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Punta Gorda, Florida — Jerome Nubin has been charged with sexual battery on a 12-year-old, aggravated assault, kidnapping and domestic battery after an incident that happened Wednesday morning.

Police say the 32-year-old man forced his girlfriend to watch him sexually assault her 12-year-old daughter three times. Prior to assaulting the child, Nubin allegedly slapped and punched the mother and threatened both the mother and child with a baseball bat. The child’s grandfather is the one who actually contacted the sheriff’s office. He indicated that Nubin threatened him with a bat and threw bricks, a child’s scooter and a lamp at him.

The child told detectives that Nubin sexually battered her while she was in her mother’s bedroom with her mother present. Detectives said the child and the mother were held against their will by Nubin, who used verbal threats and a baseball bat. According to the press release, Nubin told the girl to take her clothes off or he would cut her throat. He then raped her three times.

Nubin is being held in the Charlotte County Jail without bond. I’d like to know how injured the mother was before she gave up and sat and watched her boyfriend rape her daughter.

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  • aka jas

    Death. Painful, slow and agonizing death.

  • soplisako80

    “I’d like to know how injured the mother was before she gave up and sat and watched her boyfriend rape her daughter.”

    I was thinking the same thing.. My daughter is 12 and I would be damned if I let any man rape her much less in front of me!! Maybe it is just me but I would have broke the nearest glass object in the room and got to stabbing his ass.

  • Anonymous

    I was just thinking how much i loved that comment also. I would have kept at him probably till he killed me. I wouldnt let that creep get at my baby.

  • Anonymous

    Why do people like this think they are going to get away with things like this? Did he plan on locking them away forever or intimidating them into not talking? Some F’d up stuff must be going on in his and many others heads to do things like this. Instead of wasting money and time on waste of life scum like this they should save it all and kill them! Just get rid of these devils. I know i wouldnt miss them… would you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509213380 Maria Kintner

    I would have gladly enjoyed every one of my required three meals, been someone’s bitch and wore an orange jumpsuit for the rest of my life if it meant I got to get stabby on anyone who tried to touch my kids. I trust no one, which is why I remain single.

  • rebecca

    a couple of blows and a baseball bat would be hardly enough to keep me from protecting my child. a fucking nuke wouldn’t keep me at bay. this woman needs some therapy and self defense classes.

    hopefully the prison guard will keep the inmates informed as to what this sick fuck has done.

  • Anonymous

    I would be dead or he would be. No WAY I would watch my child go through that and just watch.

  • Breadstix

    wow…she watched him rape her daughter three times? that couldn’t have been me. he would have had to kill me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_55ZMWGS6WERWFTN773SHQEFGTY Raquel

    Wow, he most definitely would have to kill me before he touched my child. And good f’ng luck with that, when it comes to my babies its on like donkey kong!

  • Anonymous

    Now i understand why in the dark ages they impale people on sticks naked for the whole world to see . . . it sets examples.

  • melb1970

    Remaining a single mother with her head on straight has it’s rewards: for one you don’t have to worry about shit like this ever happening.

  • melb1970

    I can’t see letting this happen in front of me, I’d have to be crippled or unconscious. This breaks my heart for this little girl.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LOIVCXIKMPYW3TJHCVYHB3YCBQ justine

    How brave all of you are, knowing exactly what you would do in a situation at which you weren’t present and had no idea of the threat level. How intellectually superior to imply that the mother was more concerned for her own skin than her daughter’s, without knowing the facts. Jumping to conclusions uses rope that usually unravels.

  • Anonymous

    How brave of Justine to explain in a superior matter about how intelectually supior you are because you never will judge anyone till you know all the fact, because you are so superior…

  • guillotinegirl

    What’s with the mugshot? Did the person who took it have Parkinson’s?

  • Parrot Toes

    You are soooo insensitive.

    I love it. :)

  • Parrot Toes

    This has got to be the most vile form of rape and torture to inflict on a parent and child. It should equal an automatic death sentence. Fucking makes me shudder.

    I also agree with most of you freaky folks, no way in HELL would he be touching my kid without either killing me first or being stabbed to nothing but a fleshy pile of unrecognizable pulp and bony bits, even if I had to do it with my own fingernails.

  • Parrot Toes

    “Jumping to conclusions uses rope that usually unravels.”

    Sorry but there was no rope used in the construction of my conclusion. I used invisible and unbreakable superwire. I can’t speak for the rest of these Demonites though, but they all seem like an intelligent and reasonable bunch. I’m sure they all had their own methods and pile of conclusion-building materials.

    Seriously though, I don’t think any of us are jumping to a conclusion as much as we are speaking our opinions. Of course there are situations where I’m sure the mother may have been incapable of being able to do anything. The problem with the article is that it leaves those possibilities out. Nothing was mentioned about her being tied up or beaten over the head with the bat so hard that it rendered her immobile. We are simply imagining that under this womens situation without those scenarios in place, we all imagine that we would do everything in our power to not allow this prick to do what he did. Parental instinct really, or it should be.

  • Anonymous

    Everybody knows how they think they would act. We don’t know what he told her and she may have been told the child would get out alive if she just shut up and watched… but I don’t know.

    The child and the mother got out alive. Could you guarantee that?

  • Anonymous

    If he killed you what do you think would happen to you daughter after the rapes? We weren’t there and we shouldn’t comdemn the mother/victim.

  • Anonymous

    Amen!

  • Anonymous

    Eh.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s give the mother a fair trial and then hang her.

  • Anonymous

    Being dead, what would happen to your daughter after the rape?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe the mother was tightly bound and gagged. Just sayin’.

    We all know how our system works, but it is inherently satisfying to entertain oneself by implementing our own styles of punishment and vengeance. For this exercise, I would personally like to see Jerome Nubin tied to a stake in the village square with a stick of dynamite up his ass while the girl and mom step forward to light the fuse.

  • Anonymous

    So let me get this straight, he makes your daughter undress, HE PUTS THE BAT DOWN & RAPES HER 3 TIMES & YOU CAN’T GRAB THE BAT ONE OF THOSE 2 TIMES & HIT HIM IN THE HEAD SO YOU CAN RUN & CALL THE COPS ( & GRAB YOUR KID?!?)

    She didn’t deserve it, neither one of them did but why would you date someone with crazy hair!? IT WAS GIVING YOU A HINT OF WHAT LURKED INSIDE UNDERNEATH IT!!!

  • Anonymous

    So let me get this straight, he makes your daughter undress, HE PUTS THE BAT DOWN & RAPES HER 3 TIMES & YOU CAN’T GRAB THE BAT ONE OF THOSE 2 TIMES & HIT HIM IN THE HEAD SO YOU CAN RUN & CALL THE COPS ( & GRAB YOUR KID?!?)

    She didn’t deserve it, neither one of them did but why would you date someone with crazy hair!? IT WAS GIVING YOU A HINT OF WHAT LURKED INSIDE UNDERNEATH IT!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    get off your dudley do right horse.

    i think a child would fair much better knowing their mother fought for them to the fucking death rather than just gave up and let it happen.

    the child after the fact would feel humiliation, betrayal, and never feel secure with her mother again. i don’t see a child coming out of something that traumatic with the attitude “mommy watched for our safety.” give me a fucking break.

    i’d rather see my daughter dead and myself dead than go down without a fight.

    ESPECIALLY since he wasn’t fucking armed with anything more than a bat? a brick? a knife? these are things that are no more dangerous than something you can pick up in a room and fight back with.

    i think a lot of these women know that and that is why they are saying these things.

    these are also women who have told us that they’d never let their BOYFRIENDS near their fucking kids until a good long courtship.

    so yeah, i think every mother here who said they’d fight back (since he was only wielding some foreign objects) would and could.

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    i honestly think if the mother was bound and gagged they would have reported that. not just out of fairness to her, but it would make the story a bit more juicy for the readers – and we all know that’s what matters.

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    if you’d allow your daughter to be raped 3 times while being threatened with a bat – i beg of you to never reproduce.

    i also want to add.. they didn’t mention this bitch being bound and gagged – which means this guy had to have his back turned for at LEAST 2 minutes while he raped her – and that wasn’t ample opportunity to whack this fuck in the back of the head???

    any mother who would stand by while her penis did this, isn’t a fucking mother at all.

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    if you’d allow your daughter to be raped 3 times while being threatened with a bat – i beg of you to never reproduce.

    i also want to add.. they didn’t mention this bitch being bound and gagged – which means this guy had to have his back turned for at LEAST 2 minutes while he raped her – and that wasn’t ample opportunity to whack this fuck in the back of the head???

    any mother who would stand by while her penis did this, isn’t a fucking mother at all.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_55ZMWGS6WERWFTN773SHQEFGTY Raquel

    No ones condemning her, or at least I’m not. I was simply stating what would happen had I been in that situation. And yes, you’re right my child would probably end up being raped IF he killed me, but like I said, good luck with that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_55ZMWGS6WERWFTN773SHQEFGTY Raquel

    No ones condemning her, or at least I’m not. I was simply stating what would happen had I been in that situation. And yes, you’re right my child would probably end up being raped IF he killed me, but like I said, good luck with that.

  • Athena

    Well-stated. It’s a hard choice to make, but I’d rather this outcome than watching my daughter be murdered as the result of my struggle to protect her, or die myself and have her most likely get raped anyway AND have to live with the loss of her mother.

    I understand the animalistic reaction that leads us to believe we’d die first… but we don’t know the details.

  • Athena

    Who’s on the high horse, here?

    As a daughter who lost her mom young, I can tell you that her absence impacts me far more negatively than any of the trauma – all of the trauma combined – I’ve sustained in my life.

    You can get over all sorts of trauma. You can’t get over dead. And, personally, as a mother, I’d rather have the chance to help my daughter heal (rape victims CAN heal) than do something that contributes to her death (or mine).

    I find your theory about how she would feel if her mother died helping her to be rather inaccurate. Odds are, this 12 year old would feel crushing guilt for quite some time. In fact, she may never get over that guilt.

    Lastly, I find it rather bizarre that you would downplay the weapon he was carrying, as if it’s “just” a bat. I would implore you to Google stories of the countless women beaten to death by a man wielding “just” a bat.

    I doubt the mother stood by with a smile on her face. So long as she did something – anything – more than that, even if it was just yelling and screaming, her child won’t likely hold her inaction against her.

    Perhaps some should ask a 12 year old girl if she’d rather be dead than raped if it meant that her mom fought protect her. I doubt you’d find many who would prefer death.

  • Athena

    I’ve already reproduced. Haha! Too late. :P

    Let’s take a moment to think about this RATIONALLY. All of this big, armed, violent man’s aggression is targeted at the daughter. She’s already been slapped and punched, threatened with getting her throat slit… it’s HER getting raped. We have every reason to believe that, if mom did ANYTHING, it would be taken out on her daughter. We don’t know much about mom, so let’s assume she’s an average sized woman. The odds that she would deliver a blow to him that would do anything more than anger him is slim. Realistically, the only person an average sized woman is delivering a debilitating blow to is a child or maybe another average sized woman.

    She had every reason to believe that, if she attacked or attempted to intervene in any way, it was her daughter who would pay the ultimate price. Any woman who would risk that just so they could sleep better at night knowing they exhibited some short-sighted “bravery” is the one who should think twice about reproducing, in my opinion.

    In a situation like this, you don’t get involved unless you KNOW you can take out the attacker, or you’ll just be making things worse for the victim. If mom knew she couldn’t take this guy out (he looks pretty big from his mug), to try anyway would have just been reckless.

  • Anonymous

    Hooray for the grand-father!

    I am not prepared to condemn the mother on the evidence we have heard so far. If she has been intimidated by him for a while she would have found it more than difficult to stand up to him. Old habits die hard. Which is why the daughters of all our DD’ers are probably safer from harm than the general populace………

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    haha boy do i have more grasp on this story than you can ever imagine death, bats and all.

    sorry but i’m going to have to pull the been there done that card and tell you as a young girl – i know exactly what i’m talking about. a little older than her when my brother went off on a rescue mission and got himself killed, helping a family in need. a few years after that a murder suicide was involved in my family.

    as a person who’s lost family members in TRAUMATIC ways – i know getting over death is a hell of a lot easier than getting over SENSELESS death. unfortunately i have both deaths to compare these feelings to.

    for good measure i’ll go ahead and tell you i have been at the beat down of a bat – and you know what i fucking did??? i grabbed the other side of it and wrestled the fucking thing away. from two boys the same age as i was (14 yrs). it’s amazing what you can do when you think your life depends on it. i’m verrry aware of the impact a bat can have on the body – but what? i was going to let them beat me because they threatened to kill me? yeah. fucking. right.

    so what i find bizzare is that as a 14 year old girl actually being HIT with the bat, i was compelled to take on these two guys and go for broke. i can only imagine what i would have done if a family member was at stake! fuck i’d of turned the bat on them! and that’s a 14 year old.

    so, i will down play a bat. as a bat is no more dangerous than a wooden chair. meaning this mother could have easily picked up an equally “dangerous” object and went to town. OR just struggled

    not to mention this was all done by a fucking BOYFRIEND. i mean that just ices the fucking cake. this just totally paints the scenario of an irresponsible mother who let the penis near her brood a little too early and didn’t bother to get to know him. (very aware the closest people you think you know are capable of monstrous things but that’s beside the point.)

    so yeah all the people who tend to spout off about what they would do in a situation when it comes to family members i believe them.

  • Athena

    Oh, I believe them, too (sometimes). I just like to point out when what they say they’d do might be the wrong choice, as it most likely would have been here. Mom could very well have gotten her daughter killed by intervening. After all, this wasn’t a 14 year old we’re talking about, here. This is a violent, grown-ass man who had more evil in him than a whole tribe of 14 year old boys. Not even Lord of the Flies was fucked up on this level.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/LK5RVGTJSUWBV334L2QLTYL6XU jeff d

    my god your my hero,my e wife is suck a ho and lets my kids see everyone who gets with her…and theres nothing i can do about it,good job sweetheart.your the way my x wife needs to be.btw,if anything happens to my kids while shes doing this,you might see me on this page.

  • Parrot Toes

    In my imagination of this scenario (without knowing how incapacitated this woman actually was, so I can imagine that she wasn’t), I’m not the one who dies. HE does.

  • Parrot Toes

    In my imagination of this scenario (without knowing how incapacitated this woman actually was, so I can imagine that she wasn’t), I’m not the one who dies. HE does.

  • Anonymous

    @Athena: You are a wise person.

  • Anonymous

    @Athena: You are a wise person.

  • Anonymous

    You sound quite hardened by life. I believe the general population doesn’t live in fear knowing exactly how to handle rough situations. I am sorry you lost your brother (something I cannot imagine), but I will tell you that your children need you in the long run (beyond your future great grandmotherly) no matter what happens in the immediate moment. I don’t think the mother’s or the daughter’s death would make this situation even more horrific.

  • Anonymous

    How can you be sure if you haven’t been there?

  • Anonymous

    Not having a trial before the impaling sends a message too.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. It is unimaginable and knowing what to do in the situation would mean having to be there.

  • Anonymous

    @Justine: Very insightful.

  • Anonymous

    Your dog died in the street. Oh yeah, meant to tell you he wasn’t hit by a car.

  • Anonymous

    Your dog died in the street. Oh yeah, meant to tell you he wasn’t hit by a car.

  • Anonymous

    You think or know that?

  • Anonymous

    You think or know that?

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    HA! hardened by life? yeah i get that a lot when people don’t know what other way to turn the table they then resort to that particular comment (one of my favorites if i do say so myself).

    my life experiences have never “hardened” me. they’ve simply given me a better insight to what others may or may not be thinking in certain situations.

    it appears to me that most of these comments know exactly what they would do in a rough situation. oh but they’re just “hardened” by life. lol!

    that’s called instinct buddy. and nothing more.

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    i wasn’t in the least comparing a 14 year olds size or strength in the matter. i was comparing the the instinct/mentality i had in regards to the situation at a young age. instinct/morale this woman painfully lacked in this situation.

    i mean honestly if i really sit here and think about it too long. i begin to bet the fucking cunt let him because he wanted to fuck her daughter, because i can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around allowing that shit to take place – not once.. not twice.. but three times.

    i’ve tried to weigh it, and it doesn’t sit well. there’s no sympathy to be had for this rotten bitch, she couldn’t pay me to see her side of it. her and her darling penis can soak in a vat of acid.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XDTWTPWS2WEG7TT4VVY4O67CRM Shannah G

    It is true that you never really know how you will react in a life-threatening situation. I was in one before and so scared that I was unable to react in self-defense. My mind was going in a million directions at once – I kept thinking my best chance was to reason with him and to be submissive (non-threatening) and put him at ease, hoping that it wouldn’t lead to me getting killed. Hoping that I could get an opportunity at some point to make a run for it. Well it is only by the grace of God that I survived because his intent was to kill me although he told me that if I did what he said, I wouldn’t be harmed. I was told to walk ahead of him down the hallway…as I began to comply, I felt something around my neck suddenly and he was using it to try to strangle me. By some miracle, someone intervened and I’m alive to tell about it today. The fact of the matter is this: he intended to kill me regardless of whether I remained passive or became aggressive. My stupidity almost landed me 6 feet underground. I can honestly say that if I were to be put in this situation again, I would not assume the perpetrator is “nice or fair” in any manner. I will assume it is life or death…his life or mine and you can be sure that I won’t go down without giving him the fight of his life. I am very lucky to have a second chance and I will never forget what my choice to remain passive almost cost me. Very simply: I would KILL the person who is unfortunate enough to pick me or my child to rape. Odds are great that he would kill us both after he was done anyway.
    That jerk is extremely lucky it wasn’t my daughter he chose to exploit. He might enter my house with sex in his brain but he would leave with something else in there…whatever pointed object I was able to get my hands on and plunge into his thick skull. Just remember…..surviving a murder attempt isn’t something you typically get a second chance at. Do what you have to in order to survive and protect your loved ones. (just my opinion)

  • Parrot Toes

    Eh.

  • Athena

    Um, YEAH, Domino… the 14 year old mentality is IMPULSIVE. It has a hard time thinking actions through ’til their logical end. Furthermore, there’s a big difference between the mentality of a child being attacked and a parent watching their child being attacked, knowing that their involvement could kill their child. So, I find that particular comparison to be rather inaccurate.

    Again, if this mom thought she could win, she should have jumped in. She probably couldn’t win. YOU probably couldn’t. In fact, I’d pay good money right now to see you in a ring with a big black man armed with a bat and see who won. 10 to 1 says you’d get your ass BEAT. I probably would, too, and I’m a nearly 6′ tall amazonian bitch with fight training.

    If she jumped in and LOST, it would potentially cost her daughter her life. This dude doesn’t seem like the type to make threats lightly, and he clearly knew the worst way to punish mom was to terrorize her daughter. If you would make a wager like that, I implore you to weigh it a little longer.

    Believing you’re a badass doesn’t make you one. More so, just because you think you could take the guy in this situation doesn’t mean that she could, so projecting is useless.

    But why do I even argue? You’re going to believe what you believe regardless, it seems, no matter how logical an argument I make.

    Bottom line: Mom’s a victim, too, in my opinon. I hope NONE of us finds out what it’s like to be in this kind of situation.

  • Athena

    Animals have “instinct”. When your child’s life is on the line, you need something a bit more sophisticated than that… something like, “judgment”.

  • Anonymous

    No offense, but if a lot of people call you “hardened” you might want to do a little reflecting… get some outside help. It might help your parenting skills (not telling you how to raise your kids, but we can all use some outside help now and again).

  • Anonymous

    ROFL

  • Anonymous

    For many reasons I hope you are never in a situation where little or no evidence convicts you and you have to deal with public ridicule.

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    People are assuming a lot in here so let’s keep it moving but not in the continued direction to vilify the mother this time…

    You are assuming that this man only had a bat, though it has been stated that he had a knife up to the daughters throat. Knives are serious business, I don’t own guns…because I own knives and know how to use them very well.

    So let’s say that this sicko had a knife to the angels throat while FACING the mother and resting on top of the girl. All he would have to do at the point is to tell the girl to pull up her skirt or gown or pull down her pants and underwear. All while just glancing at the girl but looking at the mother mostly (and sick people love to see pain on faces). You don’t have to pull down your pants to rape someone, all you need to do is whip out your junk and most sexually active, adult men know how to line up their penis with a vag without holding it so once again he COULD have had an arm free to hold her, one arm to hold the knife around the daughters neck and look at the mom.

    Next assumption, since power turns sick men on let’s assume that he didn’t have to get off of the girl to rape her three times. He may have never even gone soft until the third time because he was getting off by the control of the situation.

    Last assumption, since he is obviously a disgusting punk azz dude that means he is probably mentally and physically abusive to the mother. Depending on the kind of mind that the mother had she could have been paralyzed by fear. Though I am not the paralyze by fear (except for public speaking and heights) sort of lady I do understand totally understand that it is a real psychological thing that should not be taken lightly.

    So no, I will not condemn this mother until PROOF is out that she just stood in a corner, eating Doritoes and watching the floor show.

    As a victim of molestation let me just say that I would have beat this man within an inch of his life and couldn’t move then called police while continuing to kick him in his face because that’s just the kind of lady that I am. I never want my child to have to deal with the horrible things that rape and molestation can do to you mentally for the rest of your life. He would not be dead because prisoners would take care of him for me plus I am not going to be taken away from from my babies due to something that I could control. Not to mention for me I would know that God said “Vengeance is mine” and nothing I would do would compare to the things that would happen to him, while alive but not by my hands.

    But just because I’m a fighter and strong in mind doesn’t mean that this mother was. We just don’t know what was done or going through her mind so to call her “bitches” and other names is just harsh and unfair to me. If she is a good mother she is already beating herself up minutely because she didn’t do anything more to protect her child.

    I will go back to my several year lurker mode now….

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    yes. something like stand by and allow her to be brutally raped. amazing judgment! grade a.

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    LOL! my kids? coming from a single man, who’s obviously divorced or never married the breeder to begin with. now you’re just trying to make this a poo flinging contest, but really it’s nothing i didn’t expect out of your type.

    i have difference of opinion, and one thing i can’t stand is someone assuming because the other person has a difference of opinion is that they’re skills are some how inferior than the others. if this story would have read “MOM MURDER’S BOYFRIEND DAUGHTER SAVED FROM RAPE” everyone would have rejoiced and no such comments would be read – i find that probably the most disturbing about your type.

    as for the sheeple.

    the majority of people stick to the same phrase mostly because the majority of people are just that. the same sheeple that bah and shit with the herd. they tend to never think outside the box.

    i’ve been called a woman hater. a man hater. a troll. – it really all has to do with what exactly i’m saying at the moment. however because i tend to take an unfavorable seat with the do right’s on these boards i am called insensitive and hardened (but it still ranks as my favorite) if i blame the 17 yr old girl for being drunk and getting herself raped and preach about safety i’m then fearful and uptight – quite the contrast.

    so look – you’re ridiculous if you think the majority of someone’s attempt at a last stand with me is at the very least a valid calculation of the person i am.

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    my ex boyfriend was 5’9 and 270 pounds when he tried to throw my ass around. i’m 5’5 and 180ish pounds (i blame the video games).

    he was in for some serious humiliation – AND NOT BECAUSE I’M SOME BILLY BAD ASS! i truly felt like i was in danger and i was going to die if i didn’t do something back – although i’m sure he was just going to slap my mouth shove me around and try to dominate like most of these apes. however, i felt fear for death and i am absolutely fucking amazed at what you’re capable of when your neck is on the line. i have no fight training. so i’m going to go ahead and say if you’re 6 feet tall AND have fight training, you have severely underestimated yourself.

    it’s been awhile since a story on this internet has brought out some real passion in myself. well this and michael moore telling the world gun owner’s are fearful racists. so as the old saying goes, agree to disagree. and pray to god we never have to find out who would end up dead or alive in a situation like this.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0465071732/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link
    I wish I had the power to make every single female in the world read this damned book. Especially mothers. Especially mothers that have the potential to end up here.
    I’m not condemning this mother in particular, as many people have stated, we dont really know what the hell happened and Angel’s Mom makes a hell of a point. Still, for some reason, all the comments made me think of it.

  • Parrot Toes

    I just want to point out that it wasn’t stated that he HAD a knife, only that he threatened to cut the daughter’s throat. With how vague the article was on how exactly the mother was incapacitated so as not to be able to help her daughter, I was only able to carry that vagueness into the rest of the story and I am left to wonder if he threatened with an actual knife in hand or if he threatened meaning that he would get one. That’s just my view of how I read the story.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XDTWTPWS2WEG7TT4VVY4O67CRM Shannah G

    Very good points, Angel’s Mom…
    I think most of the postings reflect anger, frustration and disgust at the thought of this animal being able to rape a child 3x and make the mom watch. Both mom and daughter were victims and it is a sad reminder that trust is not to be given lightly to ANYONE when it comes to your children.
    I made it a point not to condemn the mother because I agree – she probably was paralyzed by fear. Especially if her relationship with this man was an abusive one because she already knew what he was capable of in anger. As I said, I’ve been there and it is easy to say you would react one way or another but you never really know until you’ve been placed in such a situation.
    But I do hold the mother accountable to an extent for using bad judgement unless she had absolutely no way of knowing this man could or would be capable of violence or abuse of any kind. To be honest, I would be wary of this man just from looking at his photo. His facial hair isn’t neatly trimmed – he looks scraggly and his hair-do looks like he came out on the losing end of a fight with a shop-vac. Ok, forget appearance for a moment…just because he looks bedraggled doesn’t mean he isn’t the sweetest person in the world – someone who spends his weekends serving plate lunches to the homeless. But I hardly think this wonderful specimen of a boyfriend suddenly snapped, became out of control and decided to embark upon a raping spree. If there were any red flags about his character during the course of the time she dated this man, she should have heeded them. I am not saying he wasn’t capable of fooling this mother and her family/ friends by appearing to be a model citizen and a hardworking potential step-father-to-be for her child. But I am not convinced that this woman based her decisions on the best interest of her child (or herself) in this case. I see so many senseless incidents happen these days just because the woman refuses to see or acknowledge the warning signs of what caliber of man she allows into her home with her children. We don’t know all the details so this could have happened at random, surprising everyone who thought they “knew” this man. Something tells me that there’s more to the story and that she knew without a doubt that he wasn’t a very nice person. I hope to be proven wrong, obviously….because if I am wrong then perhaps the woman won’t allow another “just like him” into her home with her children.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XDTWTPWS2WEG7TT4VVY4O67CRM Shannah G

    I am curious to know how the grandfather fits into this picture…he is the one who actually contacted the police. Was he there? Did she call him? How did he get threatened with the baseball bat and have bricks, scooters and a lamp thrown at him? Why did she call her dad instead of the cops? Why did he show up at the home before the cops? Or were they all staying in the same house together? So many questions and zero logic….definitely more to the story than some random incident where the boyfriend just “snapped.”

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    You are right about the mother being responsible for the person that she had around her baby in the first place and that is very upsetting to me as well.

  • http://www.myspace.com/___Domino___ Domino

    i really like this true life account, but most ground breaking is your hind sight about the matter. glad it turned out for the better.

    unfortunately for women, if you take any aggressive stance in a public manner you’re seen as just spouting off.

    as a girl who’s fairly physically docile (only a few physical altercations) i can tell you first time i was confronted with a dangerous situation at a young age i had no prior training, i had just moved from a rural community into a terrible neighborhood. i had a bat beat down and they told me to stop moving or they’d keep hitting me – well they’d already hit me once and i did at first think to listen – after the second blow everything went red and rage set in, i relied on everything animal i had in me. i got up, i grabbed the other end of the bat and gave it all i had. when i wrestled that bat away (while the other guy was punching my sides and holding my hair) when i was the one in control of the bat those fucks were so shocked and scared that i had the weapon of choice that they took off running.

    i can tell you from two very physical situations against men that women underestimate themselves. a little bit of a adrenaline goes such a long way.

    i promote fighting back, because of accounts like yours and because of my own discovery of what people are capable of in a time of crisis. ALL people, not just the “bad asses”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XDTWTPWS2WEG7TT4VVY4O67CRM Shannah G

    http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-01-20/Punta-Gorda-man-arrested-accused-of-raping-child
    There is a news video and more about the incident at the link above. This guy has a previous criminal record; she recently let him move in; the little girl was withdrawn and wouldn’t talk to other kids in the neighborhood…..
    The rapes occurred from 12 am to 3 am. Grandfather showed up around 8:30 am. Neighbors were in close vicinity….from what I can gather, he had only a baseball bat but I’m sure kitchen knives, etc. were accessible (ie the threat of slitting her throat). I don’t know what kept the mom from running out of the home with the daughter – to the safety of neighbors…or calling 911, even if it meant dialing the number and hiding the receiver so he wouldn’t know the call was made (they would still alert the cops to the residence).
    Sorry…as much as I would like to think the woman was blameless, I feel that she could have done SOMETHING more than just remain idle throughout the ordeal. Too many avenues that could have been taken and weren’t. When he was busy throwing things at the grandfather, mom & child could have run to safety…thankfully the grandfather called the police or it may never have been reported.
    Of course it is possible that they had no phone, he had them cornered in a small room & did not leave even to go to the bathroom, etc etc etc. Bottom line, the child was withdrawn, her living conditions were horrible (based on pictures of the home in & out). I personally think mom and boyfriend should be sitting in adjacent cells at the local jail. That little girl deserved so much more than the life she was provided…happy, well-adjusted children to not withdraw from social contact.
    Ok…I’m done ranting! I, too, will go back to my lurker status :-)

  • Zibarro aka Kryssa

    http://www.nbc-2.com/Global/story.asp?S=13877415

    Another video to watch. His mom and sister are claiming he’s innocent (of course) “It’s false accusations”. Uh huh. Sure it is. Forensics doesn’t lie.

    Here are his charges: Nubin remains in the Charlotte County Jail without bond. He is charged with three counts of Sexual Battery on a 12 year old; three counts of Aggravated Assault; Kidnapping of a Child, and Domestic Battery.

    Waiting for more updates. But agree with Shannah – that yard was atrocious! WTH? Wonder now what it looks like inside! {{shudder}}

    Poor kid. Sounds like she was already fucked up. Praying for some serious counseling to come her way — she’s gonna need it. Mom, too.

  • Anonymous

    i think it’s suspect how the mother watched her daughter get raped 3 times. He can not possibly
    hold a weapon and rape the daughter at the same time. And the mother never reported to the
    police it was the grandfather. I am n suspicious of the mom’s involvement!

  • http://twitter.com/AngelsMom0806 Angels Mom

    If these details are true then I no longer have any sympathy for the mother. Hang that heffa…

  • Anonymous

    for me i would lay down my life to protect any child ! i know how to do a bat deflection shoot they were in a bedroom pillows aare usually everywhere use that to deflect the swing and use a lamp upside that bastards head. shoot i would have lunged him right off of her and such. i so hope he will be made someones bitch in prison painfully. i hate anyone who hurts or abuses a child to me they are not human but garbage to be disposed of . my heart goes out to that poor lil girl may she have the strength and courage to rise from this horror that happened to her. ill be praying for her.

  • Anonymous

    for me i would lay down my life to protect any child ! i know how to do a bat deflection shoot they were in a bedroom pillows aare usually everywhere use that to deflect the swing and use a lamp upside that bastards head. shoot i would have lunged him right off of her and such. i so hope he will be made someones bitch in prison painfully. i hate anyone who hurts or abuses a child to me they are not human but garbage to be disposed of . my heart goes out to that poor lil girl may she have the strength and courage to rise from this horror that happened to her. ill be praying for her.

  • Anonymous

    for me i would lay down my life to protect any child ! i know how to do a bat deflection shoot they were in a bedroom pillows aare usually everywhere use that to deflect the swing and use a lamp upside that bastards head. shoot i would have lunged him right off of her and such. i so hope he will be made someones bitch in prison painfully. i hate anyone who hurts or abuses a child to me they are not human but garbage to be disposed of . my heart goes out to that poor lil girl may she have the strength and courage to rise from this horror that happened to her. ill be praying for her.

  • Anonymous

    im not a mom but thats how i was raised to protect the weaker ones and young ones by any means necessary if u loose your life so be it

  • Anonymous

    What mom had done was certainly a question that popped in my mind as well. However, if someone had made a foolish mistake costing me this life over the things I’d gone through as a child???…well, lets just say I very well may not be here to go peek in on, and kiss the rosy little cheeks of the most beautiful thing that could have ever happened to me in my entire life this evening. Easy to speculate when you are Not the one who was in the midst of the turmoil… Each situation poses it’s own unique calls for ‘action’.

  • Anonymous

    I will also add, that a child may not share your sentiment over ‘everyone going under for the cause’…when life or death is the question at hand. Our pains in life should not reside on the shoulders of our children.

  • Anonymous

    I will also add, that a child may not share your sentiment over ‘everyone going under for the cause’…when life or death is the question at hand. Our pains in life should not reside on the shoulders of our children.

  • Anonymous

    I will also add, that a child may not share your sentiment over ‘everyone going under for the cause’…when life or death is the question at hand. Our pains in life should not reside on the shoulders of our children.

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  • Darrell Fine

    FML… Why does it seem like all the worse stories on here originate in FLORIDA. SumBITCH we need to ship those fuckers somewhere else…. this shit is getting ridiculous.

  • operator00

    I like how you think. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rochell-Arnold/100000587657456 Rochell Arnold

    I would have probably died defending my daughter before some pitiful disgusting mouth breather touched a hair on her head. Absolutely sick shiz!

  • http://www.krashthrills.wordpress.com/ Anthony Mandich

    hey this didn’t happen in florida did it?

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