browsing through all of his answer options, he creeps me out.

I support a right to abortion, however I still feel that the majority of them are irresponsible in nature. I mean we KNOW what causes pregnancy now. Some simple precautions can prevent it in the first place.

Did I miss something Jessica said that leads you too believe she can’t take care of her own kids? Or are you saying that she’s a bad person because she bore her own children rather than adopting a pre-existing one?

Because I can’t seem to reply to any of the BS filling my inbox and I just don’t really care anymore since this was yesterdays news..(No really it is..Just look above) D: ..Here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0QNE

(Yes,there’s a lotta sarcasm in everything previously said,and yes..It’ll most likely continue.)

um…looking at the ex-boyfriend…I can see why she aborted. Who would want an ugly baby? The ex-BF looks kind of child molestery.

i know. i know. with people like you “making someone mad” is trolling.
i’ve got to admit, i’ve never had more fun being me than surrounded by a
crowd of people like you. too easy, it’s easier than trolling – no
material needed, just speak your mind.

oh and if you were looking
for the high road.. yeeah, you missed that a long time ago lol even
after morbid emphasized it was all a joke, princess.

nothing could
truly diffuse a situation with you ….. not unless i disclaimed
every single sentence and used a bunch of smiley’s and jk’s after every
jab (think i puked in my mouth a little ….. orange juice is terrible
the second time around) fuck, i’d have to wrap each word with cotton and
dump baby powder on it to insure it didn’t give you a fucking rash.

think i’ll take my chances. TEE HEE

I think his face and body is also a good PSA for that. lol

@Domino94:disqus Double penetration!!

No, he doesn’t.  Any logic he’s used to formulate his ass backward opinion ran out some time ago.

I just don’t understand how someone excuses abortion to spare the mother pain but not to spare the child pain.  I just don’t see how the former is fine but the latter is selfish.

But, what do I know?  I’ll just pop my smock back on and head back into the slaughterhouse. lololol.

Clicks “ignore” button.

I understand how tempting it is for people to have socks (i.e. sockpuppet accounts), but I never pegged you for a puppeteer.  I don’t know why anyone would even DARE sockpuppet DD.  That’s just stupid, LOL.

It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

Should have waited to read this.

Should have waited to read this.

To House

You’re absolutely right, House. I was ignorant about commenting on sites back then. I have admitted I got carried away with it. Domino keeps bringing it up, she wants everyone to know. Oh well, I don’t care, I already apologized for it.

At least I had the balls to come on here six months later as myself, knowing I would hear about it from her. Half of that is exaggeration anyway. Like saying I said she was that poster above. Yet, if you read my post, I clearly didn’t say that.

See, I’m pikeman and company, now. At least I have a sense of humor about it.

To House

You’re absolutely right, House. I was ignorant about commenting on sites back then. I have admitted I got carried away with it. Domino keeps bringing it up, she wants everyone to know. Oh well, I don’t care, I already apologized for it.

At least I had the balls to come on here six months later as myself, knowing I would hear about it from her. Half of that is exaggeration anyway. Like saying I said she was that poster above. Yet, if you read my post, I clearly didn’t say that.

See, I’m pikeman and company, now. At least I have a sense of humor about it.

“In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

“In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

“In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

To the Count

DP is my initials. Apparently Domino knows who I am. BFD, it’s no secret, anyways.

All this is stupid. I already said I was done arguing with other posters. So I was new to commenting and made a mistake. Get over it already, people.

Before I start on my usual “This is what the cat thinks” blathering, I think you ought to read his Twitter.

http://i.imgur.com/xg8sW.jpg  
https://twitter.com/#!/prdpgn
(BTW, the quote he writes at the top of his Twitter means “If I wanted your opinion, I’d read your entrails.”)

and his idiotic Designed in ’95 website that has the “apply to be my girlfriend” application on it:

http://www.greg.fultz.com/

And regardless of whether you all think this is “free speech” (and despite the wholesale bullshit that SCOTUS ate up from WBC’s full-of-shit mouths), it’s still harassment (which is what the judge found as well).

Also, the billboard DID have her first name on it, as the acronym for his fake organization.  Her name is Nani.  Here is an article with the photo of the billboard that says “NANI” on it:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/07/abortion-billboard-could-mean-jail-for-ex-boyfriend/

Yes, I’ve seen the one with “CANI” on it, too.  

And if this information is false, it’s also libel.  ”Nani” is a private citizen (as private as we can measure here with the world of the internets;  despite the fact that thousands of people know her name now, she is not a public figure and *does* enjoy certain protections against libel and slander that public figures don’t.  She can sue for distress.  Defamation shouldn’t be hard to prove either with the “N.A.N.I.” sign, and when you factor in his *intent*, well, then you have a fucktard who doesn’t understand the legal limitations we have on “free” speech.    (“Free speech” doesn’t apply to everything -the common man- says or writes, so…let’s try to remember that.)

This is the New Mexico criminal libel code, BTW:

30-11-1. Libel.

Libel consists of making, writing, publishing, selling or circulating without good motives and justifiable ends, any false and malicious statement affecting the reputation, business or occupation of another, or which exposes another to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace.

Whoever commits libel is guilty of a misdemeanor.

The word “malicious,” as used in this article, signifies an act done with evil or mischievous design and it is not necessary to prove any special facts showing ill-feeling on the part of the person who is concerned in making, printing, publishing or circulating a libelous statement against the person injured thereby.

A. A person is the maker of a libel who originally contrived and either executed it himself by writing, printing, engraving or painting, or dictated, caused or procured it to be done by others.

B. A person is the publisher of a libel who either of his own will or by the persuasion or dictation, or at the solicitation or employment for hire of another, executes the same in any of the modes pointed out as constituting a libel; but if anyone by force or threats is compelled to execute such libel he is guilty of no crime.

C. A person is guilty of circulating a libel who, knowing its contents, either sells, distributes or gives, or who, with malicious design, reads or exhibits it to others.

D. The written, printed or published statement to come within the definition of libel must falsely convey the idea either:

(1) that the person to whom it refers has been guilty of some penal offenses;
(2) that he has been guilty of some act or omission which, though not a penal offense, is disgraceful to him as a member of society, and the natural consequence of which is to bring him into contempt among honorable persons;
(3) that he has some moral vice or physical defect or disease which renders him unfit for intercourse with respectable society, and as such should cause him to be generally avoided;
(4) that he is notoriously of bad or infamous character; or
(5) that any person in office or a candidate therefor is dishonest and therefore unworthy of such office, or that while in office he has been guilty of some malfeasance rendering him unworthy of the place.

E. It shall be sufficient to constitute the crime of libel if the natural consequence of the publication of the same is to injure the person defamed although no actual injury to his reputation need be proven.

F. No statement made in the course of a legislative or judicial proceeding, whether true or false, although made with intent to injure and for malicious purposes, comes within the definition of libel.

———–

Before I start on my usual “This is what the cat thinks” blathering, I think you ought to read his Twitter.

http://i.imgur.com/xg8sW.jpg  
https://twitter.com/#!/prdpgn
(BTW, the quote he writes at the top of his Twitter means “If I wanted your opinion, I’d read your entrails.”)

and his idiotic Designed in ’95 website that has the “apply to be my girlfriend” application on it:

http://www.greg.fultz.com/

And regardless of whether you all think this is “free speech” (and despite the wholesale bullshit that SCOTUS ate up from WBC’s full-of-shit mouths), it’s still harassment (which is what the judge found as well).

Also, the billboard DID have her first name on it, as the acronym for his fake organization.  Her name is Nani.  Here is an article with the photo of the billboard that says “NANI” on it:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/07/abortion-billboard-could-mean-jail-for-ex-boyfriend/

Yes, I’ve seen the one with “CANI” on it, too.  

And if this information is false, it’s also libel.  ”Nani” is a private citizen (as private as we can measure here with the world of the internets;  despite the fact that thousands of people know her name now, she is not a public figure and *does* enjoy certain protections against libel and slander that public figures don’t.  She can sue for distress.  Defamation shouldn’t be hard to prove either with the “N.A.N.I.” sign, and when you factor in his *intent*, well, then you have a fucktard who doesn’t understand the legal limitations we have on “free” speech.    (“Free speech” doesn’t apply to everything -the common man- says or writes, so…let’s try to remember that.)

This is the New Mexico criminal libel code, BTW:

30-11-1. Libel.

Libel consists of making, writing, publishing, selling or circulating without good motives and justifiable ends, any false and malicious statement affecting the reputation, business or occupation of another, or which exposes another to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace.

Whoever commits libel is guilty of a misdemeanor.

The word “malicious,” as used in this article, signifies an act done with evil or mischievous design and it is not necessary to prove any special facts showing ill-feeling on the part of the person who is concerned in making, printing, publishing or circulating a libelous statement against the person injured thereby.

A. A person is the maker of a libel who originally contrived and either executed it himself by writing, printing, engraving or painting, or dictated, caused or procured it to be done by others.

B. A person is the publisher of a libel who either of his own will or by the persuasion or dictation, or at the solicitation or employment for hire of another, executes the same in any of the modes pointed out as constituting a libel; but if anyone by force or threats is compelled to execute such libel he is guilty of no crime.

C. A person is guilty of circulating a libel who, knowing its contents, either sells, distributes or gives, or who, with malicious design, reads or exhibits it to others.

D. The written, printed or published statement to come within the definition of libel must falsely convey the idea either:

(1) that the person to whom it refers has been guilty of some penal offenses;
(2) that he has been guilty of some act or omission which, though not a penal offense, is disgraceful to him as a member of society, and the natural consequence of which is to bring him into contempt among honorable persons;
(3) that he has some moral vice or physical defect or disease which renders him unfit for intercourse with respectable society, and as such should cause him to be generally avoided;
(4) that he is notoriously of bad or infamous character; or
(5) that any person in office or a candidate therefor is dishonest and therefore unworthy of such office, or that while in office he has been guilty of some malfeasance rendering him unworthy of the place.

E. It shall be sufficient to constitute the crime of libel if the natural consequence of the publication of the same is to injure the person defamed although no actual injury to his reputation need be proven.

F. No statement made in the course of a legislative or judicial proceeding, whether true or false, although made with intent to injure and for malicious purposes, comes within the definition of libel.

———–

No, see, it doesn’t really matter what actually happened.  The plaintiff must be able to prove that the defendant knowingly spread falsehoods, generally speaking.  Unless he was actually at the hospital or doctor’s appointment with her when it was stated that she had a miscarriage, he may be able to prove that he had reason to believe she was lying about it being a miscarriage instead of an abortion.  

And, uh… I know they *can* sue (there was a “successfully” implied, there).  I’m saying it’s a difficult win, even when all the pieces are there. You’d know that if you’ve been “eyeballs deep” in defamation suits.  They are expensive (although she might get pro-choice groups offering assistance in this area) and unsuccessful in about 90% of cases.  In the successful cases, damages are small.  Of course, the fact that she isn’t specifically identified means she may not even have a case to pursue to begin with.  

No, see, it doesn’t really matter what actually happened.  The plaintiff must be able to prove that the defendant knowingly spread falsehoods, generally speaking.  Unless he was actually at the hospital or doctor’s appointment with her when it was stated that she had a miscarriage, he may be able to prove that he had reason to believe she was lying about it being a miscarriage instead of an abortion.  

And, uh… I know they *can* sue (there was a “successfully” implied, there).  I’m saying it’s a difficult win, even when all the pieces are there. You’d know that if you’ve been “eyeballs deep” in defamation suits.  They are expensive (although she might get pro-choice groups offering assistance in this area) and unsuccessful in about 90% of cases.  In the successful cases, damages are small.  Of course, the fact that she isn’t specifically identified means she may not even have a case to pursue to begin with.  

The stupid little bitch owns “GEFNET” and has posted this on its “company’s” FB wall as of May 17:

“I want to let my clients know that regarding recent events alot of lies and malicious attacks have been launched against me. I assure you none of which are true. If you wish to know something about me or how i handle my business you are more then welcome to contact me and ask me privately. This is the cost one pays for standing up for something you strongly believe in. Thank you for your continued support.May 17 at 7:44am”LOL, yeah, so…none of it is true!

The stupid little bitch owns “GEFNET” and has posted this on its “company’s” FB wall as of May 17:

“I want to let my clients know that regarding recent events alot of lies and malicious attacks have been launched against me. I assure you none of which are true. If you wish to know something about me or how i handle my business you are more then welcome to contact me and ask me privately. This is the cost one pays for standing up for something you strongly believe in. Thank you for your continued support.May 17 at 7:44am”LOL, yeah, so…none of it is true!

http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

“Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

…Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

(P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

“The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.
…
Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

“All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

“There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

“She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

———-

So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

“Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

…Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

(P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

“The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.
…
Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

“All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

“There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

“She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

———-

So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

“Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

…Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

(P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

“The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.
…
Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

“All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

“There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

“She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

———-

So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

John, what in the fuck is this shit? This is one of the most disturbing things I have ever heard of. Literally every minute we are finding out about more and more crazy things this guy has done. He’s fucking obsessed with a developmentally disabled 18 year old. Wow. For some reason I find this guy to be so creepy in an almost dangerous way. I just can’t even imagine what in the fuck goes on in this guy’s head. Holy shit.

It doesn’t always work. Want proof? My two kids. haha

DOUBLE YOU TEE EFF?

Hey there, Rackula.

Since this site went down in the midst of me posting, I’m finding more and more shit about this fucking…piece of shit psycho bastard that it’s making me a bit ill…but I’ll get through it (his blog is endless and his temper and stalking is evident).

Nani, the girl (whose name is everywhere now), posted on a baby site this message almost a year ago:

“Posted 06/15/2010
Me and my bf are expecting, and we’re excied but it took me coaxing. At first, I was concerned about how I would be able to take care of my child. Let me explain….when I was 7, I went into a coma, and it left me with many ‘issues’. I lose my balance easily, I am paralyzed on the left side of the face, and it is hard to understanernd me sometimes. But the most concerning thing of all, I have severe tremors. I will have surgery to try to correct this when I’m 21, but by the time I give birth I’ll only be 20. Not to mention the fact that I have been hurt so many times due to my weight that the idea of extra is unbearable. My bf is 15 years older than me and has been told he could never have children. So, of course he always wanted to keep it. It was so unplanned and I’m so unprepared(and I’m against abortion unless you’ve been raped) that the first thing I thought was ‘I’ll give it up for adoption.’ But his want for a kid compelled him to talk me into it. But after talking to my parents, I’ve gone back to my initial concerns. If you knew me, you’d know it kills me to do anything that might PO or hurt someone’s feelings. How do I bring it up? Also my mom was saying that I could give it up and let him adopt it. Would that make a completely horrible person?”

I guess I didn’t link it here yet, but this guy “dated” another young one for a very brief time and then the day after he announced they were an official couple she told him to fuck off.  He didn’t take that well, and posted their AIM conversation:

http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2009/07/single-mom-against-world_03.html

I would guess that “no”, “fuck off” and “leave me alone” aren’t in his realm of comprehension.

I’m sure there’s more shit like this in his journal, but I’m just sick of the sick-assed misogynistic bullshit jokes he likes to share.  I’m stuck reading the thousands of comments here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/alamogordo-nm/TNKT2P0L7TL6M52P9/p11

I don’t know which page I’m on but damn it, I WILL read every freaking comment!

Say what now?  Linkies, please?

I guess I would have to have a vagina to have any say on this matter. Sorry for making you bleed from yours.

And just think, he created that page years AFTER he did this to his ex:

http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2004/03/everybody-everybody-i-tell-you-what.html

Oh dear, it sure sounds like HE too is “developmentally disabled”.  Listen to him talk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-smDo8PXpF4

Also, he’s not even a real Reverend.  He admits to it:

http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2009/03/universal-life-church-ulc.html 

Good G-d WTF did that poor kid Nani get herself into???

Go to his YouTube and listen to him speak.  I think he’s developmentally fucked up.

…Not that that makes all of his fucking behavior excusable.  I think he truly believes that what he’s doing is right, but he’s a literal moron and a sociopathic/psychopathic one to boot.

ETA: IT NEVER ENDS. He beat up on his ex-wife, too:

http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2003/08/well-i-went-to-court-today-over-my.html

At least this is a refreshing change from the guys who whine about not wanting the baby and the mother “selfishly” deciding to have the baby and make him pay child support.
Guys, either way, you want her to have the baby or you don’t, you could prevent pesky matters like this by PUTTING ON A DAMN RUBBER EVERY TIME!!!!   Yeah yeah I know, you “can’t feel it as well” but is 5 to 7 minutes of this worth a heavy decision like this?  (And don’t even try to argue the length of time, I timed you, I know how long it lasts)

…Is this guy serious?  

http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2003_10_01_archive.html

LOLOLOL YOU CRAZY ASS ARE THE VOICES AT IT AGAIN???! DP IS SLANG FOR DOUBLE POST/DOUBLE PENETRATION. NOT YOUR INITIALS OMFG LOL I’M DIEING! yeah. whew buddy, you’ve got some issues.

it was a joke aimed at count, since there was a previous joke about that.

but thank you, thank you for the good laugh

i always knew you were Bezelbub

ahh boobies…… i knew that word was in here soemwhere….

CAN I shoot this fucktard?

theres lots of empty space out there, and maybe even loving parents for kids, unfortunately DD shows us just a slice of those who dont care and how many rotten scumbags walk this earth

I can’t wade through this all…Athena, give it to me quick, what about right to privacy and freedom from harassment? No recourse there?

Scratch that. Okay. I’m mostly caught  up. She should still be able to sue for infliction of the emotional distress…I think. Unless I’m missing something.

Ah, cheers! It was all pretty funny, sorry to say so, Pikeman. Zeke the dog/cousin, Zeke the dog who was in fact named after the cousin. Which was confusing for everyone, since they all lived in the same house. Yeah, those were good times.

But, oh well. It WAS ages ago…

This psycho looks like he’s going to eat the fake baby shape he’s, um, holding.

LOL. When I was living in Scotland one semester, I made my husband mail me a big bottle of Ranch dressing. Heavy/expensive to ship…but I missed it.

This guy is a sick fucker…

Hmm…maybe Obama can use that in an anti-terrorism slogan.

He IS bipolar (said it somewhere in his blog, if someone else already mentioned this…sorry).  However I don’t find that a valid excuse for his writing style, unless he is manic and under (non) medicated.

If a man doesn’t want a baby there are things that can be done help lessen those chances. Condoms for one, not 100% effected but better than just going bare back with a girl who may or may not be on birth control. Not good enough and still horny, ask her to suck you off. Just remember to return the favor.  

Hey John… did you happen to come across the blog entry from the girlfriend written at the time she was pregnant??? I thought i had saved the link but apparently not. It’s very telling from her point of view… she talks about her disability, her fear about carrying to term safely and his joy over the pregnancy overriding any concern for her health (MY interpretation). If you did happen across it and can link that would be awesome… when i get back later today I’m going to backtrack and look for it…..

Athena, you DON’T have to prove tangible loss.  And yes, I have been deep in the Canadian (and one U.S.) libel accusations.***

1)  Proving him a liar will NOT be hard at all, given his past  and what he’s doing to Nani.  Have you not read his blog?  Did you not read the Topix threads?  

2)  YES, she WAS named in the billboard.  Are yo just too stubborn to read what I write or Hell, even research it yourself?

3)  For the second time in this post to reiterate and to emphasize, *you do not have to prove tangible loss* in order to get relief from someone  in a libel and defamation lawsuit.  I mean damn, just about every definition of libel that I’ve read includes something to this effect (this is California’s definition., but New Mexico has criminal libel on the books):  ”A libel is a defamation expressed in written or other graphic form that tends to blacken the memory of the dead or that tends to injure a living person’s reputation and thereby expose the person to public hatred, contempt or ridicule, or financial injury or to impeach any person’s honesty, integrity, virtue, or reputation.” 

Do you read that?  Do you see the “or”s in that sentence?  I.e., YOU DON’T NEED TO PROVE “tangible” or loss.  What you’re yammering on about has no application in this case (though it has applications in the cases I’m involved in in Canada;  the claimant thinks that we’re all libelling him and causing his business to lose money because of it [actually, this is the same idea that another guy who I'm sure is on the verge of accusing the animal rights groups of doing in protesting his puppy mill puppy business...he's starting to peep up about possible libel/defamation crap, and I do NOT look forward to that]).  And to prove something libellous/defamatory and be able to seek relief, in Nani’s case, all she has to do is prove that *some form* of damage occurred from the published statement, and it can be tangible like job or money, OR the damage may have been intangible such as the loss of reputation and respect in a community (more “or”s…I’m sure it’s confusing to you, but them’s the facts).  Nani should have no problem proving that this is nothing but a heinous vendetta against her, with Greg’s record of lies, OTHER vendettas and rage (AND he has a record for this and other things).

I’m done with you on this topic.  I have explained what I can.  If you cannot comprehend libel law (libel & defamation law) and you think that *I* can’t and I’ve just been making up shit, then good fucking luck to you.  I’m tired of talking to a brick wall, and you can believe what you want about the shit I’ve done with these lawsuits on my end (I know you’re a mod or whatever, but you know what?  You’re not right on this.).

***FTR, I was able to get the fucker in Canada to BACK OFF from the woman in Florida who he was threatening a libel/defamation suit against by telling the asshole that he had to come down here to the U.S. to file his suit since U.S. citizens don’t have to give a shit about libel/defamation suits filed against them in Canada or any other country that doesn’t have good “First Amendment” or “First Amendment”-like protections for its citizens.

Yes, I have a screencap of it and save the page.  ;)  Let me upload the screencap…I blocked out her name and face on it because it’s got her last name and her face, so…just a sec, I have to find where I put it, LOL.

i cant even begin to count the ways i love you right now…. thank you thank you!!!!!

Nope, you’re right, John.  I had missed this entirely.  The fact that there’s more than the billboard involved and that the billboard did identify her (I believe that’s what you said), then, yes, she absolutely has a case.

I was basing my opinion on it only being a billboard that did not identify her.

We agreed all along that the dude is a psycho. though.

Sorry MIS Santhropic I should never have responded to Jessica in the first place. I should have just let her have her say eventhough I didn’t agree with it. Thats how the world works these days anyway.

Good to see you commenting again Sugarglider before my disqus crapped out a few months ago I had not seen you in a long time.

No problemo. 

BTW, you can’t search her posts on BabyCenter unless you’re a member I don’t think, so I had to do it via Google.  AFAIK, she didn’t even have that many posts at all before they stopped.  She did write that she believed that she got pregnant on May 1st last year and was due in late January, which would’ve made this asshole’s billboard two months off as it is (if the billboard went up in May).

Also, still reading through his mess of a blog.  I don’t think he understands how to use real punctuation.

I’m waiting for it, too.  I fucking despise attention-whoring baby men who abuse women like this.  He should feel extremely lucky that he even GOT to stick his dick into someone of the female persuasion, given how fucking fugly and “slow” the guy is (and toothless…I want to say I could blame his “slow” sound in his videos to his lack of teeth, but I can’t because I know of too many people without teeth (my ex-roomate, for one) who sounds perfectly normal when they speak.  Fultz has a full set of fake teeth, AFAIK).

This guy is so fucking ugly on the inside that it just couldn’t wait to burst out…I bet that’s why his teeth wanted out so badly, LOL

Hey Dead If I were a woman and I got prego by this ug meister I would have an abortion to.  After I had said abortion I prolly could not live with myself thinking about this greezmeister and hang myself shortly there after. or turn gay.

lol let the games begin…. i’ll bring the beer

Yeah, I’d love to deeply research every article that gets posted, but I just can’t.  So thanks for that.

Oh, and sorry for the pissy mood last night.  I’m the matron of honor in a September wedding, and the bride showed up to my house and promptly melted DOWN.  I mistakenly posted after a bottle of anesthetizing wine.  I envy you men for never having to deal with a bridezilla… especially those who never have to marry one, either.  The upside is that her visits always remind my husband of just how lucky he is.

I think what gets me the most about this guy is his overwhelming ego…. that fact that he has continuously posted all this ‘material’ and somehow thinks it makes him look righteous…. One would think at some point you would look back at it all and think “maybe its me?”. 

I came to the same conclusion after following along as far as i could stand it… which wasnt very long admittedly…  he obviously targets women he thinks SHOULD be grateful he has targetted  ooops i mean CHOSEN them and at the first sign of discord he erupts into rage…. 

the hits just keep on coming w this guy… unreal

This man is creepy to look at and an obvious ass:
“I’d love to know all the places you see my story in so mention me and the place to let me know all of the corners of the world that I’m in.”

He’s using his ex’s miscarriage or abortion (I wasn’t there I can’t say which it was but I’m betting it really was a miscarriage; either way he’s a heinous piece of shyte) as a fucking publicity stunt… fuck him with a hurricane of giant steel horse cocks.

Fuck him for using the loss of a child this way and fuck him for cheapening what men who really did want to have a baby that was aborted go through.

Weird, why does he want to go to jail, do you think? Is he just such a douchetard that he actually thinks he’s waging some sort of “Cause”?

Two unrelated things:

(a) I’m curious to know how much it cost the dumbass douche to rent the billboard space.

(b) Not that it matters, but it sounds to me (from his own words) like she actually did have a miscarriage, and that there’s not actually any reason for him to be saying anything about abortion — apart from his interest in harassing her.

wow!! He paid for a billboard sign, b/c he’s pissed!! Cool!!! That’s what’s up!! That’s kinda pricey, I wonder if she regrets her decision, sounds like he could’ve paid for the baby either way, I’m jus sayin………………….

There is no way Greg would’ve been able to care for that child.  He is often jobless, sometime homeless and always bouncing from home to home.

She doesn’t regret any decision (AFAIK) besides hooking up with the asshole in the first place.  Some of her friends stated that she behaved “relieved” when she wasn’t pregnant anymore (likely because of her health…she’s developmentally disabled).  The friends around Greg say he’s got his own disabilities, but I wouldn’t say so.  He’s just got an awful speech impediment.  The rest of him works fine, aside from being a psychotic animal-killing ex-girlfriend stalker.

Go read his blog if you want to know just how awesomely sweet this fucker really is.

Google “GEFBLOG” and you’ll find it.  His Twitter has some real gems too (his user name is prdpgn ).

I did!!! Apparently, I’m just way too fertile.

The original used her name as initials for his phony organization. This creep is dangerous & FTR, there is no proof that his victim aborted.

Thanks for posting all this. Fuck’s sake…what a psycho creepazoid. Add dog-killer to the list. And, indeed, it seems that really she probably just had a miscarriage; he’s just pissed because she doesn’t want to be in touch with him. *STALKER.* Yeah, add stalker to his list of undesirable qualities. He can’t believe he ever got someone to fuck him, and now he thinks he owns her. Nice fella.