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ALAMOGORDO, N.M. — Currently, motorists on Alamogordo’s main thoroughfare are being treated to a billboard from a man saying his ex-girlfriend had an abortion against his wishes.

The (creepy) sign shows 35-year-old Greg Fultz holding the outline of an infant. The text reads, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-Month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child!”

As you can imagine, this has stirred up quite the debate. The ex in question has taken Fultz to court for harassment and violation of privacy in an effort to have the sign taken down, but Fultz’s attorney says removing the sign would violate his client’s right to free speech.

“As distasteful and offensive as the sign may be to some, for over 200 years in this country the First Amendment protects distasteful and offensive speech,” Todd Holmes said.

The ex-girlfriend’s attorney counters this by saying her client’s right to privacy has been violated and the billboard has caused severe emotional distress. She adds that she has no issue with Fultz arguing for father’s rights, just not at the expense of someone else’s private life.

Friends of the woman are saying she didn’t have an abortion, that she had a miscarriage. Obviously, if this were true the billboard would be really, really illegal. But Holmes says his case is based off his client’s claims that his ex had an abortion and he believes his client. He also believes the high court’s decision to allow the notorious Westboro Baptist Church to hold their ridiculous protests will help him ensure the billboard stays up.

“The Supreme Court, in an 8 to 1 decision, said that [very unpopular offensive speech] is protected speech.”

I’m sure we can turn the discussion into one based around a father’s rights in regards to abortions (a situation I was in at one time, so I feel for the guy) but what do you think? Do you feel Fultz is within his legal rights to post the ad?

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  • Anonymous

    Her name and face are not listed on the billboard – it is absolutely protected by free speech

  • Anonymous

    Gee, I wonder why she decided she didn’t want to raise a kid with this guy. He seems so nice…

    If this is legal, I don’t think it should be. It’s one thing to air the dirty laundry of a public figure, it’s another thing to shove a woman into the national spotlight and tell everyone her deepest, darkest secrets (which this may or may not be, but for a lot of women, it definitely would be). We’re going to need to figure out a way to balance freedom of speech with a right to privacy, and quick. 

    One of my friends stumbled across a copy of another friend’s OB/GYN medical records, and (nosily) found out a lot of things about her that I’m sure she doesn’t want everyone to know. What’s to stop my friend from taking out a billboard and making sure the whole world knows? Sure, she has a conscience, but a lot of people don’t… 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZENRPFCAZJWCM35HLJ7343FAYA Anonymous

     agreed! she needs to get over herself. we know it’s not that she miscarried b/c that’s not what they are protesting. they are protesting privacy which was NOT breached. if she told her friends she miscarried then she’s ashamed of what she did and will need to own up to her actions, including lying to them. 

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who knew them as a couple will know, and it’s only a matter of time before she’s outed on the internet and we can all join in to anonymously attack and shame her from the comfort of our own homes. Her Facebook pics will be attached to this story before the day is done, and then her mom, her boss, her priest, her new boyfriend, and her elementary school class-mates will all know (or think they know) that she had an abortion. 

  • Count Rackula

    Wow. I wouldn’t have wanted to be attached via kid to this asshole for 18 years, either. But that’s pretty fucked up that he would just believe that she had an abortion if she’s saying it was a miscarriage. I’m sure that could be proven with her medical records (whether or not she actually had an abortion), but she shouldn’t have to do that. This guy is a fucking weirdo and I’m sure this woman is extremely glad she’s (hopefully) no longer with him. I have no idea what I’d even do in this situation. I’m thinking my ex would probably come home to a crispy house.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=105102733 Erik Brown

    If that picture of the billboard is it in its entirety, then I don’t see how Fultz’s ex-wife could have a case: she’s not explicitly mentioned in the billboard’s message.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Magdalena-Richards/564560123 Magdalena Richards

    Unfortunately it is completely within the law as there is no name or picture of the woman in question. I feel for the guy, I really do, but this definitely puts him down as Douchey McDoucherson for life. And since it’s true and no names were used, she can’t sue for ANYTHING. That’s what sucks about this for her. But if she didn’t tell anyone about the abortion, no one would know it was her.

  • Anonymous

    Abortion is legal. People who follow the law should not be ashamed. 

    I personally support this woman’s abortion. Who the hell would want to carry this hateful sot’s child to full term? Hell I’d be sick just knowing I had sex with him.

  • Anonymous

    If you truly think everyone should own up to everything they’ve ever done that they’re ashamed of, why don’t you start with yourself? Sign back in with your real identity, and confess to us every action you’ve regretted, every unkind thing you’ve said. Because we should all be held accountable in the court of public opinion. We will be happy to judge you- that’s kind of our specialty here at the DD.

  • Athena

    I’m kind of thinking this is how it will play out.  I’m not positive (the courts surprise me now and again), but, yeah.  It contains no personal information, and I’m not aware of any legal precedent regarding deduction from association (I’m sure at least a few people will know exactly who he is talking about despite the lack of a name).  That said, if the latter exists, that would change the game.

    Actually, I believe there was a law discussed or maybe even passed in Kansas or Oklahoma (I think OK) that mandated hospitals keep an online log of individuals who received abortions.  Not names or specific addresses, but ages, employment, location, etc.  If that was struck down, this billboard might be found illegal.

    I’m off to Google…

  • WorldsTallestMidget

    As creepy as the billboard is, I think it is within his legal rights to post it. There’s the first amendment but also because he didn’t mention his ex-girlfriends name, I don’t think her privacy has been legally violated.

    On a side note, every chick that doesn’t want to fess up to an abortion claims she miscarried. It’s the standard excuse.

  • Anonymous

    Adultery is legal, too, but that doesn’t mean cheating spouses shouldn’t be ashamed. I’m not saying a woman who has an abortion should feel ashamed, I just think your argument is faulty. 

    Personally, I would be way more ashamed of letting this asshole knock me up than I would for having the abortion. 

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Not here (Michigan), adultery is still a felony. Nobody’s getting arrested for it but it’s on the books.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s a lie we should pretend to believe, though.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s play devil’s advocate:
    What if he did NOT want her to have the baby & she did anyway.He’s on the hook for 18 years of child support.Why is that ok? I know women who knowingly got pregnant even though they knew their partner did NOT want kids.Society says that’s acceptable yet when a man wants the baby but the woman does it she can terminate the pregnancy & he has no say.
    Do not get me wrong,this guy is a major creep(his money wouldv’e been better spent in therapy) & to put this ad up is bizarre but I do feel for him.
    This is an unfortunate situation & again highlights personal responsibility I guess.

  • Anonymous

    Whoa, I stand corrected. Turns out it’s illegal in a couple dozen states. Not here in California though- does that mean if we cheat on our husbands, you should be ashamed, but I shouldn’t? That would definitely be a plus to living in a post-Puritan state. 

  • Athena

    Yeah, the law is Oklahoma’s, and it was challenged from a procedural technicality standpoint, not privacy.  

    Looks like this is perfectly legal.

  • Athena

    Why is that okay?  Because, legally, the priority is the welfare of the child.  If the man took custody despite not wanting the child to begin with, she would be forced to pay support.

    There’s no way to make reproductive rights 100% fair and equal, as the man cannot carry a fetus and the baby doesn’t ask to be born.  There’s no way to correct that imbalance.

  • Anonymous

    If a woman has a kid, the vast majority of the time the bulk of child-rearing falls on her. That’s not fair. Neither is letting someone else decide whether she should be forced to have a baby or have an abortion. Neither is not letting a man have any say in what happens to his potential progeny. 

    It would be great if we could figure out a way to make everything ‘fair’, but due to the nature of child birth and rearing, we can’t. Blame it on God- he could have made us all one gender, but he likes his little jokes…

  • Anonymous

    Something I actually would love to know, considering we have lots of people commented that thus-and-such is perfectly legal/within the law/illegal, etc… how many of us here are actually lawyers, and can legally pass on such information?
    Not trying to start any fights or anything, just wondering honestly.  I work alongside lawyers, and I hear people saying a LOT that “my sister-in-law’s’ aunt’s cousin’s half-brother said this is illegal, so I want to sue!!”  So I’m just wondering how many people that have mentioned what’s legal and what’s not have the degree to back it up?  :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    A miscarriage that needs to be removed shows up in the medical records as an abortion. 

  • aka jas

    What a dirt bag.  Why would THAT be something you want to dwell on…Just move on. Any way you look at it its just nasty.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, and my opinion on THIS… If I drove by a sign like that, the only thing that I would think of would be what a massive asshole of a douche that guy is, along with sympathy for the woman in question.

    C.A.N.I.??  Why is something like this “needed information”?  Who NEEDS this kind of information???

  • Anonymous

    Some things may fall within the law but:

    What if a woman put up a billboard with pics of her and her child/children and they look poverty stricken and had it say “These children are living under the poverty level because their father does NOT pay child support…. technically that would fall under being legal also… just because something is legal dont make it morally right…

    Sounds like he is a really vindictive person, if he werent, possibly they could have come to an agreement if he wanted a child so badly where she gave birth to it and he took care of it, sounds more like he is angry she is his ex now and just want to humiliate her and cause a big stink.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    You don’t need a degree to discuss the legalities of a certain situation anymore than we need to be police officers. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Again, if you have a miscarriage and it does not get expelled by your body, you will need to have an abortion. That’s what it shows up as in the medical records. I know, because I had one. If I hadn’t, I would have gotten an infection and could have died. My boyfriend at the time was convinced that there was a chance to save the baby, despite repeated ultrasounds, blood tests, etc, showing that the baby had died. He was convinced we could save the baby up until the point that I was admitted to the hospital. Some men are just incredibly dense.  And really with him behaving like this, I wouldn’t blame her if she *did* have an abortion. Who the hell wants to have a kid with someone who’s going to behave like that? 

  • Anonymous

    Wow Deety, I like you a lot  :)  You’re saying the things that are running through my head, and making MUCH more sense than I would if I tried to type them out. 

  • Count Rackula

    In NC, a woman successfully sued her husbands mistress for “alienation of affection,” and got back a multi-million dollar settlement.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wife-wins-million-husbands-alleged-mistress/story?id=10151957

  • Anonymous

    Yeap; like I said, it’s just a question out of curiosity, based on the things I hear every day at work.

  • dirty byrdie

    while i do think that what he did is pretty damn shitty, he is with in his rights. Its not like when a 17 year old spray paints i fucked jenn jones on the local park bench. The only people that are gonna know who the mother of his child is are the people that personaly know them. Yeah it still sucks but maybe his ex should have thought about what kind of asshole she was dating before she fucked him. I always stuck to a rule of thumb that if youe gonna have sex with this person even if it is protected sex you better be damned ready to but up with that person for the rest of your life because condoms break. Shame on him for putting up the sign and shame on her for having sex with him.

  • Count Rackula

    Not every woman. Unfortunately, I know more than a few slags who would be proud to have had an abortion.

  • Count Rackula

    Why is everyone automatically assuming she lied about the miscarriage? I realize that often triflin’ bitches will do things like that, but not knowing this woman, can we at least believe for one second that maybe this man-child is just throwing a tantrum? If she’s lying, I honestly could not care less. I was just wondering why no one wants to believe that miscarriages do happen, especially to a woman who may not be as fertile as she once was at her age.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a civil matter though, not criminal. And good for her!

    And adultery is a misdemeanor in NC, so I guess you only need to be a little ashamed about it. 

  • Anonymous

    Thanks! *blush*

  • Anonymous

    IANAL (I am not a lawyer), but I do watch a lot of Judge Judy.  ;-)

  • Count Rackula

    Oh shit. Well, there’s that then.

  • Anonymous

    Most us us, myself included went by the news article stating each side lawyers saying that it was legal in the state this happened in…

  • Anonymous

    That’s awful! I had a friend go through this, and it’s one of the most difficult situations for a woman. Sorry your boyfriend was so dense. You deserved better support. 

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    If I’m not mistaken, all miscarriages fall under abortion since it was an interrupted pregnancy. They are listed as Threatened abortion, Missed abortion, Inevitable abortion and complete abortion. So if they looked at her medical records they would know if it were an actual termination of pregnancy or a miscarriage.

  • Count Rackula

    Oh, I know. You guys were talking about adultery being illegal so I thought I’d just stick my word penis right on in there.

    But yeah, I can’t imagine that they really punish that sort of thing the way they do other… actual crimes.

  • Anonymous

    first off since there are laws like HIPAA or HIPPA don’t recall..but basically privacy of your medical records….how does he know for certain that she had an abortion…maybe she just broke up with him and there was a rumor or whatever..nevertheless unless he can prove in court it is not slander then he’s wrong..

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    If their partners really didn’t want to have children, then they could have taken steps to avoid ever having children… Like having a vasectomy. When you really don’t want kids, it’s down right  despicable to abdicate your responsibility by leaving birth control to the other party. 

    And yes, the man has no say, because the man is not carrying the child, and does none of the work to gestate a child. The man does not go through any of the discomfort or physical problems associated with being pregnant. A man does not risk his life when his partner gives birth. Labor can be dangerous (hell, pregnancy itself can be life threatening) and many women are left permanently scarred because of it.  Basically, he does none of the work, and shares in none of the risks or actual problems, and that is why he does not have equal rights to that child in utero. 

    After the child is born, most of the responsibility of taking care of that child is entirely the mothers responsibility for at least the first year, and usually much longer than that. Breastfeeding is hard and exhausting work. That baby continues to need your nourishment for at least the first year, and you and your body work overtime to provide what the baby needs. 

     At the point when men can get spontaneously pregnant, and carry a child to term, then they can have equal rights. Until then, as long as the baby is in the mother, her rights should trump those of her child. (And trust me, socially speaking, as soon as you become pregnant, you basically become an incubator who looses damn near all rights to autonomy as far as most people are concerned. If you do *anything* that they deem is dangerous to the child you’re carrying, they will harangue you until you want to kill either them, or yourself. This is yet another joy of pregnancy that men do not have to endure.) 

  • Inconsiderate @ pikeman

    Who do you think that is? Aliceinchainsboy? I don’t know, his profile pic was different, even though it looks similar. Domino types like that, but domino wouldn’t do that. She loves being her bitchy self openly. Now you got me curious.

  • Anonymous

    hey think of it this way, it is a public service announcement not to ever ever let this man’s penis near your body if you are a woman..lol

  • Count Rackula

    That too. Thanks for chiming in, you two, because I can’t even get pregnant. So I really have no idea about any of this. :-)

  • http://oddlyunfocused.blogspot.com/ Eccentric_Lady

    Ah hell. That ‘ex’ definitely got the creep factor going all right posting a BILLBOARD about it – granted the whole nine yards is FUBAR’d, but damn…think that’s all I’m going to say about that.

    Can’t make it illegal for putting women at risk doing it in back alleys with coat hangers and knitting needles…also makes a ‘man’ own a ‘woman’ in a sense – hold her hostage – if she is pregnant with his kid and she has no other recourse or choice…

  • Anonymous

    And I don’t see anything wrong with that.  I was just a bit bemused to see so many comments that sounded so much like the people I talk to daily, that I had to ask.  Perhaps we can call it “Morbid” curiosity ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Can I just say, you shouldn’t hold a 2 month old like that.  That’s how small babies get dropped. 

  • Anonymous

    and for all anyone knows maybe he was abusive towards her..and she finally had the balls to break free and he is just showing how much of a control freak douchebag he really is…sorry but abortion isn’t an easy decision by anyone, and what if she did use condoms and he poked holes in them? it happens

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    The singer Fantasia was just being sued for the same thing. 

  • Count Rackula

    Honestly! If her arm was rotting off at the elbow, would he still want to save it?! Holy shit that is insane!

  • Inconsiderate @ pikeman

    She probably got an abortion because she didn’t want the baby looking like him. Obviously, that’s why he’s so pissed off.

  • Count Rackula

    Not only that, but who has the money to rent out a fucking BILLBOARD just to shame a woman for something that I’m sure she’s already pretty unhappy about? What a fucking asshole!

  • Count Rackula

    You should call this guy up and chew his ass for that. It would be hilarious. You should record it. I bet you could make him cry. :-)

  • Inconsiderate @ pikeman

    Check out her yahoo pulse stream. I get more excitement watching ants.

  • Anonymous

    Indeed.  What’s that thing he’s doing with his mouth, there?  He looks like he’s trying to find the most tender spot in which to take a big ol’ bite out of what he’s holding…  O.O

  • Anonymous

    Indeed.  What’s that thing he’s doing with his mouth, there?  He looks like he’s trying to find the most tender spot in which to take a big ol’ bite out of what he’s holding…  O.O

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Pregnancy sucks anyway. :-p 

    Plus there are plenty of children who need adopting if you wanted to be a mommy. 

    I lost two babies in a row (one miscarriage, one stillbirth) and would have been PISSED and burned down the joint if they would have put it down in my file as a voluntary termination of pregnancy.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Pregnancy sucks anyway. :-p 

    Plus there are plenty of children who need adopting if you wanted to be a mommy. 

    I lost two babies in a row (one miscarriage, one stillbirth) and would have been PISSED and burned down the joint if they would have put it down in my file as a voluntary termination of pregnancy.

  • Inconsiderate @ pikeman

    Could you imagine being a little baby, and looking at THAT mug smiling down at you creepily like that every day? That’s the shit nightmares are made of. Personally, I am mainly against abortion. She saved the baby a lot of nightmares, though, looking up at creepy grinning Dad every day.

    That dude is fucking creepy! Take down the billboards!

  • Anonymous

    “At the point when men can get spontaneously pregnant…”

    You do realize women don’t just get spontaneously pregnant, right? There’s a whole cause-and-effect thing at play.  :-p

    Seriously though, men have just about as much control over preventing pregnancy as women. Even just pulling out has been shown to be nearly as effective as condom use. And they have the same option that women have to simply not have sex with people you don’t want to make a baby with. If you do, you’re taking your chances. 

  • FrikkenFrak

    Were you hoping to thwart off hackers to your Yahoo account when you came up with that ID?
     (Pssssttt….it’s your PASSWORD that needs to be 8 billion letters and characters….) 

  • FrikkenFrak

    Legal schmeigle….  
      He’s a big fat ASSHOLE either way. 

    EVERYBODY’S got an ex they had issues with. 99.99% of the population aren’t dirty enough to put it on a billboard.

    Schmuck!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RK5MAF2VNT32ULNYFIXDANTEC4 Terence

    Does this not violate her right to medical privacy?

  • Anonymous

    Meh. I didn’t care enough to click. I could sense the boring from this side of the link.  ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I guess it depends on where you live. In my medical records it was called “spontaneous abortion” because the baby died for no discernible reason. Regardless, if you’re crazy enough to put up a billboard about it, you’re crazy enough to think that it wasn’t necessary or that every abortion means that you’re killing a baby, regardless of what the doctors or facts were. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I guess it depends on where you live. In my medical records it was called “spontaneous abortion” because the baby died for no discernible reason. Regardless, if you’re crazy enough to put up a billboard about it, you’re crazy enough to think that it wasn’t necessary or that every abortion means that you’re killing a baby, regardless of what the doctors or facts were. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    She was literally disintegrating in me, and it showed on the ultrasounds, and he still refused to believe me. He kept talking about how the guys at work said that they couldn’t hear the baby’s heartbeat until like 17 weeks with their kids or something, and my ex took that as the doctors must have been wrong. But they weren’t. It was an incredibly difficult and upsetting situation made worse by the attitude of my boyfriend at the time. Thankfully, the man I married is not like that. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    She was literally disintegrating in me, and it showed on the ultrasounds, and he still refused to believe me. He kept talking about how the guys at work said that they couldn’t hear the baby’s heartbeat until like 17 weeks with their kids or something, and my ex took that as the doctors must have been wrong. But they weren’t. It was an incredibly difficult and upsetting situation made worse by the attitude of my boyfriend at the time. Thankfully, the man I married is not like that. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Rotting arm: He might, if some guy had told him that it could be saved. Not a medical professional or anything… But like, some random guy at work, or possibly his father… Those he’d believe despite all evidence to the contrary. There’s a reason why he is an ex.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Rotting arm: He might, if some guy had told him that it could be saved. Not a medical professional or anything… But like, some random guy at work, or possibly his father… Those he’d believe despite all evidence to the contrary. There’s a reason why he is an ex.

  • guillotinegirl

    I have a problem with abortions, mainly that when I got mine they wouldn’t even let me take it home in a jar afterward.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t *think* so… only based on the fact that she’s never actually named on the billboard.  Unfortunately.

  • Anonymous

    I am totally for this I’m not anti-abortion or anything but I do believe the only people that should be able to get them are the ones who really need them. The best examples I can think of are rape, incest, health risk. Anything else should be put up for adoption there are too many good people out there that cant have children that would love and care for your child even if you dont want it. Aborting a normal healthy child is just one of the most selfish things a person can do. In my opinion. P.S. Fu#k those scumbags at the Westboro Baptist Church!

  • Count Rackula

    Yes, I’m a woman (teehee). That’s why I have the word “Rack” in my name. Boobies. Ha! (Although it’s worth noting that I did not give myself that name…)

    But yes, of course I’ve thought about all options. Adoption is just a lot harder than I would like it to be. I also don’t have the funds to even try anything like that or IVF. So, after a few hundred years of saving, I should be set.

    And yeah, I would have been angry too. Especially if they didn’t write the circumstances under which the procedure took place; some women need abortions because birthing the child will cause problems to their health! That’s pretty messed up that they would group all miscarriages/ involuntary situaitons into the same group where it all looks voluntary. I wouldn’t be happy about that one bit!

  • Anonymous

    Asshole speaking within his rights, just leave him be and move on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Bad wording on my part. By spontaneously, I meant that they could be naturally impregnated by a female, regardless of it being planned or not. I do realize that women don’t get spontaneously pregnant… I’m on my third one at the moment. 

    Men rarely exercise that control to the extent that women are basically required to, though. I reiterate that if a man really doesn’t want to have kids, then he should take actual steps to avoid having kids, instead of getting mad when his partner gets pregnant. I just read about a shot in India that renders a man infertile for 10 years, and thus far has been 100% effective, with 0 side effects. All it takes is two injections to the testicles. In comparison to the hoops that women have to jump through, with vastly detrimental health effects, that seems like a small price to pay if you don’t want progeny. 

    That being said, abortion is legal. And if the woman doesn’t want to carry the child to term, then she should have that option. Personally, I’d rather see more abortions, than for women to keep having children that they don’t want, who then go and abuse, torture or kill those children. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Bad wording on my part. By spontaneously, I meant that they could be naturally impregnated by a female, regardless of it being planned or not. I do realize that women don’t get spontaneously pregnant… I’m on my third one at the moment. 

    Men rarely exercise that control to the extent that women are basically required to, though. I reiterate that if a man really doesn’t want to have kids, then he should take actual steps to avoid having kids, instead of getting mad when his partner gets pregnant. I just read about a shot in India that renders a man infertile for 10 years, and thus far has been 100% effective, with 0 side effects. All it takes is two injections to the testicles. In comparison to the hoops that women have to jump through, with vastly detrimental health effects, that seems like a small price to pay if you don’t want progeny. 

    That being said, abortion is legal. And if the woman doesn’t want to carry the child to term, then she should have that option. Personally, I’d rather see more abortions, than for women to keep having children that they don’t want, who then go and abuse, torture or kill those children. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Bad wording on my part. By spontaneously, I meant that they could be naturally impregnated by a female, regardless of it being planned or not. I do realize that women don’t get spontaneously pregnant… I’m on my third one at the moment. 

    Men rarely exercise that control to the extent that women are basically required to, though. I reiterate that if a man really doesn’t want to have kids, then he should take actual steps to avoid having kids, instead of getting mad when his partner gets pregnant. I just read about a shot in India that renders a man infertile for 10 years, and thus far has been 100% effective, with 0 side effects. All it takes is two injections to the testicles. In comparison to the hoops that women have to jump through, with vastly detrimental health effects, that seems like a small price to pay if you don’t want progeny. 

    That being said, abortion is legal. And if the woman doesn’t want to carry the child to term, then she should have that option. Personally, I’d rather see more abortions, than for women to keep having children that they don’t want, who then go and abuse, torture or kill those children. 

  • Count Rackula

    I’m so glad you exist. I was totally thinking this, but I was afraid someone’s panties would bunch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    There are already plenty of children in the system who need good homes and don’t have them. And honestly, asking someone to go through the rigors of pregnancy, and labor, and putting their lives and health at risk because you have a moral objection to abortion is silly. Your morality doesn’t mean that I have to put my life or health in danger. It means that if you get pregnant, you have that choice. You don’t have the right to make those choices for me. I don’t share your morality, at all. I don’t think it’s my place to impose my personal feelings on other people, their bodies, their families, their health, or their life. Your rights end, where mine begin.

  • http://twitter.com/MouseStick jsw

    I don’t blame her. Who would want to have a child with a fat ugly guy who doesn’t know enough not to split an infinitive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    It actually doesn’t bother me at all. It seems to bother others much more. My miscarriage was no less upsetting or devastating than the abortions that some of my friends have had. We can sympathize because we’ve lost our children; it’s still a loss. 

    You know, I always said that I’d never have an abortion, because it’s just not for me. But I have a daughter now, and if the pregnancy that I am currently in was threatening to my life, or was going to result in a child who would suffer because of a medical condition, I would have one. I have a responsibility to the daughter that I already have, and also to my unborn child. I am strong enough to prevent suffering and to live with the pain of that decision, but I know for a fact that I’m not strong enough to watch my child live in agony.

  • Anonymous

    Should a cheating spouse be ashamed? I don’t know. 

    It is not for the law to decide if I should feel like a bitter left behind spouse/partner who wants to cause pain because someone stopped loving him or her… and that is definitely not a legal issue.

    The law does not prescribe any direction for adultery any longer and it is up to the bitter left behind partner as to whether he or she (with repercussions) wants to punish someone because that someone stopped loving him or her.

    I suggest you consult a lawyer before punishing a partner. That can be totally illegal.

  • Tundratot

    Exactly! The tard wouldbe father (whose baby I certainly would not want — then again, sex with this guy is hard to imagine) might have gotten the wrong idea from the medical terminology used in her record.

    As far as father’s rights in the abortion decision, I recognize the conundrum, but I come down on the side of the mother having ultimate say. Not least because I’m a woman, but more because a man is not the one carrying the child and having their lives, freedoms, and privacy disrupted by the pregnancy. Nor are they usually planning to be the caregiver.

  • Anonymous

    Consider it no longer a law. If you want it off the books, enforce it once.

  • Anonymous

    Just because it is on the books, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been contested in a higher federal court and was thrown out as unconstitutional. 

    Divorces are no fault. What good is an adultery charge?

  • Tundratot

    My husband seems to believe what his buddies tell before he believes me, too. At least as regards medical stuff. Not sure why that is. Iguess he thinks I overdramatize.

  • Anonymous

    Why hello Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins if you read my above post you would clearly see that one of my exceptions were health risk. I believe you stated “There are already plenty of children in the system who need good homes and don’t have them.” My response is that there are also alot of puppies and kittens sitting at the pound needing to be adopted there are many children across the world that need a sponsor and for only a few dollars a day or the price of a cup of high end coffee you can make a differance in a childs life. Come on really?

  • Anonymous

    So, you’re equating children to cats & dogs?  Does that mean you believe that if they’re not adopted after a certain period of time, they should be euthanized, since obviously nobody wants them? 
    Further… are you saying that raising a child costs as much as a cup of coffee? 

    … color me confused…

  • Wildheart

    But if she didn’t tell anyone about the abortion, no one would know it was her.

    But really…..how many girlfriends could this miserable douchebag have had?  Probably not too lengthy a process of elimination if ya know what I mean…. ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Lets just say thats how the statement of “There are already plenty of children in the system who need good homes and don’t have them.” came across to me. Is it like we don’t have any room for more? I just cant wrap my head around her logic on this one becauste some of the fist kids to be adopted are newborns they are what people want the most. Plus she must have not understood my post to break out the health risk rebuttal.

  • Anonymous

    Likewise, I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around “there’s lots of kids in the system now, why not just add to them?”.  I am definitely pro-choice; I most likely wouldn’t have an abortion myself if there was any other choice, but I’ll be DAMNED if I’m going to allow the choice to be taken away from me or any other woman.  How dare anyone say what a woman can and cannot do with their bodies???  I find that reprehensible.  I also find disgusting the fact that women use this kind of thing to fatten their state checks, or sleep around indiscriminately knowing that all they have to do if they get knocked up is get an abortion, or just hand the kid over to the state once it’s popped out.  You, and I, and I’m sure every other thinking being knows that these two things are wrong and stupid.  Telling me that I can’t do something with my own self… also stupid. And wrong.
    I have one child.  I stopped at one because I couldn’t afford to raise more than that then, and I sure as hell can’t now that she’s a teenager!  It seemed like the logical thing to do.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JBQXGZYIPF5YE63SFOZX5P3GCY Heaven

    Oh!! You should have stopped at the first line. It was so good, I stopped reading there. :p

  • LeaveMeBe

    I told myself I wouldn’t comment on this story, but I just have to. I’d be renting a billboard a little further down the road claiming that my ex-boyfriend was born with a dick in place of his skull and admitting that I had an abortion but clarifying that it wasn’t his. Fucker.

  • Anonymous

    It’s ok I have been known to rant as well. I only have one child myself and trust me i know the dangers of birthing first hand. Not only did I get shoulder locked when my mother gave birth to me but my son got shoulder locked when my wife gave birth to him. They had to break my collar bone to get me out and when my son was shoulder locked they didn’t have to break his but it almost killed my wife thankfully everything turned out ok but when my son was shoulder locked he wasnt able to breathe and my wife was in so much pain and losing so muck blood I really thought I was going to lose both of them that day.

  • Anonymous

    i personally do not belive in abortion; but belive that every person has the right to decide if to have a abortion or not. we do not now the who storey behind why he is a “ex”. just like some women decide to get pregnant knowing that their partner do not want a child; there are men that sabotage womens birthcontrol methods to get them pregnant. if he is so crushed over the abortion instead of a billboard use that money for therapy.  this just seems like a hurtful way to still be in his EXs life; she apparently has moved on and he cant let go

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/MissAnn-Tarot/100000624675062 MissAnn Tarot

    This is true, but any man who has sex without a condom, even if he believes the woman is on the pill, needs to take responsibility for his actions.  One night of unprotected sex can lead to more than pregnancy and men have to take responsibility for their sexuality too, instead of expecting women to be on the pill, have an IUD, etc.  Even a woman on the pill can get pregnant if the hormones aren’t strong enough, or she doesn’t take it at the same time every day, etc.  So if a man doesn’t want children, he needs to wear a condom every single time he has sex, unless he’s doing women who are post menopausal or who have had a hysterectomy.  Just because she’s on the pill but doesn’t take it as prescribed doesn’t mean she’s not going to consider a pregnancy a gift from god or a miracle.  She could turn out to be militantly pro-life, but just wasn’t ready for children.

    One of these days, we are going to have the pre-coital contract.  Where if a pregnancy occurs, both parties agree in advance as to what to do about it. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    Pregnancy does suck! Any woman who tells you it’s beautiful and is a miracle is a damned liar!

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately some women like to play games.My brother’s ex-fiancee took off in the middle of the night while pregnant with his kid.She called a month later to tell him she had an abortion.Then she called him 6 months later to tell him she lied and she had the baby.It took 3 yrs of court wrangling but DNA testing was finally done and yes he is the father.Of course they were in different states but all he had was her word.

  • Anonymous

    Deety you are so on it today.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    omg.  I’m not one for abortions for MYSELF, but good googly moogly, if HIS kid was swimming around inside me, I’d want it the fuck out of me, too!!!!!! YEEEESH.

  • Anonymous

    That is so wrong-funny,but wrong.

  • Anonymous

    That’s so funnybecause the first Facebook photo my husband posted of him holding our grandbaby he got a slew of “Don’t eat that baby “comments.Although he’s not a creepy version of Weird Al.

  • Anonymous

    That’s so funnybecause the first Facebook photo my husband posted of him holding our grandbaby he got a slew of “Don’t eat that baby “comments.Although he’s not a creepy version of Weird Al.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I am cracking up because I can so tell that you are ready for that baby to get out of you! The amazing part is when they lay that beautiful baby on top of you once they enter the world. All of the pain is worth it. :-)

  • Anonymous

    As a former medical biller at an OB Gyn, I can tell you it has nothing to do with where you live. Diagnosis codes. ICD-9 are based off fedrally run system of diagnoses from the federally run Medicare program. As are procedure codes (CPT). Your individual MD chooses how you are billed. CPT is the procedure done and must be followed with a corresponding ICD9. Your chart must back up what is billed otherwise your MD faces fraud charges.

  • Hekate

    all moral/ethical issues aside… what this shlump did, protected free speech or not, was in really bad taste

  • http://www.facebook.com/SorpyJellybeanMufness Jennifer Megan

    Unfortunate is when you get your dick stuck in the vacuum…This is just an example of the kinda people we need abortions to escape from.

  • http://www.facebook.com/SorpyJellybeanMufness Jennifer Megan

    Aren’t you on your third?Did I read that right?What about all the other children in the system that need good homes..Guess skipping on the condom was cheaper?

  • Anonymous

    Are you seriously giving her crap for bearing her own children?  Are you blaming HER for all of the other shitty “parents” out there who couldn’t take care of their own, so decided to let someone else do it, like the state, or if they’re extremely lucky, someone who would actually care for them?  And probably went right back out and popped out a few more, just for the hell of it?  Are you?  Seriously??  Because if you are, you might want to check yourself.  I would be willing to bet that Jessica is actually having children because she WANTS THEM, not because she can get more money from her state’s taxpayers.

  • Anonymous

    No,I’m giving her crap for babbling about all the children out there that could use good parenting,when she doesn’t follow up on it.She’s right,there’s tons of kids could use a good parent.Go get one of them and quit going on about it.

  • Anonymous

    It’s fucked UP.  If she miscarried, that’s not her fault.  He’s a dick.  But then again, that pretty much sums up how I feel about all pro-lifers with big fat mouths. Until you’ve been in that situation, shut your trap.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kennyhackett Kenny Hackett

    I bet that would have been an ugly baby.

  • Anonymous

    I get the feeling with a father like that we’d be writing in a few years about how that kid stabbed their teacher with a pencil ;)

  • Anonymous

    Oh yeah, totally, meth too of course.  Wanna see my scars?  So, since I’m intense about the fact that people are insensitive jerks to others makes me a psychotic druggie?  Guess I better go on the state and collect disability, so I can sit at home all day and bitch on D’D…

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    post away, and put my picture up there to boot. it’s my right and i hope it stays a right.

    as long as they don’t give crazy ass “father’s” high on the “passing my name down” trip – the right to intervene in such a decision i don’t fucking care.

    most “dad’s” are high on the idea and excited for ooooh about a year – and then they book.

    one of my brothers is a perfect example – the mother wanted an abortion – he swore to be around and take care of them…….. that lasted for barely a year, and he booked. refuses to get a job, refuses to spend real time (but has plenty of time for other bitches and their kids), refuses to be a fucking father…… we go round’ and round’. he learned quick not to bring those bitches and their offspring to my mom’s house when i’m around. i air his dirty laundry so quick his head spins. it’s really the least i can do to warn these stupid father shopping whore’s they’re trying to purchase the wrong goods.

  • Anonymous

    Proof positive that “perfectly legal” can still mean “perfectly disgusting.”

    This guy is a fucking psycho. No wonder she aborted his spawn. Can you say “pity sex?”. Jesus. However, if she did have a miscarriage, she can always sue him for slander. Might she also have a civil case for emotional distress, even if she did have the abortion? As has already been pointed out, everyone on town WILL know who he meant even if her name and picture weren’t used. The burden of proof is lower. You can still sue for emotional distress even if the act was protected speech, right?

    In any case, I hate this fat, ugly, obvious WoW-playing loser.

  • Anonymous

    Totally I agree. I just wish people would realize that a little contraceptive responsibility by both parties really could have kept this kinda shit from happening. Obviously, at least one party didn’t want a baby. And that party coulde kept that from happening. The other thing that bugs me ovver this schmuck is simply that it takes 2 to make a baby and 2 to raise one. Accidents do happen. You can’t force someone to be a parent. Ill interject my own experience here. Before I married my husband I got pregnant. We had an abortion. I wanted the child but he was not ready. I felt if he wasn’t ready then I wasn’t either because in my belief system a child needs 2 participating parents married or not. I couldn’t responsibily force someone in to a life long commitment they were not prepared or willing to make. And that’s why this guy realy pisses me off. Who the fuck does he think he is to dictate the direction ones life will take? He seems like a control freak and probably less angry about the termination of the pregnancy and more so the termination of the relationship.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    it’s true. i do.

    but an fyi – it’s not brazenness, it’s laziness. i couldn’t possibly keep up with multiple personalities.

    but i’m sure you’re all too familiar with that huh, “ZEKE”? LOL how could we forget you pretending to be your own cousin to cheer you on through the posts, and “like” all the comments you were ranting at me about.

    but i give all that cred to sugarglider, she was the one who ultimately scared you out of your hole and drove you into a confession about your multiple personality disorder.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care for abortion although I should but anyway. I’m not a person of god, and if you happen to have an abortion I’m not going to condemn you, nor is it any of my business. I could feel this guys pain but what the fuck don’t be a bitch and plaster it on a billboard.
    It is what it is, and you have to move on

  • Anonymous

    Huh. All sentimentality aside, I think the guys a pompous ass.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I paid for my own procedure. Medicare was not involved at all. Would that follow the same procedures then?

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Yeah, that was pretty funny. Zeke. lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I actually do sponsor a child. :) And I have two rescue dogs and have fostered others. We get them fixed to avoid having more unwanted pets out there in the world. We cannot sterilize people against their will, and you can even get unwanted pregnancies in your pets terminated. I fail to see how your logic follows.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    First was a miscarriage, but I’m on my third pregnancy. I have one daughter. And I raised my younger siblings. In this country, we have a hard time becoming foster parents because the system here sucks fairly hardcore, and I’m a registered immigrant, and not a citizen. We don’t make enough money to pay for adoption at this point, but we have discussed at length that very option. I help where I can, the doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have my own children as well. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I’ve raised my younger siblings, I sponsor a child, and once I get citizenship here fostering is not out of the question, nor is adoption, if we are financially better off. Again, I help where I can. That does not preclude me having my own children, as, you know, I actually take care of them. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I’ve raised my younger siblings, I sponsor a child, and once I get citizenship here fostering is not out of the question, nor is adoption, if we are financially better off. Again, I help where I can. That does not preclude me having my own children, as, you know, I actually take care of them. 

  • Tundratot

    Whatever this cretin may be, notice he’s gotten the backing of some crap group, too.  A few words of approbation for the CANI and GEFNET? 

  • Tundratot

    Whatever this cretin may be, notice he’s gotten the backing of some crap group, too.  A few words of approbation for the CANI and GEFNET? 

  • Athena

    I don’t think she can sue for defamation, either, considering she’s not specifically named.  Burden of proof IS lower, but defamation suits are hard to win to begin with, even when you have all the pieces.  Typically, one must prove that the defendant was intentionally spreading falsehoods.  That might be hard in a case like this one.

  • Athena

    It’s unenforceable, again, because, legally, the focus is on the welfare of the child once it’s born.  I’m not sure, but I believe such contracts have already been tested in the courts.

  • Athena

    I don’t think you understand.  No, actually, I know you don’t.  That’s okay, though.  Let me break it down for you.

    There are roughly 600,000 children in the adoption and foster systems in this country alone.  If you are not a perfectly healthy, white baby, your odds of being adopted drop dramatically.  For those left to be dealt with by the foster system, their neurological development is often stunted by emotional neglect and poor nutrition in their early years.  They exhibit Post Traumatic Stress Disorder at a higher rate than our soldiers who’ve done tours overseas.  They have double the rate of depression in comparison to other children.  As they grow, they are dramatically more likely to be involved in criminal behavior, become homeless, be poor and commit suicide.  Sexual abuse is estimated to be FOUR TIMES higher in foster homes than in the general populace.  More than one study has determined that children would be better off left in their troubled homes than “rescued” by the foster system.

    Now, does a woman who wants to spare her progeny a fate like that still sound selfish to you?

  • Anonymous

    Really?Meth?That explains quite a few things.I’ve seen a few people go down that road.If you’d like help with your problem I’m sure you can look up some good detox centers.As for going on disability..Well I just can’t condone it.Open up the news paper and look for a job.You already said above you had a daughter.Lets set a good example mum or else she could end up the one we read about on D’D. (If you find me a bit insenstive.I don’t see how that would be my problem)

  • Anonymous

    Pikeman made up an alter ego that was supposed to be a cousin of his named “Zeke?” Wow.

  • Anonymous

    Look,I’m all for this,but we’re still at my point.You’ve not adopted any kids of the sort.Despite your reasons.You’re simply having your own;How does that help them?It doesn’t.I’m pretty done with this except to say;If you’re not going to do anything about it.Just drop the subject entirely.Whatever you do DO,is nice and blahblahblah.However to the nitty gritty is you’re talking about something and saying how great it is,how people should do it,yet not doing it yourself.Quite hypocritical.I leave you with this.”Adopt it,or drop it.”.Insensitive of me?You bet.

  • Anonymous

    I suspected as much. It was just wishful thinking, because I despise this douchebag on so many levels. He probably made sure he was in the legal clear before he did it, otherwise he WOULD have used her name.

    Now I find myself wanting to know if she really did have an elective abortion so we know the extent of the dude’s delusions, even though I firmly believe it’s none of my damn business. I hate him either way. This shit is why I choose to believe in Karma.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks prominent_prozac I didn’t realize the fury I had envoked.

  • Anonymous

    This message is to (Athena, Jessica and Darsa) Geez what gives? I guess murdering babies is ok because there are too many children already in the system. I am basicaly a satanist and even I know better than that. Sure you all have the right to choose great I hope you don’t lose that right but dont get pissy at me because I don’t believe in murding a healthy normal baby just because of the what if factor WTF? What ever you want to tell yourself to make it ok to get an abortion is fine by me I don’t have to walk in you’re shoes and with the way you nonchalantly talk about this issue I wouldn’t want to. I feel like you would have no problem working in a slaughter house full of babies now. Athena I have respected you since I first started commenting here some years ago. It is SELFISH thats my stand. As for Jessica and Darsa I don’t know either of you yet as I haven’t been able to comment here in a couple of months due to issues with disqus. I’m sure you are good people and I hope that this doesn’t get us off to a bad start but just like you are able to express you’re opinion I have no problem with expressing my own as well. 

  • Anonymous

    I really feel for you, Jessica. What an awful time to go through, especially with NO support or kindness from her father.

  • Anonymous

    I see this guy and for some reason the rockstar Meatloaf pops into my head.

  • Anonymous

    He is absolutely HIDEOUS!   LOOK AT HIM!   Can you believe the kind of alien life forms that women allow between their legs?   He looks like a swamp creature!!!!!   Holy cow!   Can you imagine breeding with that?   *shudder*

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Meatloaf would do anything for love, but he won’t do that (the billboard). 

  • Anonymous

    If I was the woman in this situation, I would cringe. Anyone that knows him, knows who she is. She has the right to get an abortion, plain and simple. As for calling a miscarriage an abortion, mine at 17 was called “spontaneous abortion”. My brother saw the insurance paperwork, and called me a slut and whore, assuming I had an abortion. I set him straight, but felt guilty for years. That said, if I became pregnant tomorrow I would have an abortion ASAP, unless dh, (or father if I were single) wanted the baby. I would tell him about it, though.

  • Pyncky

    I think she should up a a billboard saying “If my baby’s father had more than a two inch penis and didn’t want me to pretend to be a little school girl, we might have stayed together.  But who wants a man who is a perv and a lousy lover to boot.”

  • Anonymous

    If it was a misscarriage, he’s rubbing salt in her wounds. If she aborted him it was because of that douche-y shit streak on his upper lip he calls moustache.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    lol “the guys at work” vs the doctors. fucking hell.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to expound. I just genuinely believe our legal system needs to recognize a difference between free (even if uncomfortable or controversial or unpopular) speech and vindictively invading someone’s privacy for no legitimate purpose. I’m not sure where the line needs to be, but I do think there should be one. 

    The ‘public’ doesn’t have a right to know every intimate detail of your life, particularly if you’re not a public figure. 

  • Anonymous

    I knew what you meant, I just couldn’t resist teasing you for wording it that way. :-p  I tend to read things very literally, and you’d mentioned having kids in another comment, so my first thought was “Somebody really ought to tell her what’s causing that!”

    I just looked up the male birth control you were talking about- Reversible inhibition of sperm under guidance. It’s in phase III of human testing this year! I hope everything goes well and men finally have a viable option for birth control. I will put up some of my own money to get this rolled out in high schools. It would be way easier to convince men to use BC than women, as men generally really don’t want kids when they’re young. 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_guidance

    Thanks for the info!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve always made it clear to a guy how I would handle it if (God forbid) I did get pregnant. When I was younger, too young (I felt) to be a good mother, that was abortion. One guy actually ended up deciding we shouldn’t have sex, because he was religious and wasn’t willing to risk it. 

    Fortunately, it turns out if you use birth control as directed, it actually does work. I will be eternally grateful to my mother for educating me about such things at a young age. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s common enough that there’s a term for it- reproductive abuse. Some men will not ‘allow’ their partners to take any form of birth control, for exactly that reason, to hold them ‘hostage’ with children. I’d never heard of such a thing until I asked Planned Parenthood why, every time I came in for birth control, they asked me if my husband ever prevented me from taking my BC. I thought it was such a strange question, but they hear “Yes” often enough that they always ask…

  • Anonymous

    “Anything else should be put up for adoption there are too many good people out there that cant have children that would love and care for your child even if you dont want it as long as it’s white.”

    There, fixed that for ya. 

  • Anonymous

    A lot of the time I completely disagree with you, but I do love you, Domino. <3 

  • Anonymous

    You Took the Words Right Out of my Mouth

    LOL

  • http://karebu.myopenid.com/ Karebu

    He didn’t slander anybody because he never mentioned who the girlfriend was…no name or face or any details that would identify her.  If that would have happened to me, I would have replied to the billboard by saying “I have no idea who the idiot is talking about, I never had an abortion.”  And leave it at that.

  • Inconsiderate @ pikeman

    That was a long time ago. Domino will never let me forget it, though.

  • Inconsiderate @ pikeman

    Not as funny as Lucifer Beelzebub. Sorry about that, Morbid.

    I miss those days. Domino is just bent because she didn’t know I was doing that. Sugarglider was the smart one. Actually, looking back on it, it’s not that hard to figure out.

  • Inconsiderate @ pikeman

    I did that to discourage your trollism toward me, and because I was naive about commenting on blogs. Plus, some of it was funny, but not blog kosher.

    Well, I could have come back on here and hidden behind a different identity, but I didn’t. I have been honest about it. Also, Zeke is not my cousin, but a dog I rescued.

    Yeah, it was a mistake, but not as big of a one as you make it out to be. A lot of people laughed, and I like making people on this site laugh. There’s enough bad shit on here, anyways.

    Personally, I think your derogatory attitude toward me is worse than me commenting as different characters. You have bigger problems than my personality disorder. 

    I think it just bothers you that I came back on here, and was honest and up front about it. That’s why you always have to bring it up.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, you so have me pegged; I am humbled and awed by your powers of observance, to say nothing of your pity and benevolence.  Hopefully it’s not too late for my poor daughter, so she doesn’t follow my horrible example and does something worthwhile with her life.  And why not go on the state, if I’m obviously disabled by the mental issues that you’ve diagnosed for me?  It seems to be the proper thing to do in this case…  *shrug*
    (I’m not very good at sarcasm; I think you’re a self-centered egotistical insensitive prig, to make assumptions about me as well as others on this thread, but that would be rude to say out loud)
    Have a nice day  :)

  • Anonymous

    Wow, you so have me pegged; I am humbled and awed by your powers of observance, to say nothing of your pity and benevolence.  Hopefully it’s not too late for my poor daughter, so she doesn’t follow my horrible example and does something worthwhile with her life.  And why not go on the state, if I’m obviously disabled by the mental issues that you’ve diagnosed for me?  It seems to be the proper thing to do in this case…  *shrug*
    (I’m not very good at sarcasm; I think you’re a self-centered egotistical insensitive prig, to make assumptions about me as well as others on this thread, but that would be rude to say out loud)
    Have a nice day  :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Yeah, he was a real genius…

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    trolling is fine by me, but when you start routing for yourself, showing yourself affection, complimenting yourself, liking your own comments it’s no longer trolling.

    there’s trolling and then there’s delusional :)

  • Southern Lady

    Those are the ones I remember.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I’m Kaylara on the boards. For some reason it doesn’t sign me in as that here.  I already stated  that I wouldn’t have an abortion, unless it was endangering my life or the baby was very sick. Before I had my daughter, I wouldn’t have had one, regardless. But that doesn’t mean that I have any right to force other women to have children that they don’t want.  The people that I know who’ve made the decision to have an abortion, I support 100%. I even drove them to their appointments. But before they made their final decision, I also told them that if they wanted to have the baby, I would adopt it and support it 100%. They made their decision. The only thing I can do is offer a real alternative to them, instead of some vaguely reasoned “someone will adopt them” kind of argument. And I absolutely would have adopted those kids. However, in the end, it’s not my decision to make, period. Not unless it’s my pregnancy. 

    And for the record, I’m a Pagan, and don’t really feel it’s my place to push my morality on *anyone*. I really do have to laugh at the very idea of a self identified Satanist trying to play the morality card, when that morality has nothing to do with Satanism, and then using it as a label to state how immoral they are, and if they know it’s wrong, wow, it must be really wrong. Well, I hate to tell you, but that’s not how Satanism works. But that’s definitely how Christianity works. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    Oh, but someone will adopt them. -_-

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    I already raised my siblings who are all adults now. I didn’t adopt them because the parents involved in the situation would not allow it. They may not legally be my kids, and I may not have pushed them out of my body, but those are MY kids. I took care of them from the time they were born, and continue to do so into their respective adulthoods. I’ve taken care of them since I was 8 years old, sacrificing most of my childhood, teen and adult years to take care of them because someone had to do the job, and because I love them. As soon as I was able to get a job, I did so, and then started supporting them financially. Something that continues to this day. I’m sorry, but I’ve done this for over 20 years, and I’m not even 30 yet. And I’d do it again in a heartbeat if it kept those kids from having to suffer for one single minute. Again, this doesn’t preclude me having my own children. Why should I suggest that women who don’t want their children be forced to have them against their will? I’ve already seen where that shit leads. I help where I can, what, exactly, do you do? Since you are filled with moral indignation that I would dare think we shouldn’t add to our foster children because we can’t find good homes for the ones that we already have, or that a woman should have rights over her own body, or perhaps even that I’d rather see a child aborted than live a life of abject suffering.  Again, I take care of my children. I take care of other people’s children if I can, and I will continue to do so in the future. If you’re not doing at least the same as I in that respect, than your moral indignation is utterly meaningless.

  • pikeman and company

    It seems like you are the only one who really thinks it’s a big deal nearly a year later.

    I came back out as myself, and admitted it. Who gives a fuck? And I was talking about you being the one who was trolling, because you were back then.

    It’s not like I was delusional, I didn’t REALLY think I was those characters. LOL!

    It just bothers you that I tricked you. Who cares, really.
     

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    I TROLLOLOLED YOU??

    the whole “thing” started because i simply showed up and got  into it with another poster, and their e-buddies were lolmad (you were one of those people … oh and your other self zeke) it definitely was a situation that cemented this place in my heart.

    and me thinks you read waaay way too deeply into shit. but i’ll be honest, if you didn’t…. addressing you would be absolutely no fun.

  • pikeman and company

    You trolled a lot of people, actually. I only stood up for Beatlechick, then I never heard the end of it.

    I would indulge you in this further, I have no problem with that. However, Morbid made it pretty plain the other day he was tired of this shit. So cheerio, for now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Courtney-Ann-Lee/208200803 Courtney Ann Lee

    And you can apply to be this POS’ girlfriend right here.

    http://www.greg.fultz.com/gfapp/app.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Courtney-Ann-Lee/208200803 Courtney Ann Lee

    My miscarriage is listed as a “spontaneous abortion” because I was less than 20 weeks along. Anything after 20 weeks is considered a preterm labor.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    yep out of no where and out of context i brought it up.

    LOL lets not forget in your op you tried to say it’s me who’s on another account trolling on their other account – i found that funny since you’re all too familiar with it, and you are, it’s just fact. you are waaaay too cozy with the whole alter ego thing.

    trick me? you’re right. i’d never in a million years think someone would go into such theatrics to make themselves look better. you pretended to be your own cousin ffs WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE NAME OF YOUR DOG LOLOLOL (in one post you screamed to zeke and told him how amazing he was for rescuing the dog and that i was a terrible bitch) that’s not trolling buddy, that’s just out right insane, literally.

    and lets not forget after you were outted you then became paranoid that i was several posters trying to cause trouble and started warning all your friends that because me and a few other’s were using slang like “fail” and “fail clouds” and “epic” – that we were all the same person! i mean good god lol you had yourself a nervous breakdown – that you caused yourself!

    it was most certainly epic. but more so because you brought it all on yourself – you told on yourself and you tortured yourself. it doesn’t really get any better than that.

  • http://mockingbirdq.livejournal.com/ Em

     This. Most people don’t realize that if you miscarry the doctor goes ahead and suggests a D&C to speed things up and avoid infection. Really adds insult to injury when you’ve just lost a baby :(
    This idiot likely heard she had a D&C and assumed abortion. Ugh!

  • http://mockingbirdq.livejournal.com/ Em

    I wouldn’t blame her if she did honestly. He seems like a total b*stard and I wouldn’t want to give him access to a kid.

    Young women/girls are coming forward on other coms and claiming this guy was well known for stalking 10-13 year old girls in the Neopets community even as long as a decade ago.  Creepy pedo shouldn’t be holding any babies :P

  • Anonymous

    They’re a bit touchy.I wouldn’t take it personal if I was you (I didn’t,apparently whiny cunt is in this season) I dunno’ how I feel with getting off on such the wrong foot.I feel like I should say “Erry’ day I’m trollin’ “..Instead of shufflin’..but I won’t change a moment of it(*evil sadist laugh inserted here*)..Ah I only wish I had any idea what they were on about anymore.I fully support the bit about expressing your own opinion.Sadly some people just don’t get it.Just because they don’t like an opinion;Doesn’t mean it’s discounted.I’d reply back to them,but by god I just started getting bored of them halfway through D: .Keep on expressing yourself :P It’s fun.

  • Anonymous

    W-O-W!  I didn’t think it was literal! Browsing through all of his answer options, he creeps me out.

  • Anonymous

    WHAT THE FUCK?

  • wyrosjr

    I support a right to abortion, however I still feel that the majority of them are irresponsible in nature. I mean we KNOW what causes pregnancy now. Some simple precautions can prevent it in the first place.

  • DamagedGoods

    Please tell me you didn’t actually take her comment as anything but irony… Please tell me your response is simply a strange attempt to up the ante on said irony…

    Please?

  • DamagedGoods

    Did I miss something Jessica said that leads you too believe she can’t take care of her own kids? Or are you saying that she’s a bad person because she bore her own children rather than adopting a pre-existing one?

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    Wow, what a control freak. I don’t like induced abortion at all (but I think taking care of the issues that cause women feel that abortion is their best option will reduce their instances without creating more legislation), but if she did have an abortion instead of a miscarriage (which is often listed as a spontaneous abortion), I can’t say that I blame her.

    Heterosexual women of the world need to look at this story as a good reason never to date this guy…y’know, if his derpy appearance wasn’t enough to scare them away.

  • Anonymous

    Because I can’t seem to reply to any of the BS filling my inbox and I just don’t really care anymore since this was yesterdays news..(No really it is..Just look above) D: ..Here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0QNE

    (Yes,there’s a lotta sarcasm in everything previously said,and yes..It’ll most likely continue.)

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    i know. i know. with people like you “making someone mad” is trolling. i’ve got to admit, i’ve never had more fun being me than surrounded by a crowd of people like you. too easy, it’s easier than trolling – no material needed, just speak your mind.

    oh and if you were looking for the high road.. yeeah, you missed that a long time ago lol even after morbid emphasized it was all a joke princess.

    nothing could truly diffuse a situation with you ………. not unless i disclaimed every single sentence and used a bunch of smiley’s and jk’s after every jab (think i puked in my mouth a little ….. orange juice is terrible the second time around) fuck, i’d have to wrap each word with cotton and dump baby powder on it to insure it didn’t give you a fucking rash.

    think i’ll take my chances. TEE HEE

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XA4RDSRSUX3XRSCPRR7XNGSPUQ Joshua

    um…looking at the ex-boyfriend…I can see why she aborted. Who would want an ugly baby? The ex-BF looks kind of child molestery.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    i don’t even want to let them get started with monitoring how many abortions a woman can or can’t have.

    yeah a lot of skanky whores use it as birth control – but i can totally see where that type of monitoring would lead.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    i know. i know. with people like you “making someone mad” is trolling.
    i’ve got to admit, i’ve never had more fun being me than surrounded by a
    crowd of people like you. too easy, it’s easier than trolling – no
    material needed, just speak your mind.

    oh and if you were looking
    for the high road.. yeeah, you missed that a long time ago lol even
    after morbid emphasized it was all a joke, princess.

    nothing could
    truly diffuse a situation with you ….. not unless i disclaimed
    every single sentence and used a bunch of smiley’s and jk’s after every
    jab (think i puked in my mouth a little ….. orange juice is terrible
    the second time around) fuck, i’d have to wrap each word with cotton and
    dump baby powder on it to insure it didn’t give you a fucking rash.

    think i’ll take my chances. TEE HEE

  • MISSanthropic

    I think his face and body is also a good PSA for that. lol

  • MISSanthropic

    I think his face and body is also a good PSA for that. lol

  • MISSanthropic

    I find it HI-larious how you say:  “Sure you all have the right to choose great I hope you don’t lose that right…” and then go on to talk about how selfish it is and anyone who supports it would have no problem working in a slaughter house full of babies.

    You do see the conflicting opinions here, right? I hope? Whatever your opinion about abortion may be is fine, but please pick one. 

  • Count Rackula

    @Domino94:disqus Double penetration!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jessica.Veltstra.Collins Jessica L. Veltstra-Collins

    No, I believe that they’re saying I shouldn’t use the argument that there are plenty of children in foster care and that we don’t need to add to that because I am not a foster parent and haven’t legally adopted any children. 

  • Athena

    No, he doesn’t.  Any logic he’s used to formulate his ass backward opinion ran out some time ago.

    I just don’t understand how someone excuses abortion to spare the mother pain but not to spare the child pain.  I just don’t see how the former is fine but the latter is selfish.

    But, what do I know?  I’ll just pop my smock back on and head back into the slaughterhouse. lololol.

  • pikeman and company

    IR Domino’s comments.

    Where is the “ignore” button?

  • pikeman and company

    Clicks “ignore” button.

  • Athena

    Which is retarded.  Even more retarded than (but very similar to) suggesting that they can’t have an opinion on the matter because they’re men.  

    Everyone is allowed an opinion.  Some are simply more idiotic than others. :P

  • Anonymous

    I understand how tempting it is for people to have socks (i.e. sockpuppet accounts), but I never pegged you for a puppeteer.  I don’t know why anyone would even DARE sockpuppet DD.  That’s just stupid, LOL.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t call that trolling, I call that sock puppeting.  No one here’s heard of socking?  Sure, it’s a type of trolling and while all sock puppets are trolls, not all trolls are sock puppets.  :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

    And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

    And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

    And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

    And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

    And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

  • Anonymous

    It won’t be hard if she can prove it was a miscarriage/she has never had an abortion.  Her friends all say it was a miscarriage and that this guy is freaking nuts.

    And uh…private citizens are able to sue for libel and defamation, especially when it’s something like this.  I’ve been eyeballs deep in the shit of libel/defamation law (Canadian and U.S.), and this would fall under that (especially since he hid her name in the “ad”).

  • Anonymous

    The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

  • Anonymous

    The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

  • Anonymous

    The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

  • Anonymous

    The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

  • Anonymous

    The woman’s name is “Nani”.  So you tell me what he was getting at with “CANI”.

  • Anonymous

    He hid her name in the ad? Where?

  • Anonymous

    Should have waited to read this. :-)

  • Anonymous

    Should have waited to read this. :-)

  • Anonymous

    Should have waited to read this. :-)

  • pikeman and company

    To House

    You’re absolutely right, House. I was ignorant about commenting on sites back then. I have admitted I got carried away with it. Domino keeps bringing it up, she wants everyone to know. Oh well, I don’t care, I already apologized for it.

    At least I had the balls to come on here six months later as myself, knowing I would hear about it from her. Half of that is exaggeration anyway. Like saying I said she was that poster above. Yet, if you read my post, I clearly didn’t say that.

    See, I’m pikeman and company, now. At least I have a sense of humor about it.

  • pikeman and company

    To House

    You’re absolutely right, House. I was ignorant about commenting on sites back then. I have admitted I got carried away with it. Domino keeps bringing it up, she wants everyone to know. Oh well, I don’t care, I already apologized for it.

    At least I had the balls to come on here six months later as myself, knowing I would hear about it from her. Half of that is exaggeration anyway. Like saying I said she was that poster above. Yet, if you read my post, I clearly didn’t say that.

    See, I’m pikeman and company, now. At least I have a sense of humor about it.

  • pikeman and company

    To House

    You’re absolutely right, House. I was ignorant about commenting on sites back then. I have admitted I got carried away with it. Domino keeps bringing it up, she wants everyone to know. Oh well, I don’t care, I already apologized for it.

    At least I had the balls to come on here six months later as myself, knowing I would hear about it from her. Half of that is exaggeration anyway. Like saying I said she was that poster above. Yet, if you read my post, I clearly didn’t say that.

    See, I’m pikeman and company, now. At least I have a sense of humor about it.

  • pikeman and company

    To House

    You’re absolutely right, House. I was ignorant about commenting on sites back then. I have admitted I got carried away with it. Domino keeps bringing it up, she wants everyone to know. Oh well, I don’t care, I already apologized for it.

    At least I had the balls to come on here six months later as myself, knowing I would hear about it from her. Half of that is exaggeration anyway. Like saying I said she was that poster above. Yet, if you read my post, I clearly didn’t say that.

    See, I’m pikeman and company, now. At least I have a sense of humor about it.

  • Anonymous

    “In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

    Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

    ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

  • Anonymous

    “In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

    Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

    ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

  • Anonymous

    “In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

    Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

    ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

  • Anonymous

    “In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

    Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

    ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

  • Anonymous

    “In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

    Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

    ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

  • Anonymous

    “In the interests of cutting down on the number of Pyscho’s I Date”

    Because taking out a fucked up billboard like he did ISN’T psycho.

    ETA: What a fucking lameassed loser, still using internet clipart .gifs and graphics from 1995.

  • pikeman and company

    To the Count

    DP is my initials. Apparently Domino knows who I am. BFD, it’s no secret, anyways.

    All this is stupid. I already said I was done arguing with other posters. So I was new to commenting and made a mistake. Get over it already, people.

  • pikeman and company

    To the Count

    DP is my initials. Apparently Domino knows who I am. BFD, it’s no secret, anyways.

    All this is stupid. I already said I was done arguing with other posters. So I was new to commenting and made a mistake. Get over it already, people.

  • pikeman and company

    To the Count

    DP is my initials. Apparently Domino knows who I am. BFD, it’s no secret, anyways.

    All this is stupid. I already said I was done arguing with other posters. So I was new to commenting and made a mistake. Get over it already, people.

  • Anonymous

    Before I start on my usual “This is what the cat thinks” blathering, I think you ought to read his Twitter.

    http://i.imgur.com/xg8sW.jpg  
    https://twitter.com/#!/prdpgn
    (BTW, the quote he writes at the top of his Twitter means “If I wanted your opinion, I’d read your entrails.”)

    and his idiotic Designed in ’95 website that has the “apply to be my girlfriend” application on it:

    http://www.greg.fultz.com/

    And regardless of whether you all think this is “free speech” (and despite the wholesale bullshit that SCOTUS ate up from WBC’s full-of-shit mouths), it’s still harassment (which is what the judge found as well).

    Also, the billboard DID have her first name on it, as the acronym for his fake organization.  Her name is Nani.  Here is an article with the photo of the billboard that says “NANI” on it:

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/07/abortion-billboard-could-mean-jail-for-ex-boyfriend/

    Yes, I’ve seen the one with “CANI” on it, too.  

    And if this information is false, it’s also libel.  “Nani” is a private citizen (as private as we can measure here with the world of the internets;  despite the fact that thousands of people know her name now, she is not a public figure and *does* enjoy certain protections against libel and slander that public figures don’t.  She can sue for distress.  Defamation shouldn’t be hard to prove either with the “N.A.N.I.” sign, and when you factor in his *intent*, well, then you have a fucktard who doesn’t understand the legal limitations we have on “free” speech.    (“Free speech” doesn’t apply to everything -the common man- says or writes, so…let’s try to remember that.)

    This is the New Mexico criminal libel code, BTW:

    30-11-1. Libel.

    Libel consists of making, writing, publishing, selling or circulating without good motives and justifiable ends, any false and malicious statement affecting the reputation, business or occupation of another, or which exposes another to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace.

    Whoever commits libel is guilty of a misdemeanor.

    The word “malicious,” as used in this article, signifies an act done with evil or mischievous design and it is not necessary to prove any special facts showing ill-feeling on the part of the person who is concerned in making, printing, publishing or circulating a libelous statement against the person injured thereby.

    A. A person is the maker of a libel who originally contrived and either executed it himself by writing, printing, engraving or painting, or dictated, caused or procured it to be done by others.

    B. A person is the publisher of a libel who either of his own will or by the persuasion or dictation, or at the solicitation or employment for hire of another, executes the same in any of the modes pointed out as constituting a libel; but if anyone by force or threats is compelled to execute such libel he is guilty of no crime.

    C. A person is guilty of circulating a libel who, knowing its contents, either sells, distributes or gives, or who, with malicious design, reads or exhibits it to others.

    D. The written, printed or published statement to come within the definition of libel must falsely convey the idea either:

    (1) that the person to whom it refers has been guilty of some penal offenses;
    (2) that he has been guilty of some act or omission which, though not a penal offense, is disgraceful to him as a member of society, and the natural consequence of which is to bring him into contempt among honorable persons;
    (3) that he has some moral vice or physical defect or disease which renders him unfit for intercourse with respectable society, and as such should cause him to be generally avoided;
    (4) that he is notoriously of bad or infamous character; or
    (5) that any person in office or a candidate therefor is dishonest and therefore unworthy of such office, or that while in office he has been guilty of some malfeasance rendering him unworthy of the place.

    E. It shall be sufficient to constitute the crime of libel if the natural consequence of the publication of the same is to injure the person defamed although no actual injury to his reputation need be proven.

    F. No statement made in the course of a legislative or judicial proceeding, whether true or false, although made with intent to injure and for malicious purposes, comes within the definition of libel.

    ———–

  • Anonymous

    Before I start on my usual “This is what the cat thinks” blathering, I think you ought to read his Twitter.

    http://i.imgur.com/xg8sW.jpg  
    https://twitter.com/#!/prdpgn
    (BTW, the quote he writes at the top of his Twitter means “If I wanted your opinion, I’d read your entrails.”)

    and his idiotic Designed in ’95 website that has the “apply to be my girlfriend” application on it:

    http://www.greg.fultz.com/

    And regardless of whether you all think this is “free speech” (and despite the wholesale bullshit that SCOTUS ate up from WBC’s full-of-shit mouths), it’s still harassment (which is what the judge found as well).

    Also, the billboard DID have her first name on it, as the acronym for his fake organization.  Her name is Nani.  Here is an article with the photo of the billboard that says “NANI” on it:

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/07/abortion-billboard-could-mean-jail-for-ex-boyfriend/

    Yes, I’ve seen the one with “CANI” on it, too.  

    And if this information is false, it’s also libel.  “Nani” is a private citizen (as private as we can measure here with the world of the internets;  despite the fact that thousands of people know her name now, she is not a public figure and *does* enjoy certain protections against libel and slander that public figures don’t.  She can sue for distress.  Defamation shouldn’t be hard to prove either with the “N.A.N.I.” sign, and when you factor in his *intent*, well, then you have a fucktard who doesn’t understand the legal limitations we have on “free” speech.    (“Free speech” doesn’t apply to everything -the common man- says or writes, so…let’s try to remember that.)

    This is the New Mexico criminal libel code, BTW:

    30-11-1. Libel.

    Libel consists of making, writing, publishing, selling or circulating without good motives and justifiable ends, any false and malicious statement affecting the reputation, business or occupation of another, or which exposes another to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace.

    Whoever commits libel is guilty of a misdemeanor.

    The word “malicious,” as used in this article, signifies an act done with evil or mischievous design and it is not necessary to prove any special facts showing ill-feeling on the part of the person who is concerned in making, printing, publishing or circulating a libelous statement against the person injured thereby.

    A. A person is the maker of a libel who originally contrived and either executed it himself by writing, printing, engraving or painting, or dictated, caused or procured it to be done by others.

    B. A person is the publisher of a libel who either of his own will or by the persuasion or dictation, or at the solicitation or employment for hire of another, executes the same in any of the modes pointed out as constituting a libel; but if anyone by force or threats is compelled to execute such libel he is guilty of no crime.

    C. A person is guilty of circulating a libel who, knowing its contents, either sells, distributes or gives, or who, with malicious design, reads or exhibits it to others.

    D. The written, printed or published statement to come within the definition of libel must falsely convey the idea either:

    (1) that the person to whom it refers has been guilty of some penal offenses;
    (2) that he has been guilty of some act or omission which, though not a penal offense, is disgraceful to him as a member of society, and the natural consequence of which is to bring him into contempt among honorable persons;
    (3) that he has some moral vice or physical defect or disease which renders him unfit for intercourse with respectable society, and as such should cause him to be generally avoided;
    (4) that he is notoriously of bad or infamous character; or
    (5) that any person in office or a candidate therefor is dishonest and therefore unworthy of such office, or that while in office he has been guilty of some malfeasance rendering him unworthy of the place.

    E. It shall be sufficient to constitute the crime of libel if the natural consequence of the publication of the same is to injure the person defamed although no actual injury to his reputation need be proven.

    F. No statement made in the course of a legislative or judicial proceeding, whether true or false, although made with intent to injure and for malicious purposes, comes within the definition of libel.

    ———–

  • Anonymous

    Before I start on my usual “This is what the cat thinks” blathering, I think you ought to read his Twitter.

    http://i.imgur.com/xg8sW.jpg  
    https://twitter.com/#!/prdpgn
    (BTW, the quote he writes at the top of his Twitter means “If I wanted your opinion, I’d read your entrails.”)

    and his idiotic Designed in ’95 website that has the “apply to be my girlfriend” application on it:

    http://www.greg.fultz.com/

    And regardless of whether you all think this is “free speech” (and despite the wholesale bullshit that SCOTUS ate up from WBC’s full-of-shit mouths), it’s still harassment (which is what the judge found as well).

    Also, the billboard DID have her first name on it, as the acronym for his fake organization.  Her name is Nani.  Here is an article with the photo of the billboard that says “NANI” on it:

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/07/abortion-billboard-could-mean-jail-for-ex-boyfriend/

    Yes, I’ve seen the one with “CANI” on it, too.  

    And if this information is false, it’s also libel.  “Nani” is a private citizen (as private as we can measure here with the world of the internets;  despite the fact that thousands of people know her name now, she is not a public figure and *does* enjoy certain protections against libel and slander that public figures don’t.  She can sue for distress.  Defamation shouldn’t be hard to prove either with the “N.A.N.I.” sign, and when you factor in his *intent*, well, then you have a fucktard who doesn’t understand the legal limitations we have on “free” speech.    (“Free speech” doesn’t apply to everything -the common man- says or writes, so…let’s try to remember that.)

    This is the New Mexico criminal libel code, BTW:

    30-11-1. Libel.

    Libel consists of making, writing, publishing, selling or circulating without good motives and justifiable ends, any false and malicious statement affecting the reputation, business or occupation of another, or which exposes another to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace.

    Whoever commits libel is guilty of a misdemeanor.

    The word “malicious,” as used in this article, signifies an act done with evil or mischievous design and it is not necessary to prove any special facts showing ill-feeling on the part of the person who is concerned in making, printing, publishing or circulating a libelous statement against the person injured thereby.

    A. A person is the maker of a libel who originally contrived and either executed it himself by writing, printing, engraving or painting, or dictated, caused or procured it to be done by others.

    B. A person is the publisher of a libel who either of his own will or by the persuasion or dictation, or at the solicitation or employment for hire of another, executes the same in any of the modes pointed out as constituting a libel; but if anyone by force or threats is compelled to execute such libel he is guilty of no crime.

    C. A person is guilty of circulating a libel who, knowing its contents, either sells, distributes or gives, or who, with malicious design, reads or exhibits it to others.

    D. The written, printed or published statement to come within the definition of libel must falsely convey the idea either:

    (1) that the person to whom it refers has been guilty of some penal offenses;
    (2) that he has been guilty of some act or omission which, though not a penal offense, is disgraceful to him as a member of society, and the natural consequence of which is to bring him into contempt among honorable persons;
    (3) that he has some moral vice or physical defect or disease which renders him unfit for intercourse with respectable society, and as such should cause him to be generally avoided;
    (4) that he is notoriously of bad or infamous character; or
    (5) that any person in office or a candidate therefor is dishonest and therefore unworthy of such office, or that while in office he has been guilty of some malfeasance rendering him unworthy of the place.

    E. It shall be sufficient to constitute the crime of libel if the natural consequence of the publication of the same is to injure the person defamed although no actual injury to his reputation need be proven.

    F. No statement made in the course of a legislative or judicial proceeding, whether true or false, although made with intent to injure and for malicious purposes, comes within the definition of libel.

    ———–

  • Anonymous

    Before I start on my usual “This is what the cat thinks” blathering, I think you ought to read his Twitter.

    http://i.imgur.com/xg8sW.jpg  
    https://twitter.com/#!/prdpgn
    (BTW, the quote he writes at the top of his Twitter means “If I wanted your opinion, I’d read your entrails.”)

    and his idiotic Designed in ’95 website that has the “apply to be my girlfriend” application on it:

    http://www.greg.fultz.com/

    And regardless of whether you all think this is “free speech” (and despite the wholesale bullshit that SCOTUS ate up from WBC’s full-of-shit mouths), it’s still harassment (which is what the judge found as well).

    Also, the billboard DID have her first name on it, as the acronym for his fake organization.  Her name is Nani.  Here is an article with the photo of the billboard that says “NANI” on it:

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/07/abortion-billboard-could-mean-jail-for-ex-boyfriend/

    Yes, I’ve seen the one with “CANI” on it, too.  

    And if this information is false, it’s also libel.  “Nani” is a private citizen (as private as we can measure here with the world of the internets;  despite the fact that thousands of people know her name now, she is not a public figure and *does* enjoy certain protections against libel and slander that public figures don’t.  She can sue for distress.  Defamation shouldn’t be hard to prove either with the “N.A.N.I.” sign, and when you factor in his *intent*, well, then you have a fucktard who doesn’t understand the legal limitations we have on “free” speech.    (“Free speech” doesn’t apply to everything -the common man- says or writes, so…let’s try to remember that.)

    This is the New Mexico criminal libel code, BTW:

    30-11-1. Libel.

    Libel consists of making, writing, publishing, selling or circulating without good motives and justifiable ends, any false and malicious statement affecting the reputation, business or occupation of another, or which exposes another to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation or disgrace.

    Whoever commits libel is guilty of a misdemeanor.

    The word “malicious,” as used in this article, signifies an act done with evil or mischievous design and it is not necessary to prove any special facts showing ill-feeling on the part of the person who is concerned in making, printing, publishing or circulating a libelous statement against the person injured thereby.

    A. A person is the maker of a libel who originally contrived and either executed it himself by writing, printing, engraving or painting, or dictated, caused or procured it to be done by others.

    B. A person is the publisher of a libel who either of his own will or by the persuasion or dictation, or at the solicitation or employment for hire of another, executes the same in any of the modes pointed out as constituting a libel; but if anyone by force or threats is compelled to execute such libel he is guilty of no crime.

    C. A person is guilty of circulating a libel who, knowing its contents, either sells, distributes or gives, or who, with malicious design, reads or exhibits it to others.

    D. The written, printed or published statement to come within the definition of libel must falsely convey the idea either:

    (1) that the person to whom it refers has been guilty of some penal offenses;
    (2) that he has been guilty of some act or omission which, though not a penal offense, is disgraceful to him as a member of society, and the natural consequence of which is to bring him into contempt among honorable persons;
    (3) that he has some moral vice or physical defect or disease which renders him unfit for intercourse with respectable society, and as such should cause him to be generally avoided;
    (4) that he is notoriously of bad or infamous character; or
    (5) that any person in office or a candidate therefor is dishonest and therefore unworthy of such office, or that while in office he has been guilty of some malfeasance rendering him unworthy of the place.

    E. It shall be sufficient to constitute the crime of libel if the natural consequence of the publication of the same is to injure the person defamed although no actual injury to his reputation need be proven.

    F. No statement made in the course of a legislative or judicial proceeding, whether true or false, although made with intent to injure and for malicious purposes, comes within the definition of libel.

    ———–

  • Athena

    No, see, it doesn’t really matter what actually happened.  The plaintiff must be able to prove that the defendant knowingly spread falsehoods, generally speaking.  Unless he was actually at the hospital or doctor’s appointment with her when it was stated that she had a miscarriage, he may be able to prove that he had reason to believe she was lying about it being a miscarriage instead of an abortion.  

    And, uh… I know they *can* sue (there was a “successfully” implied, there).  I’m saying it’s a difficult win, even when all the pieces are there. You’d know that if you’ve been “eyeballs deep” in defamation suits.  They are expensive (although she might get pro-choice groups offering assistance in this area) and unsuccessful in about 90% of cases.  In the successful cases, damages are small.  Of course, the fact that she isn’t specifically identified means she may not even have a case to pursue to begin with.  

  • Athena

    No, see, it doesn’t really matter what actually happened.  The plaintiff must be able to prove that the defendant knowingly spread falsehoods, generally speaking.  Unless he was actually at the hospital or doctor’s appointment with her when it was stated that she had a miscarriage, he may be able to prove that he had reason to believe she was lying about it being a miscarriage instead of an abortion.  

    And, uh… I know they *can* sue (there was a “successfully” implied, there).  I’m saying it’s a difficult win, even when all the pieces are there. You’d know that if you’ve been “eyeballs deep” in defamation suits.  They are expensive (although she might get pro-choice groups offering assistance in this area) and unsuccessful in about 90% of cases.  In the successful cases, damages are small.  Of course, the fact that she isn’t specifically identified means she may not even have a case to pursue to begin with.  

  • Athena

    No, see, it doesn’t really matter what actually happened.  The plaintiff must be able to prove that the defendant knowingly spread falsehoods, generally speaking.  Unless he was actually at the hospital or doctor’s appointment with her when it was stated that she had a miscarriage, he may be able to prove that he had reason to believe she was lying about it being a miscarriage instead of an abortion.  

    And, uh… I know they *can* sue (there was a “successfully” implied, there).  I’m saying it’s a difficult win, even when all the pieces are there. You’d know that if you’ve been “eyeballs deep” in defamation suits.  They are expensive (although she might get pro-choice groups offering assistance in this area) and unsuccessful in about 90% of cases.  In the successful cases, damages are small.  Of course, the fact that she isn’t specifically identified means she may not even have a case to pursue to begin with.  

  • Anonymous

    The stupid little bitch owns “GEFNET” and has posted this on its “company’s” FB wall as of May 17:

    “I want to let my clients know that regarding recent events alot of lies and malicious attacks have been launched against me. I assure you none of which are true. If you wish to know something about me or how i handle my business you are more then welcome to contact me and ask me privately. This is the cost one pays for standing up for something you strongly believe in. Thank you for your continued support.May 17 at 7:44am”LOL, yeah, so…none of it is true!

  • Anonymous

    The stupid little bitch owns “GEFNET” and has posted this on its “company’s” FB wall as of May 17:

    “I want to let my clients know that regarding recent events alot of lies and malicious attacks have been launched against me. I assure you none of which are true. If you wish to know something about me or how i handle my business you are more then welcome to contact me and ask me privately. This is the cost one pays for standing up for something you strongly believe in. Thank you for your continued support.May 17 at 7:44am”LOL, yeah, so…none of it is true!

  • Anonymous

    The stupid little bitch owns “GEFNET” and has posted this on its “company’s” FB wall as of May 17:

    “I want to let my clients know that regarding recent events alot of lies and malicious attacks have been launched against me. I assure you none of which are true. If you wish to know something about me or how i handle my business you are more then welcome to contact me and ask me privately. This is the cost one pays for standing up for something you strongly believe in. Thank you for your continued support.May 17 at 7:44am”LOL, yeah, so…none of it is true!

  • Anonymous

    The stupid little bitch owns “GEFNET” and has posted this on its “company’s” FB wall as of May 17:

    “I want to let my clients know that regarding recent events alot of lies and malicious attacks have been launched against me. I assure you none of which are true. If you wish to know something about me or how i handle my business you are more then welcome to contact me and ask me privately. This is the cost one pays for standing up for something you strongly believe in. Thank you for your continued support.May 17 at 7:44am”LOL, yeah, so…none of it is true!

  • Anonymous

    http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

    “Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

    …Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

    (P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

    Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

    “The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

    Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.

    Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

    “All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

    Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

    “There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

    Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

    “She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

    ———-

    So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

  • Anonymous

    http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

    “Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

    …Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

    (P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

    Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

    “The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

    Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.

    Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

    “All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

    Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

    “There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

    Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

    “She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

    ———-

    So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

  • Anonymous

    http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

    “Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

    …Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

    (P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

    Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

    “The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

    Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.

    Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

    “All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

    Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

    “There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

    Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

    “She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

    ———-

    So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

  • Anonymous

    http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

    “Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

    …Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

    (P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

    Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

    “The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

    Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.

    Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

    “All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

    Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

    “There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

    Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

    “She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

    ———-

    So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

  • Anonymous

    http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

    “Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

    …Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

    (P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

    Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

    “The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

    Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.

    Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

    “All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

    Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

    “There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

    Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

    “She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

    ———-

    So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

  • Anonymous

    http://fucknogregfultz.tumblr.com/

    “Greg also had a blog called TheNaniExperience where he would post naked pictures of her and would stalk and follow her after they broke up. Once he was taken to court, he removed the site and his posts from his blog.”

    …Still think this is “free speech”?  Or maybe it’s just another bunch of bullshit in a long line of stalking and harassment.

    (P.S.  Her name is/was on the billboard.)

    Also, I might as well post this here since it’s at the top. This is from an article of the Almagordo News website that’s no longer up there:

    “The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic].”

    Fultz, 35, said he created the organization, National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.), to dispense his pro-life message.

    Fultz said he was inspired to create N.A.N.I. by an event that happened to him.

    “All organizations have a meaning behind them,” he said. “I do not deny that she (a woman named Nani) was the catalyst behind creating this organization. The letters of her name are there for the meaning of value for the reason it was created. It was not created out of spite or out of attack. It’s a meaning for a story for the reason why the group was created.”

    Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.

    “There was a pregnancy, then there wasn’t,” he said, “with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person’s mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization.”

    Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.

    “She was of legal age and consenting.” he said. “I have contacted my congressman and representative about a new bill … and lobby to get started on fathers’ rights. It’s my belief that fathers should have a say regarding pregnancy. Women have all the power when it comes to pregnancy. The men get no say when a woman wants to go and have an abortion without the say of the father. I believe that is wrong because men are 50 percent of the result of the pregnancy. They should have an equal right to their unborn child and decisions regarding it.”

    ———-

    So he knocked up a developmentally disabled 18-year-old (he’s 30-something) and then fucked her up even more by pulling all of this shit. I don’t think this is “free speech” the way everyone who’s commented so far is treating it as.

  • Count Rackula

    I didn’t know that! I just think it’s hilarious to say or type double penetration.  :P I try to do it as often as I possibly can. So I saw DP and my mind just went there. Sorry Pikey! :-)

  • Count Rackula

    John, what in the fuck is this shit? This is one of the most disturbing things I have ever heard of. Literally every minute we are finding out about more and more crazy things this guy has done. He’s fucking obsessed with a developmentally disabled 18 year old. Wow. For some reason I find this guy to be so creepy in an almost dangerous way. I just can’t even imagine what in the fuck goes on in this guy’s head. Holy shit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    I was in false labor all day yesterday. Third time. This is getting old! lol
    Plus, I wanna meet my little guy!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    It doesn’t always work. Want proof? My two kids. haha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    A YEAR? Jesus. My ex lasted nine whole days. And in those nine days he saw her twice. *rolls her eyes* Of course he has plenty of time for other chicks and their kids. Which is fine by me. Leaves us the hell alone, dropped all parental rights. Good riddance to him! we’re better off!
    And you’re right. The ones most vocal about “don’t have an abortion, it’s morally wrong” have no moral qualms about fuckin disappearing on their kids.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    DOUBLE YOU TEE EFF?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    I might get a twitter account, SOLELY to put this dude on blast, where he can see it.

  • Anonymous

    Hey there, Rackula.

    Since this site went down in the midst of me posting, I’m finding more and more shit about this fucking…piece of shit psycho bastard that it’s making me a bit ill…but I’ll get through it (his blog is endless and his temper and stalking is evident).

    Nani, the girl (whose name is everywhere now), posted on a baby site this message almost a year ago:

    “Posted 06/15/2010
    Me and my bf are expecting, and we’re excied but it took me coaxing. At first, I was concerned about how I would be able to take care of my child. Let me explain….when I was 7, I went into a coma, and it left me with many ‘issues’. I lose my balance easily, I am paralyzed on the left side of the face, and it is hard to understanernd me sometimes. But the most concerning thing of all, I have severe tremors. I will have surgery to try to correct this when I’m 21, but by the time I give birth I’ll only be 20. Not to mention the fact that I have been hurt so many times due to my weight that the idea of extra is unbearable. My bf is 15 years older than me and has been told he could never have children. So, of course he always wanted to keep it. It was so unplanned and I’m so unprepared(and I’m against abortion unless you’ve been raped) that the first thing I thought was ‘I’ll give it up for adoption.’ But his want for a kid compelled him to talk me into it. But after talking to my parents, I’ve gone back to my initial concerns. If you knew me, you’d know it kills me to do anything that might PO or hurt someone’s feelings. How do I bring it up? Also my mom was saying that I could give it up and let him adopt it. Would that make a completely horrible person?”

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    Poor girl, with all that she’s been through now this douche is doing THIS  to her? At least she’s not with him anymore but he is still causing her harm.

  • Anonymous

    I guess I didn’t link it here yet, but this guy “dated” another young one for a very brief time and then the day after he announced they were an official couple she told him to fuck off.  He didn’t take that well, and posted their AIM conversation:

    http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2009/07/single-mom-against-world_03.html

    I would guess that “no”, “fuck off” and “leave me alone” aren’t in his realm of comprehension.

    I’m sure there’s more shit like this in his journal, but I’m just sick of the sick-assed misogynistic bullshit jokes he likes to share.  I’m stuck reading the thousands of comments here:

    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/alamogordo-nm/TNKT2P0L7TL6M52P9/p11

    I don’t know which page I’m on but damn it, I WILL read every freaking comment!

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    I understand that, my point was that even though the medical records say “abortion” it is known by medical professionals that it is in fact a miscarriage. So if she needed to prove that it was a miscarriage there wouldn’t be an issue.

    If I were this girl and I had in fact had a miscarriage I would try to get on Nancy Grace, since we all know how she can stay on a subject FOR EVA, and show the world what a knob this guy really is.

    Ok, no I wouldn’t, but I still think it’s a good idea.

  • Anonymous

    Say what now?  Linkies, please?

  • Anonymous

    Em down below commented that he’s been stalking 10-13-year-olds on Neopets (“Young women/girls are coming forward on other coms and claiming this guy was well known for stalking 10-13 year old girls in the Neopets community even as long as a decade ago.”) .  I want to know how true this is.

  • Anonymous

    I guess I would have to have a vagina to have any say on this matter. Sorry for making you bleed from yours.

  • hershey

    Furthermore, they weren’t married!

  • Anonymous

    And just think, he created that page years AFTER he did this to his ex:

    http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2004/03/everybody-everybody-i-tell-you-what.html

  • Anonymous

    No you misunderstood I’m not slamming them because they are supporting abortion. I was just saying how they were being so nonchalant about the issue and stating that there were too many children in the system already ect.. Made me feel they would have no problem working in a slaughterhouse full of babies. It was just a failed attempt at irony.

  • Anonymous

    Oh dear, it sure sounds like HE too is “developmentally disabled”.  Listen to him talk:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-smDo8PXpF4

    Also, he’s not even a real Reverend.  He admits to it:

    http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2009/03/universal-life-church-ulc.html 

    Good G-d WTF did that poor kid Nani get herself into???

  • Hekate

    I followed those links for as long as i could stand it… this guy is a whack job misognyst in the purest sense… cripes i’m still trying to process that blog after reading it 3x…. He either is off his meds or needs to go get some…. maybe therapy and switching to decaf as well….

  • Anonymous

    Go to his YouTube and listen to him speak.  I think he’s developmentally fucked up.

    …Not that that makes all of his fucking behavior excusable.  I think he truly believes that what he’s doing is right, but he’s a literal moron and a sociopathic/psychopathic one to boot.

    ETA: IT NEVER ENDS. He beat up on his ex-wife, too:

    http://gefblogger.blogspot.com/2003/08/well-i-went-to-court-today-over-my.html

  • Hekate

    while he does speak a bit slowly, he’s blog entries border on frantic in their tone. And i agree w you 1000% this guy does believe he’s somehow in the right and he is most definitely socio/psychopathic, hell i’ll throw in narcissistic to boot… did you see his twitter posts asking for info as to where this story and and his name can be found on the web? He wants to know “what corners of the world” he’s showing up in… Him beating his wife sadly isnt a surprise.. i’d say its par for the course for someone like this guy.

  • The Eccentric Celtic

    At least this is a refreshing change from the guys who whine about not wanting the baby and the mother “selfishly” deciding to have the baby and make him pay child support.
    Guys, either way, you want her to have the baby or you don’t, you could prevent pesky matters like this by PUTTING ON A DAMN RUBBER EVERY TIME!!!!   Yeah yeah I know, you “can’t feel it as well” but is 5 to 7 minutes of this worth a heavy decision like this?  (And don’t even try to argue the length of time, I timed you, I know how long it lasts)

  • Anonymous

    ” The plaintiff must be able to prove that the defendant knowingly spread falsehoods, generally speaking.”

    In this context and in this case?  She likely could, with the long history he seems to have with *lying* and being a general asshole.

    Now, read the billboard again, without  the abortion or miscarriage angle.  He is essentially accusing her of murder, and it does not say WHEN she “killed the child”.  Someone with poor English skills or otherwise diminished capacity (or maybe just a normal person, at first glance) might think “Did the mother of this kid murder their child?”  (*Child* being the operative word, the scenario being that the kid had already been born/was he already a month old?).  A person who’s never seen an anti-abortion ad might not recognize it as such, too…and esp. now since he was forced to changed NANI to CANI and take the endorsement of RTLNM off of it.

    I don’t think this would be a difficult win for a good lawyer.  The eyeballs deep situation you throw back at me is a legitimate one, one where some asshole “celebrity” (Canadian, mind you…so not really a real celebrity) threatened me with a libel and defamation suit up in Ontario.  Except that this fucktard didn’t realize that Obama had helped pass through new protections for “free speech” last year just before the guy threatened me, and now Americans don’t have to deal with libel suits filed against them in other countries unless their free speech and libel laws are like ours (that practice is called “libel tourism”, and an example would be some guy in some country with weak protections against libel would go file a libel lawsuit in Britain against an American and try to hold them to the plaintiff-favorable outcome).  And BTW…Canadian libel laws suck (they’re almost as plaintiff-friendly as Britain’s).

  • Anonymous
  • Hekate

    like i said… his blog entries border on frantic…

    he just tweetted about being on o’rielly factor… dont know if he’s a guest or its just the story but he sounds quite pleased with himself.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    LOLOLOL YOU CRAZY ASS ARE THE VOICES AT IT AGAIN???! DP IS SLANG FOR DOUBLE POST/DOUBLE PENETRATION. NOT YOUR INITIALS OMFG LOL I’M DIEING! yeah. whew buddy, you’ve got some issues.

    it was a joke aimed at count, since there was a previous joke about that.

    but thank you, thank you for the good laugh

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    hey i was in Arkansas and missouri the past 4 days.. :P besides you can see all of my I’ds, I have no reason to post as any other id.. my feelings are hurt.. im gonna cry and eat large amounts of reeses peanut butter cups now

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    i always knew you were Bezelbub

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    ahh boobies…… i knew that word was in here soemwhere….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    ahh boobies…… i knew that word was in here soemwhere….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    more population control for the slaves…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    CAN I shoot this fucktard?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    Rights are an illusion

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    theres lots of empty space out there, and maybe even loving parents for kids, unfortunately DD shows us just a slice of those who dont care and how many rotten scumbags walk this earth

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

    hmm must be canadian

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wade through this all…Athena, give it to me quick, what about right to privacy and freedom from harassment? No recourse there?

  • Anonymous

    Okay, first of all, thanks for the compliment.

    Second of all, Hi.

    Third of all,Whoa, you guys are still talking about this stuff? Come now. I don’t think I’ve posted on here in like 7 months, and we’re still on this? Time warp…  :P

  • Anonymous

    Scratch that. Okay. I’m mostly caught  up. She should still be able to sue for infliction of the emotional distress…I think. Unless I’m missing something.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s post a billboard of all your personal shit, too, then. So you can “get over yourself.” One big billboard of every lie you’ve ever told, etc. We’ll include a big picture of your naked butt, too, because you need to own up to all those weird hairy moles you’re so ashamed of. By the way, your logic is broken. If she told her friends she miscarried, maybe that’s because the whole matter is her own personal business, and not theirs.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, cheers! It was all pretty funny, sorry to say so, Pikeman. Zeke the dog/cousin, Zeke the dog who was in fact named after the cousin. Which was confusing for everyone, since they all lived in the same house. Yeah, those were good times.

    But, oh well. It WAS ages ago…

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    mmmmmmmmm peanut butter cups. they don’t sell those in brazil… or mt dew… or dr. pepper… or gallons of ice cold milk… i’d take a flight home just to pig out for a week!

  • Anonymous

    This psycho looks like he’s going to eat the fake baby shape he’s, um, holding.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, thanks for posting all these deets. Very informative. Dude is a total freak. And, sorry, why did anyone ever have sex with/date him? Oh, right, because she was a developmentally disabled 18 year old.

    He should rename his “N.A.N.I” organization “B.A.R.F” and “Y.E.S.I.D.O.S.U.C.K”

  • Anonymous

    LOL. When I was living in Scotland one semester, I made my husband mail me a big bottle of Ranch dressing. Heavy/expensive to ship…but I missed it.

  • Athena

    Okay, yeah.  You haven’t been “eyeballs deep” in defamation suits.  Your second attempt at understanding my ridiculously simple perspective is a fail.  Third time’s a charm, though…

    1.)  He would have to be a proven intentional liar.

    2.) She was not specifically named in the billboard (which may not completely disqualify her, but WILL make any case more difficult).

    3.) She would have to establish tangible loss (or reasonably anticipated tangible loss) as a result of the billboard.

    Hope we’re clear, now.  And, yes, both Canada and England have more plaintiff-friendly defamation laws… they also don’t have freedom of speech like we do.  

  • Anonymous

    This guy is a sick fucker…

  • Count Rackula

    If there is anyone who does not love boobs, then it’s a good possibility that they just hate America.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm…maybe Obama can use that in an anti-terrorism slogan.

  • Count Rackula

    It would be the best anti-terrorism slogan EVER! I think I know who I need to write a letter to today…

  • Anonymous

    He IS bipolar (said it somewhere in his blog, if someone else already mentioned this…sorry).  However I don’t find that a valid excuse for his writing style, unless he is manic and under (non) medicated.

  • Anonymous

    Legal or not? Don’t know. Although we did have something similar here in Pa only involved a sign on private property stating a person (who was never named in the sign) was HIV positive. Pretty much, the sign was removed..but only after pressure from the media. 

    Now, is this guy a huge mother fucking dick? Oh hell yeah. 

    Abortion or not, he even claims he doesn’t know. Is he just trying to get back an ex? Is it over the fact that she had an abortion, lost the baby, dumped his fat ugly ass, or told people about the small dick that he has. Not a clue. And yeah, wouldn’t matter he is still a dick! 

    Good luck getting laid again buddy. You just made damn sure that girl will think twice about sleeping with you.

  • Anonymous

    If a man doesn’t want a baby there are things that can be done help lessen those chances. Condoms for one, not 100% effected but better than just going bare back with a girl who may or may not be on birth control. Not good enough and still horny, ask her to suck you off. Just remember to return the favor. :) 

  • Anonymous

    If a man doesn’t want a baby there are things that can be done help lessen those chances. Condoms for one, not 100% effected but better than just going bare back with a girl who may or may not be on birth control. Not good enough and still horny, ask her to suck you off. Just remember to return the favor. :) 

  • Hekate

    Hey John… did you happen to come across the blog entry from the girlfriend written at the time she was pregnant??? I thought i had saved the link but apparently not. It’s very telling from her point of view… she talks about her disability, her fear about carrying to term safely and his joy over the pregnancy overriding any concern for her health (MY interpretation). If you did happen across it and can link that would be awesome… when i get back later today I’m going to backtrack and look for it…..

  • Anonymous

    The “organization” at the bottom of the ad used to be called “N.A.N.I.” (instead of what it is now, “CANI”);  the original ad also was sponsored by Right to Life New Mexico.  Once they found out that his organization was bogus and just an acronym for her name (her name is Nani), they demanded out of the billboard.  This billboard is all HIS doing, it’s not a statement about pro-life, it’s targeted harassment of an ex.  Even now that the “org” is changed, the damage is done and those in Alamo know who he is and what he is really doing.

  • Anonymous

    Athena, you DON’T have to prove tangible loss.  And yes, I have been deep in the Canadian (and one U.S.) libel accusations.***

    1)  Proving him a liar will NOT be hard at all, given his past  and what he’s doing to Nani.  Have you not read his blog?  Did you not read the Topix threads?  

    2)  YES, she WAS named in the billboard.  Are yo just too stubborn to read what I write or Hell, even research it yourself?

    3)  For the second time in this post to reiterate and to emphasize, *you do not have to prove tangible loss* in order to get relief from someone  in a libel and defamation lawsuit.  I mean damn, just about every definition of libel that I’ve read includes something to this effect (this is California’s definition., but New Mexico has criminal libel on the books):  “A libel is a defamation expressed in written or other graphic form that tends to blacken the memory of the dead or that tends to injure a living person’s reputation and thereby expose the person to public hatred, contempt or ridicule, or financial injury or to impeach any person’s honesty, integrity, virtue, or reputation.” 

    Do you read that?  Do you see the “or”s in that sentence?  I.e., YOU DON’T NEED TO PROVE “tangible” or loss.  What you’re yammering on about has no application in this case (though it has applications in the cases I’m involved in in Canada;  the claimant thinks that we’re all libelling him and causing his business to lose money because of it [actually, this is the same idea that another guy who I'm sure is on the verge of accusing the animal rights groups of doing in protesting his puppy mill puppy business...he's starting to peep up about possible libel/defamation crap, and I do NOT look forward to that]).  And to prove something libellous/defamatory and be able to seek relief, in Nani’s case, all she has to do is prove that *some form* of damage occurred from the published statement, and it can be tangible like job or money, OR the damage may have been intangible such as the loss of reputation and respect in a community (more “or”s…I’m sure it’s confusing to you, but them’s the facts).  Nani should have no problem proving that this is nothing but a heinous vendetta against her, with Greg’s record of lies, OTHER vendettas and rage (AND he has a record for this and other things).

    I’m done with you on this topic.  I have explained what I can.  If you cannot comprehend libel law (libel & defamation law) and you think that *I* can’t and I’ve just been making up shit, then good fucking luck to you.  I’m tired of talking to a brick wall, and you can believe what you want about the shit I’ve done with these lawsuits on my end (I know you’re a mod or whatever, but you know what?  You’re not right on this.).

    ***FTR, I was able to get the fucker in Canada to BACK OFF from the woman in Florida who he was threatening a libel/defamation suit against by telling the asshole that he had to come down here to the U.S. to file his suit since U.S. citizens don’t have to give a shit about libel/defamation suits filed against them in Canada or any other country that doesn’t have good “First Amendment” or “First Amendment”-like protections for its citizens.

  • Anonymous

    This is indeed a case of harassment/defamation and she could get relief if she sought it.  Right now since this hit the media within the last month, things are snowballing fast, so facts and crap need to be sorted out before her lawyers and friends decide what to do next.  As it is,  she’s been granted an order of protection from the fucker and he’s been ordered to take the billboard down or face jail.  He seems to want to face jail though.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I have a screencap of it and save the page.  ;)  Let me upload the screencap…I blocked out her name and face on it because it’s got her last name and her face, so…just a sec, I have to find where I put it, LOL.

  • Anonymous

    I highlighted the part she talks about her disabilities, too.

    I believe it shows how he coerced her into it, too, because twice in that passage she mentions how he really wanted it/”after coaxing” and lying to her about him thinking he would not be able to have kids/thought he was sterile (SHYEAH, right, not from his blog posts where he posted his conversation with his baby mama).

  • Hekate

    i cant even begin to count the ways i love you right now…. thank you thank you!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    “Although we did have something similar here in Pa only involved a sign on private property stating a person (who was never named in the sign) was HIV positive”

    That falls under the definition of defamation per se, particularly if the accusation/imputation is false.

  • Athena

    Nope, you’re right, John.  I had missed this entirely.  The fact that there’s more than the billboard involved and that the billboard did identify her (I believe that’s what you said), then, yes, she absolutely has a case.

    I was basing my opinion on it only being a billboard that did not identify her.

    We agreed all along that the dude is a psycho. though. :P

  • MISSanthropic

    The mere fact that you refer to the choice of abortion as “murdering babies”, makes it quite clear how you stand on the matter. You going on to refer to it as selfish and all of the other run on sentences that you were spewing is just extra evidence that abortion is obviously NOT ok with you. I was going to respond to the rest of your comment but this is getting repetive and assinine.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry MIS Santhropic I should never have responded to Jessica in the first place. I should have just let her have her say eventhough I didn’t agree with it. Thats how the world works these days anyway.

  • Hekate

    Backing John 100% here… this guy is a narcisstic predator who thinks only of himself and is seemingly loving even the negative attention this has brought…. in fact i am completely surprised he hasnt reared his big ugly head here…. YET

    kinda hoping he does actually….

  • Anonymous

    Good to see you commenting again Sugarglider before my disqus crapped out a few months ago I had not seen you in a long time.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    Me too. The DD will give him the freaking word-beatdown he has coming. I’m so stoked. I cannot wait!

  • Anonymous

    No problemo. 

    BTW, you can’t search her posts on BabyCenter unless you’re a member I don’t think, so I had to do it via Google.  AFAIK, she didn’t even have that many posts at all before they stopped.  She did write that she believed that she got pregnant on May 1st last year and was due in late January, which would’ve made this asshole’s billboard two months off as it is (if the billboard went up in May).

    Also, still reading through his mess of a blog.  I don’t think he understands how to use real punctuation.

  • Anonymous

    Finally.  :P !!!

    In cases like these I like to find out more than what’s on the surface.  I forget what led me towards the Topix forums and the controversy, though.  Maybe it was a Google search or something.

  • Anonymous

    I’m waiting for it, too.  I fucking despise attention-whoring baby men who abuse women like this.  He should feel extremely lucky that he even GOT to stick his dick into someone of the female persuasion, given how fucking fugly and “slow” the guy is (and toothless…I want to say I could blame his “slow” sound in his videos to his lack of teeth, but I can’t because I know of too many people without teeth (my ex-roomate, for one) who sounds perfectly normal when they speak.  Fultz has a full set of fake teeth, AFAIK).

    This guy is so fucking ugly on the inside that it just couldn’t wait to burst out…I bet that’s why his teeth wanted out so badly, LOL

  • Anonymous

    Lucifer Beelezebub I miss that guys comments use to scare the BeeJesus out of me!

  • Anonymous

    Hey Dead If I were a woman and I got prego by this ug meister I would have an abortion to.  After I had said abortion I prolly could not live with myself thinking about this greezmeister and hang myself shortly there after. or turn gay.

  • Hekate

    i have the beer packed ice chest, popcorn and lawnchairs ready… 1st round is on me… let the games begin!!!!

  • Hekate

    lol let the games begin…. i’ll bring the beer

  • Anonymous

    Yeah I should have just left well enough alone after the first comment. I used to think alot differently till my son was born a few years ago I probably would have been saying the same thing as everyone else. I hate to admit it but it has changed me more than I thought it had.

  • Athena

    Yeah, I’d love to deeply research every article that gets posted, but I just can’t.  So thanks for that.

    Oh, and sorry for the pissy mood last night.  I’m the matron of honor in a September wedding, and the bride showed up to my house and promptly melted DOWN.  I mistakenly posted after a bottle of anesthetizing wine.  I envy you men for never having to deal with a bridezilla… especially those who never have to marry one, either.  The upside is that her visits always remind my husband of just how lucky he is. :P

  • Anonymous

    Ha, Bridezilla!

    There are but a few stories that interest me enough to go digging…but like I said, I forget how I ran into this one’s mess. I’m still reading his blog. His sad, messy, pathetic and disgusting blog…it’s more entertaining than fiction, LOL.

  • Hekate

    I think what gets me the most about this guy is his overwhelming ego…. that fact that he has continuously posted all this ‘material’ and somehow thinks it makes him look righteous…. One would think at some point you would look back at it all and think “maybe its me?”. 

  • Anonymous

    I was JUST thinking this exact same thing a couple of minutes ago, after i finally hit the mark in the Topix forums where people start talking about how he lost his case at the hearing;  Greg himself is posting, too.  He said something to the effect of “oh well i knew it, aclu here u come”

    …”Here YOU come” is what caught my eye.  He is SO egocentric that he believes that the ACLU has to come to him (and even if he didn’t “mean it that way”, he wrote it and it cam eout subconsciously).  And as I progress in his journal, the pattern is such:

    – Bawwwww, I’m so lonely and depressed and people h8 me!  *rages against ex wife and women*

    – Oh hay, I got a new girlfriend, life is o.k. now!  She’s beautiful and wonderful and isn’t like the other whores like my whore of an ex-wife!

    – (Not very long later)  Well that was short LOL I knew this would happen, she got an attack of stupidity, look at this shit *posts IM conversation where it’s clear that the girl is being harassed by him*  FUCK YOU TOO YOU STUPID WHORE BITCH CUNT SLUT WOMEN ARE WHORES FUCK YOU FUCK YOU WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH YOU’RE ALL LIKE JENNE!  I’M THREW [sic] WITH ALL OF YOU!

    Now repeat the above at least five or six times and you will know what I’ve been reading (now it’s mostly skimming, since he just doesn’t use punctuation at all) for many hours now.

    Nothing is ever his fault, and these women and everyone else he comes into contact with (he’s raged against the “stupidity” of other non-intimate friends too) are just fucktards.

    I don’t believe he’s schizo (someone on the Topix thread mentioned schizophrenia).  I’ve dealt with schizophrenia and it’s much more erratic and completely spontaneous at times.  This is a pattern of being a fatassed, asshole loser who people can only tolerate for a small amount of time before they realize that he sucks and then they shy away from him/stop talking to him altogether.  If ever there was a person who was born a fucking douchebag, it would be this guy. 

  • Hekate

    I came to the same conclusion after following along as far as i could stand it… which wasnt very long admittedly…  he obviously targets women he thinks SHOULD be grateful he has targetted  ooops i mean CHOSEN them and at the first sign of discord he erupts into rage…. 

  • Anonymous

    I finally reached the end of those Topix threads and his blog, and you’re right.

    Also, he apparently broke his ex-wife’s jaw and killed her dog because she wouldn’t come back to him.   :|

  • Hekate

    the hits just keep on coming w this guy… unreal

  • Hekate

    ugh after reading that app and the answer choices i think i need to go bathe w bleach and a steel wire scrub-brush….

  • DamagedGoods

    This man is creepy to look at and an obvious ass:
    “I’d love to know all the places you see my story in so mention me and the place to let me know all of the corners of the world that I’m in.”

    He’s using his ex’s miscarriage or abortion (I wasn’t there I can’t say which it was but I’m betting it really was a miscarriage; either way he’s a heinous piece of shyte) as a fucking publicity stunt… fuck him with a hurricane of giant steel horse cocks.

    Fuck him for using the loss of a child this way and fuck him for cheapening what men who really did want to have a baby that was aborted go through.

  • Anonymous

    Hi, deadskinmask! Thank you. Here I is. Glad you’re still here. I’ve been reading the articles, but I’ve just been really busy. And since my time of Busy happened to commence with serious fatigue over various idiotic/pointless DD exchanges (I can’t even remember what they were now), it was kind of a perfect storm for adopting STFU mode. :-)

  • Anonymous

    Weird, why does he want to go to jail, do you think? Is he just such a douchetard that he actually thinks he’s waging some sort of “Cause”?

    Two unrelated things:

    (a) I’m curious to know how much it cost the dumbass douche to rent the billboard space.

    (b) Not that it matters, but it sounds to me (from his own words) like she actually did have a miscarriage, and that there’s not actually any reason for him to be saying anything about abortion — apart from his interest in harassing her.

  • Anonymous

    Weird, why does he want to go to jail, do you think? Is he just such a douchetard that he actually thinks he’s waging some sort of “Cause”?

    Two unrelated things:

    (a) I’m curious to know how much it cost the dumbass douche to rent the billboard space.

    (b) Not that it matters, but it sounds to me (from his own words) like she actually did have a miscarriage, and that there’s not actually any reason for him to be saying anything about abortion — apart from his interest in harassing her.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LGW3DYRQPPJY4HVS76LMQCT3HA Blue

    wow!! He paid for a billboard sign, b/c he’s pissed!! Cool!!! That’s what’s up!! That’s kinda pricey, I wonder if she regrets her decision, sounds like he could’ve paid for the baby either way, I’m jus sayin………………….

  • Anonymous

    Sorry it’s late.  I’ve honestly been away and researching this and have also been talking with this asshole’s ex-wife.

    Seems to me he would want to face jail in order to prove a point and not much else.  I would GUESS that since he’s done jailtime before that a two-week stint for not pulling down the sign would be nothing.  However, I’m thinking that maybe at the last minute he might take it down because two weeks in jail means two weeks away from the computer and THAT I don’t think he can handle.

    a)  It cost him $1,300.

    b)  It was a miscarriage because she dumped him and he harassed the Hell out of her.  Her body was already not equipped to hold on to a fetus (disabilities and tremors).  He himself says he didn’t know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion when he planned the sign and still doesn’t know.  He and his friends complain that Nani “never contacted him” after she left him, but apparently that isn’t true either, at least, the way they make it sound.  She didn’t contact him because he is a violent, abuse piece of shit.

    Oh, and I learned that this fucker killed his ex-wife’s dog too.  After his ex-wife left him, he kept her dog and strangled it to death and tried to say that it was run over on the highway.

    The stories I have now…after having read sooooo much about him…it’s quite sickening, the “real story”.  It’s no wonder RTL New Mexico pulled their sponsorship…no organization, even a creepy pro-life one, would ever want to be associated with this whackjob stalker psycho fuck.

  • Anonymous

    There is no way Greg would’ve been able to care for that child.  He is often jobless, sometime homeless and always bouncing from home to home.

    She doesn’t regret any decision (AFAIK) besides hooking up with the asshole in the first place.  Some of her friends stated that she behaved “relieved” when she wasn’t pregnant anymore (likely because of her health…she’s developmentally disabled).  The friends around Greg say he’s got his own disabilities, but I wouldn’t say so.  He’s just got an awful speech impediment.  The rest of him works fine, aside from being a psychotic animal-killing ex-girlfriend stalker.

    Go read his blog if you want to know just how awesomely sweet this fucker really is.

    Google “GEFBLOG” and you’ll find it.  His Twitter has some real gems too (his user name is prdpgn ).

  • Anonymous

    One would think that after the FIRST “oopsies”, one would’ve switched tactics regarding protection.  :P ~~~

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    I did!!! Apparently, I’m just way too fertile.

  • Anonymous

    Men have rights when it comes to their children too. This billboard
    didn’t violate anything. It doesn’t have any identifying information
    about who this woman is. I have no clue who she is, but with the fuss
    she’s making I’m sure a few million people are trying to google her
    right now. I’m happy to see a man standing up for their rights. I would
    never have an abortion and I’m stunned to see so many men brow beaten
    and terrified to have an opinion. What ever happened to equal rights?
    And I’m not saying this because I’m religious. I’m agnostic. I just love
    babies and animals more than anything and think abortions are
    disgusting. If he thinks she had an abortion then I’m sure he has a
    reason.

  • Paula Bryder

    The original used her name as initials for his phony organization. This creep is dangerous & FTR, there is no proof that his victim aborted.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for posting all this. Fuck’s sake…what a psycho creepazoid. Add dog-killer to the list. And, indeed, it seems that really she probably just had a miscarriage; he’s just pissed because she doesn’t want to be in touch with him. *STALKER.* Yeah, add stalker to his list of undesirable qualities. He can’t believe he ever got someone to fuck him, and now he thinks he owns her. Nice fella.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for posting all this. Fuck’s sake…what a psycho creepazoid. Add dog-killer to the list. And, indeed, it seems that really she probably just had a miscarriage; he’s just pissed because she doesn’t want to be in touch with him. *STALKER.* Yeah, add stalker to his list of undesirable qualities. He can’t believe he ever got someone to fuck him, and now he thinks he owns her. Nice fella.

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