Father Receives Video Of Dead Daughter Taken By Firefighter Who Responded To Her Fatal Crash

This totally reminds me of what happened with Porsche Girl (Nikki Catsouras). Except that maybe this young one wasn’t doing cocaine. (Maybe.)

That’s just ridiculous. There is no reason this firefighter should have videotaped such a thing unless he himself is some kind of sicko. Fire the bastard and sue the shit out of him.

I think it is unethical, but shouldn’t be illegal. If you feel that the family has a right to sue, then I am curious as to what you think about street journalism or field reporters who actually profit from the images of dead people they capture. Should they be sued by victim’s families as well?

I know that here we have had many and I mean many young people die as a result of careless driving. High speed, texting, you name it. I think a lot of agencies are going for the scare tactic. I am all for it. Obviously nothing else is getting thier attention. I have no idea why this firefighter did what he did but I do know that some agencies are doing this as a way to bring reality to light. If it saves just one life I would hope that mom and dad could find some peace. Sometimes it is all in how you look at something. Firefighters are the first to witness all kinds of horrors I am definately not going to blast them for something without knowing to whole story.

All I can say is that what you put out you get back. If you take a pictures of a person being dead, be prepared to be okay when someone does this to you or a relative. I try not to do anything that I couldn’t accept being done to me. Just kind of a rule in life that I was taught and that I teach my children. Like the ole saying “do on to others as you’d have done on to you”.

If it’s not illegal for first responders to take photos or video (for their personal use, not as part of an investigation obviously), then it should be. And any cop, paramedic, or firefighter who violates that policy should be terminated immediately, not only for the sheer unprofessionalism and disrespect, but because he or she may have some psychological issues as well.

I think it’s very sad for the family and I think it was unprofessional of the firefighter that originally recorded the video, BUT I think the morbid curiosity is just human nature. The firefighter probably sees a lot of tragedy in his job. Then, he goes out with his buddies and conversations come up. He most likely felt like he wanted something to show to go with his stories. It’s not necessarily to be a sicko, but because most people are so protected from death that it’s hard for us to fathom what he is actually talking about.

I admit that I have on many occasions seen videos/photos. At times, I have seeked them out, at others, stumbled across them for whatever reason. I feel for the families of the people featured, but many of the photos/videos can be very effective learning tools, be it for drivers education tools, suicide prevention, what drugs will do to a person, etc. I also think that human curiosity to something that we are not accustomed to seeing that often, death, especially violent death, is a natural thing. Many people just don’t have the desire to see that side of life, others do. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.

First thing I thought of too. Those photos are still on the web.

It was GROSSLY unprofessional of the firefighter to make this video. Really, he shouldn’t be playing around with his personal cell phone on the taxpayer’s dime at all. But too many people seem to have no common sense, no sense of decency, and no limit to their rudeness when it comes to using cell phones. I absolutely hate those fucking things and wish they’d never been invented.

I agree that it was. I’m just saying that I also understand the thinking behind it.

If the video was taken to be used in a crash-prevention video, that would be one thing. But I doubt they film their official videos on a cell phone….

Anyone has the right to sue anyone for any reason. It is whether it is upheld or thrown out that matters. Anymore, with everyone having a camera ready at any moment these types of things are going to be more and more common. Either there is something wrong with it or not. I guess maybe it needs to be established.

Me too.

Agreed, completely.
Years ago, my FD/EMS would film crash and response scenes for training purposes only, not just for training new recruits, but also in order to critique our responses in order to improve our response timing, critical care assessment, and field treatments.
To film any crash or fire scene for one’s personal pleasures and network sharing is gross misconduct, unethical, and very appalling, IMO.

Curiosity kills the cat today! I had never seen that before! That is terrible. Her poor family!

Me too!

I’m sorry, but, for the most part, you don’t have the right to not be offended, nor should you. Criminal charges? Seriously?

Assuming whoever sent this video to the girl’s family was upfront about the content, the family looked at it willingly. No one put a gun to their head. So, in that respect, they’re responsible for any trauma they’ve dealt with as a result.

Inconsiderate for the video to be taken? Yeah. But not criminal… nor should it be.

I know that it isn’t illegal, but because it is so unethical, and carries with it the ability to cause severe grief and/or emotional trauma, it should be. It’s unfortunate but our society has become such a crude and unrefined people that laws need to be put in place to protect innocent victims from the idiots of society.

At minimum the firefighter who took the video ought to be fired, as his position involved a level of trust that he obviously violated.

Must have been some dorky rookie fireman because most experienced first responders called to the scene commonly witness all kinds of stomach churning visions of human roadkill… bloody dismemberment’s/severed heads etc…. sadly commonplace .
Shit like this is though all too common in this age of “whip out your cell and post on youtube etc” mentality..
Maybe next time the loser is called into a burning fire and struggling to make it out hopefully there will be some bystanders on the sidewalk whipping out their cells…
*efg*

Oh, ouch. I never saw that before. Poor kid. As stupid as she was to steal her pop’s Porsche and drive it like an idiot, no one deserves to die in such a horrific manner.

I honestly believe that we are all too guarded from death anymore and that is why people find this behaviour as shocking.

I don’t know… so many of the cell phones today are computers in thier on right. I get a headache just touching my daughters phone… and I am very glad I don’t pay her cell bill any more! I also thought of another possibility… one that is quite common here. We have quite a few places that are common places that fatal wrecks occur, to get the speed reduced or to get signs posted to be aware of deep curves or hidden drives it takes diligence on the part of someone to try to change things. It takes shock value too. Or to get a light put in. It hit me on the way to school as I realized I was thankful they finally put a light in at this one crossing. Strange how things just pop in my head.

I had assumed with changing technology and constant changes in laws (this thought comes from the business that I am in) that photography and video were part of the documentation of any and all ‘accidents’.

I look and think of first responders as support and protectors. When they act out of our comfort zone and actually victimize the victims and grievers it feels criminal. It should be criminal. What is the point of being a first responder or to protect life –if you dont hold ethics beyond that? It seems sensless and like a waste of time.

It’s very unfortunate that the parents were made aware of the video, let alone seeing it. I don’t think there should be a criminal punishment for it. In the case of Nikki Catsouras, the girls photographs were being posted on every gore site known to man + sent to the actual family members to harass them. This is a different story all together. The man didn’t intend to have the parents view it and I’m sure he feels terrible knowing they have. Sense-able reason for recording or not, I don’t think it was done in a malicious manner. He is a fire-fighter so my mind doesn’t rear towards him doing it out of some sick sadistic way. But that’s just my opinion.

we are already there…if someone dislikes or even disagrees with any of the myriads of social stances now days, its called spreading hate or ignorance.

Although I understand the intent, those death photos are severely creepy!

Had I been in this family, there’s nothing in this world that could’ve gotten me to watch that video. But this firefighter is an insensitive asshole and at the very least should be made to publicly apologize to the family and the fire department he works for.

Ha ha, hypocrites, you frequent a site for the curiousity of Horror, and you act all surprised when someone who actual see’s it makes a video.

Shut up and go away. If it offends you, dont watch it

Indeed.

I remember the very first time I met a very good friend of mine (who is now deceased himself). He was a young soldier who had just come back from his second tour in Iraq and had moved in with his sister who lived next door to us. He quickly befriended us one evening. A very short period into our getting to know one another, he learned that I was a horror fan (evident from a quick glance around my living room). He said, “Hey, you want to see some pictures of dead people?” “Sure,” I responded. He ran home and brought back his laptop which contained dozens of images of corpses he had encountered while on patrol.

This guy wasn’t a fucked up individual. In fact, he was one of the most loving, upbeat people I will ever meet. He simply had front row access to a world that so very few of us see, and he took the images to share with people back home the cruel, raw nature of war, and to satisfy some curiosity as well, I’m sure.

This video making it back to the family is probably the last thing this firefighter wanted or intended. Honestly, who ever sent it to the family is the one who should feel fucked up and responsible for their suffering. Honestly, I kind of hope this firefighter remains unknown. I don’t believe this is anything he should lose his job over.

My Dad, a former police chief of 10 years, said that if any of his police officers did this, it would be grounds for firing and a possible legal issue in the state of Florida. Now that’s Florida, the most fucked up state around. Don’t know if it’s the same in Georgia but I did try googling that “law” and couldn’t find it so I am under the impression it’s a firefighter/paramedic/cop rule.

I have some photos of my son in his casket. I think it’s quite normal.

Yep sure doooo…. Got some good shots of my favorite gramps in his best attire sleeping peacefully.

and an older baby sister.

…but they’re not arrested for it. We’re not there YET.

I disagree. You know who deserves to die in such a horrific manner? Girls who steal their pop’s Porche and drive it like an idiot. That’s who deserves it. Stop rationalizing and justifying other people’s stupid behavior. Actions have consequences you fucking douchebag.

Este might’ve been abrasive (too abrasive) about it, but s/he is essentially right. Catsouras was high on cocaine and endangered the lives of -many- more when she did what she did (and in fact, she probably could’ve killed the guy in the other car that she clipped before the Porsche spun out of control). Don’t care that she was a “teenager” or a CHYULD or whatever anyone would like to’ve labelled her as. She was behaving stupidly, high on cocaine and “youth” when she got herself killed, and she is only lucky that she didn’t kill anyone else in the process.

Oh, hi! Aren’t you a friendly and fiesty little guy?

I don’t usually bother responding to webtards, but in your case, I’ll make an exception. She was little more than a kid. Stupid, yes. Lucky she didn’t take out others during her rampage? Yes. But to say she DESERVED it? That’s pretty harsh. Jeffrey Dahmer deserved to have his anus raped by a broom handle til he died. Actions have consequences, sure, but this was a sad end to a young life.

So hey! Go fuck yourself and have a pleasant day!

I tried to be mature, anyway. LOL! Then I let the little bastard get me all riled up. Ah well. Moving along…

I must have misread something, I thought the story about the porsche girl said that her dad found out she had done cocaine, not that she was high at the time (though if that’s the case, it does partially explain her crazy driving…being an inexperienced teenage driver explains the rest). I still don’t think she DESERVED to have her head smashed open like a gourd and her brains splattered everywhere. She didn’t kill anyone, thank goodness, and I am NOT saying her actions were right in any way. I’m just saying, she was a kid. Impulsive, stupid, and probably high on drugs…but the story still makes me sad for her family. She snuffed herself out in the worst way. It’s just a sucky story all around.

Yeah and that 2 year old didn’t deserve to get raped and an STD and that baby didn’t deserve to have its testicles eaten off, Nicki had 18 CHARMED years on this earth, living like a lil princess, driving expensive cars, having fun, doing drugs like cocaine the party drug. I HAVE ZERO SYMPATHY for her , the way she died, and the photos being on the net! EVERYBODY DIES. She took her advantage in life and by her OWM ACTIONS died that way! I’ll save my sympathy/empathy for these poor children that NEVER had the chance to be a princess or prince!!! The only thing that would have made her story better was if she had gotten the car at her sweet sixteen on MTV!!!!! (evil thought I know)

Calm down, it is NOT a snuff film, and HE DID NOT KILL THE GIRL She was already dead. Suppose ye this… suppose it was a staged accident but really a murder and these photos became valuable evidence for the family that would otherwise not have access at all to these photos because of YOUR law. I am so tired of people ALAWYS TRYING TO CHANGE THE LAW when somebody dies. Criminals don’t folliow the law! What ends up happening is law abiding citizens LOOSE MORE FREEDOM, and people keep dying because criminals do not follow the law.

You don’t know if he was showing the pics in a DIS-RESPECTFUL manner! He could have been showing them and saying BE CAREFUL driving is DANGEROUS, look what happened to this driver. People automatically assume it is being spread for laughter and entertainment. What about the chain email of the defaced smart car driver warning people not to text and driver I don’t think those emails were meant to be disrespectful or entertaining, but educational, teens need to see it maybe they will drive safer. (it reminds me to drive safer!!!)

Oh yeah, then why can’t I find one single photo of Dale Reinhardt’s dead body on the internet, or Selena’s autopsy photo? Once it is in the news it can’t be purged, the 1st photos I ever saw of that crash were from the news just the car itself was pretty disturbing and the parents/family could be traumatized by the news photos, then at the morgue the parents are going to see her mangled body. at the morgue. The story is already public and can’t be purged.. Are you going to turn the negative into another negative and turn the socirty into a police state, or are you going to turn it around and use the photos to educate others about the dangers of drug abuse and reckless driving?

First of all, it would help in your searches to use the correct name, Dale Earnhardt, and secondly, you will find no LE or ME photos taken of him due to the Earnhardt Family Protection Act, which now keeps Florida’s medical examination autopsy photographs, video and audio recordings exempt from public inspection without the expressed permission from applicable next of kin.

While we’re speaking in hypotheticals, suppose someone had died in a fire because this asshole was playing around making movies of dead girls instead of doing his job? Even setting aside the tasteless subject matter, a fireman shouldn’t be making amateur movies of A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G while he’s on the clock. He has a job he’s supposed to be doing, and that job is not playing journalist with his cell phone. I realize that it’s hard for some members of the current generation to understand, but life is not a big reality show for your entertainment. Sometimes you need to turn your fucking cell phones off and take care of business.

So, no, I don’t think what he did was or should be illegal. But he should certainly be fired.

i couldn’t agree more.

Yes, your father is right, if this had occurred in FL, there would almost certainly be legal repercussions.
In 2001, SB 1356 was passed, which made releasing autopsy photographs a third-degree felony. This is also called, “the Earnhardt Family Protection Act”, and the bill contained a clause that made it retroactive to include Dale Earnhardt’s autopsy information and photos as protected under the new law.
Prior to this, FL’s “Sunshine Laws”, allowed all information/reports/photos of autopsies to be publicly accessed; now, permission from surviving next of kin is required before public access is allowed.

There was more then 1..He just took the fall and they made sure he was dead, before he could name names..JFK was murdered, but not by Oswald, he was just a patsy who took the fall, but ruby shot Oswald so He wouldn’t name names..Its always been a Conspiracy theory, but its 1 that i believe..from the vice president LBJ on down and its the same reason Robert Kennedy was killed and the reason Ted Kennedy backed out when he decided to run a few years before he died, cause he got a call telling him to back off or die like his brothers did..

There was more then 1..He just took the fall and they made sure he was dead, before he could name names..JFK was murdered, but not by Oswald, he was just a patsy who took the fall, but ruby shot Oswald so He wouldn’t name names..Its always been a Conspiracy theory, but its 1 that i believe..from the vice president LBJ on down and its the same reason Robert Kennedy was killed and the reason Ted Kennedy backed out when he decided to run a few years before he died, cause he got a call telling him to back off or die like his brothers did..