Bond Denied For Teen Suspect In Videotaped McDonald’s Beating

“I don’t know why people are calling me a hero,” Thoms said. “I just did what I felt was right. What would you do if you saw the same thing? How would you feel if you were being attacked and other people just sat back and watched it happen? The whole incident makes me sick.”

I HEART MRS. VICKY L. THOMS
This story says so much about society today. Mrs. Thoms generation will be the end of a majority morality and we will be left with the scumbags with cell phone vidoes. Very sickening thought.

Haha bitches! Who’s laughin’ now? Your Karma train is getting closer by the day.

After listening to the victim’s account regarding how this mess got started, I am also pretty sure this was not a hate crime.

I wonder if the fired employee who videotaped the incident has grounds to sue the McDonalds. I have mixed feelings about this employee since, gratefully, he documented the event, but he also acted like an ass. Why he didn’t jump in to help could be for a variety of reasons, but legally it wasn’t his responsibility. He may not have jumped in because didn’t know what weapons, if any at the time, were on the bodies of the persons partaking in the assault. There, in hindsight, appeared to be no weapons.

Ms. Thoms is a remarkable person and citizen.

Baltimore is a rough town with a huge population of good and honest people. The problem is the people who make it rough: generally gang minded people. I actually love visiting Baltimore, but I am uneasy being there at night. Almost every “nice” area (block x block) is across the street from a dangerous area.

I beg to differ with the last quote: It is the police officers’ jobs to maintain order within their jurisdiction (including areas without a 7-11, Dunkin Donuts, Mr. Donuts, and other sellers of coffee and donuts) with the assistance of the eyes of the public (i.e., 911).

Eh, I have a dear friend who was going to school there but hates it. Not because of the school, but because of Baltimore itself. And the other person I know in Baltimore is a rancid, racist piece of shit animal abuser…so I don’t really have anything great to say about it (oh, also…a friend I went to high school with had someone get shot in front of him when he went to visit/check out the area for art school…he decided not to go…and THAT was back in 1990).

““I don’t know why people are calling me a hero,” Thoms said. “I just did what I felt was right. What would you do if you saw the same thing? How would you feel if you were being attacked and other people just sat back and watched it happen? The whole incident makes me sick.””

Miss Thoms only has to watch an episode of What Would You Do? (on ABC, I think). She would be surprised at how many people DON’T help when it’s evident that someone needs help. Hardly anyone would help a lost child alone on a street, hardly anyone would help a homeless man who passes out suddenly in the middle of a sidewalk…people are dicks.

Also, thanks for the update.

I don’t Mrs. Toes, that face looks like it could derail even the Karma train.

Even in recent years there have been some shootings that make no sense and no one has been caught. I am sure this played on the psyche of the majority of people in the restaurant.

Stop calling me Mrs. Toes. I only told Dirty Dave to call me that for a joke. I’m not your teacher or your friends Gramma. I like you so you can call me PT or Parrot.

Most of my family comes from Baltimore and still lives there. They cleared out of Florida.

Perhaps, but at his age, he is old enough to know right from wrong. And the ones just standing around letting this happen? I would fire them too. I wouldn’t want such self absorbed morally deficit people working for me. At 22, Vernon Hackett is a legal adult. This is not about “perfect” relatives or “perfect” people. This is about what is right, and what is wrong. If a teen doesn’t know it is wrong to watch something like this and do nothing, then as a parent, you have failed. As long as we view this type of behavior as “kids being kids” “they are immature” ***pat them on the head and accept that they have the mentality of a cabbage*** so it is excusable; then this type of crime will continue. I have no patience with that thought process.

Perhaps, but at his age, he is old enough to know right from wrong. And the ones just standing around letting this happen? I would fire them too. I wouldn’t want such self absorbed morally deficit people working for me. At 22, Vernon Hackett is a legal adult. This is not about “perfect” relatives or “perfect” people. This is about what is right, and what is wrong. If a teen doesn’t know it is wrong to watch something like this and do nothing, then as a parent, you have failed. As long as we view this type of behavior as “kids being kids” “they are immature” ***pat them on the head and accept that they have the mentality of a cabbage*** so it is excusable; then this type of crime will continue. I have no patience with that thought process.

I couldn’t resist, sorry, just kind of a tongue in beak comment. ; )

Polis should sue the Mc Donalds. Im pretty sure a good personal injury lawyer could find a case with the fact that not one employee or otherwise stepped in to help. It would be interesting to know if any of them actually called the police in this incident, or if it was a patron or even Mrs.Thoms.? If it was a patron, then Polis needs to sue the ass off that resturaunt! I would.

Does little douche bag blue have a case to sue the store JohnQ? Seriously? You heard this sociopath little putz on that vid. Just because he was the guy with the vid doesn’t make him any kind of hero. I could see if he was appalled, or was simultaneously calling authorities, but his conduct is disgusting, and it would be a greater liability NOT to fire him! Also, it is not as though he wanted to give this recording to authorities. No, he wanted to enjoy it himself and see how many hits he could garner on youtube.

You are right Pikeman. In this day and age, the next generations of parents arent being raised with apathy, morality or spines apparently. It is sad that when you have able bodied young men nearby, you have the elderly lady with titanium rods in her back stepping up and being a man. Is it any suprize really? Look at the style sense of this generation. The boys look more like skinny little bitches than the girls do any more!

One question I havent seen anyone ask or anyone else show, “Where the fuck are the parents of these disgusting little degenerate shitstains?!” The parents should be tried right along side of the kids in this to make an example of them! Maybe if you start trying the parents along side of the children for the same offenses, they will take parenting a little more seriously. Obviously, morality and simply giving a shit out of love doesn’t cut it.

haha,tongue in beak

I think that is the best idea I have heard throughout this whole post!!

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*standing ovation*

I hear what you are saying, but, again, this is a legal and not a moral act. Maryland does not allow employers to fire their employees because one day their actions seem unpleasant. Maryland is not a fire at will for any reason state, unlike Virginia where the boss can abuse the employees and there is no problem for anyone (the boss), but the employees.

If out courts were based on the whim of moral decisions we wouldn’t need laws. I think the manager of McDonalds shot from the hip just to do anything and not appear responsible himself for not calling 911 while managing the restaurant.

Yes, but did he break a law?

I disagree. I don’t know the legalities of if MD’s employment laws, but if an employee displays conduct unbecoming of an establishment (which I am sure this statute could and should be used in this case) that could detrimentally affect this businesses income then yeah, I bet he can fire this scum. I know if I lived there and if I frequented McDonald’s I would never eat there again if he DIDN’T fire that asshole.

*Applauding Mrs. Thoms*

Those girls were DEFINITELY looking for a fight. Little shitbags. Ate too many paint chips as kids for sure.

If enough people get riled over this it could impact that restaurants revenue. Like the Dominos in my area that the two idiots posted a video of them messing with food and posted it on youtube. They were both fired and faced criminal charges, even though they alleged it was food they were going to throw away…that Dominos also still closed. The point is, that at some point, people who are morally deficit must answer for it and accept responsibility for their actions. There are consequences…did he have the legal right to video that attack instead of helping…***shrugs*** I guess he did, now he has to face the consequences of his callous actions.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

Videotaping defiling food and acting like an ass is different than videotaping a fight between 3 girls and acting like an ass.

In the neighborhood where this happened, a transexual has no value so I doubt the business would suffer.

what does breaking the law have to do with him being fired? you are aware you don’t have to break the law to lose your job, are you not?

has it crossed your mind in any fashion he was a mcdonald’s EMPLOYEE – therefore at the very LEAST he should have been WORKING. not filming an altercation with his cell phone.

am i missing something – i haven’t read a single article that discloses the soul purpose this man was fired. if you have the proof by all means post it, until then – keep in mind that just because the person who fired him expressed how terrible his behavior was, doesn’t mean he was fired because of it.

““I don’t know why people are calling me a hero,” Thoms said. “I just did what I felt was right. What would you do if you saw the same thing? How would you feel if you were being attacked and other people just sat back and watched it happen? The whole incident makes me sick.”

She added that she was not aware that Polis was transgender at the time and it wouldn’t have mattered to her is she had. Even with a bad back that has two metal rods and eight screws inserted in her spine, she would do it again. “It’s about human decency,” Thoms said. “I just keep having visions of someone nearly getting killed just for trying to go to the bathroom in McDonald’s. What has this world come to?” Thoms also plans on following through with charges (her getting punched is one of the second degree assault charges filed against Brown) against both teens to ensure this doesn’t happen to someone else.”

*applause*

I wish I could say for certain that I would have done what this woman did.

I know I have stepped in on occasion, but I know that just as often I have been late for an appointment and assumed someone else would do something, or uncertain whether the old drunkard was “just” drunk or really in distress.

And I also know that the one time I really went out of my way for another person in the nightlife of Reading, that other person went on to get violently raped that same night. It doesn’t help to know that I had offered her money for a taxi. Not really.

Baltimore can surprise you. Let’s watch.

Baltimore can surprise you. Let’s watch.

SEND THOSE SPOILED LIL BRATS WHO THINK THEY ARE BAD ASSES TO AFRICA WITH NO FOOD, WATER, PHONES, COMPUTERS ETC AND SEE HOW BADASS THEY ARE WITHOUT ALL THEIR MATERIAL POSSESSIONS AND LIL ‘FRIENDS’ GIVE THEM A LIL SHOCK THERAPY ON HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE AND SOME PEOPLE TODAY JUST DON’T GET IT, THEY DON’T APPRECIATE ANY OF THEIR FREEDOMS AND THINK THAT WHAT THEY HAVE IS BECUASE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO NOT BECAUSE OF PRIVILEDGE. IT IS DISGUSTING TO PEOPLE JUST DON’T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE ANYMORE…

They picked a fight with her and their justification was that she was a man using the woman’s room. They said it multiple times in the video… how do you see this has nothing to do with her being a trans?

Maryland is an At-Will employment state, meaning an employer can fire an employee for no reason at all if they want to. So long as it cannot be proven that an employee is being discriminated against by being fired (race, age, gender, whistle-blowing, etc.), the employer doesn’t even need to cite a reason.

There is no suit, here. McD’s was acting fully within their right as an employer in MD when they fired this little shit.

You are right. My thoughts were twisted with collective bargaining agreements. Unions are pretty strong in Maryland or at least they have some very strong unions (the or is inclusive).

McDonalds has not been organized – though they should for their shitty work environments.

I still think the kid can make a fuss and possibly get his way. Baltimore is a different world.

I am still on the fence about what to think about the possible termination of employees for just standing there. Laughing is just ridiculous, but standing there, and yes, even filming it, is probably all they could do.

We read stories all of the time about how employees get fired left and right for trying to do the right thing and stop (legit) crimes or assaults. The company comes up with some reason for the policy and kicks the employee to the curb. OOOORRRR you have the flip-side like in this case. The employees do nothing because that is what they are told they have to do or else lose their job. Then, the company gets embarrassed by the fact they look like insensitive jackasses and blame the employees.

Would I risk my job to help someone else? Yes. In one form or another, I would help. At least that’s what I hope I would do…having a job is like having air to breathe these days. People don’t mess around with their employment. I don’t have a job right now anyway though so I just sit here suffocating lol.

It’s very sad how people don’t have that instinct to help anymore. I was at the Social Security office a few months ago and sitting in the waiting area. The guy (about 20 yrs old) a few seats from me went into a full seizure. I quickly glanced around me and got down on the floor asap to help (I have severe back problems, but my brain didn’t even register my pain). There were about 25 other people in the room and NO ONE did anything. I even yelled for this guy’s mother (who was taking her turn talking to an employee) and she stared and me and stood there. The employee later told me that she seemed more interested in getting her business taken care of instead. There are other things she said that makes her a waste of flesh too.

I was furious that the security guard did nothing. I just lost my job of 8.5 yrs of being a security officer and we are always first responders. He didn’t even take my name for his report as being the primary responder to the scene. I believe it was another employee who actually called the medics.

Most people are useless.

Been there first hand and I will agree – our society is fucked.

I try to look at it this way though…at least I don’t live in the Republic of the Congo. Life looks a bit sunnier when I put it in that perspective.

Kudo’s to you

As long as there are people like Mrs. Thoms and you in this world – there is hope.

This is a bit off topic, but… a few months back I went to the grocery store. There was a fire truck and an ambulance outside. When I walked in, I turned left towards the office – to see them working on someone on the floor. It didn’t look good. I walked through the store doing something I rarely do – praying. A woman I’d never met before came down the aisle I was in shaking her head. She whispered to me “He didn’t make it”… and I started bawling. She asked me if I knew him. I said “No. My mom just died last month and this brought back (or maybe just intensified) all that pain. I feel so bad for his family and those who were trying to save him.” She hugged me right there in the store and walked me out to my car, blocking my view of him laying there. Had I seen just ONE person filming, smirking, laughing or ogling this man’s untimely death – I think I would have killed them. Instead, every single person in that store was somber. Everyone had compassion and respect. THAT is how people are supposed to behave. While walking me out, this woman said that people in the store gave the man CPR until the paramedics arrived. All tolled, they tried to revive this man (I believe she said he was mid 50′s) for about 20-30 minutes. He died from a heart attack.

yeah, I guess the case for a hate crime isn’t as strong as I thought it was after seeing the video originally.

I would so love to rip that wig off her head and give her a feel to what it is like to be drag across a room.

Well then, your jackass friend is creating a society in which no one will help him and his precious family, either. Someday he’ll be crying for help and everyone around him will just … walk away, proud of themselves for “minding their own business.”

Our true “family” is … everybody. We should all be looking out for each other. That’s what my Dad taught *me*.

Preach it on the mountain Domino.  I saw the second video where she beat that person into a seizure for “looking at my man” or some such bullshit.  I hate HER, all the people with her, and all the people who didn’t do shit – then told them to “run” cause she having a seizure – like actually trying to help the bitch escape the police.

If she’s old, then it only restores my belief that old people in their generation were good people and still are.  We have come SO FAR DOWN.  In just the past 45 years or so, it’s disgusting.  We have allowed apathy, tolerance, and acceptance of SHIT become so prevalent, there’s almost nothing good left !!

SCREW THAT.  When a MAN videotapes 1 or 2 women beating a much smaller woman into a seizure, while LAUGHING and doing nothing.  HE’S GONE.   He could have stood off to the side saying “stop that, the police blah blah” SOMETHING, even without risking his pussy neck.  He should have stepped in there and pushed that crazy bitch off.

i like mrs toes..lol

Look here man, my husband was head of human resources for a good sized company.  They had fired a guy for pulling a KNIFE on somebody, for gross insubordination, and that mother fucker got to keep his job per the labor board.  And TENNESSEE is a no fault state. That is supposed to mean you can fire anyone at any time without giving a reason.   If you can’t get fired for pulling a knife, what the hell DO you have to do.

And how about the times that every single person expects someone else to call 911, so no one does.  THAT HAS HAPPENED.  The person who videotaped it has a picture shown above.  He looks like a 30 year old man, and a dumbass.

Well just what do they allow people to be fired for.  Fucking off at work?  How about that?  Filming something with his camera phone, playing around, How about “warning a criminal to leave before the police got there, because they are on their way”  aiding and abetting a criminal, is that good enough?   Because I cannot believe there isn’t a middle ground between “employee is a stupid fuck up jackass” AND THIS IS A SERVICE INDUSTRY, so actions of employees affect your business *AND* having to commit a crime to get fired. 

You keep saying “if out of courts”  this doesn’t have shit to do with court, the labor board is not a court of law.  Labor laws usually prohibit people from filing lawsuits IN COURT.  You must use the labor board.    This dick brought BAD PUBLICITY to his restaurant OBVIOUSLY posted that video online himself, left his post, didn’t work, and helped a criminal to leave safely. If that isn’t enough maryland can suck my dick.

Just found an article about this bitch and she was sentenced to 10 years for this hate crime with 5 years suspended. Her little 14 year old accomplice is in juvenile  and could be there until she is 21.

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/29168043/detail.html

What the fuck was that whale doing hanging around with a 14 year old anyway? Creepy.