Man Kills Wife, Four Stepchildren Before Killing Self, Leaves Biological Kids Unharmed

When will people understand that restraining orders and protection orders aren’t the proper solution to this problem?? They have never stopped a man from killing his wife/partner if that was what he set out to do. Makes me sick.

I really wouldn’t say it left the two biological children unharmed. They are going to be scarred for the rest of their lives.

I hate mean drunks it sounds like he should have went to an AA meating instead of the club. If he would have mabey it could have taught him how to work through his anger and face his issues head on rather than blaming everyone else for his problems. He aint got a thought in the world now.

I posted about my psycho ex and the inability to protect that protection orders promise. . . .Well once again I have have a swollen face and bruised body, am in hiding, and am embarressed to even go to work. Drunk assholes that offend just need to go to a special island so they can drink and fight . . . .each other. Fuckers. The police can keep him. . .for three days. Whoopdeedooo. That’s not long enough for me to find a safe place to live where he can’t find me, and move my belongings. So guess what. I get to leave everything I own. I LOSE. Over and over for a drunk piece of shit I beg the law to protect me from.

I hate him. I hope he dies a horrific death.

That’s the thing. . . .There IS a restraining order on him He will be out on Weds AM.

I agree with Athena, get a gun and learn how to use it. Then the second he shows up on your property shoot the bastard. Don’t even give him a chance to get close enough to grab it from you.

You have my prayers for your safety.

Guns aren’t usually a reasonable form of self-defense because, unfortunately, people don’t properly educate themselves, so the disadvantages end up outweighing the advantages, so I agree with you there. But, when it comes to women who are typically smaller than their male rivals, bats, knives, even self-defense training often comes up painfully insufficient.

Guns ARE the great equalizer. It provides invaluable distance that other weapons can’t create. Just brandishing one can end the conflict right then and there but, if not, you are practically guaranteed to stop your attacker (should the weapon be used effectively).

Besides, bats and knives are too much damn work. You’re not the problem, so why should you have to break a sweat?

Then if he comes around you at all, call the cops and have him thrown back in jail. That’s the purpose of a restraining order. Athena refers to getting a gun. If that doesn’t suit you, you could always use pepper spray, or mace if he messes with you again, then immediately call the cops. Good luck to you.

Depends on a number of factors. If you’re outside, pepper spray can be a bad idea, as you have to make sure your attacker is downwind, otherwise, the spray will blow back in your face potentially, disabling you instead (I’ve actually witnessed this happen). Also, some people have a tolerance for such sprays, so a spray might just piss the attacker off.

Besides, I like the idea of blowing a hole in some woman-beating son of a bitch. It’ll guarantee he can’t beat up any more women.

But… if someone really insists on non-letal force… you can always aim for a leg.

“But…if someone really insists on non-lethal force…you can always aim for a leg”. Good point.

Jinx! You totally owe me a Coke.

I’ve had a couple eye-witness experiences with pepper spray-gone-bad. It’s deceivingly simple, really. One case was just as described – a young lady in a parking lot had a man harassing her after leaving a bar. He got aggressive enough that she whipped her spray out of her purse and let loose. Problem is, she was the one downwind of the spray and she got NAILED. I was actually running in her direction intent on intervention as she pulled out the spray (that’s right, folks – not only am I aggravatingly self-righteous on the interwebz, I’ve got a superhero complex in real life), which was lucky, because she dropped to the ground in pain and would have been easy pickins for this creep had someone not been around to run interference. Ended up rinsing her eyeballs with a bottle of water I had in my purse and driving her to the hospital at her request. NOT the way you want to end a night at the bar (her, not me… I was just glad I could help).

In another, even more dramatic scenario, my husband (boyfriend, then), 17 year old sister and I were out BBQing when we lived in the hood. This hood was just south of downtown Seattle, near the port. So, when we suddenly found the air sucked out of our lungs accompanied by a chemical taste, my first thought was chemical weapons attack (it was post-9/11). I grabbed my man and my little sister and ushered them into the bathroom (a centralized room with no ventilation to it), using a wet towel to seal under the door and put moistened washclothes over our faces. When, after about 15 minutes, I heard no sirens, I snapped on a pair of safety goggles I had and stepped outside to investigate, washcloth still over my mouth and nose. NO ONE was outside, so I went up to a neighbor’s apartment. He had the same kind of thing going on and, a huge black man, insisted on accompanying me as I ventured farther to get the story.

As it turned out, the neighbors behind us had an altercation and some RETARDED fuckin’ bitch pulled BEAR mace. This mace proceeded to spread into every apartment in the complex (summer time, people had windows open), fucking up all 12 units. Of course, it was the hood, so no one called the authorities even though no one knew what was going on, only that they couldn’t breathe.

All this lead me to buy my little sister some foam pepper spray, available at most gun shops. It’s range isn’t as good and it can still be slightly affected by wind, but at least you don’t have to worry about fucking up the entire block, or catching the mist in the face.

Great stories, there, but you know what I’m most curious about? This part: ” I snapped on a pair of safety goggles I had and stepped outside to investigate.”

Like, not everyone carries around goggles when headed to a little friendly nieghborhood BBQ. Kinda kink or what? ; – )

then protect yourself. if you’ve had that many attempts to try and keep him away on record, go for broke and fight back. i admire you for your temper.. but i seriously can’t handle abuse – i do speak from experience, and know with that much evidence, you’ll have every woman’s right group on your side, and one hell of a hungry lawyer to defend you.

then protect yourself. if you’ve had that many attempts to try and keep him away on record, go for broke and fight back. i admire you for your temper.. but i seriously can’t handle abuse – i do speak from experience, and know with that much evidence, you’ll have every woman’s right group on your side, and one hell of a hungry lawyer to defend you.

I don’t think you can chalk up that sort of violence to simply being a ‘mean drunk’.

Honey please. you’ve got to find someone to bust his kneecaps. don’t kill him. just incapacitate him. I hope you can kick his ass.

They are young enough that they might get over it in a loving family, but what a crime to have to discover in their background when they’re older!! Imagine knowing that you were adopted and thinking you might want to search out your bio-parents one day, only to discover this!