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11-Year-Old Boy Accused Of Raping 8-Year-Old Girl

October 20, 2010 at 6:31 am by  

Roseburg, OR - Police say an 11-year-old boy is being held at Douglas County Juvenile Department facing charges of first-degree rape, sodomy, sex abuse and kidnapping in connection with the alleged sexual assault of an 8-year-old girl. According to authorities, the girl’s mother called the Douglas County dispatch center Saturday afternoon to report that she had witnessed the boy having sex with the girl. The children were apparently playing together outside when mom heard screaming and ran out to investigate, catching the boy in the act. The girl was taken to the hospital for an examination and treatment for injuries she received during the alleged assault. The boy, who was picked up by his mother before police arrived, was arrested at his home a short time later. If convicted on the charges, the boy could face incarceration in the Oregon Youth Authority system until the age of 25.

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  • ProudWife05

    Wow…..

    After reading this, the first question that came to mind was where did this 11yr old CHILD learn this from? IMO, something had to have happened to this little boy for him to display this type of behavior or had to have seen this type of stuff some place. Most normal children do not do this stuff. I think the police to need to take a closer look into the boys home life & the kind of people that this child is around. This is very sad for both parties involved.

  • Lexismom

    I was thinking the same thing . Where did he learn it from ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=105102733 Erik Brown

    This comment will probably be misunderstood, but the kid is 11 years old. I thought a major proponent for protecting their sexual rights was that they’re incapable of understand the implications of having intercourse.

    Why’s that 11 year old kid getting a possible 14 years when, as was stated above me, he obviously picked up such violent sexual behavior from an external variable? Seems like action should be taken, but not something that very serious.

  • Anonymous

    Someone needs to take a very close look at this boys home life…seems like something pretty bad is happening with this kid. I know that some people are just born screwed up, but I think that is probably the minority. Some deep psychological help would probably work better than juvie. That poor little girl though:(

  • Anonymous

    OMFG what is happening!? In 6 grade you start laughing at everything that sounds rather sexual & yet you still play hop scotch or jump rope outside. Heck video games are still more important than the opposite sex. RAPE? SODOMY? KIDNAPPING?

    Please tell me that from this someone else is gonna get charged with paedophilia & is going to jail. Oh & btw, wouldn’t this 11yr old be attracted to a girl in HIS class?

    I somehow can’t bring myself to be mean to this rapist in the making since it’s just too young & he MIGHT be able to get fixed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andycarpenterjr Andy Carpenter

    He is a poster child for sadistic pedophilia. If he’s doing this shit at age 11, imagine what he’s going to do at age 20. I say lock the little bastard up and force him to get treatment for being such a little sick fuck.

  • Anonymous

    Your comment alone… answers the end question … can he be fixed? Someone younger therefore smaller… what do predators prey upon… the weak. The turn on for him was the same as any other sexual predator, the fear and the control and the screams… I hate to say it but fixing somethings is just beyond our power.

  • Anonymous

    “I somehow can’t bring myself to be mean to this rapist in the making since it’s just too young & he MIGHT be able to get fixed.”

    Rapist in the MAKING? This sadistic ratbastard is not a rapist “in the making.” And you can’t bring yourself to be MEAN to him? I am flabbergasted by your post. I’m sorry, but did we just read the same article? Rape is rape. If it was against the girl’s will, then that is called rape. This wasn’t just 2 kids fooling around and experimenting. The much-younger girl (3 years is a big difference in kid-years) was screaming.

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t necessarly have to be something dramatic. Honestly, society sends many cues to young men and to boys that its fine (and even manly/cool) to basically force themselves on girls or otherwise pressure them into giving up the goods. “Your lips say no, but your eyes say yes,” etc. Maybe he’s been playing Grand Theft Auto, who knows?

  • Anonymous

    11 year old boy=another sad product of our sick fucked up society-i’ve got to stop reading this crap…i’m losing all hope for humanity.

  • Gee

    I’m sorry but as horrible as this is I can’t help but to wonder what has happen to this boy in the past.
    I find it hard to believe he just did this because he had some horrible to do so. I think with long term quality therapy this kid can be normal productive citizen. Putting him in juvenile detention until he is 25 isn’t going to fix this. If that is all they do with him then I think he will continue this horribly behavior until he is caught again.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry, but that’s nonsense. There are plenty of 11 year olds growing up in our “sick fucked up society” who somehow manage to grasp that rape is wrong.

  • Anonymous

    I think I see what you’re saying. Why is this 11 year old responsible for his actions, but a 16 year old who chooses to sleep with a 20 year old is a victim, incapable of making their own decisions?

    But this isn’t about sex, it’s about RAPE. I mean real rape, not that ‘statutory’ BS. And it’s not obvious that he picked it up ‘externally’, and even if he did, that doesn’t excuse his actions.

    An 11 year old may not understand the implications of intercourse, but they sure as shit know that when someone’s screaming at you to stop, you’re hurting them. And they should know that hurting people is wrong. If they don’t get that at 11, they probably never will.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to disagree, SG, but if it was true that society is training boys to be rapists, there would be a lot more of these cases, as all boys are exposed to ‘society’. And I’ve been playing GTA and other violent games since I was a kid, and it never occurred to me that I should go rape someone. I’ve never even stolen a car!

    Some people are just broken…

  • Lexismom

    I agree with u . What is 14 years in juvie going to do for this kid ? I think it will make things worse. He needs some serious counseling / psychiatric care . How many years would a Grown man get for committing this same crime ?
    I have an 11 year old son , and he I more interested in playing football , and basketball , than girls ! I know all kids are different … But I honestly believe that this kid saw this somewhere else ! He learned it from someone , and I hope we get a update on this story .
    Either way , this boy is still a child !

  • Lexismom

    I see your point SG …. But IMO , I believe he learned this from someone , whether on purpose , or he walked in on mom and dad / boyfriend a few times ! Maybe he rented porn on demand . It certainly doesn’t excuse it by any means , but I think this kid needs a doctor ! Not 14 years in lockup !

  • ProudWife05

    S.G. sorry, but I hate when video games are blamed for bad behavior. I have to blame the parents. The reason being is that you as a parent have make sure that your kids understand that a video game is NOT reality. If you die or whatever in a game, you have no extra life, not so in the real world. I have a step-son who is 12yrs old, he plays all kinds of games, GTA is not one of them, just me being a prude I guess. But anyway, he fully understands that the a game is just that, a game. He also has some issues of his own, like he may be 12yrs old by age, but not by mind, more like 9-10 yrs old. He has ADHD, or so the doctors say. I say at times its lack of an ass whooping syndrome his whole life from his mom & my husband, his dad. He has never raped anyone or beat the crap out of anyone. He has never taken his step-dads hunting rifle and shot someone. My point is that it’s not video games, its the parenting or lack there of. Or it is something that has happened to a child to make them act out in such a way, IMO.

  • Lexismom

    I agree with u !
    Whether this boy was molested , seen his mom in the act , or has seen it on tv … He learned this from somewhere and I think 14 years in juvie will make matters worse ! He needs help.

  • Athena

    Juvenile detention has the resources to give him the kind of therapy you folks are suggesting. The alternative is leaving him out to potentially victimize MORE little girls while getting this therapy. Does that honestly make sense to you?

    Juvenile incarceration is not like adult incarceration. It is far more focused on rehabilitation. It’s why juvenile detention came into existance – because, about 100 years ago, society realized that juvenile offenders have a greater chance at rehabilitation.

    What this kid clearly needs is a shot at rehabilitation WHILE being segregated from other potential victims. Juvenile incarceration will give him the best shot possible, providing him structure, discipline AND therapy. We can’t take the risk of hoping mom can keep him in line while he gets help. Incarceration is necessary. Forcible rape is serious shit.

  • http://www.myspace.com/553147094 Domino

    you’re right.. he’s broken, so he wouldn’t process the things he is being taught by the things around him properly, because he’s broken. something is obviously wrong with him, but it doesn’t mean he was raped or his parents made him watch them have sex. i mean i’m willing to bet those parents own a computer and barely know how to use it, so no parental controls are in place – so he watched porn and thought it might be fun .. tons of reasons. but like you said somethings wrong with him, and that’s why he doesn’t behave normally.

  • Lexismom

    I’m not saying he doesn’t need some kind of discipline …. I just think 14 years is extreme . I have read a lot of stories where grown men don’t get that long of a sentence

  • http://www.myspace.com/553147094 Domino

    porn. kids see porn on tv, in movies, the way girls dress so skanky now a days just emphasizing that’s all that women are good for.. but because he obviously has something wrong with him, this is how he handles it. he’s a sick fucker no doubt about that.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you that most juvenile detention centers are equiped to help this kid, I think it’s important to note that it’s not a guarantee everywhere. Some places are little better than mini hardcore prisons and offer little in the way of psychological help…but lots in the way of learning violence and hatred.
    I discussed possibly working with several juvenile halls in Indiana (a few years back). I turned them all down because the cases I would be managing would have had zero opportunity for rehabilitation and access to even basic education was in sad shape. Those tours really opened my eyes and I can no longer say that all of them are good options for kids.

  • http://www.myspace.com/553147094 Domino

    i think the way you’re all behaving is human nature. you’re all in denial. you can’t fathom the idea a little kid could be such a monster. so you’re looking for answers, suggesting the family raped him, suggesting he was taught this type of behavior by an abusive adult… when the horrific truth might possibly be he’s just a fucked up, sick individual who doesn’t have the ability to process the things in society he’s been exposed to in the correct way.

    one things for sure, he’s a sick little bastard who needs to do a lot of time behind bars and getting help before he’s unleashed back on the world.

  • http://www.myspace.com/553147094 Domino

    it’s going to do him a LOT of good. for one it’s going to teach the little shitstain CONSEQUENCE. something he obviously knows nothing about.

    although i don’t believe the family raped and abused him i do believe that their parenting may have been a bit lax. he needs to learn one way or another that these things are serious, and they’re wrong. he needs to learn he’s ruined another person’s life and in turn have his torn down (and because he’s in juvenile detention they’re going to help him rebuild.)

  • Lexismom

    You are right , I have a really hard time believing that someone is born a rapist , or a murderer . I am looking for answers as to why or how an 11 boy would rape a little girl !
    Why is it on here when a couple kids beat the shot out of an old man .. It’s the parents fault , but when a boy rapes a little girl he is just born a bad person ?
    There are a few stories on here where people say it’s the parenting or lack of parenting !

  • Lexismom

    Shit* ; damn auto text

  • Lexismom

    I get what u are saying. I just can’t understand how someone so young could do something this evil and not have an explanation of why ? I just don’t believe that kids are born fucked up , I think adults have a lot to do with fucking kids up.

  • http://www.myspace.com/553147094 Domino

    i don’t believe people are born bad either, i think in most situations when a kids this young parents have a lot to do with the kids problems, something wasn’t taught, but the severity of this crime also leads me to believe he might also have some faulty brain wiring. and that’s my denial lol, i’m thinking he has some mental issues rather than the parents raping him.

  • http://www.myspace.com/553147094 Domino

    my comment above didn’t include my denial, i think my entire thought is scattered all over this page, anyway i have some denial of my own, i favor lack of parenting, and his lack of feeling.. as psychotic – those too could be considered denial on my behalf, and i’m having a hard time myself thinking that he was a monster all on his own. i do believe he’s ultimately responsible for those actions and should suffer through them. especially if the parents aren’t doing their job disciplining.

  • Lexismom

    I don’t know about parents raping him either tho !
    Little story : when my son was in kindergarten (he is now 11) I picked him up from school like I always do and his teacher always complained everyday about what he had done , whether it was being noisy , hiding under desks , not listening in class ect . Anyhow , we were driving to the grocery store when out of nowhere he tells me that a kid in class kept putting his hands down my sons pants on recess ! I said did u tell ur teacher ? He said he did and she NEVER said a word to me about it !!! I turned the car around and drove back to school and just caught her as she was leaving . I asked her if she knew an she said yes , that she told the other kid if he did it again she was calling his parents ! I was PISSED and asked how she could look me in the face everyday complaining about my son being a pain in the ass and NOT mention that he was being molested by another kid in class !
    And then threaten the other kid by calling his parents if he ever did it again ?? What if it was happening to this kid at home ?
    I had a long talk with my son that night about it all !
    What if he never told me ? And thought it was ok to do that to other kids ?? I’m so glad he is open with me and feels like he can come to me with anything . He may have been a pain in the ass then , but she should have come to me an told me about it ! I still get mad thinkin’ about it to this day !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GWBV2FUY3OBYX3RNK6I44QSC7I Kwum

    damn right Domino! Our society has this pollyanna rose color glasses notion about the “innocence purity and sweetness of kids” maybe they should get away from the TV sets and see reality.. There are numerous cases which social workers can attest to wherein some kids are brought up with all the love and attention they can have yet are simply “bad seeds” raping setting fires even killing…. case in point? JEFF DAHMER.. he was adopted but brought up by an educated loving family and he was thrill killing and mutilating animals by aged 7 in the back yard

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GWBV2FUY3OBYX3RNK6I44QSC7I Kwum

    this kid has a real bright future..I’m sure he’ll go far.. ( in the justice system).. odds are he will be overpowered and raped by a larger kid in the facility and come out more angry more focused on committing sexual violence to someone else…

  • Lexismom

    I hear ya ! I really don’t even know what to think when a kid does something like this ! I have a hard time believing this came out of nowhere ! What else has he done ? Do kids really just start out raping and move their way up to more evil shit ?? I dunno what to think !
    I mean …. Say this kid was being sexually abused , it doesn’t excuse anything he has done , but would u feel sorry for him ?

  • Athena

    No, this is true. Unfortunately, the quality of these centers vary from state to state, jurisdiction to jurisdiction. And, dare I say that, perhaps blue states put a little more stock in the general concept of rehabilitation?

    I just happen to know that the Douglas Co. Detention Center in Roseburg, OR is a pretty revolutionary facility in terms of OR juvenile detention. A relatively new facility (built in 2001), the staff there has strived to develop a treatment-based program, and they’ve been so successful with it that the Youth Authority that regulates all juvenile detention centers is considering adopting elements of their program into state-wide mandates. If anyone has a shot at rehabing this kid, it’s the facility he’s currently housed in.

  • Anonymous

    I also believe that something had to happen to this boy to make him do this…it’s very sad….and I agree that if he is put away until he is 25 he will get out and be more angry and God knows what his actions will be…he needs to be under a mental evaluation and get to the bottom of why he’s doing this….

  • Anonymous

    I also believe that something had to happen to this boy to make him do this…it’s very sad….and I agree that if he is put away until he is 25 he will get out and be more angry and God knows what his actions will be…he needs to be under a mental evaluation and get to the bottom of why he’s doing this….

  • Anonymous

    I also believe that something had to happen to this boy to make him do this…it’s very sad….and I agree that if he is put away until he is 25 he will get out and be more angry and God knows what his actions will be…he needs to be under a mental evaluation and get to the bottom of why he’s doing this….

  • Anonymous

    I also believe that something had to happen to this boy to make him do this…it’s very sad….and I agree that if he is put away until he is 25 he will get out and be more angry and God knows what his actions will be…he needs to be under a mental evaluation and get to the bottom of why he’s doing this….

  • Athena

    I don’t understand why most are trying so damn hard to make excuses for this kid. No, a child does not have to be victimized by someone in order to be capable of doing this to another child and, even if they were, it doesn’t excuse their actions. If this boy was a mere 3 years older, I doubt any of you would be singing this tune. In fact, this site has featured such stories, and people are ready to sentence the kid as an adult and have him locked up for life. Do you really think things change that dramatically in three years?

    Prepubescent children masterbate and experiment. It’s quite common. Why is it so hard to believe a kid couldn’t figure out intercourse without someone else illustrating it for them? Newsflash: We are BORN to breed. That is our primary purpose as a living creature. The knowledge to know how to accomplish this comes to us naturally and, for some, it comes sooner than others.

    That said, if he has been victimized, that can be investigated and addressed during his rehabilitation, like any other offender.

  • Athena

    I don’t understand why most are trying so damn hard to make excuses for this kid. No, a child does not have to be victimized by someone in order to be capable of doing this to another child and, even if they were, it doesn’t excuse their actions. If this boy was a mere 3 years older, I doubt any of you would be singing this tune. In fact, this site has featured such stories, and people are ready to sentence the kid as an adult and have him locked up for life. Do you really think things change that dramatically in three years?

    Prepubescent children masterbate and experiment. It’s quite common. Why is it so hard to believe a kid couldn’t figure out intercourse without someone else illustrating it for them? Newsflash: We are BORN to breed. That is our primary purpose as a living creature. The knowledge to know how to accomplish this comes to us naturally and, for some, it comes sooner than others.

    That said, if he has been victimized, that can be investigated and addressed during his rehabilitation, like any other offender.

  • Athena

    I don’t understand why most are trying so damn hard to make excuses for this kid. No, a child does not have to be victimized by someone in order to be capable of doing this to another child and, even if they were, it doesn’t excuse their actions. If this boy was a mere 3 years older, I doubt any of you would be singing this tune. In fact, this site has featured such stories, and people are ready to sentence the kid as an adult and have him locked up for life. Do you really think things change that dramatically in three years?

    Prepubescent children masterbate and experiment. It’s quite common. Why is it so hard to believe a kid couldn’t figure out intercourse without someone else illustrating it for them? Newsflash: We are BORN to breed. That is our primary purpose as a living creature. The knowledge to know how to accomplish this comes to us naturally and, for some, it comes sooner than others.

    That said, if he has been victimized, that can be investigated and addressed during his rehabilitation, like any other offender.

  • Athena

    I don’t understand why most are trying so damn hard to make excuses for this kid. No, a child does not have to be victimized by someone in order to be capable of doing this to another child and, even if they were, it doesn’t excuse their actions. If this boy was a mere 3 years older, I doubt any of you would be singing this tune. In fact, this site has featured such stories, and people are ready to sentence the kid as an adult and have him locked up for life. Do you really think things change that dramatically in three years?

    Prepubescent children masterbate and experiment. It’s quite common. Why is it so hard to believe a kid couldn’t figure out intercourse without someone else illustrating it for them? Newsflash: We are BORN to breed. That is our primary purpose as a living creature. The knowledge to know how to accomplish this comes to us naturally and, for some, it comes sooner than others.

    That said, if he has been victimized, that can be investigated and addressed during his rehabilitation, like any other offender.

  • Anonymous

    I wish more places put that kind of effort into rehabing kids in trouble. Hopefully he will get some much needed help. And you’re probably right about the blue states…sad but true!!

  • melb1970

    I agree CONSEQUENCE is the one lesson that is either not being taught to our youth or falling on deaf ears.
    I always thought people were born with a moral compass the one thing that would make us different from other animals, but I am beginning to wonder- perhaps some of us are closer to apes than we realize.

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    Shit….try going hallowe’en costume shopping for a little girl. I swear that 85% of the costumes are WAAAAYYY too sexy for any little girl. It’s ridiculous and I fucking hate it! Why do little girls who want to be a witch have to be sexy? I don’t understand the parents that are OK with letting their kids wear that shit either. I make my daughters outfits from second hand clothing shops.

  • http://www.myspace.com/553147094 Domino

    i was blissfully unaware of wtf was going on with little girls until my brother had a baby. and OMFG. halloween shopping makes. me. sick. i can’t believe the outfits they’re suggesting little girls wear!

    but i thank god last year my niece wanted to be an apple tree. yes an apple tree. it took every ounce of creativity i had to make that happen, but i thank god i was hot gluing apples on to tissue paper rather than hot gluing her to a seat, not letting her leave the house in some trashy costume.

  • Lexismom

    I really think it’s more of a shock factor for me . I read this kinda stuff on here , see it on the news , and I am always shocked when children do this kinda thing.
    It’s not that I want to make excuses for them , or him , its just sad … For everyone involved.

  • Siobhan

    Jeffery Dahmer was not adopted, and was approximately 10 years old when he began to dissect road kill, before moving on to animal mutilation, and eventually murdering humans at age 18.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mary-Elizabeth-Bowman/1654036501 Mary Elizabeth Bowman

    Uh, Rocket Scientist? He is eleven fucking years old. GTA isn’t going to make him do something like that. The boy had to have seen this somewhere.

  • Siobhan

    I agree with you for the most part, although I haven’t read enough about the case to completely point the finger of culpability toward his parents, yet.
    It could be lax parenting, but as you stated, his lack of guilt, fear, and empathy for his victim enabling him to continue the rape all indicate that something is very wrong with him.
    It sounds like a classic example of anti-social personality disorder, or as it was formerly known as sociopathic personality disorder.
    There is a great deal of controversy as to whether sociopaths are born the way the are, or made by developmental environs, or even by significant frontal lobe brain injuries.
    Regardless of how they come into being, they have no conscience, no empathy, and do not feel fear -no flight or fight responses, that most of us are equipped with to interact within society. This is not a mental illness, but is classified as a personality disorder, and as such it cannot be treated, changed or cured.
    They feel pain and sadness only as it pertains to themselves, and are incapable of any feelings of empathy towards others.
    They can, however, learn the consequences of their actions, when they are caught and punished, but if they choose to continue in criminal acts, they quickly learn ways to escape detection of their crimes.
    Most sociopaths realize early on that they are different, and learn to adopt a “mask” of normality, hiding their true selves from family and friends, and maintaining the appearance of respectability to society in general.
    Not all sociopaths are criminals, and many live their entire lives without breaking any laws, but they are always dangerous to a certain degree, as they are only out for number one, and have no real concern for others well being whatsoever.

  • Siobhan

    I agree with you for the most part, although I haven’t read enough about the case to completely point the finger of culpability toward his parents, yet.
    It could be lax parenting, but as you stated, his lack of guilt, fear, and empathy for his victim enabling him to continue the rape all indicate that something is very wrong with him.
    It sounds like a classic example of anti-social personality disorder, or as it was formerly known as sociopathic personality disorder.
    There is a great deal of controversy as to whether sociopaths are born the way the are, or made by developmental environs, or even by significant frontal lobe brain injuries.
    Regardless of how they come into being, they have no conscience, no empathy, and do not feel fear -no flight or fight responses, that most of us are equipped with to interact within society. This is not a mental illness, but is classified as a personality disorder, and as such it cannot be treated, changed or cured.
    They feel pain and sadness only as it pertains to themselves, and are incapable of any feelings of empathy towards others.
    They can, however, learn the consequences of their actions, when they are caught and punished, but if they choose to continue in criminal acts, they quickly learn ways to escape detection of their crimes.
    Most sociopaths realize early on that they are different, and learn to adopt a “mask” of normality, hiding their true selves from family and friends, and maintaining the appearance of respectability to society in general.
    Not all sociopaths are criminals, and many live their entire lives without breaking any laws, but they are always dangerous to a certain degree, as they are only out for number one, and have no real concern for others well being whatsoever.

  • http://www.allserialkillers.com/btk_killer_-_btk_serial_killer.htm Mad Beast

    Sounds like husband material to me.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, well I know I’m gonna get blasted out of here for this one but…what happened to plain curiosity? Does it have to be that the kid is a monster? Was born a monster? Can’t be rehabilitated? Maybe he doesn’t need rehab or jail or juvie. Maybe what he needs is a lesson in right from wrong and some therapy to cope with a childhood mistake. When I was a child there was no internet, no racy tv (we had 2-3 channels on a black and white tv), absolutely no violent video games like GTA but we knew about sex stuff and we were curious. I remember our little group of kids hanging out under a tree (our clubhouse) and the boys asking the girls to suck thier PP’s. If a girl did suck a PP then the boy would reciprocate and touch the girl. Show me yours, I’ll show you mine. We didn’t grow up as pedophiles and rapists. We weren’t born bad seeds. It was a natural curiosity then and it still exists.
    Maybe this kid is being or has been abused and that is why he did what he did. Then some course of action needs to be taken. However, maybe he and his friends were discussing sex as they know it and he was curious. Hell, maybe the girl was curious too and it was discussed between the two and decided that they would try it.
    I’m not saying it is right, I’m just saying that until more is known, I’m not going to judge.

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    I agree with you that this boy didn’t need to have been abused or exposed to anything to necessarily become a young rapist. He does however deserve punishment. This is not just a simple mistake. Even if he wasn’t aware that what he was doing was wrong, for him to not be treated the same as an adult rapist is to just victimize the girl again. She is the more important of the two children in this case. Her rights and feelings need to be more important than his. Simple.

  • Guest

    I think it will make things worse. He needs some serious counseling / psychiatric care .

  • http://www.facebook.com/alexuscrockett Alexus Quade Crockett

    Moron – there is never even ONE rape or even implied rape scene or reference in Grand Theft Auto Vice City, San Andreas, IV, Liberty City Stories, Lost & the Damned, Ballad of Gay Tony, or Vice City Stories. As far as I know, neither of the others do also.(I have played and am an avid fan of these games. I have literally played all the way through 8 titles out of the 11 GTA in the series.)

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    I think it was more of a reference to the glorifying of criminal behaviour in general that Sug was alluding to. Grand Theft Auto does do that and that is why it isn’t recommended for children. As for Sug being a moron?…..Haha, I doubt that is the case. Then again, you are the one who took her words literally. o.O

  • Anonymous

    No shit, sherlock. I didn’t say it did. So don’t call me a moron. If you’re too much of a retarded assbiscuit to realize that the option to beat up a hooker and steal her money (FOR EXAMPLE) in GTA after fucking her might serve as inspiration for some people, then you have NO business interacting with me whatsoever. In fact, however, I was using GTA as a METAPHOR. Sorry that was lost on you. I’m not even a pro-censorship person in the least, but it’s quite well proven that kids who watch a shitload of violent movies (etc), especially without strong parental guidance, are more likely to act out what they see as it becomes normalized and naturalized for them. It’s really not that complicated, but you can go to college and learn about it if you can’t quite grasp it on your own. . .same goes for the notion of METAPHOR. But thanks for playing.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, okay, well, then, maybe he saw his dad rape his mom. I certainly didn’t rule out that possibility, now did I? Thansk for sarcasm–but I really don’t give a fuck what you think. Perhaps you have assumed I’m into book-banning or video-game banning or some such shit, but I’m not. I simply pointed out the obvious, yet it wasn’t obvious enough for you. Yeah, he could be “seeing” violent rapes FACE TO FACE in his house every day. Or not. It doesn’t take “rocket science” knowledge to know that he could have watched any number of violent movies (ETC) and found his inspiration there (again, GTA was just a damn metaphor). Especially if he doesn’t have good adult guidance. Nope, doesn’t take rocket science knowledge. Just takees basic reading knowledge. Go read some studies if you want to.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t “blame” video games any more than I “blamed” Metallica nor any other pop culture influence. I simply pointed out a fact: people glean inspiration from a variety of sources.

  • Anonymous

    That’s not quite what I said. What’s with the simplistic nature of some posts on this thread? Of COURSE different people respond differently to different stimuli. Is everyone who reads about crime (HEY!! LIKE EVERYONE ON THIS SITE!!) going to go kill, rape, murder, and molest? No. Obviously not. As far as being exposed to “society” goes, violent/predatory behavior by makes toward females falls across a WIDE and long continuum of behaviors. Rape is an extreme behavior on a continuum.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I see from your Facebook you graduated from high school in 2010, you are married, and your favorite quotations are “A True Christian is not measured by his capacity to complete things, but rather by his capacity to Love.” and “To be almost saved is to be totally lost.” That’s all truly poignant. Thanks for the laughs!

  • Athena

    Um, no, he didn’t have to see this ANYWHERE. As I stated, we are put on this planet to BREED. Short of the survival instinct, the instict to fuck is the second strongest. He didn’t have to see this anywhere in order to figure out how to pull this off.

  • Athena

    LMAO. Wait… 2010, and already married? No wonder the divorce rate is over 50%. Stupid fucks think they know someone else well enough to decide they want to spend the rest of their life with them… before they even know themselves.

    I like that you asked him to read some studies. If he was of that tendency, he’d know that marriages involving people younger than 25 have a 95% divorce rate. :P

  • Anonymous

    dude you are an asshole – no wait – i cant call you that cuz they have a function!!!!lmao – you are a fucking idiot – what makes you think that you can come on here and be a fuckstain like that?unlike you, sug has a brain and USES it to contribute here.if you cant think of anything better to say about this whole fucking story then fucking leave.the point here that seems to be lost on your dumb ass is – a child was RAPED – by ANOTHER CHILD.if you really think that games like your precious “GTA” have NOTHING to do with the rising level of violence in our youth, then you are even fucking more stupid than your post made you sound. sug – kudos to your reply to this MORON – lol – maybe he will think twice before jumping into the deep end here at the demon!!!! :D btw – this story breaks my heart and i have no idea what made this kid do it – all i care about is that these children heal……*spits in the direction of alexus (isnt that a girls name????)* alexus – sleep on some encyclopedias or something hey?you gotta get smart somefuckinghow – fuck off and have a GREAT day!!!!

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    There is absolutely no evidence that violent video games makes kids violent. In fact, studies have shown violent media in general has no effect on the people who watch it. The only thing that is known is that violent people are attracted to violent media.

    Lastly, since violence in video games and movies are at such a high while crime rates are at the lowest they have been in the last decade, one could argue that violent media actually curtails violent actions.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, well, his Fave Quotation does note that Jesus doesn’t care about whether or not people “Complete” things. Including marriages, I guess. . . however, Jesus is ALL ABOUT people finishing every last game related to Grand Theft Auto. Jesus loves those kinds of shoot ‘em, rob ‘em games, especially ones where ya get to fuck hookers and/or beat them and rob them. LOL!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, well, his Fave Quotation does note that Jesus doesn’t care about whether or not people “Complete” things. Including marriages, I guess. . . however, Jesus is ALL ABOUT people finishing every last game related to Grand Theft Auto. Jesus loves those kinds of shoot ‘em, rob ‘em games, especially ones where ya get to fuck hookers and/or beat them and rob them. LOL!

  • KBunnie

    Oh my goodness…speechless

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7ZMBDQHQW4KEK6KZKKKWFGGCKU Alexus

    Video games make no difference on Christian character. It’s like a highly complicated game of Clue. I’m not married, it was an inside joke – thanks for your unintelligent response and complete stalking-type attacks on my personal character.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7ZMBDQHQW4KEK6KZKKKWFGGCKU Alexus

     It was an inside joke, so what if I had been married upon graduating? How do you know if it wasn’t my long-time sweetheart?

  • pikeman

    She’s probably not going to answer you.

    Sugarglider used to be the number one commenter on here. Then, suddenly, there were no more posts from sg.:-(

    Plus, it was six months ago. Time to get over it, don’t you think?

    Personally, I always liked her despite what you said.

  • Parrot Toes

     I miss sug, but hopefully she will be back.  She does that, leaves for a while, then comes back…….

  • pikeman

    Well. I noticed one person liked each of our comments. Maybe it’s Sugarglider lurking in the shadows.

  • Count Rackula

    Pike, I can’t respond to you, but it was me who liked the comments. Mainly because I was part of this old crew. Vajazzling and panty raiding didn’t just come from nowhere, ya know? I miss Sug. 

  • Count Rackula

    Pike, I can’t respond to you, but it was me who liked the comments. Mainly because I was part of this old crew. Vajazzling and panty raiding didn’t just come from nowhere, ya know? I miss Sug. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YKEKFK7ONN54JP7PAGW4VTKRRE robert martinez

    he is too young to go to jail for something like this he is 11 years old they were maybe playing house or doctor come on now 11 years old in jail get real he is a child

  • Anonymous

    Are you still tarding around on here? LMAO. P.S. Most of your post is like one big word salad.

  • Anonymous

    Y’all are so sweet. It wasn’t me. I do leave for awhile and then come back. This is true.

  • Anonymous

    Agree, there’s no correlation either way, it’s true. What violent video games, violent porn, etc., can do is inspire people who are a bit busted in the head to act out on some of that bustedness. (And, if the people in question are kids, they do need some adult help in figuring out the ins and outs of what’s okay in real life and what’s okay in a game.) 

    As for the rest of us, we can just sit back and enjoy our violent video games, porn, etc. I know I do. =)

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, it would be good to get back to the story. This derailment into the ins and outs of GTA is beside the point. And I don’t give a damn about GTA or any other media for that matter. And, at any rate, as I’ve said multiple times on this thread, yes, the problem is lack of adult guidance.

    As far as evidence that some fucked up assholes derive inspiration from violent  media, there’s certainly been loads of testimony to that effect.

    But I don’t even care about any of that. I care about this story. And I was responding directly to the comment that he had to have learned it by, basically, seeing a rape happen in front of him. And my response was, no, not really. He could have gotten ideas about such things from any variety of sources (GTA was a rather-tongue-in-cheek example…sorry for not using my SARCASM FONT). Or, of course, he could have learned it from nowhere. I should think that kinda goes without saying.

  • AliceinChainsman =]

    luv it