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Police Use Pepper Spray On Pissed Off Second GraderLakewood, CO – Police and school officials in Lakewood say a healthy dose of pepper spray was the appropriate response to an unruly second-grader’s all-out temper tantrum on February 22. Authorities say the boy was blasted twice after he refused to drop a one-foot piece of sharpened wood trim he had been threatening to stab his teachers with.

According to Lakewood Police spokesman Steve Davis, 8-year-old Aiden had apparently caused a little trouble on the bus that morning while en route to Glennon Heights Elementary School. Once in the classroom, the boy began pitching a fit and threatened to kill his teacher and another staff member. Aiden began spitting at the teachers and tearing up the classroom. Scared, the teachers barricaded themselves in another room and called police for backup.

Aiden reportedly continued with his fit, throwing chairs and a TV at the door. He then ripped a piece of moulding off the wall and threatened to stab the teachers. “I wanted to make something sharp if they came out because I was so mad at them,” Aidan said in an interview with 9News. “I was going to try to whack them with it.”

Aiden was still armed with the stick when police arrived. When told to drop the stick, Aiden reportedly screamed, “Get away from me you fuckers!” An officer again demanded that he drop the stick. When he didn’t, he was sprayed twice with pepper spray (he blocked the first shot with a piece of cardboard), and subsequently placed in handcuffs.

Defending the officer’s decision to pepper spray the boy, Davis said that doing so likely prevented the 82-pound boy from injuring his fellow classmates, police and himself. “You’ve got teachers barricading themselves in a room. They are obviously frightened,” Davis said. “I think they not only made the right choice, they made a great choice that day to use the pepper spray.”

School officials backed the officer’s decision, too, claiming it needed to be done. “He was violent, he was verbal, he was abusive,” Community Superintendent Peg Kastberg said. “The police were very thoughtful and thorough about the actions that they took.”

Though she doesn’t deny that her son was acting like a complete asshole, the boy’s mother, identified only as “Mandy,” believes the situation could have been handled differently. “I’m sure what he was doing wasn’t right, but he’s 8-years-old,” she said. “They walked in, asked him to drop the stick, and then sprayed him with the spray…I think it’s excessive.” She says police have been called on her son at school twice before, and both times the officers were able to talk to the boy and get him calmed down.

Mandy claims Aiden is being seen by a doctor, but at this point, the kid hasn’t been diagnosed with any kind of mental illness and isn’t currently taking any medications. Aiden admits that he has anger problems, adding, “Just kind of like whenever anybody upsets me,” he said. “Like I just kind of want to tear them apart… I think it’s not ever going to go away…It’s just who I am.”

Placed on a mental health hold after the incident, Aiden has since been transferred to a school for children with behavioral issues. Because of his age, no charges were filed.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Star-Sizu/100000944071562 Star Sizu

    What’s the problem with using non-lethal take down, and non-physical method?

    If police uses lethal force, I might say their ovredoing, if they went physical, either the kid or a officer could have been hurt.

    Pepper spray doesn’t cause any long term damage as far as I know, and using a stun-gun on a kid(A Big Kid it sounds like, 82 Pound) could be seen as excessive.

    I felt the officer took control of the situation in the best method possible.

  • Anonymous

    Well, since they were able to talk him down TWICE previously, that’s what they ought to do. Cops have been called twice before on this kid…and it’s just a little anger problem? I was about to come in here saying pepper spray is a little extreme, considering that shit HURTS! Given the situation, though…It sounds like that’s what they had to do.

    I’d say get him serious help, quickly, before he beats a classmate to death for looking at him funny.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sade-May/1653757709 Sade May

    he blocked the first shot with a piece of cardboard?
    What 8 year old do you know that knows to block an attack like that?

    His mom needs mental help as well if she thinks this 8 year old is harmless. He was STILL angry and trying to cause harm when the cops got there, most kids lose interest in things after 5 minutes. Come on lady you are raising a devil spawn.

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    “i think they treated him like a common criminal”…… oh man haha. if that little bastard has had the police called on him 3 TIMES already in the second fucking grade – he’s well on his way to career criminal.

    “they talked him down before”….. yeah and this time it was time for a good dose of the real world, that’s what happens when you act like a fucking lunatic. maybe the problem was all they did before was “talk him down”, what real message does that send if discipline isn’t enforced at home?

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • pikeman

    Nothing like a good dose of pepper spray to get some crazy, temper throwing kid to chill the fuck out.

  • Parrot Toes

    Well, may as well get the practice in while they’re young. If the little shit is on a path to the lifestyle of the fucked and criminal, then when is an appropriate age to start showing the consequences of such behaviour? Maybe, just MAYBE, this will be a lesson learned. Doubtful but meh, I’m not going to complain for them trying.

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Why wasn’t the mother called first??

  • Parrot Toes

    I’m willing to lay bets that mom should be pepper sprayed too. Perhaps whatever is done to her son, should be done to her every time (dad also, if around). This kid is probably a product of a lack of decent parenting.

  • Parrot Toes

    Hell, let’s just do unto mom instead of the kid (until he is at least around 14 maybe). Perhaps it would convince her ass to use some effective disciplinary measures on him.

  • Anonymous

    I would imagine that mommy dearest was called and that she probably said there was nothing she could do to control her child and that it’s the schools problem. Yet another child dumped on the school to raise but not discipline.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Jaded

    I’m guessing time was an issue here. They were dealing with an irate, out of control kid armed with a sharpened stick and a “kill ‘em all” attitude. Who knows how many kids or adults the little shit could have poked before mom made an appearance.

  • Anonymous

    This is sad, very sad, I have seen a man tell hi son ever since he was since a small child (we will call the kid k for purpose of this stoey) K, if you do something to him you better watch out because K willl wait till he gets a chance and fuck you up, he said this all in front of the kid, when the kid went to school, anytime he got in trouble it was never Ks fault, always the other kids fault or the teacher didnt like him, i used to warn this parent this kid is listening to everything you say, taking notes and he is going to do this because he thinks it makes you proud of him the way you say it, that you think its funny…. you are creating the monster you are going to have to deal with 10 0r 15 years from now, sure enough, this kid is uncontrolable, not him and his father do nothing but fight and argue, i am not one to say :I told you so: but its b=very sad to see and the only one that can talk any type of reason into him is me, becaauaw of laughing, thinking its funny or yelling I use reason, what did you get out of doing that> This is the short version, there is much more that you can fill in the blanks and now the father does not know how to deal with K, its sad that he is a smart mouthe spoiled kid who will do what he wants when he wants and how he wants and could honestly care less about the consequences. The only time he is nice is when he is wanting something for his dad to buy him have no answers for him now, think its too late but if anyone else knows a way to turn this around, please share, he is desperate…. and at his wits end…

  • http://www.facebook.com/dre.mosley Dre Mosley

    I side with the cops.

    If he’s this bad at 8 years old, look out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dre.mosley Dre Mosley

    I side with the cops.

    If he’s this bad at 8 years old, look out.

  • Anonymous

    How irresponsible would a parent have to be to keep her son in a public school system AFTER he has repeatedly displayed violent behavior? And why in the hell did the school allow him to come back after the first attack, let alone the second? If an 8 year old can behave violently enough for teachers to have to barricade themselves in a room and police officers have to pepper spray him to gain control, then this child needs special care and if mom can’t provide it then he should be institutionalized until he can be diagnosed or becomes mature enough to control his anger. That may sound harsh but he will only escalate as he gets older.

  • Anonymous

    Wait til that little fucker gets some testosterone flowing. How do you say “rape machine”?

  • Anonymous

    They should check this kid for lead poisoning. Seriously…that’s a ridiculous amount of anger for an 8 year old. Barring some other trauma he may be going through/have gone through, lead poisoning could cause this as well.

  • Anonymous

    They should check this kid for lead poisoning. Seriously…that’s a ridiculous amount of anger for an 8 year old. Barring some other trauma he may be going through/have gone through, lead poisoning could cause this as well.

  • Anonymous

    They should check this kid for lead poisoning. Seriously…that’s a ridiculous amount of anger for an 8 year old. Barring some other trauma he may be going through/have gone through, lead poisoning could cause this as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-House/1011555524 John House

    ““I’m sure what he was doing wasn’t right, but he’s 8-years-old,” she said. “They walked in, asked him to drop the stick, and then sprayed him with the spray…I think it’s excessive.””

    …No, you know what’s excessive? Your little shitspawn spitting at people, threatening to kill them and yelling “Get away from me you fuckers!” There’s something horribly wrong with “Mandy” here. She and her demon make a good case for eugenics and euthanasia.

    “Mandy claims Aiden is being seen by a doctor, but at this point, the kid hasn’t been diagnosed with any kind of mental illness and isn’t currently taking any medications.”

    So, either 1) Mandy’s lying and he hasn’t been seen by any doctors or 2) his doctor just thinks he’s a little asshole and you can’t really fix “asshole” with drugs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-House/1011555524 John House

    ““I’m sure what he was doing wasn’t right, but he’s 8-years-old,” she said. “They walked in, asked him to drop the stick, and then sprayed him with the spray…I think it’s excessive.””

    …No, you know what’s excessive? Your little shitspawn spitting at people, threatening to kill them and yelling “Get away from me you fuckers!” There’s something horribly wrong with “Mandy” here. She and her demon make a good case for eugenics and euthanasia.

    “Mandy claims Aiden is being seen by a doctor, but at this point, the kid hasn’t been diagnosed with any kind of mental illness and isn’t currently taking any medications.”

    So, either 1) Mandy’s lying and he hasn’t been seen by any doctors or 2) his doctor just thinks he’s a little asshole and you can’t really fix “asshole” with drugs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-House/1011555524 John House

    ““I’m sure what he was doing wasn’t right, but he’s 8-years-old,” she said. “They walked in, asked him to drop the stick, and then sprayed him with the spray…I think it’s excessive.””

    …No, you know what’s excessive? Your little shitspawn spitting at people, threatening to kill them and yelling “Get away from me you fuckers!” There’s something horribly wrong with “Mandy” here. She and her demon make a good case for eugenics and euthanasia.

    “Mandy claims Aiden is being seen by a doctor, but at this point, the kid hasn’t been diagnosed with any kind of mental illness and isn’t currently taking any medications.”

    So, either 1) Mandy’s lying and he hasn’t been seen by any doctors or 2) his doctor just thinks he’s a little asshole and you can’t really fix “asshole” with drugs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-House/1011555524 John House

    ““I’m sure what he was doing wasn’t right, but he’s 8-years-old,” she said. “They walked in, asked him to drop the stick, and then sprayed him with the spray…I think it’s excessive.””

    …No, you know what’s excessive? Your little shitspawn spitting at people, threatening to kill them and yelling “Get away from me you fuckers!” There’s something horribly wrong with “Mandy” here. She and her demon make a good case for eugenics and euthanasia.

    “Mandy claims Aiden is being seen by a doctor, but at this point, the kid hasn’t been diagnosed with any kind of mental illness and isn’t currently taking any medications.”

    So, either 1) Mandy’s lying and he hasn’t been seen by any doctors or 2) his doctor just thinks he’s a little asshole and you can’t really fix “asshole” with drugs.

  • http://twitter.com/fxguy1969 Bill Cassinelli

    Maybe he’s a time-traveler, with an adult mind in the body of an eight-year-old.

  • Anonymous

    You know, as I told the hubby and the 1 year old daughter this morning, “If my child acts like this in school and the cops pepper spray your butt, I’m going to thank them then give you something to truly be upset about.”

    Something tells me ‘Mandy’ here has no concept of discipline and is one of those parents who compromises and attempts to be her child’s friend instead of directing and being her child’s parent. I’ll just patiently stand by and wait for the article about sweet little Aiden here stabbing his mother to death with a pair of scissors and her relatives whimpering ‘Oh, he never seemed the type – he was such a GOOD boy.’

  • Anonymous

    You know, as I told the hubby and the 1 year old daughter this morning, “If my child acts like this in school and the cops pepper spray your butt, I’m going to thank them then give you something to truly be upset about.”

    Something tells me ‘Mandy’ here has no concept of discipline and is one of those parents who compromises and attempts to be her child’s friend instead of directing and being her child’s parent. I’ll just patiently stand by and wait for the article about sweet little Aiden here stabbing his mother to death with a pair of scissors and her relatives whimpering ‘Oh, he never seemed the type – he was such a GOOD boy.’

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    Sounds like it. I know every time my son did something at school they called me….

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • UniqueMommy1984

    That’s true…

  • http://www.facebook.com/andycarpenterjr Andy Carpenter

    If you don’t want your son treated like a common criminal, then try raising your child to act like something other than a spoiled little scumbag. For two police officers that were forced into using pepper spray on your little heathen, tells me that he’s nothing but a spoiled brat and needs his ass beat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andycarpenterjr Andy Carpenter

    If you don’t want your son treated like a common criminal, then try raising your child to act like something other than a spoiled little scumbag. For two police officers that were forced into using pepper spray on your little heathen, tells me that he’s nothing but a spoiled brat and needs his ass beat.

  • Anonymous

    TATRUM… apparently the anchorwoman can’t pronounce the N in TANTRUM.

  • Anonymous

    TATRUM… apparently the anchorwoman can’t pronounce the N in TANTRUM.

  • Anonymous

    I read the story & it seems to me like mommy dearest has a problem: She’s raising a spoiled brat that is getting overfed unnecessarily.

    Some children are high maintenance (they were also high maintenance babies too… & there’s nothing wrong with that, they just need more attention) but the problem is that they are also harder to discipline. Here’s were little drama kings & queens gets screwed; mommy & daddy spoil them instead of helping them become not so needy persons.

    To top it all off this kid by the article sounds like if he’s such an angry little man it’s cause there’s gotta be something wrong in his environment that will cause this anger to get to this level.

  • Count Rackula

    I can’t tell if I should condemn this child for being a spoiled brat, or feel sorry for him because there might me some trauma going on at home. His temper and demeanor indicate some sort of shitty parenting, but I guess we don’t know what is happening with his obviously stupid parents. I don’t know what the root of his behavior is, but if it isn’t fixed by the time he’s big enough to cause any REAL damage, someone is going to die.

  • Count Rackula

    I can’t tell if I should condemn this child for being a spoiled brat, or feel sorry for him because there might me some trauma going on at home. His temper and demeanor indicate some sort of shitty parenting, but I guess we don’t know what is happening with his obviously stupid parents. I don’t know what the root of his behavior is, but if it isn’t fixed by the time he’s big enough to cause any REAL damage, someone is going to die.

  • Anonymous

    Where’s daddy? No sign of the shadow of a ring on mommy’s finger?

    Is he being molested? Is he being bullied?

    Is he abused in some sort of way???

  • Anonymous

    Where’s daddy? No sign of the shadow of a ring on mommy’s finger?

    Is he being molested? Is he being bullied?

    Is he abused in some sort of way???

  • Anonymous

    Where’s daddy? No sign of the shadow of a ring on mommy’s finger?

    Is he being molested? Is he being bullied?

    Is he abused in some sort of way???

  • Parrot Toes

    You are so wise. I wasn’t even thinking about trauma at home. I was ready to throw the kid under the bus for simply being spoiled. You need to post more, I miss you around here. :)

  • Anonymous

    Rape Machine

  • Anonymous

    Rape Machine

  • Anonymous

    I feel like if they had pepper sprayed his butt the first time the school had to call the police, there probably would have not been a second or third time.. Bet he thinks twice about having one of his infamous fits of rage. Like Barney Fife said “You have to nip it in the bud I tell you nip it in the bud”

    Just maybe pepper spray should be standard equipment for teachers of volital kids. With proper training of course. But for the protection of the other students…Because you can bet your sweet butt with those two teacher barricaded in another room he had access to get to other students. Had one of the other students been injured by this kid the school and police would have been ripped to shreds for there”LACK”of action. The school and police are both in a damned if you do damned if you dont situation.

    Cudo’s to to the police and the school for their decisions.

  • Anonymous

    I feel like if they had pepper sprayed his butt the first time the school had to call the police, there probably would have not been a second or third time.. Bet he thinks twice about having one of his infamous fits of rage. Like Barney Fife said “You have to nip it in the bud I tell you nip it in the bud”

    Just maybe pepper spray should be standard equipment for teachers of volital kids. With proper training of course. But for the protection of the other students…Because you can bet your sweet butt with those two teacher barricaded in another room he had access to get to other students. Had one of the other students been injured by this kid the school and police would have been ripped to shreds for there”LACK”of action. The school and police are both in a damned if you do damned if you dont situation.

    Cudo’s to to the police and the school for their decisions.

  • Anonymous

    when i first started reading the story i thought to my self yeah that sounds like a little much, but as i kept reading i began to think yeah that kid did desserve a pepper spray and maybe a few ass beating from his mother. But by the sounds of it, his monther is just as retarted as that kid is going to turn out to be.
    If i were a teacher i think i would call the parent before i called a cop…Mainly becasue if i did some shit like that in school my mother (who was a lunch lady) would have been a hell of alot more terrifying then a cop becasue my mother knows where i sleep at night..

  • Parrot Toes

    It depends on the language. For example, in French it would be, “machine de viol”. Spanish, “máquina de violación”. German, “Vergewaltigungsmaschine”. Japanese, “??????”. Russian, “????????????? ??????”.
    :P

  • Anonymous

    That is the problem with todays kids the parents dont discipline their kids muchless let someone else whoop Jr.’s butt..I was scared of the what the neighbor(she was the lunch lady) would do if I showed out.. Then what my mom would do when she told her what had happend.. I would not have been able to sit for a month… If kids actually had set concquences for bad behavior instead of “TALKING THEM DOWN” they wouldnt do it to start with. Just my thoughts on the matter but I am a TRUE believer in corporal punishment.

  • Anonymous

    She has already set the stage for that:

    ‘Aiden admits that he has anger problems, adding, “Just kind of like whenever anybody upsets me,” he said. “Like I just kind of want to tear them apart… I think it’s not ever going to go away…It’s just who I am.”’

    No eight year old comes to that conclusion on his own. Mum has been priming his temper by making excuses……

  • Anonymous

    She has already set the stage for that:

    ‘Aiden admits that he has anger problems, adding, “Just kind of like whenever anybody upsets me,” he said. “Like I just kind of want to tear them apart… I think it’s not ever going to go away…It’s just who I am.”’

    No eight year old comes to that conclusion on his own. Mum has been priming his temper by making excuses……

  • Pyncky

    Give the little fucker to me for 30 days. I will give him some anger management help, and as soon as he can walk again, he will be a better person. He has not been taught cause and effect. Either someone needs to straighten his ass up or kill him before he is big enough to be a REAL threat.

  • Anonymous

    this is the kid we all heard about in February…wow he is a little shit..mom needs to make him more responsible for his actions..

  • Pyncky

    Maybe a Taser would have been better. Electroshock therapy on the fly. Couldn’t hurt.

  • Anonymous

    not a believer in corporal punishment, being an abused child did not solve anything for me…your comment “not being able to sit for a month” well that actually happened my ass was completely black and purple from the wooden spoon and the shoe sole with holes drilled in it…my crime…at age 6 was not calling this new woman in my life “mommy” . I had just met her after she lost custoday of me 6 yrs prior for not feeding or caring for me…well the next 12 yrs were pure torture…and she did it all in the name of “oh it’s just a spanking” .. well at age 41 i still don’t speak to her…hitting a kid til they cannot sit is abuse..plain and simple…

  • Anonymous

    also i see a huge problem with the mother going ahead and publicizing this and making him out to be a victim yet again…how about taking stuff from kids..seriously if you take their shit or keep them grounded it can also work..but you have to stick to it..

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Jaded

    While that may be true, I personally think that some kids are just born born and spend their entire life perfecting their roles as assholes.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ldhummingbird Tracey Jones

    I was probably 80 pounds at age 8. I was also 4’6″ though.

    I also wonder if there’s some sort of underlying trauma that’s causing this kid to act like such a little shit. Either way, though, an 8-year-old who can throw a TV needs to be very carefully watched.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ldhummingbird Tracey Jones

    I was probably 80 pounds at age 8. I was also 4’6″ though.

    I also wonder if there’s some sort of underlying trauma that’s causing this kid to act like such a little shit. Either way, though, an 8-year-old who can throw a TV needs to be very carefully watched.

  • Athena

    At this stage in the game – second grade, 8 years old – the kid is not responsible for his behavior, his parents are. I really don’t agree with some commenters’ suggestion that mom should dole out an ass beating. If you’ve fucked up this bad, you don’t deserve to turn around and try to beat it out of the kid. I’ve never seen a kid learn to not assault people by being assaulted.

    As far as the pepper spray is concerned, it’s a lot better than a taser. It’s unfortunate that the police have to be the one to teach the kid that there are severe consequences for severe behavior. Although, I’m not entirely comfortable with it. I do think, however, in situations like this, parents of the offending child should be ordered to parenting classes. I understand that the ability to discipline successfully is not inherent, so it should be taught… at the parents’ expense, of course.

  • Athena

    I agree, but I also think that is exceedingly rare. It’s not common to find a little psycho in a household where the parents are doing everything right (although there’s no doubt they exist). In most cases, I imagine it’s a combination of nature and nurture. A kid is born with a propensity for this behavior and parents either don’t know how or don’t bother to counter that propensity.

    I don’t necessarily think it’s an issue of trauma, however. I think it’s just as likely if not more so that there simply aren’t sufficient boundaries at home, and this spills into his life at school.

    But all three possibilities are valid, for sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JellyBellyMomma Kimberly Hanselman

    The kid obviously has problems, but the police did what they needed to do. I hope the kid can get help and that he can turn his life around and start heading down the right path. I think maybe his home life needs to be looked into, also.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JellyBellyMomma Kimberly Hanselman

    The kid obviously has problems, but the police did what they needed to do. I hope the kid can get help and that he can turn his life around and start heading down the right path. I think maybe his home life needs to be looked into, also.

  • Tundratot

    I keep seeing her telling the world that they went right for the pepper spray. But the account by the police sounds like they put some consideration into the appropriate way to deal with it. Okay, maybe they had already formed a plan for the future after the second time they had to come out and talk him down, but they nonetheless didn’t just whip it out two seconds after walking into the room.

    I would ask the mother if she thinks that the loss of hours of instruction time, hiding the other kids and teachers in closets and separate rooms, and police intervention is something the other parents/teachers/administrators should have to go through for one child. Her child.

    Another thing that comes through the story here is that the boy uses foul language without compunction, and considers violence normal. I would suggest that his parental unit(s) like violent shows and games and allow junior to participate a little too freely. While I don’t entirely censor my own viewing and language (I don’t have game consoles), I do talk to the kids about them and have told them not to use adult language. These make for some interesting conversations, but they also give my kids a grounding in right/wrong, reality/fantasy, privilege/duty, discretion/truth, consequences, and BS.

    Junior sounds like he was just having a grand time and maybe even thinks the pepper spray incident adds to his legend.

  • Tundratot

    I keep seeing her telling the world that they went right for the pepper spray. But the account by the police sounds like they put some consideration into the appropriate way to deal with it. Okay, maybe they had already formed a plan for the future after the second time they had to come out and talk him down, but they nonetheless didn’t just whip it out two seconds after walking into the room.

    I would ask the mother if she thinks that the loss of hours of instruction time, hiding the other kids and teachers in closets and separate rooms, and police intervention is something the other parents/teachers/administrators should have to go through for one child. Her child.

    Another thing that comes through the story here is that the boy uses foul language without compunction, and considers violence normal. I would suggest that his parental unit(s) like violent shows and games and allow junior to participate a little too freely. While I don’t entirely censor my own viewing and language (I don’t have game consoles), I do talk to the kids about them and have told them not to use adult language. These make for some interesting conversations, but they also give my kids a grounding in right/wrong, reality/fantasy, privilege/duty, discretion/truth, consequences, and BS.

    Junior sounds like he was just having a grand time and maybe even thinks the pepper spray incident adds to his legend.

  • Tundratot

    I keep seeing her telling the world that they went right for the pepper spray. But the account by the police sounds like they put some consideration into the appropriate way to deal with it. Okay, maybe they had already formed a plan for the future after the second time they had to come out and talk him down, but they nonetheless didn’t just whip it out two seconds after walking into the room.

    I would ask the mother if she thinks that the loss of hours of instruction time, hiding the other kids and teachers in closets and separate rooms, and police intervention is something the other parents/teachers/administrators should have to go through for one child. Her child.

    Another thing that comes through the story here is that the boy uses foul language without compunction, and considers violence normal. I would suggest that his parental unit(s) like violent shows and games and allow junior to participate a little too freely. While I don’t entirely censor my own viewing and language (I don’t have game consoles), I do talk to the kids about them and have told them not to use adult language. These make for some interesting conversations, but they also give my kids a grounding in right/wrong, reality/fantasy, privilege/duty, discretion/truth, consequences, and BS.

    Junior sounds like he was just having a grand time and maybe even thinks the pepper spray incident adds to his legend.

  • http://twitter.com/JBauman8296 Justin Bauman

    Strongly agreed. Sounds like mommy shouldnt be a mommy if she cant either teach her kid self control or get him on meds. The cops called not once but three times on this kid. He should be in a mental insitution sharing a fucking cell with her.

  • http://twitter.com/JBauman8296 Justin Bauman

    Strongly agreed. Sounds like mommy shouldnt be a mommy if she cant either teach her kid self control or get him on meds. The cops called not once but three times on this kid. He should be in a mental insitution sharing a fucking cell with her.

  • Anonymous

    BEAT HIS ASS!! If my kid ever did that I would beat his ass.

  • FrikkenFrak

    ” I’m sure what he was doing wasn’t right, but he’s 8-years-old,” she said.”

    THERE is the REAL problem right there.

    Yes, mom, you dumb fuck….he’s 8. AND NORMAL 8 YEAR OLD KIDS DON’T ACT LIKE THAT!
    You’re sure what he’s doing is “not right, but….”??? There IS no “but”. WTF. Not right??? It’s way the hell far from “right”. Jeez get that kid to a doctor, get him on meds, get him HELP.

    GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THAT SHIT PILE OF DENIAL. What is this shit-for-brains going to say when he’s 17 and he’s killed someone? ‘Cause you KNOW this isn’t going to end well on it’s current course.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    It’s “never going to go away” because it *works* for him. I have no doubt this little turd uses his “anger” on mom all day, every day to get what he wants. Until that bitch steps out of her denial – not a damn thing is going to change. She’d better get tough or she’ll find herself sporting bruises and cuts real soon … if not dead.
    And someone needs to visit that home fairly regularly … I honestly and truly fear for that dog and any other pet they may have.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    It’s “never going to go away” because it *works* for him. I have no doubt this little turd uses his “anger” on mom all day, every day to get what he wants. Until that bitch steps out of her denial – not a damn thing is going to change. She’d better get tough or she’ll find herself sporting bruises and cuts real soon … if not dead.
    And someone needs to visit that home fairly regularly … I honestly and truly fear for that dog and any other pet they may have.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    It’s “never going to go away” because it *works* for him. I have no doubt this little turd uses his “anger” on mom all day, every day to get what he wants. Until that bitch steps out of her denial – not a damn thing is going to change. She’d better get tough or she’ll find herself sporting bruises and cuts real soon … if not dead.
    And someone needs to visit that home fairly regularly … I honestly and truly fear for that dog and any other pet they may have.

  • Anonymous

    I spend my high school years there in Lakewood . Trust me theres allot more to this story.
    Lakewood cops love to egg on a situation so they can use force or try out new toys.

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  • Anonymous

    But…but, you’re suggestion “Mandy” discipline her child when he assaults people and destroys property. Don’t you realize her snowflake is special and shouldn’t be held to the same standards as everyone else?

    Does anyone else enjoy the irony of “Mandy” giving out her kid’s name, age and school and letting him be on camera, then hiding her own identity?

  • Anonymous

    Who wants to join the pool on when Dr. Phil will swoop in to “fix” this family?

  • Anonymous

    Who wants to join the pool on when Dr. Phil will swoop in to “fix” this family?

  • Anonymous

    Who wants to join the pool on when Dr. Phil will swoop in to “fix” this family?

  • melb1970

    Mom says they treated him like a common criminal- maybe it’s because he acted like one. As an adult for this behavior his ass would be in jail.
    Perhaps some time in Juevie would serve him well right now- vandalism, assault and battery all could land him some time and community service.
    I would hate to think I raised such a child, seriously.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    This kid didn’t need to be “egged on”. He freely (and proudly) admitted to wielding a sharp object to invoke fear – and pain – on the objects of his ire. His attitude is “I’m a bad ass kid, I will fuck you up – deal with it”.
    Fuck that. Next time, tase that little bastard. Then, for good measure, go to his house and tase his fucking mother. Neither one of them showed a bit of remorse or regret for what the KID did – only shock and dismay at what he forced the COPS to do.

    My oldest son acted out violently after his dad left (blamed me and himself) At 3 and 4 he was biting me (drawing blood), kicking me and throwing things at me and starting to hurt his little sister. I took him to counseling and I FOLLOWED THE COUNSELORS ORDERS. Maybe mom has this kid seeing someone .. but either it’s the wrong someone, or she isn’t doing her homework. I was told to use “holding therapy” on my son when he acted out. Dear GOD that was tough. Physically, mentally and emotionally. He screamed, cried, begged and pleaded – and I kept holding. Then, he’d try to bite – and I kept holding. Anyone who wanted to ‘babysit’ had to learn to do this and be *willing* to do it (thank you Mom[RIP] – I know it was tough for you, too!) After a while, it DID work. He was taught other methods of channeling his anger. Sure, he would have occasional setbacks… but they were very controllable. If this mom doesn’t do something soon… I fear it will be too late when she finally sees the light.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    This kid didn’t need to be “egged on”. He freely (and proudly) admitted to wielding a sharp object to invoke fear – and pain – on the objects of his ire. His attitude is “I’m a bad ass kid, I will fuck you up – deal with it”.
    Fuck that. Next time, tase that little bastard. Then, for good measure, go to his house and tase his fucking mother. Neither one of them showed a bit of remorse or regret for what the KID did – only shock and dismay at what he forced the COPS to do.

    My oldest son acted out violently after his dad left (blamed me and himself) At 3 and 4 he was biting me (drawing blood), kicking me and throwing things at me and starting to hurt his little sister. I took him to counseling and I FOLLOWED THE COUNSELORS ORDERS. Maybe mom has this kid seeing someone .. but either it’s the wrong someone, or she isn’t doing her homework. I was told to use “holding therapy” on my son when he acted out. Dear GOD that was tough. Physically, mentally and emotionally. He screamed, cried, begged and pleaded – and I kept holding. Then, he’d try to bite – and I kept holding. Anyone who wanted to ‘babysit’ had to learn to do this and be *willing* to do it (thank you Mom[RIP] – I know it was tough for you, too!) After a while, it DID work. He was taught other methods of channeling his anger. Sure, he would have occasional setbacks… but they were very controllable. If this mom doesn’t do something soon… I fear it will be too late when she finally sees the light.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    This kid didn’t need to be “egged on”. He freely (and proudly) admitted to wielding a sharp object to invoke fear – and pain – on the objects of his ire. His attitude is “I’m a bad ass kid, I will fuck you up – deal with it”.
    Fuck that. Next time, tase that little bastard. Then, for good measure, go to his house and tase his fucking mother. Neither one of them showed a bit of remorse or regret for what the KID did – only shock and dismay at what he forced the COPS to do.

    My oldest son acted out violently after his dad left (blamed me and himself) At 3 and 4 he was biting me (drawing blood), kicking me and throwing things at me and starting to hurt his little sister. I took him to counseling and I FOLLOWED THE COUNSELORS ORDERS. Maybe mom has this kid seeing someone .. but either it’s the wrong someone, or she isn’t doing her homework. I was told to use “holding therapy” on my son when he acted out. Dear GOD that was tough. Physically, mentally and emotionally. He screamed, cried, begged and pleaded – and I kept holding. Then, he’d try to bite – and I kept holding. Anyone who wanted to ‘babysit’ had to learn to do this and be *willing* to do it (thank you Mom[RIP] – I know it was tough for you, too!) After a while, it DID work. He was taught other methods of channeling his anger. Sure, he would have occasional setbacks… but they were very controllable. If this mom doesn’t do something soon… I fear it will be too late when she finally sees the light.

  • Anonymous

    Ummm…What the eff is up with the teacher’s barricading themselves in the room and leaving the little kids on their own to deal with the little murder-threatening asshole?! My daughter is in second grade and if her teacher barricaded herself in a room and left my daughter to deal with the anger issues of her classmate, I would have heads rolling before the little bastard’s eyes even healed from the pepper spray. I have no issues with the pepper spray. My kids know if they act like little assholes in school or out, there will be hell to pay from Mom (usually all it takes is “the look”)

    Now, on to the little kid who was pepper-sprayed. I think you guys are all taking this in the wrong context. He may seem like a future rapist/murdered/drug addict/thief, but I argue that he is just training for his super-hero job in the future. I’m pretty sure The Hulk uttered the following lines during his childhood: “Just kind of like whenever anybody upsets me,” he said. “Like I just kind of want to tear them apart… I think it’s not ever going to go away…It’s just who I am.” I bow to you, Aidan the wise. May you soon find your sensei who will help you channel your energy for good, and not evil. *bow*

    *End sarcasm*

  • Anonymous

    Don’t blame paddling with all the hell you went through. They are not the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    I think there needs to be serious discussion(and maybe legislation) on “WHO we let breed”.

  • Anonymous

    A popular saying in education is “what is accepted is repeated”. Perhaps unacceptable behavior is allowed for this student at home.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jamesballard73 James Ballard

    I’m really not sure what side of the fence I’m on over this story. As the father of a 2nd grader who has thrown some hellaciously violent temper tantrums I admit I have had thoughts of stopping her in a not so nice way, but for me I just grab her and hold her and rock her til its done. It has nothing to do with bad parenting at all ( in my case anyway ) I’m the only one that is able to get her calmed down that so if it happens in school, I am y be upset if the spray was used but I would also understand.

  • Anonymous

    I feel sorry for this little boy. He is obviously very sick and has some chemical issues going on in his brain. At such a young age, kids with exposure to trauma may act out, but this goes beyond. He knows something is wrong with him in his head and can even admit it. Those with trauma don’t often admit that something is wrong with them and that it won’t go away. His mother should really have been getting him help instead of thinking he’s just “acting out”. I still agree with the use of pepper spray.

  • Anonymous

    yeah, reading that line gave me a headache. it almost sounds like he’s proud of his anger problems. *shakes head*

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    He has had the cops called on him twice before this. I doubt the cops are looking for trouble.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    Has your second grader had three run-ins with the damn cops?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    Has your second grader had three run-ins with the damn cops?

  • http://infowars.com Domino

    i don’t know i had to laugh that the mother brought this to the public’s attention, she THOUGHT she was going to get her kid some extra sympathy – but after visiting several websites, looks to me she’s the one under all the scrutiny and not the police officers. i love how this is working.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Jaded

    Ummm…What the eff is up with the teacher’s barricading themselves in the room and leaving the little kids on their own to deal with the little murder-threatening asshole?!

    I don’t know for a fact that there were other children present while the little shit threw his fit. I was curious whether this took place in the classroom or an office, but so far haven’t been able to find any info on that.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Jaded

    Ummm…What the eff is up with the teacher’s barricading themselves in the room and leaving the little kids on their own to deal with the little murder-threatening asshole?!

    I don’t know for a fact that there were other children present while the little shit threw his fit. I was curious whether this took place in the classroom or an office, but so far haven’t been able to find any info on that.

  • Anonymous

    paddling is one thing…beating someone till they cannot sit is abuse sorry but that’s a fact sweety

  • Anonymous

    yup now maybe they will focus on trying to figure out why this kid has had the cops involved 3 times…suspicious to me…something wrong..first place to look is at home

  • Anonymous

    yup now maybe they will focus on trying to figure out why this kid has had the cops involved 3 times…suspicious to me…something wrong..first place to look is at home

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YT3XCVN3MHW2XXYB3OWU2A7GBU Patti

    Someone needs to reserve a spot on the here on the Front Page for Mandy and Aiden, we will see them again.

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • Anonymous

    Huh… I can hear the mom now: “Good job sonny, now we can sue the police department for lots of money!” And then she takes him to the nearest McDonalds drive-thru. >:(

  • http://www.facebook.com/jamesballard73 James Ballard

    OOO look at you getting all angry over nothing. Did you pound hard on the keys and glare at the screen as you typed this? And no, she was removed fron her class by the principle and school security who chose to contact me before going to that level. I was able to calm her down and take her home. So now plz tell me, what part of my comment pissed you off? The part that I am not sure how I feel about it? The part that I too have angry 2nd grader? Oh I get it, the part that I would understand why they sprayed my daughter if they ever had too? Or do you just get pissy for no reason?

  • Athena

    Not to suggest that you’re a bad parent at all, because it is absolutely possible for children to have these kinds of behavioral problems despite even the best possible parenting, but…

    Bad parenting is kind of like being insane. Just like crazy people rarely realize they’re crazy, bad parents rarely realize they’re bad parents. So I’m not prone to take people’s word for their mental health or their parenting skills. I certainly wouldn’t in this boy’s mother’s case.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    Uh. Who said I was angry? Over-react much.
    I think I know where your child gets their temper tantrum problems from.

  • Mamma

    All aboard the RAPE TRAIN! Choo CHOO!!

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  • Mamma

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  • Mamma

    FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

  • Mamma

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  • Count Rackula

    I completely agree, I think my brother is probably one of those children.

  • Count Rackula

    I miss you too!!! I spoke directly to you in another post (the shower peephole story), I hope you read it (even though it’s super long).

  • Count Rackula

    I miss you too!!! I spoke directly to you in another post (the shower peephole story), I hope you read it (even though it’s super long).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKSJ42VBXNAFJLOH54Y3K4KTXU Heather Habilatory

    I’ll be laughing too hard to do anything about it. wtf? haha.

  • Anonymous

    I think it was the use of the word damn, which made your sentence come off as angry. Remember, the nature of the internet makes the words you use extremely important, since we cannot see all the nonverbals cues that indicate your true feelings. It even sounded a little angry to me, but I would James’ daughter has not had run ins with the cops, because he sounds like a parent that will act reasonably in the situation. Aiden’s mom does not seem the same way.

    It is good that they have Aiden into a school for kids with behavior disorders, they can make a massive change. I have a nephew in a special school, and he sounds a lot happier in his letters, and is doing way better in school, because he is in an environment that suits his needs better, and he isn’t disrupting other student’s learning as well.

    I would be a little intimidated by an 82 pound raging 8 year old too, especially after he threw a TV, and if mom is dragging her heels on getting him help, she isn’t doing her job.

  • Anonymous

    I think it was the use of the word damn, which made your sentence come off as angry. Remember, the nature of the internet makes the words you use extremely important, since we cannot see all the nonverbals cues that indicate your true feelings. It even sounded a little angry to me, but I would James’ daughter has not had run ins with the cops, because he sounds like a parent that will act reasonably in the situation. Aiden’s mom does not seem the same way.

    It is good that they have Aiden into a school for kids with behavior disorders, they can make a massive change. I have a nephew in a special school, and he sounds a lot happier in his letters, and is doing way better in school, because he is in an environment that suits his needs better, and he isn’t disrupting other student’s learning as well.

    I would be a little intimidated by an 82 pound raging 8 year old too, especially after he threw a TV, and if mom is dragging her heels on getting him help, she isn’t doing her job.

  • Anonymous

    Any kind of therapy, be it counselling or occupational or speech therapy is only effective when the parents are on the same page. The therapist only sees the child for at most a few hours a week, which is not nearly enough to truly solve the issue. My older boy had to have some speech and occupational therapy (he was five weeks premature and had a few developmental delays) and his therapists loved working with me, because they said many parents didn’t bother to do the recommended activities between sessions. This little boy’s mom sounds like one of those parents that expect the professional to do all the work, and then shrug their shoulders when the therapy “doesn’t work”.

  • Anonymous

    That was my thought when I first read about it being a violent temper tantrum. Normal healthy 8 year olds do not flip their shit like that. A 3 year old, maybe, not an 8 year old, they should be beyond that stage. What’s mom gonna do when he turns 13, is bigger than she is and flips a fit like that because she won’t buy him the newest shiny thing he wants? She’s gonna get hurt, he’s already a big boy, and I would wager part of that is height, not just fat, plus he has already learned he can get his way if he gets physical, and shows a penchant for fashioning makeshift weapons and shielding (blocked the first pepper spray with some cardboard). While I would love to see her learn the error of her ways that way, it’s not fair to him, or the other people he will end up hurting along the way if something isn’t done.

    This is why my boys are learning the magic of “no, you cannot have it right now, and throwing a fit means you won’t get it ever”. It’s rough sometimes, the older one is 4 and got a double dose of stubborn. We haven’t reallystarted with the baby, but he’s 14 months and doesn’t “ask” for much yet, just food and drink, which I have no problem giving him.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, my husband and I have learned to watch our language after the four year old repeated a few things (which sound cute coming fomr a four year old, in the privacy of your home, but we were quick to tell him he should not use those words and mommy and daddy shouldn’t have, either). The problem is he has probably been allowed unsupervised access to whatever, whenever he wants. this will cause problems, regardless of whether his parent(s) like violent stuff or not, it’s the unrestricted access, with no one there to explain what’s going on that causes problems.

    When my husband and I first started dating, a friend of his had a neighbor with a little 6 year old boy living at the house, and this little boy would come out and curse and say all kinds of horrible things, he was a real juvenile delinquent in training. As he grew up, he developed into a rude young man who would steal stuff and had poor health, because he was allowed to eat whatever he wanted whenever he wanted, and that was a lot of junk. I believe he lived with his grandma, and nothing was ever done because he was fed and was not abused, just allowed to grow up into a monster. I kind of feel sorry for him, but also keep a wide berth, because it was 13 years ago my husband and I started dating, and that little boy is now technically an adult, and I am not sure I would be safe, so I keep a safe distance.

  • Anonymous

    She didn’t. Paddling does not get to the point of the child not being able to sit down. However the person she replied to mentioned not being able to sit for a month, which if even close to true, would cross the line. It was probably hyperbole of how much trouble they would be in.

  • Anonymous

    Critters and children will do what they are allowed to get away with and will act out when they are being mistreated. You just have to have the gumption to decide what misbehavior will not be allowed and the spine to make it stick, through all the whining, wheedling, crying and fits. They may hate you for a few minutes, or a day, but you will raise a better person with proper discipline.

  • Anonymous

    Could already be happening, kids have been entering puberty earlier and earlier, and even some boys as young as six have shown early signs of puberty. But yeah, he needs some kind of help before he starts hitting puberty and has testosterone adding to his rages.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe they called her first the other two times, and nothing changed, so they decided that doing the same thing and expecting different results was dumb.

  • Parrot Toes

    That’s OK, we can just catch him with Daniel Toshs (of Tosh.0) and Antoine Dodsons (Run and tell that homeboy fame) rape trap. It’s no fail (and fricken hilarious).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5xtDexHclc

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-House/1011555524 John House

    It’s likely more common than you think.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/health/13mind.html?_r=2

    I read that article when it first came out and was thankful that at least one psych was able to open his mouth/tell the truth about the nasty little snowflakes.

  • http://twitter.com/Topsy_Turvey13 Skylar Salvato

    I know you all side with the cops. I do too.

    But would you guys still side with them if it was your own kid? That’d be tough. I would defintly make sure my kid got help.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he deserved it, but there are so many bad cops out there. It is hard to be on their side. http://abadgedisgraced.blogspot.com/

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he deserved it, but there are so many bad cops out there. It is hard to be on their side. http://abadgedisgraced.blogspot.com/

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he deserved it, but there are so many bad cops out there. It is hard to be on their side. http://abadgedisgraced.blogspot.com/

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he deserved it, but there are so many bad cops out there. It is hard to be on their side. http://abadgedisgraced.blogspot.com/

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he deserved it, but there are so many bad cops out there. It is hard to be on their side. http://abadgedisgraced.blogspot.com/

  • http://www.facebook.com/kennyhackett Kenny Hackett

    That like saying there are so many bad black/white/asian/dentist/waiters/mimes out there you can’t trust them. With the exception of the mimes thats stereo typing. It is true that you shouldn’t trust mimes though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kennyhackett Kenny Hackett

    Not only would I side with them I’d ask for my own can to dose his ass the next time he thought he was the incredible hulk jr.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kennyhackett Kenny Hackett

    Sever punishment for sever crimes. You didn’t deserve it, but this kid did., It should be a rare occurring (any think more than a quick one or two firm smacks over a clothed bottom or back of the hand is a sever spanking in my book) and this would warrant a serious spanking, albeit not nearly as sever as the one you just described. There should be no marks after an hour and those marks should only be slight pink with no whelping. By the next morning the only last effect should be in his memory. It there are ANY marks the next morning you went way to far in my book. The mental imprint should be the teaching device not the physical pain. All that said it would be likely be that even the most perfectly delivered corporal punishment would only make This child worse. I think kids with violent streaks are the kids least likely to have positive results from corporal punishment.

  • Alicia

    I never once acted out in school. Not because I was afraid of my dad or anyone in the school, but because my father raised me to be polite, well mannered and, above all, listen to and respect my elders and those in positions of authority. However, if I ever, and I mean EVER caused a scene in school or any other place even a fraction as serious as this kid did, it’s not the cops I’d have to be afraid of, it’d be my dad. He would’ve beat my ass black n’ blue – I don’t even wanna think what he would’ve done had the cops ever been called on me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JSDZ3HBF6XOCZ3YLG4JVURU73Q Wyks

    “Because of his age, no charges were filed.”

    And there’s another problem, in addition to those already commented on. Someone in authority needs to pay attention to this boy NOW, while they still can. He’s “only 8″ is no excuse for overlooking such anger and attitude. If he is allowed to spin out of control until he’s a teenager, can you just imagine how much worse he could be then? I don’t know what consequences he should face at 8 years old, yet charges still ‘should have’ been filed on his angry little ass. Seems to me that as it is, the message he likely got from all this is that he can do whatever he wants until he’s older.

    It’s very likely that this boy received some awful abuse at a very early age, to be THIS angry at 8 years old. He needs some long-term professional help from one/more psych docs. As does his mother, for her denial, and whatever the trauma was that happened to her son. It’s not “his problem” alone, it’s a problem for the whole family. Best to get that help now, perhaps it’s not too late for this boy. Let it all go tho, “because of his age”, and what society will have in about ten to twelve years will be another full-blown psycho maniac that we’ll be reading about in here again.

    Sigh.

  • http://profiles.google.com/gincollum40 gin collum

    REALLY PEOPLE…yall think the little kid is crazy. There is nothing wrong with that kid other than he is spoiled to freaking death and you cant see those damn tantrums is his game to get his way. All that shit he done in that classroom was learned behavior and to play a teacher who has a college education well suppose to anyway is bad but this smart little 2nd grader even bluffed the damn lazy cop thank god the scared bastards shot pepper spray most of the time they pull the guns out when they get pissed. The kid seemed like a normal kid in the video with his mom, he was clam and pleasant and still playing bullshit not only on the teacher that pissed at him that day for using his game to get his and ended up with the scared weak cops to help her calm him down and not give him his way that particular day but now the game player bullshitter is on the news his acting career has began so now he has to continue the game of he is a angry kid who just trips out instead of damn that bullying trick worked before to get my way and hell yeah im really pissed cause she called the damn police and forreal pissed me off when he sprayed the shit my eyes…damn she let me by with the same behavvior last week. Where do kids pick up this bad boy tuff guy act they play espescially at 8 years old huh? From those video games every house hold has and most of the time the parents dont look at the ratings or even play first because little bullshiter will wine and fuss and so they hand him a damn game to play that does dope deals, buys hookers, fights the police, stabs and robbed the teachers and get paid cash for it while driving the badest race car around. And they get so into this filth and gangsta character they playing they soon learn his attitude which is horrible for the adult to act like a convict must a second grader. But the adults are the ones to blame for letting this gamer beat yalls ass forreal he is still winning his game but now he got the whole world bluffed…if the kid is crazy dont you think he would have killed animals or something damn he has done nothing really but put on a hell of a show and kicked yalls ass mentally.

  • http://profiles.google.com/gincollum40 gin collum

    I really think that teacher is mental and is in the wrong the profession…she is the adult that spent 4 years in college to receive her teaching degree but its seems to me she wasnt taught the main lesson of teaching students, the first thing before teaching the kids academic lessons and thats teaching them how to act in class and maintaining order of her room. Who is teaching your kids parents…..seems like in this bullshitters class he has easy timid idiot teacher with no common sense. Im sorry teacher you handled this wrong because if that was my classroom the bullshitter bluffer wouldnt of been in my classroom just as soon as he stood up from his desk if I had to grab his ears and drag him into the hallway he would get out of my room and gone to the principle. That teacher dont need to be teaching second graders hell she dont need to be in a class forreal

  • http://profiles.google.com/gincollum40 gin collum

    I really think that teacher is mental and is in the wrong the profession…she is the adult that spent 4 years in college to receive her teaching degree but its seems to me she wasnt taught the main lesson of teaching students, the first thing before teaching the kids academic lessons and thats teaching them how to act in class and maintaining order of her room. Who is teaching your kids parents…..seems like in this bullshitters class he has easy timid idiot teacher with no common sense. Im sorry teacher you handled this wrong because if that was my classroom the bullshitter bluffer wouldnt of been in my classroom just as soon as he stood up from his desk if I had to grab his ears and drag him into the hallway he would get out of my room and gone to the principle. That teacher dont need to be teaching second graders hell she dont need to be in a class forreal

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Jaded

    Is it weird that I heard Boomhauer’s voice in my head as I read this wall of words?

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Jaded

    The teacher is there to teach, not to disarm a psychotic little fucking brat. Though she is responsible for maintaining order in her classroom, she is not responsible for teaching said brat manners and respect…that shit should be taught at home.

  • Parrot Toes

    LOL

  • Parrot Toes

    Wellyoutoldushuh?!?!

  • Parrot Toes

    Thank fuck you aren’t a teacher. Your lack of punctuation indicates that you weren’t the most attentive student either.

  • FrikkenFrak

    I’m going to apologize in advance for what I’m about to say. But you hit a nerve.

    Ok…beyond any child rearing of your possible own, do you have any background in child development?

    I have a 19 year old with Asperger’s Syndrome. When he was 3 and newly diagnosed, I flew out of state with him and thrust him into unusual surroundings. He cried a lot on that trip. My sister in law, with her KNOW IT ALL personality, decided to declare at a family picnic that “there is nothing wrong with your son….he’s just SPOILED”.

    Spoiled??? Hell, I only WISH it was that he was just “spoiled”!!! Oh thank God!! Praise the Lord! So all those world-renowned doctors at the Baylor College of Medicine at the world-class Houston, Tx medical center were ALL WRONG!!! Yea! Yes sir, that’s it! He’s just SPOILED!!!! Now I can stop worrying that he has a LIFE LONG, DEBILITATING, INCURABLE NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER!

    I also worked as an aid in a school for children with various disabilities at one point. And trust me when I tell you I saw BAD behavior like what is described in the above article.

    While none of this makes me any where close to being an expert, my guess is that there is DEFINITELY something beyond “spoiled” going on here.

    In fact, if I had 10 bucks for every parent I’ve met who had a doctor, teacher, family member or friend who said one of the following, I’d be RICH: “It’s just a phase”, “Every child develops differently”, “He/she just needs discipline”, “You’re just being a nervous/over protective parent”, etc, etc, etc,.

    Spoiled children do throw tantrums. And so do kids who act out do to abuse. And so do kids with severe emotional trauma. And neurological problems. Simply dismissing this childs behavior as spoiled is irresponsible.

  • FrikkenFrak

    I’m going to apologize in advance for what I’m about to say. But you hit a nerve.

    Ok…beyond any child rearing of your possible own, do you have any background in child development?

    I have a 19 year old with Asperger’s Syndrome. When he was 3 and newly diagnosed, I flew out of state with him and thrust him into unusual surroundings. He cried a lot on that trip. My sister in law, with her KNOW IT ALL personality, decided to declare at a family picnic that “there is nothing wrong with your son….he’s just SPOILED”.

    Spoiled??? Hell, I only WISH it was that he was just “spoiled”!!! Oh thank God!! Praise the Lord! So all those world-renowned doctors at the Baylor College of Medicine at the world-class Houston, Tx medical center were ALL WRONG!!! Yea! Yes sir, that’s it! He’s just SPOILED!!!! Now I can stop worrying that he has a LIFE LONG, DEBILITATING, INCURABLE NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER!

    I also worked as an aid in a school for children with various disabilities at one point. And trust me when I tell you I saw BAD behavior like what is described in the above article.

    While none of this makes me any where close to being an expert, my guess is that there is DEFINITELY something beyond “spoiled” going on here.

    In fact, if I had 10 bucks for every parent I’ve met who had a doctor, teacher, family member or friend who said one of the following, I’d be RICH: “It’s just a phase”, “Every child develops differently”, “He/she just needs discipline”, “You’re just being a nervous/over protective parent”, etc, etc, etc,.

    Spoiled children do throw tantrums. And so do kids who act out do to abuse. And so do kids with severe emotional trauma. And neurological problems. Simply dismissing this childs behavior as spoiled is irresponsible.

  • FrikkenFrak

    @Gin
    Just wondering how many years you yourself attended college?

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Jaded

    My guess is that he went as far as reading a college pamphlet.

  • FrikkenFrak

    LMAO!

  • FrikkenFrak

    LMAO!

  • Parrot Toes

    Nah, his parents spelled out the word “College” on the fridge in those colourful magnets. Now he thinks he’s edumacated.

  • Parrot Toes

    Nah, his parents spelled out the word “College” on the fridge in those colourful magnets. Now he thinks he’s edumacated.

  • Parrot Toes

    Nah, his parents spelled out the word “College” on the fridge in those colourful magnets. Now he thinks he’s edumacated.

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    Hmm… is it just me – or does gin seem to have an axe to grind with this teacher? Possibly ALL teachers… but he sure attacks this one with fervor.

    Gin, it is not the teacher’s job to raise our children. They go to college to learn specific *academic* courses to teach our kids. If, in the process of teaching said courses, the teacher can “enhance” what the child knows about respect and how to act in a dignified manner — great! However, these are traits that are best taught at HOME from birth. If an 8 year old doesn’t have a clue about how to behave – that is bad PARENTING – not bad educating in school. This child is a bully. He needs anger management and testing for those disorders frikkenfrak discussed and a mother who isn’t afraid to say “no” and set boundaries. He doesn’t need better teachers.

  • Southern Lady

    Also my thoughts. It’s possible that mom is the one who needs the pepper spray. Repeatedly.

  • Southern Lady

    Good god. Where did you develop this opinion? Did such a thing happen to you in primary school? And do you have children? Please oh please say no.

    Yes, part of most educational curriculum requires you to take psychology 101. That’s it, though. Teachers do instruct you how to maintain conduct in class. They also call the police when needed. Got it?

  • Southern Lady

    Good god. Where did you develop this opinion? Did such a thing happen to you in primary school? And do you have children? Please oh please say no.

    Yes, part of most educational curriculum requires you to take psychology 101. That’s it, though. Teachers do instruct you how to maintain conduct in class. They also call the police when needed. Got it?

  • Anonymous

    Parrot toes you made me spew my coffee

  • wishfulsinful

    Holy shit, I did too, “itellyouhuwat”!! Damn near spat out my Long Island. tsk.

  • Anonymous

    OMG Antoine looks like a woman, he better put som weight on or do some push ups cause he only needs lipstick in that sketch.

  • Anonymous

    It’s written:

    VOLATILE & Kudos.

  • Anonymous

    If it was your classroom & you’d gone to college the 1st thing they tell you is TO NOT TOUCH THE CHILDREN UNLESS THEY FELL/ARE SICK OR NEED HELP. If you’d grab that kid by the ear you’d be slapped with a lawsuit so big your great grandchildren will still be paying yhe settlement because YOU WILL SETTLE.

  • http://profiles.google.com/marchmolly Laura Miller

    In training to become a teacher, I did a semester-long practicum at a special-needs school where we dealt with kids like this all the time. I do not believe that this kind of behavior arises from something as simple as a parent spoiling a child. There may have been some sort of trauma in his background, or he may have a serious disorder that will require medication. The school system failed by not finding an appropriate placement for him earlier, but it can be difficult with so many kids and limited resources. I wouldn’t blame the mother. She seems to be a pretty average lady who’s dealing with an unusual child. Maybe she could be doing more, but it’s really hard dealing with this type of child, and she was handed the problem before she was trained in dealing with it. Let’s hope the new school works out for Aiden, and maybe a doctor will find the right medication to help him. On another note, seeing him with that dog worries me! I’d encourage the mother to find a friend or family member who can care for the dog until Aiden settles down.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUSPJ56WM63ZAO7MYQGILWWWPM aliceinchainsboy

     In this case Duck taped to a desk and Electric Paddle come to mind

  • Cory Wilson

    “Just kind of like whenever anybody upsets me,” he said. “Like I just kind of want to tear them apart… I think it’s not ever going to go away…It’s just who I am.”
    So, how old will he be for his first rape and/or murder?  I puttin 50 on 13

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