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Greensburg, Ind. — Last Thursday, 15-year-old Billy (William) Lucas, was found hanging inside his family’s barn. His suicide is being attributed to reports of bullying even though the suicide note he left did not refer to being bullied or blame anyone in particular for his decision. Lucas was a student at Greensburg Community High School and reportedly a constant source of bullying since the fourth grade. In particular, remarks made about him being a “fag” and questioning his sexual orientation. Principal Phil Chapple doesn’t deny that students are bullied in the high school, no more than any others, but added he was never made aware of the situation regarding Lucas. If you read the comments in the news articles, as well as the messages left over at the Facebook Page created in his honor, everyone else seemed to be aware of it. Some are aggravated that it doesn’t look like any charges will be filed against any of the people who bullied Lucas over the years. No doubt the bullying probably didn’t help his mental state, but it would be kind of tough to prove it was the direct cause. I mean, if Lucas left a suicide note that didn’t blame anyone specific, how can the law? But hey, score one for the Christians — one possible gay kid they don’t have to worry about growing up and getting married.

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  • Anonymous

    ” But hey, score one for the Christians — one possible gay kid they don’t have to worry about growing up and getting married.”

    He drops backs, he shoots… and he gets three folks!!!! Nice one Morbid! Well said! Such a shame parents don’t realize thier prejudice kills.

  • uschi

    The last sentence is a shame.

  • Boughtthefarm

    I went to school with several gay males and they were tormented. One of them always totally denied it so he didn’t have to take as much shit as the other guy, but still, it was so sad. One of them is still my BFF today and has been for nearly 40 years. My hubby and I are also good friends with another gay male couple [don’t have any lesbien friends though] and it is just really sad that people are so limited and distorted in their minds. It makes me wish that one day the perverbial heterosexual white male will be the minority and they’ll finally get discriminated against and treated like shit so they can see how it feels. Christians or not, you suck if you treat any human being as less than such, without dignity & respect.

  • wishfulsinful

    you forgot, “and boom goes the dynamite”. : D

  • I sympathize with bullying victims because I was bullied mercilessly throughout school. People need to wake up. We all need to realize that the people who are doing the bullying are doing it to make themselves big by making someone else feel small.
    Interestingly, although there were tons of rumors about my sexual orientation when I was in school, being called a “lez” didn’t bother me, and maybe it was because I was actually straight so it just made me laugh. Being called a slut bothered me a lot more because even though I lost my virginity when I was barely 16, I thought I was in love with the jackass. I wasn’t promiscuous. I started self-injuring at that point in my life and ended up locked in a psych ward for a weekend when I gored the hell out of my wrist after taking a handful of diet pills. The wounds were actually superficial. This was back in the early 80’s. I was treated like I was both stupid and crazy. I’m not saying that cutting oneself is normal behavior, but it’s a sign that something is going on that needs to be looked into, and simply acting like a condescending ass isn’t going to help anybody. One nurse even told me “you are a freak, you will always be a freak, people like you will never be normal.” I said “better a freak than a bitch like you.” She went out of her way to make my stay there hell.
    It took until I was 38 years old to be properly diagnosed with Bipolar II, and longer than that to realize that I also have borderline personality disorder, OCD, and PTSD.
    I certainly hope that the mental health system has improved since I was a troubled teenager, but the schools need to be on the lookout for kids like this young man and all adults are responsible for teaching kids that being different is not an open invitation to inflict misery on another.

  • Anonymous

    Morbid….KNOWS he is the dynamite! lol :p

  • “But hey, score one for the Christians — one possible gay kid they don’t have to worry about growing up and getting married.” ~Morbid

  • “But hey, score one for the Christians — one possible gay kid they don’t have to worry about growing up and getting married.” ~Morbid

  • laaaadaaadaaaa

    “Bullicide” as I’ve heard it called is one of the worst things I can think of. Growing up is hard enough, I could only imagine how hard it is for children who are constantly teased and tormented. Charges need to be pursued in this case. And I think more classes should be mandatory in school that help student’s characteristics instead of just helping them academically….

    I’m not sure if anyone’s familiar with the show “If you really knew me”….but it’s a surprisingly touching show, I’ve teared up watching the few episodes I’ve seen…the show really wakes high school students up and shows them being a bully does have consequences and the way it hurts their victims feelings. If you can get past the fact that it’s a show on mtv, you may want to watch it

  • laaaadaaadaaaa

    “Bullicide” as I’ve heard it called is one of the worst things I can think of. Growing up is hard enough, I could only imagine how hard it is for children who are constantly teased and tormented. Charges need to be pursued in this case. And I think more classes should be mandatory in school that help student’s characteristics instead of just helping them academically….

    I’m not sure if anyone’s familiar with the show “If you really knew me”….but it’s a surprisingly touching show, I’ve teared up watching the few episodes I’ve seen…the show really wakes high school students up and shows them being a bully does have consequences and the way it hurts their victims feelings. If you can get past the fact that it’s a show on mtv, you may want to watch it

  • I couldn’t agree more.

  • IntelligentVirtue

    ((Hugs)) and thank you for sharing your story. I think people tend to forget that kids (yes even teenagers) aren’t qualified to deal with certain situations resulting in them “acting out.” I think its absolutely vital to investigate they underlying cause whenever a change in their behaviour is recognizable instead of alienating them and labeling them “bad” or “crazy.” Thank you again for sharing.

  • Chellababy

    I love that show, i wish my high school had held a challenge day… things would have been alot different… Every episode I have watched has brought me to tears, I can relate to at least one of those kids.. I wasnt bullied at school, but I was alone most of the time. And if there had been a challenge day, maybe someone would have noticed me and I would have had a better high school experience. I feel really bad for this kid, no one should have to be tortured in school..its hard enough…

  • Chellababy

    I love that show, i wish my high school had held a challenge day… things would have been alot different… Every episode I have watched has brought me to tears, I can relate to at least one of those kids.. I wasnt bullied at school, but I was alone most of the time. And if there had been a challenge day, maybe someone would have noticed me and I would have had a better high school experience. I feel really bad for this kid, no one should have to be tortured in school..its hard enough…

  • Chellababy

    I love that show, i wish my high school had held a challenge day… things would have been alot different… Every episode I have watched has brought me to tears, I can relate to at least one of those kids.. I wasnt bullied at school, but I was alone most of the time. And if there had been a challenge day, maybe someone would have noticed me and I would have had a better high school experience. I feel really bad for this kid, no one should have to be tortured in school..its hard enough…

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree with your last sentence. My family is Catholic and we love and completely support my brother, who is gay.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree with your last sentence. My family is Catholic and we love and completely support my brother, who is gay.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree with your last sentence. My family is Catholic and we love and completely support my brother, who is gay.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t agree with your last sentence. My family is Catholic and we love and completely support my brother, who is gay.

  • Athena

    Shitty.

    Tragically, you’re a PERFECT example of what I was talking about in the other thread about bullying. Research has shown (and your experience supports) that bullies target children (and adults) who are socially awkward. Just like maggots on a wound are a symptom of decay, chronic bullying is often a symptom of a social disorder in the target.

    On a general scale, of course we should strive to teach children that bullying is wrong. But if a child is being bullied consistently, it’s not a bad idea to take that child to a mental health professional. It may very well be that the child is being targeted due to a treatable illness. You may not be able to prevent the bullying, but it may be an opportunity to identify disorders that can be addressed to improve the child’s quality of life.

    Just imagine if we had known then what is known today. You might not have had to suffer from undiagnosed conditions until you were 38. Hopefully, the connection between social disorders and bullying becomes more publicised. We may be able to prevent more suicides if parents are able to put two and two together and, rather than attempting to “treat” the bullies, they focus on treating their child. Might even hit two birds with one stone in that respect.

  • Anonymous

    I was bullied through elementry school till mid 8th grade I had thoughts of suicide and I was depressed but said nothing to no one. Instead I took up writing and drawing sure I was in the guidence counselors office for some off colure stories things kids would be expelled and under investigation for these days lol. Around mid year in 8th grade the doctor put me on dexedrine for adhd. I lost all the weight put on alot of muscle and started bullying the kids that would bully me I also took up for other kids when I witnessed them being bullied by others. I felt like I was 10 feet tall and bullet proof literaly. I continued taking it till I was a Jr in highschool then stopped. Sure I may have gained the weight back but no one still messed with me. You just have to stick up for yourself if you dont then you are a target and they have power over you.

  • KAOS

    Thankfully I have never suffered at the hands of a bully, but I have seen the effects on other kids while in school. It had enough of an impact on me that I have drilled it into my childrens heads that bullying will not be tolerated, and so far it has worked, bullies are weak, but I believe it is due to weak parents, projecting inadequacies on their children. Bullies piss me off

  • Anonymous

    That’s cool! Your family rocks. Of course, that goes against the church’s official stand on that matter. Like supporting a woman’s legal right to terminate a pregnancy. Or using birth control. . .

  • Anonymous

    Are you saying he has a big stick?

  • Anonymous

    Not compared to the very real problem it addresses. . .

  • Anonymous

    Sweet post . . .

  • Athena

    I know, right? Must be nice to be able to cherry-pick morals from your religious text of choice. Unfortunately, if God is who the Catholics think he is, that ain’t gonna fly with him when Judgment Day arrives.

    That said, good on AMG’s family for being able to put their faith aside in the interest of doing the right thing. I wish more of the devout could find such courage and decency.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. AMG=good egg, as they say.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah…I don’t agree with the church on those issues either…or most of the issues for that matter….

  • Anonymous

    I don’t “cherry-pick” my morals, I just don’t agree with everything the church says. I don’t go to church, but I do have my own relationship with God…and I don’t think that I have anything to worry about when Judgment Day does arrive.

  • Bob

    Wow, I didn’t think of it like that. Great analogy with the maggots.

  • Anonymous

    Very true and that basically the main cause. I befriended some of the people that bullied me once I stood up to them. Their parents were horrible they were drunks and beat them and everything else. It really comes down to home life in alot of the cases I have witnessed myself. They are lashing out in anger because their home life sucks they suffer so they take it out on others. Its not all cases but it is a factor.

  • Boughtthefarm

    Believe it or not, the Catholic church and its members have evolved since the 50s and 60s. Really, if you aren’t catholic you shouldn’t judge those who are or pretend you really know our faith. I was raised Catholic by the most devout of parents and we were taught to love and embrace every human being. It really isn’t totally about religion – any religion. It’s about love, respect, self respect and dignity. Its about the way you treat yourself and others that matters. Its about accepting personal responsibility for ones self and allowing others to do the same without passing judgment and throwing stones at those who are different than we are, in whatever way. We simply cannot bear each other burdens so we must allow each other to find what is right for ourselves, because we are the ones who must accept responsibility for it. My Catholic priest told me all that and more. I don’t think we are hypocrits just because thousands of years ago there was no birth control and there is now and we are using it. But if you do, that is YOUR problem to deal with.

  • Boughtthefarm

    BTW Morbid….I believe HLN is getting all of its 5:00 and 6:00 content from DD. Most of todays topics here were reported there and its happened b4.

  • Athena

    Sorry if my post sounded harsh, AMG… I’m a recovering Catholic, myself, and if there’s one thing I learned while I was amongst the ranks, it’s that church-skipping dissidents may as well not consider themselves Catholic.

    So I stopped considering myself Catholic. There might be a bit of residual bitterness there.

  • Athena

    Sorry if my post sounded harsh, AMG… I’m a recovering Catholic, myself, and if there’s one thing I learned while I was amongst the ranks, it’s that church-skipping dissidents may as well not consider themselves Catholic.

    So I stopped considering myself Catholic. There might be a bit of residual bitterness there.

  • Athena

    Sorry if my post sounded harsh, AMG… I’m a recovering Catholic, myself, and if there’s one thing I learned while I was amongst the ranks, it’s that church-skipping dissidents may as well not consider themselves Catholic.

    So I stopped considering myself Catholic. There might be a bit of residual bitterness there.

  • Athena

    That’s all fine and good, BTF. I’m glad your parents raised you that way. But, please understand that, to someone like me who is intimately familiar with the Catholic Church, your post sounds a lot like a KKK member who’s like, “Hey, we might have been about lynchin’ darkies for decades, and that might be what the Grand Wizard still advocates, but I’m different.”

    People who identify themselves as Catholics are knowingly associating themselves with (and financing) an organization that actively works to impede the rights of gays and women, shelters child molestors and would rather see AIDS spread in Africa than allow them to use condoms, among other things. So, while I’m glad YOU live a life of tolerance, sunshine and lollipops, you’re going to have to forgive those who make assumptions about Catholics… It’s the flag YOU chose to fly, and it comes with some consequences. We’re being no more unreasonable than people who assume things about Crips or Scientologists.

  • Anonymous

    “Believe it or not, the Catholic church and its members have evolved since the 50s and 60s.”

    Some of its members, sure. But, as far as official decrees go? Tell that to the Pope.

    That’s great that you are living your life in a decent way without feeling there’s some dissonance with your personal religious beliefs, and that your priest supports that. But that doesn’t change the Catholic church’s offical stances on these things.

  • Anonymous

    “Really, if you aren’t catholic you shouldn’t judge those who are or pretend you really know our faith”

    But by this logic, we should not judge anything that is not part of our own personal experience, which means most of us shouldn’t judge most of the people or situations that appear on this site.

    That said, I appreciate hearing about your own personal experience of your religion. (But that doesn’t mean it’s necessarily representative of the Catholic churches teachings at large.)

  • Anonymous

    All true. The official stances are what they are. And those stances are not ambiguous. And . . . besides . . . can a woman judge a man? Can a white person judge a Chinese person? Can a non-child-molester judge a child molester? Can a person in a small town in Oklahoma judge a person in Los Angeles? Yes. And we do.

  • Anonymous

    Morbid you knew you would get the christians panties in a bunch by posting that. You took a serious discussion about real issues and tried to see how long it took for the christians to turn it into the Ringling Bros. Circus. LOL!

  • Anonymous

    But . . . the fact that various Christian denominations advocate intolerance toward homosexuality in this country and even advocate in some cases for criminalizing it IS a serious and real issue, and simply cannot be separated from the intolerance shown to gay people, can it?

  • Anonymous

    Is the sentence a shame, or the fact that it’s completely accurate a shame?

  • Anonymous

    What a relief to hear about a family that understands unconditional love! Sadly, it doesn’t invalidate the truth of that sentence. Your family is the exception that proves the rule.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty comfortable with judging the papacy. Especially one that excommunicates the doctor, mother and entire medical team for performing a life saving abortion on a 9 year old Brazilian rape victim, but does nothing to condemn her stepfather rapist. So, yeah. I’m going to continue judging the Catholic Church so long as it continues to do the insane shit it does.

  • Anonymous

    It’s certainly serious to anyone one who is gay, or anyone who loves or cares about a person who is gay.

  • VXIII

    such a beautiful young man, wish someone would have been there for you little guy, he has such kind eyes, I know Im not saying this right but you can look in this kids eyes and see he was not just a regular kid, he was special and one day, probobly would have helped a lot of other people…

  • Athena

    “Especially one that excommunicates the doctor, mother and entire medical team for performing a life saving abortion on a 9 year old Brazilian rape victim, but does nothing to condemn her stepfather rapist.”

    Oooooohhhh… Burn.

  • Ninja0980

    And yet, “family values” groups are fighting laws that would give protection to LGBT students. It disguists me.
    Sorry but IMO, many “Christian” groups like Focus On The Family, The Family Research Council etc are delighted to hear this story and love how in the Middle East homosexuality is punishable by death. I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.
    In the meantime, they’ll simply fight any laws that ensure protection to LGBT and try to make everyone see them as the biggest threat America faces to ensure violence will happen to them.
    Sorry but the people leading the charge against gay marriage has been religious groups. Those groups deserve all the scorn they can get.

  • Anonymous

    He He ….I don’t know? Morbid? I do believe this is a question only you can answer! 🙂 Inquiring minds want to know! :p

  • Heaven1033

    I consider myself Catholic, only because it is what I was born into. I went to catholic school for most of my life and I was married in the church…and divorced…but I gues that didn’t happen in the church-LOL. My Grand Mother just recently retired from her life of teaching in a Catholic school and still hands out communion with the Preists to this day. It’s just easier….but I also don’t think that I am alone. Not even MOST Christians are against gay people. I still diasgree with the the same last sentence….

  • Heaven1033

    It’s AMGallagher- I don’t know why it stuck me in as this?!

  • Anonymous

    When I was in elementry school, I was picked on constantly because tall and thin. One day I came home bruised up, my father, instead of going to the police had me learn Judo for 5 years. So when I got bullied, I would get in his face and challenge the bully to a fight (not after school) right there, they would back down. But if a bully would take a swing at me (which happened once in High School gym class) I would pound on him until he ran away or someone separated us. But there was always another one to take his place and the whole thing would start over again. I just had to stand my ground each time and show them I wasn’t afraid.

  • Anonymous

    You all have made such wonderful points. My mother used to tell me that you can’t look to the people in a church to form a judgement about Christianity. That you have to look to God and God only. Well God to me is not Christianity. He is not a religion. Religion is a method of worship of a deity. I guess I was in my early 30’s when this hit me and I could be totally wrong, but it has worked for me. I chose the path of the witch. Because I could walk my own path just me and God. I lost my WHOLE extended family because of this. They are all Southern Baptist, devout. But I had seen way too much two-sided, hate-filled, money-loving bullshit to last me a lifetime and I was sinking fast. I had been in church every time the doors opened from birth and I love everything about God and Jesus and I hated seeing the true spirit of love, faith and charity being corrupted. This young man wouldn’t have taken his life if he had known how much he was loved and cherished, not just by his family, but by others who could have made a difference instead of standing on thier moral high ground. It doesn’t make me mad at God, it makes me mad at those that think they have been given license to judge.

  • Anonymous

    His modesty prevents him from answering such an indelicate question! : )

  • Blackisbeautiful

    Bullying as in life .. comes in many different shapes or form, I was made fun of because I was to dark. My mom was very into church and forgiveness so I always forgave them but i suffered so much, I always acted tough but it broke me mentally. I finally grew up and now that im 6’4 and 280 I dont think someone will make fun of my skin tone, at least not to my face, any time soon. And you know what’s really funny … I have a daughter and son that both have albinism lol They are beautiful but go thru a lot of name calling as well. There are people that need to make others feel pain so they can feel good superior. I guess there are so many reasons why one act the way they do, we will never know.

  • Anonymous

    Eliz is pretty rad.

  • Anonymous

    “And yet, “family values” groups are fighting laws that would give protection to LGBT students.”

    That’s the least of it. IMO, all fundamentalist religions around the world should have to go have their own stupid country. As much as they battle each other because each one things their own god is the right one, in fact they all want the same kind of society.

  • Xoxo

    Your comments about Christians is so stupid. I am a Christian and I am not against Gays.
    There are Christian churches for Gays and lesbians, we are the most accepting religion when it comes to the gay and lesbian community.

  • OhLawd

    Oh boy…

  • J_shay0711

    lol..WOW!! Some of yall fuckin amaze me!! Who gives a flying fuck if this kid was gay or not..the point is….he committed suicide for being himself!! I was always taught to be myself no matter what…its a shame that this kid died for that.. cause little bastard kids have nothing better to do than make fun of other kids

  • Anonymous

    I have wondered if this young man was even gay, Cie’s post started me on to this line of thinking. I remember how hard it was to be his age. And if he was baggered to the point that everyone believed him to be gay and he wasn’t can you imagine how that must have felt for him. Especially if he had no ill feeling towards people that are gay. Girls wouldn’t want to be his girlfriend, boys wouldn’t want to be his friend for fear of being called gay also. Now that is ALONE. Parents who speak so negatively about being gay risk isolating thier own child before they ever realize it. Not to mention they give thier children license to ridicule other children who are gay because if my parents do it then I can too.

  • Anonymous

    I have wondered if this young man was even gay, Cie’s post started me on to this line of thinking. I remember how hard it was to be his age. And if he was baggered to the point that everyone believed him to be gay and he wasn’t can you imagine how that must have felt for him. Especially if he had no ill feeling towards people that are gay. Girls wouldn’t want to be his girlfriend, boys wouldn’t want to be his friend for fear of being called gay also. Now that is ALONE. Parents who speak so negatively about being gay risk isolating thier own child before they ever realize it. Not to mention they give thier children license to ridicule other children who are gay because if my parents do it then I can too.

  • Anonymous

    Yep thats really all it takes and if its a gang of them doing it challange the biggest one of them in the group because if he backs down they all do.

  • Anonymous

    They should just rename their religion and call it oppression and it will never stop they have done it for thousands of years brainwashing one generation to the next. The church has no place in my home and never will if I have anything to say about it. I am a good person and I like helping others and that should be enough.

  • ed

    I don’t think discriminating against and treating heteros “like shit” will solve anything. In fact, my theory is that “fag bashers” have a great deal of self-hatred. That is why, since they hate gays, even though they suspect they themselves might be gay, they freak out and lash out. I would also bet that bullies are themselves bullied. Not that that’s an excuse, just a reason. Many abused people don’t go on to abuse others, but you can bet that the overwhelming majority of bullies have been abused.

  • ed

    Maggots are actually really helpful in terms of getting rid of decaying flesh. They are sometimes used in surgery.

  • J_shay0711

    I couldnt agree with you more. I guess I always had the mind frame of if its not true then dont let it bother you. Either way it goes..gay or not this kid shouldnt have been bullied to death.

  • J_shay0711

    I couldnt agree with you more. I guess I always had the mind frame of if its not true then dont let it bother you. Either way it goes..gay or not this kid shouldnt have been bullied to death.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I don’t think we really need to worry about discrimination against heteros as a major (or even minor) issue. That’s funny, though.

  • Anonymous

    What, you mean you don’t need the fear of hell and the promise of heaven to scare you into being a good person? AMAZING! 🙂

  • Anonymous

    Love the last comment in the article: ” one less gay kid that will grow up & get married!” That’s exaclty how they’ll see it instead of one less soul that will see God.

    Disgusting. I was bullied & then in the 10yr reunion people wanted me to go & I was like FUCK YOU ALL… I HATED HIGH SCHOOL I NEVER WANNA SEE YOUR FACES AGAIN. Who ever goes to those things are usually the bullies who had a good time back then. I am happier, stronger, confident & definatedly bully-free since I got out of school. Except for when I drive & I’m getting tailgated & then I have a traffic accident & I GET A TAILGATTING TICKET from the officer for “following to keep a safe distance from the driver ahead”. FUCK YOU OFFICER! I don’t tailgate, he just stopped moving while I was side checking my mirror.

    Sorry, I had to get that out.

  • Littletbigl

    I’ve been reading some news articles about this and they make no mention of Christianity. A young boy kills himself and you use this terrible tragedy as an opportunity for everyone to talk about how much they hate Christianity? That’s despicable, and don’t even try making excuses like “we’re focusing on the real issue” because you’re not being driven by compassion for this poor boy but rather by hatred toward something else. You guys are the only ones acting “happy” to hear this.

  • Anonymous

    Awww! You’re pretty rad, too, sugarglider.

  • Anonymous

    BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

    First of all, if you are not “against gays,” that’s great to hear, however, you are not ALL christians. I wish you were right, but I’d imagine that many would have a bone to pick with you.

    Second, the violence and intolerance perpetrated upon GLBT folks in the name of Christianity by self-proclaimed christians is pretty undeniable. How on Earth you can believe that the Christian faith is the most accepting of the GLBT community is completely beyond me. Seriously? What other religions hate homosexuals more than christianity? Islam and Judaism regard homosexuality in the same light as christianity. Do you REALLY think that christians, the people who brought us camps to “cure homosexuals,” are more tolerant than Buddhists, Wiccans, or Hindus? You are either completely ignorant or willfully deceitful. Do you mean that your particular flavor of christianity is tolerant? Well, guess what? Yours isn’t the only denomination, and I’d imagine that if yours is tolerant, you’re probably considered to be “fake christians” by many of the rest of them.

  • esteban

    Athena….that makes you a protestant. technically speaking. you know that, right?

  • esteban

    Athena….that makes you a protestant. technically speaking. you know that, right?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Anonymous

    Right you are!

    “I have no doubt in my mind they would pass those laws here in a heartbeat if they could.”

    Sure. Enough of their politicians have said so in no uncertain terms. And the Montana GOP just made outlawing homosexuality an actual tenet of their party platform. The people who crack me up are the gay republicans–they’re called the Log Cabin Republicans (not sure if “Log” is a pun)–it’s like, are you retarded?

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    Sorry to hear about your experience. Being raised in a hyper-liberal suburb of Seattle, I’ve never seen anyone harassed due to their color, myself… it’s hard for me to imagine.

    That said, while you may be right (I don’t know the circumstances under which you grew up), I wouldn’t entirely discredit the possibility that you were targeted due to some subtle social awkwardness (you mentioned that your mom was very religious… that’s often a red flag regarding socialization). It may have manifested itself in comments about your color, but that doesn’t mean that was the actual cause.

    Also, patterns tend to repeat in peoples’ children, if only because those traits that created a bullying scenario, be it social awkwardness or social aggression, tend to be passed down (either environmentally or inherently via behavioral genetics). So, again, while it’s possible that your children’s unfortunate torment may be due to their color (even more likely if they suffer from something like albinism), it could also be due to some subtle tendencies unwittingly passed down.

    Of course, there’s a third player in the bullying scenario, more rare than the victim or the aggressor, and that is the third-party peer who will step in on behalf of the victim in an attempt to stop the bullying. Research has identified this individual as the single most successful defense against bullying. Parental intervention, school official intervention, the victim fighting back – these are all practically useless tactics in comparison.

    So, while the importance of raising non-victims and non-bullies is important, I would suggest it is equally important for us to teach our children to step in when they witness injustice, as that is the TRUE key to limiting bullying in our schools. Sure, we all hate to think of our children potentially risking their own well-being to save someone else, but, statistically, the risk is very small. If a third-party peer steps in, they are MUCH more likely to diffuse the bullying than bring the bullying upon themselves. Besides, the experience will give them character, courage, and impart in them the importance and power associated with being a good community member.

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    I’ve always wondered about that, myself. I guess it could be likened to my support for Ron Paul during the last election. He is pro-life and I am vehemently pro-choice, a fundamental discrepancy, obviously. But I had to prioritize, and wasn’t going to end my support simply because a single one of his positions was contrary to mine, even if it was SO VERY contrary. I suppose the Log Cabiners use a similar logic?

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Athena

    Actually, Esteban, I’ve been successfully and happily God-free for some time, now. Because believing in God is still a requirment for Protestantism, I believe that makes me an atheist. 😉

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Typical. The Christian cannot wrap his mind around the fact that when someone says they don’t believe that there’s a god, they mean exactly what they say.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on one’s priorities, I guess. Me, I could never vote for someone who opposed a woman’s legal right to decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, or who actively campaigned to make the legal acquisition of abortion more difficult. As for the Log Cabiners, the demographic is typically male and wealthy; they are typically neo-con types (rather than religious conservatives) who, like other wealthy conservatives, think it’s fair for the middle-class to pay a higher percentage of their salaries than do the wealthy (and, like many of their straight fat-cat counterparts) attempt to justify their greedyguts approach by claiming what virtually no credible economists even TRY to argue anymore: that supplyside “trickle-down” economics works. . .which is basically a big LOL in the financial sector at this point.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. Clarification: I would vote for a liberal who was soft on pro-choice (like Hillary Clinton) ONLY if there was no better option, or if voting for the stronger pro-choice candidate would somehow split the party vote and enable the Republican to win. And if pro-choice ever fell off the *official national platform* for the Dems, I would probably try to get myself employed at a school in the UK or certain European countries. I just really can’t contribute to a system that wants to make me a 2nd-class citizen.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • broken

    You are going to Hell Athena.

    You fucking harlot, God-hating liberal.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t know you moonlighted as a comedian.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • headonapike

    Esteban was also jealous when the guy was found dead with something stuck up his ass by his so called friends. Consider the source. Remember that comment made to me about Trolls. You’re fishing for two of them right now. By the way, I believe in God, so I have other reasons for siding with you.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Athena

    It does depend on priority. From my perspective, the President does little (if anything) to affect reproductive rights legislation. His opinion on the matter is largely a non-issue. I was focused on the issues the President IS likely to affect, namely, foreign policy, which is why when Ron Paul was no longer in the race, I ultimately voted for Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Esteban: when I click on his profile, it shows he’s only made 1 comment on the DD ever (?). Re: the various gods people believe in (Christian God, Allah, Zeus, Xenu, Shiva), it’s not my thing, but to each their own. (If more religious people embraced the rubric of “to each their own,” the world would be a different, and better, place.) Unfortunately, it seems to be the special bailiwick of many Christians to believe that people who don’t believe in their god actually DO believe but are just screwing around and acting rebellious for the heck of it. Hence Esteban’s, uh, Christocentric (for lack of a better word) designation of Athena as a Protestant.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, I see. But the President does everything to affect repro rights legislation–and everything else. Not directly; you’re right about that. The POTUS nominates the members of the Supreme Court as vacancies emerge, and those judges are members of that all-important court for the durations of their lives. There’s nothing that affects Americans more than what happens on the SCOTUS.

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • Anonymous

    p.s. I honestly can’t tell if you were serious or not. Tard or comedian? Pls. specify. You have only made a handful of comments on the DD, and they didn’t seem tarded, so I assumed you were joking. (Especially since Jesus sure as hell wouldn’t be a Republican. Can’t think of a more bleeding heart liberal than JC.)

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • headonapike

    estaban must have changed something. It took me awhile go find his?? comment. I didn’t like it as you will see. Check out comments re- “Troy Stewart and Lauren Reed are a couple of real sticks in the mud.” dated July 26.

  • Anonymous

    Huh.

  • broken

    I’ve been around DD for nearly 5 years.

    I just recently started posting on the front page. Athena and I joke a lot on the forums. : )

  • Anonymous

    p.s. you sure have a good memory!

  • Anonymous

    Oh, cool. I figured as much! But you never know! In that case, yay for comedians.

  • Athena

    Hell, our joking pre-dates our DD debuts, come to think about it.

    From man-hating lesbian to harlot, God-hating liberal. At least I’m consistent.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about “harlot”; I think it was suggested recently that you were not living up to your moniker as the Goddess of Love.

  • Anonymous

    WHY is Ron Paul anti-abortion? He doesn’t think the government has the right to TAX you, but he DOES think they can force women to bear children against their will? He needs to get his fucking priorities straight.

  • Anonymous

    The Bible calls for DEATH BY STONING for homosexuals. I can definitely see gays being a little nervous when they read something like that.

  • Athena

    I understand that, and, yes, I realize that, given the vacancies that have emerged since Obama’s tenure, Roe vs. Wade could have been challenged had Paul be able to fill those vacancies. Hindsight is always 20/20, in that respect. But even then, Paul’s picks would have had a decided libertarian tint, which wouldn’t be so bad in many respects.

    My primary concern in the 2008 elections was foreign policy, an area in which I greatly prefered Paul’s clear convictions over Obama’s attempts at moderation.

  • Athena

    He’s an OBGYN. With an intimate familiarity with hundreds of babies from conception to birth, I can see how his priorities might be a bit skewed, in that respect. He believes that life begins at conception, which complicates the issue a great deal for some.

    That said, he has no interest in a federal ban. He simply opposes federal regulation, which is consistent with his position on several issues.

  • Anonymous

    Well, we all make choices about candidates based on some ordering of our deepest held priorties. It’s tough. We also make choices based on whom we think can win. It killed me when people supported Nader in past elections. Not b/c I didn’t get it but because there was no way dude was gonna win and any vote for him just contributed to success for Bush.

    About Roe: when the court’s split is 5/4, that’s a scary place.

  • Anonymous

    Well, we all make choices about candidates based on some ordering of our deepest held priorties. It’s tough. We also make choices based on whom we think can win. It killed me when people supported Nader in past elections. Not b/c I didn’t get it but because there was no way dude was gonna win and any vote for him just contributed to success for Bush.

    About Roe: when the court’s split is 5/4, that’s a scary place.

  • Anonymous

    Um, no. Here’s his stance, in case any of the finer points got lost in the mix:
    http://www.randpaul2010.com/issues/a-g/abortion-2/
    He does not think the court should have heard Roe v. Wade. He wants a “pro-life constutional amendment” passed (wow, really against federal intervention, huh? No, he isn’t. He’s a hypocrite about that. He likes it when it works for what he wants!). He is 100% “pro-life.”In the meantime, he wants individual states to be able to outlaw abortions. He will do anything in his power to make safe and legal abortions impossible in America. I flat-out despise him for it. I’m sorry, but you are downplaying his stance. Perhaps it makes you feel better about liking him, since there are other aspects of his policies you favor, I don’t know. But he has been utterly clear about abortion, make no mistake about that.
    And being an OBGYN has fuckall to do with it. Who performs abortions? People with OBGYN training. His personal brand of OBGYNness would be more at home in a country where the laws were consonant with his agenda.
    There are other reasons I don’t like him. Anti-regulation? Ooo, great. Deregulating Wall Street and other aspects of the financial sector (e.g., the housing market) has eviscerated our economy (Clinton was partly to blame). The private sector does not “take care of itself”; or, to be more precise, it takes care of a few folks, the worst mafleasors, very well, and that’s it. I don’t know how long it will take the US to recover. Japan’s similarly caused recession took 20+ years to crawl out of; they dealt with it in the same inadequate way we have so far, and it’s pathetic if we don’t learn from that example. What else? Hmm, he thinks everyone should have lower taxes. Well, not everyone should, and not just because we need to do exciting “socialist” things like deal with roads, stoplights, public schools, but because the richest pay the lowest percentage of their income and the poorest taxpayers pay the highest (he loves him some rich people). Oh, and healthcare? Too regulated, he says, let the free market deal with it–like it is now, with insurance companies that exist for no reason than to rape your wallet. Yippee! For almost all his platforms, I am on the other side. Well, I won’t go on here ad nauseam. I guess it’s clear I’m no Rand fan! And now I’m offf to bed. ‘night.

  • Anonymous

    Um, no. Here’s his stance, in case any of the finer points got lost in the mix:
    http://www.randpaul2010.com/issues/a-g/abortion-2/
    He does not think the court should have heard Roe v. Wade. He wants a “pro-life constutional amendment” passed (wow, really against federal intervention, huh? No, he isn’t. He’s a hypocrite about that. He likes it when it works for what he wants!). He is 100% “pro-life.”In the meantime, he wants individual states to be able to outlaw abortions. He will do anything in his power to make safe and legal abortions impossible in America. I flat-out despise him for it. I’m sorry, but you are downplaying his stance. Perhaps it makes you feel better about liking him, since there are other aspects of his policies you favor, I don’t know. But he has been utterly clear about abortion, make no mistake about that.
    And being an OBGYN has fuckall to do with it. Who performs abortions? People with OBGYN training. His personal brand of OBGYNness would be more at home in a country where the laws were consonant with his agenda.
    There are other reasons I don’t like him. Anti-regulation? Ooo, great. Deregulating Wall Street and other aspects of the financial sector (e.g., the housing market) has eviscerated our economy (Clinton was partly to blame). The private sector does not “take care of itself”; or, to be more precise, it takes care of a few folks, the worst mafleasors, very well, and that’s it. I don’t know how long it will take the US to recover. Japan’s similarly caused recession took 20+ years to crawl out of; they dealt with it in the same inadequate way we have so far, and it’s pathetic if we don’t learn from that example. What else? Hmm, he thinks everyone should have lower taxes. Well, not everyone should, and not just because we need to do exciting “socialist” things like deal with roads, stoplights, public schools, but because the richest pay the lowest percentage of their income and the poorest taxpayers pay the highest (he loves him some rich people). Oh, and healthcare? Too regulated, he says, let the free market deal with it–like it is now, with insurance companies that exist for no reason than to rape your wallet. Yippee! For almost all his platforms, I am on the other side. Well, I won’t go on here ad nauseam. I guess it’s clear I’m no Rand fan! And now I’m offf to bed. ‘night.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, he DOES think that. You are absolutely right. He’s a hypocrite (and for some reason it reminds me of Palin who thinks she should be Pres but ALSO thinks she shouldn’t have the right to vote, since the amendment that gave women the vote wasn’t in the original Bill of Rights). See my post below for more about just where Dude stands on abortion. It’s extreme.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, he DOES think that. You are absolutely right. He’s a hypocrite (and for some reason it reminds me of Palin who thinks she should be Pres but ALSO thinks she shouldn’t have the right to vote, since the amendment that gave women the vote wasn’t in the original Bill of Rights). See my post below for more about just where Dude stands on abortion. It’s extreme.

  • Anonymous

    The bible also calls for condemnation of people who wear clothing of mixed fibers. So, I guess we can all get ready for hell now.

  • Anonymous

    The bible also calls for condemnation of people who wear clothing of mixed fibers. So, I guess we can all get ready for hell now.

  • melb1970

    Back in Leviticus it called for a lot of strange rules- menstruating women could not prepare meals and had to sleep separate from their husbands. Meat had to be prepared a certain way. You were not to plant the same crop in a field two years in a row.
    Most of these rules laid down in Levitcus actually existed to keep the tribe healthy and prosperous.
    Menstruation in Biblical times was not understood and considered an illness-
    You don’t plant the same crop in a field two years in a row because the crop will deplete the minerals in the soil. ( Farmers do it today only because we have fertilizer)
    Mixed weaves would make a garment more likely to fray and decay ( today’s clothing for example – hell ya can dig a mummy up and it’s still wearing bandages WTF)
    Meat was prepared a certain way and some not eaten at all (pork/salmonella) due to yet again perceived hazards in a developing society.
    Sadly enough stoning gay people in the Old Testament was an attempt to weed out the weak in the tribe. Gay people in those days could not reproduce and in their elder years would be nothing but a drain on the tribe- no children to take them in.

    As we know Iran still stones gay people and well the Bible has nothing to do with it.

    Several Christian denominations have embraced the homosexual community- you have gay/lesbian pastors in the Lutheran and Methodists faith here in my town.

    The Bible is 2000 years old has been translated from the ancient Hebrew text at least that many times- think about it.

  • melb1970

    Back in Leviticus it called for a lot of strange rules- menstruating women could not prepare meals and had to sleep separate from their husbands. Meat had to be prepared a certain way. You were not to plant the same crop in a field two years in a row.
    Most of these rules laid down in Levitcus actually existed to keep the tribe healthy and prosperous.
    Menstruation in Biblical times was not understood and considered an illness-
    You don’t plant the same crop in a field two years in a row because the crop will deplete the minerals in the soil. ( Farmers do it today only because we have fertilizer)
    Mixed weaves would make a garment more likely to fray and decay ( today’s clothing for example – hell ya can dig a mummy up and it’s still wearing bandages WTF)
    Meat was prepared a certain way and some not eaten at all (pork/salmonella) due to yet again perceived hazards in a developing society.
    Sadly enough stoning gay people in the Old Testament was an attempt to weed out the weak in the tribe. Gay people in those days could not reproduce and in their elder years would be nothing but a drain on the tribe- no children to take them in.

    As we know Iran still stones gay people and well the Bible has nothing to do with it.

    Several Christian denominations have embraced the homosexual community- you have gay/lesbian pastors in the Lutheran and Methodists faith here in my town.

    The Bible is 2000 years old has been translated from the ancient Hebrew text at least that many times- think about it.

  • Anonymous

    ” As we know Iran still stones gay people and well the Bible has nothing to do with it. “I’ve said before what I’ll say again: one fundamentalist religion looks much like another. This is in part (but only in part) because the “holy texts” in question share many of the same sources. And partly due to the fact that religion was not just instutionalized and developed over fears of pork or menstruation or clothes of mixed fibers or weakness in society or what have you. Much of it developed–and developed in tandem with laws de jure, or human laws–to do less understandable things like enslave people, oppress women, and gain power and goods for certain parties. Sorry if that’s cynical, but it’s absolutely true. There is no reason for a patriarchal system at all except hat it’s freaky for men not to know that they are the father’s of the children women give birth to; controlling that was always part of the game.”The Bible is 2000 years old has been translated from the ancient Hebrew text at least that many times- think about it.”It wasn’t all translated from Hebrew, but I get your drift. There’s Aramaic, Greek . . . But yes, I get your drift. Even with the translations, there’s A text and B text. Totally different connotations in each. You have Lilith, you don’t have Lilith. And so forth. And, you know, the word in the modern Bible about man having dominion over earth & animals, well, that’s an outright mistranslation of the anciet Hebrew: man/humans as wise caretaker & kind steward. Yeppers. And, hell, that’s just Genesis. The whole thing is a big fat mess.

  • Anonymous

    ” As we know Iran still stones gay people and well the Bible has nothing to do with it. “I’ve said before what I’ll say again: one fundamentalist religion looks much like another. This is in part (but only in part) because the “holy texts” in question share many of the same sources. And partly due to the fact that religion was not just instutionalized and developed over fears of pork or menstruation or clothes of mixed fibers or weakness in society or what have you. Much of it developed–and developed in tandem with laws de jure, or human laws–to do less understandable things like enslave people, oppress women, and gain power and goods for certain parties. Sorry if that’s cynical, but it’s absolutely true. There is no reason for a patriarchal system at all except hat it’s freaky for men not to know that they are the father’s of the children women give birth to; controlling that was always part of the game.”The Bible is 2000 years old has been translated from the ancient Hebrew text at least that many times- think about it.”It wasn’t all translated from Hebrew, but I get your drift. There’s Aramaic, Greek . . . But yes, I get your drift. Even with the translations, there’s A text and B text. Totally different connotations in each. You have Lilith, you don’t have Lilith. And so forth. And, you know, the word in the modern Bible about man having dominion over earth & animals, well, that’s an outright mistranslation of the anciet Hebrew: man/humans as wise caretaker & kind steward. Yeppers. And, hell, that’s just Genesis. The whole thing is a big fat mess.

  • Anonymous

    Boooooo on that last comment about chrisitians being glad that a little boy died.. I’m a christian and I don’t wish death on gays.. I dont wish death on athiests, muslims, neo-nazis, satanists.. I’m probably pretty slow on getting the news, but I found out today that Christopher Hutchins has cancer and will likely die.. Instead of gloating about him “meeting his maker” or being “Punished for his blasphemy” I was actually heartbroken for him.. I dont like the guy.. I dont like what he has to say about issues that don’t even concern religion.. He’s pompous, he’s arrogant.. but he doesn’t deserve to have cancer.. He doesn’t deserve the suffering he’s enduring right now.. My mother died of cancer last year and Ive seen how much a cancer patient suffers.. Knowing that he doesn’t even have that faith to comfort him in his last days made me cry for him.. No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds..

  • Anonymous

    Boooooo on that last comment about chrisitians being glad that a little boy died.. I’m a christian and I don’t wish death on gays.. I dont wish death on athiests, muslims, neo-nazis, satanists.. I’m probably pretty slow on getting the news, but I found out today that Christopher Hutchins has cancer and will likely die.. Instead of gloating about him “meeting his maker” or being “Punished for his blasphemy” I was actually heartbroken for him.. I dont like the guy.. I dont like what he has to say about issues that don’t even concern religion.. He’s pompous, he’s arrogant.. but he doesn’t deserve to have cancer.. He doesn’t deserve the suffering he’s enduring right now.. My mother died of cancer last year and Ive seen how much a cancer patient suffers.. Knowing that he doesn’t even have that faith to comfort him in his last days made me cry for him.. No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds..

  • Anonymous

    Boooooo on that last comment about chrisitians being glad that a little boy died.. I’m a christian and I don’t wish death on gays.. I dont wish death on athiests, muslims, neo-nazis, satanists.. I’m probably pretty slow on getting the news, but I found out today that Christopher Hutchins has cancer and will likely die.. Instead of gloating about him “meeting his maker” or being “Punished for his blasphemy” I was actually heartbroken for him.. I dont like the guy.. I dont like what he has to say about issues that don’t even concern religion.. He’s pompous, he’s arrogant.. but he doesn’t deserve to have cancer.. He doesn’t deserve the suffering he’s enduring right now.. My mother died of cancer last year and Ive seen how much a cancer patient suffers.. Knowing that he doesn’t even have that faith to comfort him in his last days made me cry for him.. No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds..

  • Anonymous

    Boooooo on that last comment about chrisitians being glad that a little boy died.. I’m a christian and I don’t wish death on gays.. I dont wish death on athiests, muslims, neo-nazis, satanists.. I’m probably pretty slow on getting the news, but I found out today that Christopher Hutchins has cancer and will likely die.. Instead of gloating about him “meeting his maker” or being “Punished for his blasphemy” I was actually heartbroken for him.. I dont like the guy.. I dont like what he has to say about issues that don’t even concern religion.. He’s pompous, he’s arrogant.. but he doesn’t deserve to have cancer.. He doesn’t deserve the suffering he’s enduring right now.. My mother died of cancer last year and Ive seen how much a cancer patient suffers.. Knowing that he doesn’t even have that faith to comfort him in his last days made me cry for him.. No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds..

  • Anonymous

    Boooooo on that last comment about chrisitians being glad that a little boy died.. I’m a christian and I don’t wish death on gays.. I dont wish death on athiests, muslims, neo-nazis, satanists.. I’m probably pretty slow on getting the news, but I found out today that Christopher Hutchins has cancer and will likely die.. Instead of gloating about him “meeting his maker” or being “Punished for his blasphemy” I was actually heartbroken for him.. I dont like the guy.. I dont like what he has to say about issues that don’t even concern religion.. He’s pompous, he’s arrogant.. but he doesn’t deserve to have cancer.. He doesn’t deserve the suffering he’s enduring right now.. My mother died of cancer last year and Ive seen how much a cancer patient suffers.. Knowing that he doesn’t even have that faith to comfort him in his last days made me cry for him.. No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds..

  • Anonymous

    Boooooo on that last comment about chrisitians being glad that a little boy died.. I’m a christian and I don’t wish death on gays.. I dont wish death on athiests, muslims, neo-nazis, satanists.. I’m probably pretty slow on getting the news, but I found out today that Christopher Hutchins has cancer and will likely die.. Instead of gloating about him “meeting his maker” or being “Punished for his blasphemy” I was actually heartbroken for him.. I dont like the guy.. I dont like what he has to say about issues that don’t even concern religion.. He’s pompous, he’s arrogant.. but he doesn’t deserve to have cancer.. He doesn’t deserve the suffering he’s enduring right now.. My mother died of cancer last year and Ive seen how much a cancer patient suffers.. Knowing that he doesn’t even have that faith to comfort him in his last days made me cry for him.. No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry.. christopher Hitchins not Hutchins..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry.. christopher Hitchins not Hutchins..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry.. christopher Hitchins not Hutchins..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry.. christopher Hitchins not Hutchins..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry.. christopher Hitchins not Hutchins..

  • Anonymous

    Sorry.. christopher Hitchins not Hutchins..

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Anonymous

    “No real christian would wish death on a child, gay or not.. or celebrate that death especially if it was by his own hand.. and all the people praising, or agreeing with that statement need to seriously think about how simplistic and ignorant it sounds.”

    Look, I’m glad your take on your religion and the best way to live it is what it is. Jesus would approve. But the only thing that sounds ignorant and simplistic is ignoring the fact that there are “real” Christians who disagree with you. What a “Real” Christian is means different things to different people, as well it would considering the variety of messages imparted by your holy book. That’s just the way it is. I don’t like it, you don’t like it. But it’s still the way it is.

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Where did I ever state Christians wished death on this kid?

  • Anonymous

    Yes and what really amazes me is that people really actually do. ;-]

  • Anonymous

    Yes and what really amazes me is that people really actually do. ;-]

  • melb1970

    ” Much of it developed–and developed in tandem with laws de jure, or human laws–to do less understandable things like enslave people, oppress women, and gain power and goods for certain parties. Sorry if that’s cynical, but it’s absolutely true. ”
    Not cynical very true- like I said to make the tribe prosperous.
    The wild thing is you’d be hard pressed to find a civilization anywhere in history that didn’t embrace some form of faith.
    Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?
    Faith unified people allowed cities to be built and societies to flourish.
    Mayans, Inca’s, Aztecs, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Druids- the American Indian, Greece and Rome even had their own deities,just a thought

  • melb1970

    ” Much of it developed–and developed in tandem with laws de jure, or human laws–to do less understandable things like enslave people, oppress women, and gain power and goods for certain parties. Sorry if that’s cynical, but it’s absolutely true. ”
    Not cynical very true- like I said to make the tribe prosperous.
    The wild thing is you’d be hard pressed to find a civilization anywhere in history that didn’t embrace some form of faith.
    Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?
    Faith unified people allowed cities to be built and societies to flourish.
    Mayans, Inca’s, Aztecs, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Druids- the American Indian, Greece and Rome even had their own deities,just a thought

  • melb1970

    ” Much of it developed–and developed in tandem with laws de jure, or human laws–to do less understandable things like enslave people, oppress women, and gain power and goods for certain parties. Sorry if that’s cynical, but it’s absolutely true. ”
    Not cynical very true- like I said to make the tribe prosperous.
    The wild thing is you’d be hard pressed to find a civilization anywhere in history that didn’t embrace some form of faith.
    Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?
    Faith unified people allowed cities to be built and societies to flourish.
    Mayans, Inca’s, Aztecs, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Druids- the American Indian, Greece and Rome even had their own deities,just a thought

  • melb1970

    ” Much of it developed–and developed in tandem with laws de jure, or human laws–to do less understandable things like enslave people, oppress women, and gain power and goods for certain parties. Sorry if that’s cynical, but it’s absolutely true. ”
    Not cynical very true- like I said to make the tribe prosperous.
    The wild thing is you’d be hard pressed to find a civilization anywhere in history that didn’t embrace some form of faith.
    Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?
    Faith unified people allowed cities to be built and societies to flourish.
    Mayans, Inca’s, Aztecs, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Druids- the American Indian, Greece and Rome even had their own deities,just a thought

  • melb1970

    This whole thread has kinda got me confused-
    Are we allowed to bash on any religion that treats homosexuals harshly?
    Or just Christians?
    Cause the most glaringly obvious offender when it comes to LGBT rights doesn’t carry a Bible.

  • melb1970

    This whole thread has kinda got me confused-
    Are we allowed to bash on any religion that treats homosexuals harshly?
    Or just Christians?
    Cause the most glaringly obvious offender when it comes to LGBT rights doesn’t carry a Bible.

  • melb1970

    This whole thread has kinda got me confused-
    Are we allowed to bash on any religion that treats homosexuals harshly?
    Or just Christians?
    Cause the most glaringly obvious offender when it comes to LGBT rights doesn’t carry a Bible.

  • melb1970

    This whole thread has kinda got me confused-
    Are we allowed to bash on any religion that treats homosexuals harshly?
    Or just Christians?
    Cause the most glaringly obvious offender when it comes to LGBT rights doesn’t carry a Bible.

  • Athena

    First off, I would NEVER intentionally downplay a candidate’s stance to make myself feel better and, coming from you, I kind of resent that insinuation. I was legitimately unaware, probably because I researched his other platforms more rigorously, I suppose. Just like some were blinded by the hope Obama presented, I was pretty wowed by a Libertarian candidate. I had no idea he favored a Constitutional amendment. Had I realized this, I wouldn’t have supported him (although I voted for Obama, so it’s a non-issue, I suppose). Reproductive rights = Equality. I’m more aggressively pro-choice than anyone I know. A woman wants to use drugs while pregnant? Her choice. A woman wants to abort a day before her due-date? Her choice. No, I was, for once, under-informed.

    As for the rest of it, you’re substantially more liberal than I am; you see deregulation as the cause of our current woes while I see personal irresponsibility combined with generous government subsidy to be the usual suspect (and history supports my stance). We’re x100 more regulated than we were during the Great Depression, or since many of the recessions that have followed. We keep tacking on more and more and more regulation, and, did it save us? NO. Because regulation will never save us when it’s written by individuals bought and paid for by the industries they’re “regulating”. Look at Obama’s corporate sponsors. They’re the same as Hilary’s and McCain’s. The special interests hedge their bets, and this will be the case for as long as regulation can be written to favor the industry it’s meant to restrict.

    So, yeah, I say deregulate (not entirely, of course, but in many respects), and do away with moronic concepts as “too big to fail”. Why should we be spared the consequence of our irresponsible ways? On average, Americans went IN TO the recession carrying $8,000 in debt per household. That’s debt they racked up when times were GOOD. If we can’t learn from our mistakes (personal debt caused the Great Depression, too), let us suffer. This belief that we can and should stave off the consequence only serves to perpetuate the mistakes. Economies will recover more and more slowly every time. We’re already looking at a slower recovery than after 9/11, and the next will be even slower.

    Do you know why Japan’s economy took so long to crawl out of? Because of all the government subsidized industry, there. Because they continually try to prop up industry that deserves to fail.

    When I look to blame people for our current recession – while there’s more than one source owed the blame – I primarily look to the average Joe around me. I read a statistic stating than less than 5% of foreclosures were due to predatory lending. That means the other 95% were due to individuals who are the innocent victims of circumstance or, more overwhelmingly, greedy FUCKS who wanted to get something for nothing (my husband is a general contractor – I’ve met dozens of these). Ignorance is no defense! Read your fucking contracts.

    And, yeah, we should all be paying lower taxes. The government should quit spending like they stole daddy’s credit card for the weekend. And deregulation of health care? Do you understand WHY health care costs continue to rise to such a degree? Because 3/4 of Americans don’t look for the lowest costs. Thanks to regulation, they CAN’T, in many cases. They are limited to their networks. This is why retail clinics are outscoring ERs and doctor’s offices, in many cases. True competition still applies, and true competition is creating low-cost, effective health care.

    I could go on and on. But I won’t. I’m watching Food, Inc. After this is, The Union. You are an intelligent woman, and we can agree on a number of issues. Economics isn’t one of them, though. 🙂

  • Athena

    First off, I would NEVER intentionally downplay a candidate’s stance to make myself feel better and, coming from you, I kind of resent that insinuation. I was legitimately unaware, probably because I researched his other platforms more rigorously, I suppose. Just like some were blinded by the hope Obama presented, I was pretty wowed by a Libertarian candidate. I had no idea he favored a Constitutional amendment. Had I realized this, I wouldn’t have supported him (although I voted for Obama, so it’s a non-issue, I suppose). Reproductive rights = Equality. I’m more aggressively pro-choice than anyone I know. A woman wants to use drugs while pregnant? Her choice. A woman wants to abort a day before her due-date? Her choice. No, I was, for once, under-informed.

    As for the rest of it, you’re substantially more liberal than I am; you see deregulation as the cause of our current woes while I see personal irresponsibility combined with generous government subsidy to be the usual suspect (and history supports my stance). We’re x100 more regulated than we were during the Great Depression, or since many of the recessions that have followed. We keep tacking on more and more and more regulation, and, did it save us? NO. Because regulation will never save us when it’s written by individuals bought and paid for by the industries they’re “regulating”. Look at Obama’s corporate sponsors. They’re the same as Hilary’s and McCain’s. The special interests hedge their bets, and this will be the case for as long as regulation can be written to favor the industry it’s meant to restrict.

    So, yeah, I say deregulate (not entirely, of course, but in many respects), and do away with moronic concepts as “too big to fail”. Why should we be spared the consequence of our irresponsible ways? On average, Americans went IN TO the recession carrying $8,000 in debt per household. That’s debt they racked up when times were GOOD. If we can’t learn from our mistakes (personal debt caused the Great Depression, too), let us suffer. This belief that we can and should stave off the consequence only serves to perpetuate the mistakes. Economies will recover more and more slowly every time. We’re already looking at a slower recovery than after 9/11, and the next will be even slower.

    Do you know why Japan’s economy took so long to crawl out of? Because of all the government subsidized industry, there. Because they continually try to prop up industry that deserves to fail.

    When I look to blame people for our current recession – while there’s more than one source owed the blame – I primarily look to the average Joe around me. I read a statistic stating than less than 5% of foreclosures were due to predatory lending. That means the other 95% were due to individuals who are the innocent victims of circumstance or, more overwhelmingly, greedy FUCKS who wanted to get something for nothing (my husband is a general contractor – I’ve met dozens of these). Ignorance is no defense! Read your fucking contracts.

    And, yeah, we should all be paying lower taxes. The government should quit spending like they stole daddy’s credit card for the weekend. And deregulation of health care? Do you understand WHY health care costs continue to rise to such a degree? Because 3/4 of Americans don’t look for the lowest costs. Thanks to regulation, they CAN’T, in many cases. They are limited to their networks. This is why retail clinics are outscoring ERs and doctor’s offices, in many cases. True competition still applies, and true competition is creating low-cost, effective health care.

    I could go on and on. But I won’t. I’m watching Food, Inc. After this is, The Union. You are an intelligent woman, and we can agree on a number of issues. Economics isn’t one of them, though. 🙂

  • Athena

    First off, I would NEVER intentionally downplay a candidate’s stance to make myself feel better and, coming from you, I kind of resent that insinuation. I was legitimately unaware, probably because I researched his other platforms more rigorously, I suppose. Just like some were blinded by the hope Obama presented, I was pretty wowed by a Libertarian candidate. I had no idea he favored a Constitutional amendment. Had I realized this, I wouldn’t have supported him (although I voted for Obama, so it’s a non-issue, I suppose). Reproductive rights = Equality. I’m more aggressively pro-choice than anyone I know. A woman wants to use drugs while pregnant? Her choice. A woman wants to abort a day before her due-date? Her choice. No, I was, for once, under-informed.

    As for the rest of it, you’re substantially more liberal than I am; you see deregulation as the cause of our current woes while I see personal irresponsibility combined with generous government subsidy to be the usual suspect (and history supports my stance). We’re x100 more regulated than we were during the Great Depression, or since many of the recessions that have followed. We keep tacking on more and more and more regulation, and, did it save us? NO. Because regulation will never save us when it’s written by individuals bought and paid for by the industries they’re “regulating”. Look at Obama’s corporate sponsors. They’re the same as Hilary’s and McCain’s. The special interests hedge their bets, and this will be the case for as long as regulation can be written to favor the industry it’s meant to restrict.

    So, yeah, I say deregulate (not entirely, of course, but in many respects), and do away with moronic concepts as “too big to fail”. Why should we be spared the consequence of our irresponsible ways? On average, Americans went IN TO the recession carrying $8,000 in debt per household. That’s debt they racked up when times were GOOD. If we can’t learn from our mistakes (personal debt caused the Great Depression, too), let us suffer. This belief that we can and should stave off the consequence only serves to perpetuate the mistakes. Economies will recover more and more slowly every time. We’re already looking at a slower recovery than after 9/11, and the next will be even slower.

    Do you know why Japan’s economy took so long to crawl out of? Because of all the government subsidized industry, there. Because they continually try to prop up industry that deserves to fail.

    When I look to blame people for our current recession – while there’s more than one source owed the blame – I primarily look to the average Joe around me. I read a statistic stating than less than 5% of foreclosures were due to predatory lending. That means the other 95% were due to individuals who are the innocent victims of circumstance or, more overwhelmingly, greedy FUCKS who wanted to get something for nothing (my husband is a general contractor – I’ve met dozens of these). Ignorance is no defense! Read your fucking contracts.

    And, yeah, we should all be paying lower taxes. The government should quit spending like they stole daddy’s credit card for the weekend. And deregulation of health care? Do you understand WHY health care costs continue to rise to such a degree? Because 3/4 of Americans don’t look for the lowest costs. Thanks to regulation, they CAN’T, in many cases. They are limited to their networks. This is why retail clinics are outscoring ERs and doctor’s offices, in many cases. True competition still applies, and true competition is creating low-cost, effective health care.

    I could go on and on. But I won’t. I’m watching Food, Inc. After this is, The Union. You are an intelligent woman, and we can agree on a number of issues. Economics isn’t one of them, though. 🙂

  • Athena

    First off, I would NEVER intentionally downplay a candidate’s stance to make myself feel better and, coming from you, I kind of resent that insinuation. I was legitimately unaware, probably because I researched his other platforms more rigorously, I suppose. Just like some were blinded by the hope Obama presented, I was pretty wowed by a Libertarian candidate. I had no idea he favored a Constitutional amendment. Had I realized this, I wouldn’t have supported him (although I voted for Obama, so it’s a non-issue, I suppose). Reproductive rights = Equality. I’m more aggressively pro-choice than anyone I know. A woman wants to use drugs while pregnant? Her choice. A woman wants to abort a day before her due-date? Her choice. No, I was, for once, under-informed.

    As for the rest of it, you’re substantially more liberal than I am; you see deregulation as the cause of our current woes while I see personal irresponsibility combined with generous government subsidy to be the usual suspect (and history supports my stance). We’re x100 more regulated than we were during the Great Depression, or since many of the recessions that have followed. We keep tacking on more and more and more regulation, and, did it save us? NO. Because regulation will never save us when it’s written by individuals bought and paid for by the industries they’re “regulating”. Look at Obama’s corporate sponsors. They’re the same as Hilary’s and McCain’s. The special interests hedge their bets, and this will be the case for as long as regulation can be written to favor the industry it’s meant to restrict.

    So, yeah, I say deregulate (not entirely, of course, but in many respects), and do away with moronic concepts as “too big to fail”. Why should we be spared the consequence of our irresponsible ways? On average, Americans went IN TO the recession carrying $8,000 in debt per household. That’s debt they racked up when times were GOOD. If we can’t learn from our mistakes (personal debt caused the Great Depression, too), let us suffer. This belief that we can and should stave off the consequence only serves to perpetuate the mistakes. Economies will recover more and more slowly every time. We’re already looking at a slower recovery than after 9/11, and the next will be even slower.

    Do you know why Japan’s economy took so long to crawl out of? Because of all the government subsidized industry, there. Because they continually try to prop up industry that deserves to fail.

    When I look to blame people for our current recession – while there’s more than one source owed the blame – I primarily look to the average Joe around me. I read a statistic stating than less than 5% of foreclosures were due to predatory lending. That means the other 95% were due to individuals who are the innocent victims of circumstance or, more overwhelmingly, greedy FUCKS who wanted to get something for nothing (my husband is a general contractor – I’ve met dozens of these). Ignorance is no defense! Read your fucking contracts.

    And, yeah, we should all be paying lower taxes. The government should quit spending like they stole daddy’s credit card for the weekend. And deregulation of health care? Do you understand WHY health care costs continue to rise to such a degree? Because 3/4 of Americans don’t look for the lowest costs. Thanks to regulation, they CAN’T, in many cases. They are limited to their networks. This is why retail clinics are outscoring ERs and doctor’s offices, in many cases. True competition still applies, and true competition is creating low-cost, effective health care.

    I could go on and on. But I won’t. I’m watching Food, Inc. After this is, The Union. You are an intelligent woman, and we can agree on a number of issues. Economics isn’t one of them, though. 🙂

  • Athena

    First off, I would NEVER intentionally downplay a candidate’s stance to make myself feel better and, coming from you, I kind of resent that insinuation. I was legitimately unaware, probably because I researched his other platforms more rigorously, I suppose. Just like some were blinded by the hope Obama presented, I was pretty wowed by a Libertarian candidate. I had no idea he favored a Constitutional amendment. Had I realized this, I wouldn’t have supported him (although I voted for Obama, so it’s a non-issue, I suppose). Reproductive rights = Equality. I’m more aggressively pro-choice than anyone I know. A woman wants to use drugs while pregnant? Her choice. A woman wants to abort a day before her due-date? Her choice. No, I was, for once, under-informed.

    As for the rest of it, you’re substantially more liberal than I am; you see deregulation as the cause of our current woes while I see personal irresponsibility combined with generous government subsidy to be the usual suspect (and history supports my stance). We’re x100 more regulated than we were during the Great Depression, or since many of the recessions that have followed. We keep tacking on more and more and more regulation, and, did it save us? NO. Because regulation will never save us when it’s written by individuals bought and paid for by the industries they’re “regulating”. Look at Obama’s corporate sponsors. They’re the same as Hilary’s and McCain’s. The special interests hedge their bets, and this will be the case for as long as regulation can be written to favor the industry it’s meant to restrict.

    So, yeah, I say deregulate (not entirely, of course, but in many respects), and do away with moronic concepts as “too big to fail”. Why should we be spared the consequence of our irresponsible ways? On average, Americans went IN TO the recession carrying $8,000 in debt per household. That’s debt they racked up when times were GOOD. If we can’t learn from our mistakes (personal debt caused the Great Depression, too), let us suffer. This belief that we can and should stave off the consequence only serves to perpetuate the mistakes. Economies will recover more and more slowly every time. We’re already looking at a slower recovery than after 9/11, and the next will be even slower.

    Do you know why Japan’s economy took so long to crawl out of? Because of all the government subsidized industry, there. Because they continually try to prop up industry that deserves to fail.

    When I look to blame people for our current recession – while there’s more than one source owed the blame – I primarily look to the average Joe around me. I read a statistic stating than less than 5% of foreclosures were due to predatory lending. That means the other 95% were due to individuals who are the innocent victims of circumstance or, more overwhelmingly, greedy FUCKS who wanted to get something for nothing (my husband is a general contractor – I’ve met dozens of these). Ignorance is no defense! Read your fucking contracts.

    And, yeah, we should all be paying lower taxes. The government should quit spending like they stole daddy’s credit card for the weekend. And deregulation of health care? Do you understand WHY health care costs continue to rise to such a degree? Because 3/4 of Americans don’t look for the lowest costs. Thanks to regulation, they CAN’T, in many cases. They are limited to their networks. This is why retail clinics are outscoring ERs and doctor’s offices, in many cases. True competition still applies, and true competition is creating low-cost, effective health care.

    I could go on and on. But I won’t. I’m watching Food, Inc. After this is, The Union. You are an intelligent woman, and we can agree on a number of issues. Economics isn’t one of them, though. 🙂

  • Athena

    “Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?”

    Because it was a biological evolution in response to man realizing his own mortality. Read The God Part of the Brain. If you want to message me your address, I’ll even send it to you, free of cost. The man who wrote it is impossibly pretentious, but he builds a ridiculously solid case.

  • Athena

    “Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?”

    Because it was a biological evolution in response to man realizing his own mortality. Read The God Part of the Brain. If you want to message me your address, I’ll even send it to you, free of cost. The man who wrote it is impossibly pretentious, but he builds a ridiculously solid case.

  • Athena

    “Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?”

    Because it was a biological evolution in response to man realizing his own mortality. Read The God Part of the Brain. If you want to message me your address, I’ll even send it to you, free of cost. The man who wrote it is impossibly pretentious, but he builds a ridiculously solid case.

  • Athena

    “Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?”

    Because it was a biological evolution in response to man realizing his own mortality. Read The God Part of the Brain. If you want to message me your address, I’ll even send it to you, free of cost. The man who wrote it is impossibly pretentious, but he builds a ridiculously solid case.

  • Athena

    “Faiths developed in different parts of the world at different times even in the most remote of regions, why?”

    Because it was a biological evolution in response to man realizing his own mortality. Read The God Part of the Brain. If you want to message me your address, I’ll even send it to you, free of cost. The man who wrote it is impossibly pretentious, but he builds a ridiculously solid case.

  • Athena

    In America, he absolutely carries a Bible.

    Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of dollars the Catholic and Mormon churches contributed to the effort to overturn gay marriage in California?

    Right now, the single biggest threat to gay rights in America is Christianity (and variations thereof). If you want to expand the argument to include those stoning and executing gays in Africa, the Middle East, etc., you’re more than welcome to. You’ll find many supporters, here, including myself.

    Religions – all of them – are useless, archaic superstitions that, in the current climate, primarily work to oppress others. In my perfect world, people wouldn’t need the promise of an afterlife to be decent people, and they wouldn’t feel the need to hide behind a book in their attempt to control others.

    …but my world is that of an intellectual atheist, and America continues to prove they have no interest in that, no matter how equitable and productive it may be.

  • Athena

    In America, he absolutely carries a Bible.

    Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of dollars the Catholic and Mormon churches contributed to the effort to overturn gay marriage in California?

    Right now, the single biggest threat to gay rights in America is Christianity (and variations thereof). If you want to expand the argument to include those stoning and executing gays in Africa, the Middle East, etc., you’re more than welcome to. You’ll find many supporters, here, including myself.

    Religions – all of them – are useless, archaic superstitions that, in the current climate, primarily work to oppress others. In my perfect world, people wouldn’t need the promise of an afterlife to be decent people, and they wouldn’t feel the need to hide behind a book in their attempt to control others.

    …but my world is that of an intellectual atheist, and America continues to prove they have no interest in that, no matter how equitable and productive it may be.

  • Athena

    In America, he absolutely carries a Bible.

    Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of dollars the Catholic and Mormon churches contributed to the effort to overturn gay marriage in California?

    Right now, the single biggest threat to gay rights in America is Christianity (and variations thereof). If you want to expand the argument to include those stoning and executing gays in Africa, the Middle East, etc., you’re more than welcome to. You’ll find many supporters, here, including myself.

    Religions – all of them – are useless, archaic superstitions that, in the current climate, primarily work to oppress others. In my perfect world, people wouldn’t need the promise of an afterlife to be decent people, and they wouldn’t feel the need to hide behind a book in their attempt to control others.

    …but my world is that of an intellectual atheist, and America continues to prove they have no interest in that, no matter how equitable and productive it may be.

  • Athena

    In America, he absolutely carries a Bible.

    Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of dollars the Catholic and Mormon churches contributed to the effort to overturn gay marriage in California?

    Right now, the single biggest threat to gay rights in America is Christianity (and variations thereof). If you want to expand the argument to include those stoning and executing gays in Africa, the Middle East, etc., you’re more than welcome to. You’ll find many supporters, here, including myself.

    Religions – all of them – are useless, archaic superstitions that, in the current climate, primarily work to oppress others. In my perfect world, people wouldn’t need the promise of an afterlife to be decent people, and they wouldn’t feel the need to hide behind a book in their attempt to control others.

    …but my world is that of an intellectual atheist, and America continues to prove they have no interest in that, no matter how equitable and productive it may be.

  • Athena

    In America, he absolutely carries a Bible.

    Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of dollars the Catholic and Mormon churches contributed to the effort to overturn gay marriage in California?

    Right now, the single biggest threat to gay rights in America is Christianity (and variations thereof). If you want to expand the argument to include those stoning and executing gays in Africa, the Middle East, etc., you’re more than welcome to. You’ll find many supporters, here, including myself.

    Religions – all of them – are useless, archaic superstitions that, in the current climate, primarily work to oppress others. In my perfect world, people wouldn’t need the promise of an afterlife to be decent people, and they wouldn’t feel the need to hide behind a book in their attempt to control others.

    …but my world is that of an intellectual atheist, and America continues to prove they have no interest in that, no matter how equitable and productive it may be.

  • Athena

    In America, he absolutely carries a Bible.

    Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of dollars the Catholic and Mormon churches contributed to the effort to overturn gay marriage in California?

    Right now, the single biggest threat to gay rights in America is Christianity (and variations thereof). If you want to expand the argument to include those stoning and executing gays in Africa, the Middle East, etc., you’re more than welcome to. You’ll find many supporters, here, including myself.

    Religions – all of them – are useless, archaic superstitions that, in the current climate, primarily work to oppress others. In my perfect world, people wouldn’t need the promise of an afterlife to be decent people, and they wouldn’t feel the need to hide behind a book in their attempt to control others.

    …but my world is that of an intellectual atheist, and America continues to prove they have no interest in that, no matter how equitable and productive it may be.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be glad to bash any and all religions.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be glad to bash any and all religions.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be glad to bash any and all religions.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be glad to bash any and all religions.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be glad to bash any and all religions.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because there are quite a few suckers born every minute, and always have been.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because there are quite a few suckers born every minute, and always have been.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because there are quite a few suckers born every minute, and always have been.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because there are quite a few suckers born every minute, and always have been.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because there are quite a few suckers born every minute, and always have been.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because there are quite a few suckers born every minute, and always have been.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because there are quite a few suckers born every minute, and always have been.

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • lisaznola

    I had to go back to the top and re read the article.No one said the kid was gay, just that he got teased and called a fag.If you read up on it, some say he had been teased for years, he thought the new school would be a chance to start over. It was not, the teasing followed him. If was teased for years, I am guessing it really was not about sexuality. A young man killed himself due to years of abuse.It is not human rights politics, it is not any / all religion, it is about a victim.Sometimes personal agendas take over on this site and really take on a life of their own.I almost had to giggle when I was reading about political abortion agendas on a thread about a boy killing himself for being teased as a homosexual.>think about it<Also, I have many friends that are 1) Gay. 2) Christian. 3) Gay Christians.Remember that the King James Bible is NOT the only interpretation.Also, Catholic is a sect of Christianity, it does not represent all Christians. I come here to honor victims and throw (virtual) stones at offenders, not to scream hate at others even if they are blinded by some light, as long as they are not violating or hurting others.
    I will say, though, it does speak so much on this poor boy and his family that he was so insecure and possibly disassociated so much from the homosexual community that he killed himself.
    ?
    OR
    (More Likely)
    The teasing went MUCH further than just calling him “fag”.
    ?

  • Anonymous

    Sorry you were offended, but you typically seem to try to research things thoroughly. I assumed you would have done so with a presidential candidate you were interested in. And, since you are, as you say, pro-choice, I couldn’t think of any other reason for you to have made the statement that you made. So, uh, sorry if my expectation was wrong, but, yes, I expected you had looked into and thus knew what you were talking about when you made a definitive statement to Shadow (if you resent that I had this expectation, I don’t really know what to say).

    I’m not sure what to say about your read on Japan’s recession. Japan did not spend to stimulate. That’s my understanding.

    As for taxes, nope, I don’t agree we should all pay lower taxes. I don’t agree that the rich should. When you’re talking about government spending, there is legitimate spending and illegitimate spending. We need decent public schools, roads that aren’t full of holes, rehab programs, immunizations for poor children, stoplights that work. As for the recession, it’s not a disconnected issue. One major thing you can look to is the Bush tax cuts for the top 2%. THAT is the kind of “spending” that is bad.

    As for healthcare, I actually feel that you’re in a sort of thought-loop in which I can’t actually debate with you. My short answer is simply: getting rid of insurance companies and instituting a single-payer system is the road to low healthcare costs.

  • melb1970

    I absolutely agree that people should not need the promise of a better afterlife to be decent people. Quite frankly, I don’t believe in the afterlife stuff and would prefer just to rot away blissfully into nothingness after death. Not and atheist just believe that there is indeed something bigger than mankind in charge. What or who can’t say.
    Some Christians may work hard to oppress the LGBT movement then you have Christians that have created entire missions to feed, clothe and house the less fortunate all over the world. The Christian community is one of (if not the first) to mobilize after a catastrophe collecting and distributing humanitarian aide.
    They ain’t all bad but there’s quite a few that would be well served to actually do what Jesus would do.

  • melb1970

    That book sounds right up my alley- I’m at a loss as to how to message tho so sad.

  • I must be a very rare bird, because even though I was bullied mercilessly (for being GLBT), I never contemplated suicide–homicide, definitely, but not suicide.Poor kid. He looked like Justin(?) from Ugly Betty.

    Also, this is a good page for info on his story:

    http://druzifer.livejournal.com/395446.html

  • Josie

    i live in greensburg, billy was 2 years older than me but we went to school together last year, everyone tormented him, he recieved threats every day. Why bully someone because theyre gay, even though billy wasn’t gay. Greensburg highschool is having people speak at the school about teen suicides and gay bullying, and i hope it helps!

  • G.G.

    Not all Christains are like that.

    It’s like saying all athiests are the worse people in the world and are very evil.

  • tall-e

    these people that call themselves christians and say they hate gays arent real christians, The bible teaches to love everyone no matter what. People are twisting other parts of the bible to suit them and thats wrong.

  • Well now that’s not really true. The Bible has many. many instances in which God’s followers are instructed to kill people for a variety of different, asinine reasons. It’s not just the fact that people twist parts of the Bible to fit their own evil deeds, it’s also the fact that others like to cherry pick just the good portions of the Bible acting as if those other parts don’t exist.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry, but you don’t seem to know the bible very well. Common problem, alas. You ignoring Deuteronomy and Leviticus, picking and choosing from the Bible at will, is exactly the same as what’s being done those fellow Christians of yours whom you’re condemning.

  • Anonymous

    The comment of leaving it to Christians is immensely immature and just sounds like a personal agenda between the writer and religion. Being a Christian is to be in Christ. Not to judge or concern yourself of who made what decisions and whether they deserve heaven or not. All judgment belongs to God. No matter what his sexual orientation was… sorrow and sadness is all you can feel because he believed suicide was the only answer. I hope that people can take one minute and come to the realization that religion is not what you need to have that personal relationship with Christ, surrender and faith and accepting a free gift of salvation and forgiveness is what’s needed for that. Relics, routines, Mary nor compromise will save you, He said it…I am the way the truth and the life. My heart goes out to the families dealing with this tragedy, I pray that God’s hand is felt over them, with his love and strength. For those “burned” by religion, give up religion and pick up Christ, He will not let you down. He loves you and all those who truly dwell in his spirit love you as well. Human made disasters by those in Leadership are responsible for their actions, the Bible is our manual if followed and not dissected to fit what they want all this bitterness would be squashed.

  • Gore Lando

    shut the fuck up

  • AliceinChainsman =]

    lol lynching darkies..haa haa

  • AliceinChainsman =]

    lol lynching darkies..haa haa

  • AliceinChainsman =]

    beware of crips and scientologists teaming up…