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Las Vegas, NV – An 11-year-old boy who already has one felony charge, now has a couple more after him and a 12-year-old accomplice used a BB gun to rob a couple of Las Vegas businesses. Police say you can see surveillance video of the boy, whose head barely peaks over the top of the counter, brandishing the toy gun at a donut shop employee while demanding cash. The clerk is still shaken up about the incident thinking the gun was real and that her life was in danger. The very next day, the two boys pulled the same stunt at a Subway across the street, but this time the 11-year-old held the gun to an employee’s head. The younger boy’s prior felony charge helped police in identifying the two kids and both were arrested, charged with two counts of robbery with a deadly weapon along with conspiracy charges. The younger boy will also be charged with two counts of burglary with a deadly weapon. They are in a juvenile detention facility and will not be charged as adults. The mother of the younger boy was interviewed and blamed her son’s actions on the crowd he was running with. She also added that she would “be beating his ass right now if he was at home.” Any bets on how long before we see these two boys again?

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  • PaperBag

    Thats just really sad, I hope those boys get the help they need before they turn into real monster when their older…

  • hawaiian.cutie.

    um..wow… all i can say is wow

  • hawaiian.cutie.

    um..wow… all i can say is wow

  • Anonymous

    “She would be beating on his ass if he were home”… yeah right! He wouldn’t be in this predicament if SHE WOULD’VE BEATEN ON HIS ASS before. I bet you the kid still plays with action figures when he can’t go out…

    I am amazed at all the parents that let their children be out after 10pm. In my town there’s teenagers at 3am running around, boys AND girls. And then they wonder why someone raped their daughter & who ran their boy & not know who did it. It’s called YOU LIVE IN MY HOUSE YOUR ASS BETTER BE HERE BEFORE THE CLOCK STRIKES 10pm.

    I couldn’t go out during school days & I was supposed to be in my house by 9:30pm on weekends. In the summer they let me stay up until 10pm & if I was lucky I’d get called back in at 10:30pm. If they don’t have a vehicle & they don’t pay rent in my house then it’s MY call when your ass is home.

    Not to mention that wether my mom liked them or not she knew who all my friends were & where they lived.

  • Anonymous

    “The mother of the younger boy was interviewed and blamed her son’s actions on the crowd he was running with.”
    Then stop him running with that crowd. Also don’t be blinded to the fact even though he has half of your DNA that he isn’t the catalyst in making the crowd a bad one. (general comment, not specific to this case)

    “She also added that she would “be beating his ass right now if he was at home.” ”
    This approach seems to have had a positive effect on him so far.

    “Any bets on how long before we see these two boys again?”
    I wouldn’t make a bet on something where the return would be so low.

  • Anonymous

    Slight spelling point that made me giggle a bit.
    The word wether is defined as a castrated ram.
    The correct spelling on this occasion is whether.
    This completely changes the whole meaning of the sentence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/somuchitmakesmesick Dominique Bonadia

    OF COURSE she would blame it on the “crowd” and not her parenting or lack there of. at this age it’s nothing but the parents fault.

  • Anonymous

    She also added that she would “be beating his ass right now if he was at home.”

    wow, nice comment there, Mom. really makes you look like the ideal parent.

  • Anonymous

    My mother was the same way. She always knew where we were and who we were with. Whether or not she liked the people. All this before the days of cellphones and GPS tracking too. It’s called trust and I suppose our moms did something right in instilling those values in us. This ass beating mother, needs to check in to the real world and realize if you don’t pay attention to what your kids are doing, shit like this is bound to happen.

  • http://justiceforcaylee.synthasite.com/ shyloh

    In my opinion these two boy need to be charged as an adult. They rob, they use guns, fake or not. What will they be doing when they get out. YEA! Right back to robbing and maybe come across a real gun. Then they go back to jail or are killed. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    That kid needs taken away from his idiotic incompetent mother. If she were any kind of mom and really thinks its the crowd he ran with she’d stop him from running with that crowd. Lazy ass don’t wanna admit she’s not much of a mother so she blames the friends. Hope they get him away from her and into a home where he MIGHT have some hope of growing up into a good person rather than being someone that will spend their whole life in and out of prisons, or worse dead by age 14 when he pulls that BB gun on someone who will decide enough is enough and pull a REAL gun. Sad his mother is too blind/don’t care to see that her lazy parenting is raising just another statistic.

  • Anonymous

    I’m gonna put my money on her not caring

  • Athena

    Actually, statistics show that kids dealt with in the juvenile system offend later and less often than those charged in adult court. Those charged in adult court also tend to spend LESS time behind bars. So, charging them as adults would likely be counter-productive.

    Also, how hypocritical that, when kids are being good, we treat them like children, but when they fuck up, we treat them like adults? They’re children. If they’re not capable enough to drive or vote, they’re not capable enough to be dealing with an adult justice system. We can’t have it both ways.

  • Athena

    Not to defend this mother… but have any of you been responsible for a child who has fallen into the wrong crowd? I’m guessing no, because, if you had, you’d know it’s not so easy as just stopping them from hanging out with those kids. I mean, what can you do? Especially if you’re a single mother, you have to leave sometime. You can’t lock the kid in a closet while you’re gone. You can’t disallow a child from ever leaving the house. And if these bad kids happen to be neighborhood kids, sometimes your only option is to move, and not everyone has those resources.

    Now, this mom is probably not nearly as attentive as she should be. But it’s entirely possible that she’s a decent person and her kid fell in with the wrong crowd, at which point shit spun out of control. There really should be more resources for parents in this situation. It’s easy to sit here and judge the fuck out of the mother after the fact, but when a situation gets this bad, it becomes everyone’s problem. So we should probably be establishing more programs to help parents who are in over their head.

  • crazymama

    I have been a single mom, with a daughter going in the wrong direction, doing drugs, dealing them, not coming home at night… one word did the trick:EMBARRASSMENT. I followed her, stopped to visit with her “friends” took a day off work every so often to follow her through school, and made sure to address her friends if they happened to be school that day. Before long nobody wanted to be near her because her mom is “crazy” Just over a year later, there was a shooting at the hang out spot and one of her friends was killed. No futher action needed. On that note, why do people feel the need to argue EVERYTHING?

  • melb1970

    As a single mom speaking out-
    I was blessed with a daughter who positively cringes at the idea of being corrected in anyway. The down side to that is of course, she is unable to take correction as any thing other than an insult or an attack on her character. Lucky for me she stays on the straight and narrow because she hates to get her shit jumped. I can only thing of one instance where I had to get really ugly with her and that was when I found out she had refused to do her damn AP English homework and was in danger of not graduating. We had a preaching at the principles office (she,me, principle and graduation coach). the homework got done and she graduated with honors.
    It is very easy to become overwhelmed with the details of life- bill paying, two jobs, groceries, laundry, house cleaning- ya get my drift and assume the big stuff is being taken care of-
    like the kid is going to school ( you assume) like the kid is not out robbing someone ( you assume) like the kid is doing their homework (like I assumed)
    This lady isn’t gonna get her kid on track on her own- he’s too young and already a shit head.
    If he was mine, his ass would be in daycare after this stunt with the five year olds coloring Christmas cards for the old folks home .
    These kids are in 6th grade at the most- something is bad bad wrong here.

  • MyMomSaysImSpecial

    See this is why I kept my kids chained up in the cellar…..

    (seriously just kidding there, I only locked then up once from age 12 to 18)

  • http://justiceforcaylee.synthasite.com/ shyloh

    And guns are for adults not children. that’s the problem, we slap the on the hands and they continue to get by with this sort of thing. We are talking ROBBERY and sticking guns in others faces, threatening their lives. It isn’t a game. Look what happened. If parents would take the time to teach their children WELL then this wouldn’t happen. It isn’t like it’s their FIRST RODEO!!! If they want to act like big boys then they need to play by the big boy rules. That’s just my opinion. Being an advocate for all the victims. Young and old. We need to enforce the laws not create new ones. I understand what you are saying. I just don’t agree. Thank you.

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    “we slap them on the hands and they continue to get by with this sort of thing”

    We don’t even slap our kids on the hands any more (or, we’re not supposed to). The preferred punishment for everything is a time out now. Maybe though, the parents of these kids should have gotten the time out (18 years worth). Maybe then the kids would have been raised by someone who would have taught them how to be civilized and responsible members of society.

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    See, that is me. I have so far been fortunate with my children but I have always been very blunt about what I would do. I’ve always told them that if they got into drugs, I would have their asses in rehab so fast, they wouldn’t have realized what happened. Steal? Suffer the consequences. I tell them that if I got a phone call from the police that they were in jail, I wouldn’t be getting them out.

    My oldest son, who is now 17, got involved with the wrong crowd a few years ago. These boys had zero respect for their parents or anyone else. They stole some cinnamon buns from the mall near me and stuck my son with the loot and ran. My son, in shock, ran as well after standing with the booty wondering what to do. I got a call from the mall security. He was fortunate that the seller wasn’t interested in pressing charges and he only received a 1 year ban from the mall (which was a big deal to my son, it is after all West Edmonton Mall). He didn’t though want to give his so-called friends up, so I did. It turned out that both of those boys had decent size records there. So, the next day, I called both boys’ mothers and let them in on what happened and that they need to take action on their kids. I also made sure I let them know how stupid they were as parents since they were claiming their kids’ were angels or that they were at their wits end with them. I also informed them that my son was not allowed to be near them again. I warned my son that if this were to happen again, I would not hesitate to get the police involved. He has been in trouble for a few other things since then, but not beyond school suspensions (I love those days, he gets to spend those days cleaning my house, getting the same breaks/lunch breaks he would get in school). He knows that I will make his life Hell, even to the point of following him around and embarrassing him, so he avoids the pressures of bad influences as much as possible. All of my kids are aware that I have no problem with embarrassing them. It is such a powerful tool, I love it!

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    See, that is me. I have so far been fortunate with my children but I have always been very blunt about what I would do. I’ve always told them that if they got into drugs, I would have their asses in rehab so fast, they wouldn’t have realized what happened. Steal? Suffer the consequences. I tell them that if I got a phone call from the police that they were in jail, I wouldn’t be getting them out.

    My oldest son, who is now 17, got involved with the wrong crowd a few years ago. These boys had zero respect for their parents or anyone else. They stole some cinnamon buns from the mall near me and stuck my son with the loot and ran. My son, in shock, ran as well after standing with the booty wondering what to do. I got a call from the mall security. He was fortunate that the seller wasn’t interested in pressing charges and he only received a 1 year ban from the mall (which was a big deal to my son, it is after all West Edmonton Mall). He didn’t though want to give his so-called friends up, so I did. It turned out that both of those boys had decent size records there. So, the next day, I called both boys’ mothers and let them in on what happened and that they need to take action on their kids. I also made sure I let them know how stupid they were as parents since they were claiming their kids’ were angels or that they were at their wits end with them. I also informed them that my son was not allowed to be near them again. I warned my son that if this were to happen again, I would not hesitate to get the police involved. He has been in trouble for a few other things since then, but not beyond school suspensions (I love those days, he gets to spend those days cleaning my house, getting the same breaks/lunch breaks he would get in school). He knows that I will make his life Hell, even to the point of following him around and embarrassing him, so he avoids the pressures of bad influences as much as possible. All of my kids are aware that I have no problem with embarrassing them. It is such a powerful tool, I love it!

  • Joevma

    This is a whole different language to me. The idea of my 11 year old son waving a gun at a clerk in a convenience store is laughable. Serious disconnect. I may be crazy but I wouldn’t let him ride his bike alone to the one 2 blocks away much less give him the freedom and time it would take to assemble a plan so diabolical. I consider him to be BAD AS HELLLL in an ordinary run of the mill kinda way. This shit is EXTRA. Really. Who does that?

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for correcting me, I wrote it the right way before posting but decided the other way… I’m not being sarcastic since I actually like it when they correct me for my spelling. Texting & chatting nowadays has ruined grammar for students.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for correcting me, I wrote it the right way before posting but decided the other way… I’m not being sarcastic since I actually like it when they correct me for my spelling. Texting & chatting nowadays has ruined grammar for students.

  • Anonymous

    Hey my kid’s 1 1/2 & gets slapped in the hand if she touches garbage or an electric outlet, after having this happen to her 3times she no longer has a need for touching either of the mentioned. She also gets time outs that are quite effective. I think they hurt her more than the hand slaps.

  • Anonymous

    Hey my kid’s 1 1/2 & gets slapped in the hand if she touches garbage or an electric outlet, after having this happen to her 3times she no longer has a need for touching either of the mentioned. She also gets time outs that are quite effective. I think they hurt her more than the hand slaps.

  • Anonymous

    Hey some people HAVE locked their kids in closets… but then again THEY are the wrong crowd & we’ve seen them here. LOL

  • Anonymous

    Hey you’re a parrot lady with kids that lives in AB too! Glad I’m not the only one… I’m just about 2hrs south from West Ed Mall…

  • Anonymous

    Hey you’re a parrot lady with kids that lives in AB too! Glad I’m not the only one… I’m just about 2hrs south from West Ed Mall…

  • http://justiceforcaylee.synthasite.com/ shyloh

    Aweee no hand slapping. And yes time out from the time they start walking ha.

  • http://justiceforcaylee.synthasite.com/ shyloh

    Aweee no hand slapping. And yes time out from the time they start walking ha.

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    I can walk to it. :P

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    I can walk to it. :P

  • Bohring

    Holy shit! Those kids need an ass-whuppin’! And Boarding School. Maybe a straight jacket. Some Thorzaine wouldn’t hurt. Fuck.

  • Bohring

    Holy shit! Those kids need an ass-whuppin’! And Boarding School. Maybe a straight jacket. Some Thorzaine wouldn’t hurt. Fuck.

  • Bohring

    Holy shit! Those kids need an ass-whuppin’! And Boarding School. Maybe a straight jacket. Some Thorzaine wouldn’t hurt. Fuck.

  • Athena

    Your 11 year old isn’t allowed to ride his bike a mere 2 blocks away? That should be criminal in and of itself, unless your child is handicapped or you live in South Central L.A., although I suspect neither is true. I would like to introduce you to FreeRangeKids.com. It’s not too late for you (or your poor, restricted child). ;)

    On another note, there IS a disconnect. Most of the posters here are white, middle-class adults who have NO experience with low-income, urban neighborhoods. We can’t imagine a world where 11 year olds can easily obtain guns, or are encouraged to knock off stores by way of armed robbery.

    I lived in such a neighborhood for four years during the first half of the decade and, boy, did it open my eyes to the complications and challenges poverty level families face every day in this country. For someone who grew up in an upper middle-class neighborhood, it was like moving to another country. The culture is COMPLETELY different. Standards and expectations are so much lower. Temptations are so much more dramatic and pervasive.

    I like to use one particular experience to illustrate just how different life is for kids growing up in the ghetto. Every kids plays “House” at some point, right? That much is the same, even in the ghetto. One summer day, my boyfriend and I were out BBQing. Just feet away, there was a group of young children, the oldest being 7 and the youngest being 3 or so, playing House. Suddenly, we hear one of the older girls exclaim to another older girl, “Whatchu doin’ wit my baby daddy?!?”

    THIS is “House” in the ghetto. There are no mommies and daddies, there are only baby mamas and baby daddies. The majority of households with children are fatherless. Scamming welfare is such common practice, no one blinks an eye. Even landlords will lie for their tenants to secure rent from DSHS. The men who are around to influence the lives of these kids are often drug dealers and pimps. The pressure to obtain money by any means necessary is crushing.

    As a result, we can’t really project our understanding of right and wrong to children in this environment, because their environment skews right and wrong. Right and wrong there isn’t defined by parents and teachers, it’s defined by necessity. Not that any of this excuses the actions of children brought up in such an environment, but it is a factor worthy of consideration, in my opinion.

  • captaingrumpy

    Bet your bottom dollar the kids have NO father, single mother who does not give a shit about the kid and who he hangs with. Seen it all before. The black fathers should be made to stay around and give the kids some time with a male figure.Otherwise the kids see their role models on TV and in jail.

  • captaingrumpy

    Bet your bottom dollar the kids have NO father, single mother who does not give a shit about the kid and who he hangs with. Seen it all before. The black fathers should be made to stay around and give the kids some time with a male figure.Otherwise the kids see their role models on TV and in jail.

  • captaingrumpy

    Bet your bottom dollar the kids have NO father, single mother who does not give a shit about the kid and who he hangs with. Seen it all before. The black fathers should be made to stay around and give the kids some time with a male figure.Otherwise the kids see their role models on TV and in jail.

  • captaingrumpy

    Bet your bottom dollar the kids have NO father, single mother who does not give a shit about the kid and who he hangs with. Seen it all before. The black fathers should be made to stay around and give the kids some time with a male figure.Otherwise the kids see their role models on TV and in jail.

  • captaingrumpy

    Once you are taught right from wrong,it stays with you and it does not matter where you live or what the expectations are……YOU KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT

  • captaingrumpy

    Once you are taught right from wrong,it stays with you and it does not matter where you live or what the expectations are……YOU KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT

  • captaingrumpy

    Once you are taught right from wrong,it stays with you and it does not matter where you live or what the expectations are……YOU KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT

  • captaingrumpy

    Once you are taught right from wrong,it stays with you and it does not matter where you live or what the expectations are……YOU KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT