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Apex, NC – More Taser controversy after a a fight between students at Westlake Middle School ended with a girl getting tased. The girl was choking a significantly smaller boy and refusing commands to let go. When the resource officer was unable to physically pry her off the boy, out came the trusty Taser. “He deployed it and immediately it was effective,” Deputy Police Chief Barry Nickalson said. Off course people who were not there to witness the situation feel that the use of the Taser was excessive but Nickalson doesn’t see it that way. “Our victim was basically dangling from being choked,” he said. “The way we see this, is we saved a life yesterday as a result of using this tool. Other techniques were just not effective.” I agree with him. If a kid is choking another and refusing commands from a cop to let go, even when the cop is physically trying to separate them, friggin’ tase ‘em. Obviously it works really well and keeps a cop from either physically hurting a child or using more lethal means. Some of these people who do not agree with the method used should be thanking that cop and focusing their derision at…I don’t know…maybe the parents of the girl that got tased? I’m surprised to see that the ABC poll is showing most people agree.

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  • Anonymous

    I’m wondering if the boy being choked got a taste of the electricity, too? I mean, she was choking him at the time and they were in physical contact, so would some of the the current pass to him, too?

    My vote goes for pepper spraying the girl in this case.

  • Tundratot

    One tried and true means of getting an assailant off a victim is a good old punch to the head of the assailant. How many of the observers would like to see that? And the bruises that would follow? I agree, the taser seems like a good choice under the circumstances.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    The boy would not have felt the shock. And even if he had, that pain ends as soon as the person quits pulling the trigger. Pepper spray is a gift that keeps on giving (I know from first hand experience) and will effect anyone in the nearby area.

  • Sash1186

    I agree the taser seems to be a good choice in this case. Rather take the chance and tase the girl than the boy get hurt because no one could get her off of him in time.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, good to know w/ tazing. I knew that pepper spray travels, but my concern over tazing was for lasting side effects on someone so young. :)

  • Boughtthefarm

    Next week the girl’s parents will be suing the school board.

    Pepper spray is NOT the way to go.

  • angela

    I’m more worried about the lasting effects on the little boy that was being choked to death….the girl would not let go, so I’m less inclined to have concern for her

  • angela

    I’m also wondering what they were fighting about that could have gotten her so pissed that she wouldn’t let go?!

  • Jury

    I would not have used the taser, I would have used my boot.

  • KyFyre

    Not only was the use of the taser appropriate in this instance, she needs to be put in jail on charges of attempted murder. When I was younger there were fights in school, no one tried to strangle each other to death, they used their fist (never any weapons) and either you won and it was done or you got your ass kicked and it was still over. That girl has anger issues and sounds like a ticking time bomb and one day she WILL kill someone. Since her parents apparently never taught her to keep her hands to herself, or got her anger management help, maybe the courts can and will.

  • WryBread

    A Bubbaku: If No Taser …

    Snap dainty finger
    Downward. Screaming starts. Girl drops.
    Breathing boy walks free.

  • Siobhan

    Agreed, completely.

    Quoting the police chief from the source article:

    “[...] “Sometimes people have superhuman strength and that doesn’t necessarily depend on your age or your size or your build,” Nickalson said.

    He says the use-of-force policy at schools for Cary police is no different from the policy they use on the streets.” [...]”

    IMO, she’s fortunate this happened in a school, where there are many authority figures available to help intervene, and that LE now has several disabling weapons to utilize as alternative resorts to avoid as much injury as possible to the suspect and the responding LEO.
    Taking a time trip in the wayback machine to my day, and they’d have taken up their asps/batons as the alternative to shooting the malignant little assailant.

  • Siobhan

    Your eloquence has been greatly missed here on the FP. ;)

  • uvgottabkiddin

    c’mon, she could have killed him and been out of juvie before the ink dried on the paper. TAZE her and her parents, for good measure!

  • uvgottabkiddin

    c’mon, she could have killed him and been out of juvie before the ink dried on the paper. TAZE her and her parents, for good measure!

  • uvgottabkiddin (again)

    and you know a loved one is going to show up telling us how she is a 300 pound 6th grader being bullied by a 70 pound fourth grader or some shit.

    TAZE HER I SAY!

  • uvgottabkiddin (again)

    and you know a loved one is going to show up telling us how she is a 300 pound 6th grader being bullied by a 70 pound fourth grader or some shit.

    TAZE HER I SAY!

  • guillotinegirl

    A few years back a boyfriend gave me a taser for protection. He said I should use it on myself to see what I would be meting out, but instead I just tased him instead. It dropped him like a cheese omelet so I know it worked well.

    This girl is lucky all she got is tased, although it’s more fun to watch people get pepper sprayed since they tend to make a hell of a lot more noise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/edward.hickey Edward Hickey

    Next option was a billy club to the back of the head, I’d rather think this girl had a good clubbing coming.

  • Athena

    “Obviously it works really well and keeps a cop from either physically hurting a child…”

    Um, I’m pretty sure tasing qualifies as the cop physically hurting the girl. ;)

    Some may be surprised to know that, in this case, I fully support the use of the taser. The officer tried to intervene physically FIRST, it sounds like, and only used the taser when those efforts were unsuccessful. That’s how they should be used, in my opinion.

    I’m not anti-taser… I’m anti-taser as the first resort, especially when it involves minors, whose hearts are more susceptible to the damage a taser can potentially cause.

  • Wildheart

    I too have missed the Bubbakus :)

  • Boughtthefarm

    My experience with pepper spray was almost funny. I was in the longest line at Walmart that I have ever been in and I had crap in my cart that I absolutely needed [back to school supplies] or I’d have walked out. I was way past the grocery conveyor belt and pissed that Walmart has 40 effing check out lanes but never more than 6 cashiers operating them and that was before they self check out came along. Anyway, it was the first and only time I have ever been grateful to have to wait in a Walmat check out line. The cashier evidently was screwing someone else’s BF and the other GF got her Peoples to come to her check out line and pepper spray da fuck outta her. There was just a cloud of fumes that fucked up more than a dozen people including a couple who were just strolling by trying to get out of the store. I don’t go to Walmart anymore unless it about 5:00 am.

  • guillotinegirl

    I’m a sadist and I approve this message.

  • Anonymous

    Well why tha hell wouldn’t she let go!? Apparently the kid was being Blankett Jackson-ed (dangling) but from the neck. If he would’ve used physical force he would’ve pobably caused a lot more damaged like that cop that punched that teen girl…

  • Anonymous

    Well why tha hell wouldn’t she let go!? Apparently the kid was being Blankett Jackson-ed (dangling) but from the neck. If he would’ve used physical force he would’ve pobably caused a lot more damaged like that cop that punched that teen girl…

  • Anonymous

    Well why tha hell wouldn’t she let go!? Apparently the kid was being Blankett Jackson-ed (dangling) but from the neck. If he would’ve used physical force he would’ve pobably caused a lot more damaged like that cop that punched that teen girl…

  • Anonymous

    Bwahahahaa!!!! My story isn’t even close to that level of awesome, but I must share.

    I had a college roommate who was a complete dipshit. My boyfriend and I we were hanging out on the sofa watching a movie. She was walking out of the house with a friend, and she pulled pepper spray out of her pocket, aimed it at us, and “accidentally” sprayed it. It was just a tiny bit, but it still sucked, and chased us out of the Living Room. Yeah. that was good times.

  • Anonymous

    Bwahahahaa!!!! My story isn’t even close to that level of awesome, but I must share.

    I had a college roommate who was a complete dipshit. My boyfriend and I we were hanging out on the sofa watching a movie. She was walking out of the house with a friend, and she pulled pepper spray out of her pocket, aimed it at us, and “accidentally” sprayed it. It was just a tiny bit, but it still sucked, and chased us out of the Living Room. Yeah. that was good times.

  • Anonymous

    Even though what she did was wrong, you have to wonder what would make a “little girl” so fricken angry that she’d put someone in a choke hold, and refuse to let go even after an officer told her to stop, and then tried to pry her arms from around the other kid’s neck?? I’m going to have to side with the police on this one though. They did the right thing. Some sort of mental evaluation needs to be done, and pending the results of that this girl either needs punishment (juvinile detention), or hospitalization. One needs to take into consideration that when children (and even though she committed a very adult crime she is still legally and physically a child) do things like this there is usually some sort of underlying situation or condition. Although I do believe that if it’s found that she has some sort of mental/emotional issues she still needs to be held accountable for her actions.

    Rant over.. lol

  • Pyncky

    Hell, I think it should be a law that teenagers should be tased regularly just to get their attention.

    jk…lol

  • Anonymous

    As a parent I would definitely have an opinion about my children being tased. That being said, I completely agree with the police officer’s assessment of this situation. He used progressive force from mild, to moderate, to severe, and only used enough force to peacefully end the threat. I was going to quote someone, but too many people are saying it to flame on person; “I wonder why she did it”. It isn’t the police officer’s job to find out the why. His/her job is to enforce the law.

    “why are you doing that little girl”
    “…”
    “mhmm, and how does that make you feel?”
    “…”
    “Do you think you’re making a good life choice right now?”
    “…”
    “How do you think that boy/girl that you’re choking feels about the whole situation?”
    “…”

    No…
    Step one, say “STOP” in a commanding voice.
    Step two , intervein physically
    Step three, use non-lethal force / call for backup
    Step four, attempt to stall the situation
    Step five, if and ONLY if NO other recourse is available use force up to and including deady force, but ONLY to the amount end the situation.

    The Cop acted in an entirely appropriate manner. My only real concern is, as always, where are the parents. Once again, as a parent I would have an opinion about my child getting tased, but as soon as I learned that she attempted to MURDER another child; tasing would be the absolute least of her worries. C’MON DADS. C’MON MOMS. I would imagine that a majority of y’all don’t read the bible much, but Proverbs 22:6 says “Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it.”

  • Anonymous

    Somehow, I’m not surprised to learn that Morbid has been pepper-sprayed in the past…

  • Anonymous

    “He said I should use it on myself to see what I would be meting out, but I just tased him instead.”

    This is why I love you.

    Of course, I wouldn’t date you or anything. I’m not crazy! :-p

  • http://www.facebook.com/andycarpenterjr Andy Carpenter

    How is the use of a taser “excessive force” when someone is trying to choke the life out of a child? Anyone that thinks that needs their godamn heads examined. Also, while the use of pepper spray is effective the innocent child would have been effected just as much as the abuser, which again makes no sense. Taze the bitch and throw her in jail where she belongs.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Morbid on this.

    I’ve never been pepper sprayed, but I’ve been tear gassed, and the effects of any kind of chemical irritant are unpredictable. They can be incapacitating, even fatal in some cases (severe asthmatics) and on the other hand, they can have almost no effect on some people. Drunks are renowned for their ability to tolerate pepper spray, soem something simple like having a lot of spices in your diet can all but negate the intended effects of OC and tear gas alike.

    A good tasing is much more predictable.

  • http://www.accidentie.com/school-accidents/ School Accident

    oohhhh……thats not the way the students behave like this. Really their teachers should teach them something.

  • elphie

    I would like to know, why schools can use tasers and parents can’t even touch their children. Without the risk of someone calling DHS. I am a parent and I don’t think you should be able to beat the hell out of your child, but you should be able to parent. Yes, I have spanked my kids and guess what they know how to act anywhere they go.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andycarpenterjr Andy Carpenter

    Schools didn’t use the taser, the cops did. Maybe you should try reading the story before making a response.

  • melb1970

    I worked at a car lot and one of the boys in parts dept got a can of pepper spray and sprayed it on one of his co-workers for a heehaw. Damn it was funny the accounting office had to be evacuated as did parts. LMAO

  • melb1970

    I worked at a car lot and one of the boys in parts dept got a can of pepper spray and sprayed it on one of his co-workers for a heehaw. Damn it was funny the accounting office had to be evacuated as did parts. LMAO

  • melb1970

    I worked at a car lot and one of the boys in parts dept got a can of pepper spray and sprayed it on one of his co-workers for a heehaw. Damn it was funny the accounting office had to be evacuated as did parts. LMAO

  • redsunday

    actually tasering can be horrible for you, it affects the heart as well as the brain–

    can give people seizures and fry the heart.

    but in this case, i’d have to say this bitch deserved it.

    i wonder though what that boy did to piss her off so bad…

    and it terms of affecting someone at a young age

    it depends on the voltage he had it sent on….usually with lighter victims less voltage….and plus being young you have a better resistancy to it. she’ll be fine.

  • redsunday

    in this case, i highly doubt they’ll win….i hope the judge has better sense than that.

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