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OSAGE BEACH, Mo. – A 12-year-old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder after first calling his grandmother then calling 911 to report he had just shot his mother and stepfather to death. When police arrived at the couple’s Palace Lane Estates mobile home Monday evening, they found the boy’s mother, Rachael Duncan, and stepfather, Jason Duncan, dead from multiple gunshots. A neighbor reported that the boy had asked to stay at a friend’s house earlier in the day because he said his stepfather was abusing him. When he was told no he replied that he would take care of the problem himself. The boy is a student of School of the Osage and lived at the home with five other children who were not at home at the time of the shooting. There will be a hearing to determine if he will be tried in adult or juvenile court.

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  • malq

    If his father was abusing him, that counts for a lot. I wished I was on that Jury.

  • Mommy0f6

    How in the fuck do you fit 6 children in a trailer!? I have a 3 story,and even that doesn't seem big enough for my 6. I sincerely hope they don't charge this boy as an adult.

  • captaingrumpy

    Firstly,to be a smart arse,”he will be tired in both courts”
    Secondly,I wouldn't mind betting that he had good reason to shoot them. Eight people in a trailer is ridiculous.If he was placed by the childrens welfare dept,then they should have been shot.

  • sheevaa

    I don't know, this seems a little too pat, too fishy. He says he's being abused, is told that he can't stay at a friends, then just like that, shoots up the house??

    Doesn't try other family, or the authorities to check on the abuse? Not saying there might not have actually been abuse, but I'm also not saying this couldn't be the work of an evil little bastard.

  • kreda

    He's 12 exactly what other avenues does he have?! I'm not saying the murder was the best choice but it's a bit illogical to think that he, with possibly bottled up emotions, still a little kid is going to sit and analyze his situation and come to the same solutions that an adult would. Maybe the rest of the “family” is the exact same way.

  • sheevaa

    Could be, we aren't reading about any of them shooting up the family though. I'm not saying there wasn't abuse. However, we've seen plenty of child offenders on this site, so we can't condemn the parents without a scrap of evidence of this abuse. Other than his word, which just popped up right before he shot them.

    He had access to a phone, he knew how to dial 911. It's too bad he didn't do that before he shot them. This might have been able to be prevented.

    I can't believe he couldn't think of any other options to end the abuse besides killing his parents. I'm sorry, but I don't hold to the belief that kids are stupid and don't know anything.

  • XenMojo

    I'm betting this was probably one of those instances where a young mind just 'snaps'. If he was in fact abused, whatever the abuse was, and however long it went on, that can weigh pretty heavy on a young mind. Hell, on anyone's mind. Until (and if) we get further info on this story, I am going to interpret it as a young boy, abused, who was holding out hope of going to a friends house to get away from it, was told 'no' and just snapped.

    Well, at least until I am proven wrong, and made to look like a fool, which is so often the case. lol

  • honestygone

    I am not about to say that what this 12yr old did , is ok. But, unless you have been in this situation, you don't know what it's like. You can tell family members, then they tell the parents-you get beat. You can tell the school. They want to talk to the parents- you get beat. A 12 yr old is a child. When no one will listen or protect you, where do you go? Run away?- They catch you, you get beat. Who do you call? 911? It becomes adults against a child. Who do you think will get believed? Not all abuse is visible. A practiced abuser goes for areas that won't leave a mark (head, stomach, pulling hair). I lived this life. Ran away 3 times to escape sexual abuse and physical abuse. Put myself in foster homes. Parents were never charged. The only person who tried to help me (a grandmother) was kept away from me.I was gone a year. Where do you think they sent me? BACK TO THE NUTJOBS! So, you all can say he had other choices. I lived it. Adults do not protect children as much as you would like to believe that.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Try him in juvenile court, get him counseling. His crime is horrendous, but he lives in a different world than adults and sees the world different than adults. Had he gone into a 7-11 and shot a clerk while robbing him, then that would be different. But if they are able to prove abuse, then I would consider this a fucked up, 12-year-old's version of self-defense.

  • MABTW

    That is an excellent way to put it.

    If the abuse is proven then the kid is in dire need of help on so many levels. Thankfully, I can not relate to being abused as a child, but I cannot imagine what it would be like to have a parent abuse you directly or to have a parent stand by and watch you be abused and not help you. Personally I think the latter would be much worse.

  • misspriss

    but why'd he kill his mother too ?

  • ItIsWhatItIs

    Just like if its a stepfather… You tell your real father who then wants to talk to your mom and stepfather- you get beat. It's not hard to snap under those circumstances…… I know.

  • sarabei

    I was abused by my mother from about 6-7 years of age. My dad KNEW it and ignored or excused it; the end result was I left home at 14. The WORST I ever thought of doing was hitting or defending myself should my mother attack me once again. Again, I don't rightly care what anyone says, kids ARE smarter than they are given credit for. IF the abuse is proven I can sympathize with the boy a bit more. I need to know the family dynamics, etc. before I make a judgment call. The stepfather hitting him could be nothing more than regular swat on the ass discipline or something much worse. Also, not everyone is blessed with the funds to have huge houses. Snarky comments about their living conditions is uncalled for until we know more about this family. They COULD have been doing the absolute best they could for their family and to provide for them….but as the is DD, they were probably the scum of the Earth…sigh…..

  • http://justiceforcaylee.synthasite.com/ shyloh

    That is what I would like to know. Why the mother if the step dad was abusing him. Kids that age usually accuse the parents of abuse because they cannot do something they want. They tell their friends my parents are mean etc. because they don't like rules.

    Times are tough for everyone. Living conditions are not an excuse to murder.

  • Dobie3504

    Actually I have a possible answer for why the mom was shot. I worked with a guy who had done seventeen years for killing both of his parents. His dad was the abusive one and the only one he intended to kill, but this particular night his mom happened to be the first one in the door and he accidentally shot her. Then, of course, he kind of had to kill his dad or his dad would have killed him. I'm not excusing any of this, just giving a possible scenario for why the mom was shot.

  • ItIsWhatItIs

    OR maybe the mom wouldn't do anything about it and so she was just as bad as the stepfather, in the childs eyes?

  • Smiley

    That's exactly what I was thinking. Assuming the abuse allegations are true, he undoubtedly looked to his mom for help, and if she sided with her man (see it A LOT on here), then yeah, she would be just as bad to him.

  • sheevaa

    Yeah, you don't know me or my situation. You don't have a leg to stand on coming at me in this way.
    I am not going to dish out my personal business here. I will say that I do know what's it's like, and that there are definitely other ways to get out of a bad situation.

    At this point, it's all speculation. It could have been a horrible situation and he didn't try other methods. Or he might have had mental issues and finally snapped.

  • cplkevindheglar

    I will start off with an apology. I am sorry but where in the hell did the kid get the gun in the first place? If it was his parents gun and they were abusing him then they have more than partial responsibility in this madness.

  • Deety

    I know there are kids in situations like what you describe, and I have a lot of sympathy for them. But that doesn't mean that everyone who says they are abused actually is. I have seen both children and adults lie about being abused to garner sympathy, attention, and financial help.

    That's not to say this kid was or wasn't being abused. We have almost nothing to go on except a comment he made right before killing them, and the parents can no longer defend themselves. We need more information before we can reasonably draw any conclusions.

    But you're totally right that adults don't defend children the way we would like to believe they do. Apparently this kid told someone he was being abused, and they did nothing. Whether he was telling the truth or lying, addressing his allegation could have prevented this…

  • Guest420

    Killing is bad . . mmmkay!?

  • Helen

    Being the parent of a 12 year old boy, I can tell you from experience they don't always think before the act. My son as do many children his age have so many new things going on in their body and mind, so instead of thinking things through they make rash decisions and regret those actions. Add in to the effects of a child being abused and you have a time bomb.

  • KyFyre

    This one's a tough one to call. I'd be curious to know more details. Let's face it folks there are abused kids, and then there are kids who say they are abused. To some kids these days being grounded equals abuse in their minds, because it isn't “fair to have their freedoms, games, and toys taken away”. I once heard one of my friends children tell her if she spanked them they'd tell their daddy she was abusing them, and this woman is not abusive to her kids. They just knew daddy and mommy disagreed on how to raise them, their dad let them get away with anything where as mommy would make them behave. I'm not saying this boy wasn't abused, but what if he killed his parents over something that was not actually abuse? I can't remember the boys name now but a few months ago I read of a young teen around 14 that ambushed and killed his parents because he didn't want to do chores, I hope this kid isn't like that one.

  • MAD

    If he was abused, I can kind of understand, if that's not the case though, he should not get a second chance, murder is murder no matter how you dice it. But to kind of give you an idea of how fucked up teenagers can be, here's a fun story….

    My cousin's 13 yr old daughter wanted to spend a lot of her time with her friends, with boys, shopping,,,you know, normal teen stuff. Well, she had school and chores to do and my cousin was always telling her to get that stuff done first then she could go out, but not till midnight(why the hell would you let a 13 yr old out unsupervised that late anyway),,,this little girl's grades started plummeting, come to find out she was skipping school. She got grounded. Well, maybe a week later cops show up to my cousin's house. They arrested her and her husband(the teen's dad). Turns out, at school, she had to go to the guidance counselor to kind of figure out what was going on academically. Well this bright idiot, decided to say she can't concentrate because she's being abused by her more, raped and sodomized by her father. This started a very long ordeal for my cousin. Her daughter was refusing a rape kit and authorities understood because she was “traumatized”, however they eventually started finding holes in her stories. Did the exam and confirmed that not only was she still a virgin, she was making the whole thing up. My cousin, god bless her and her endless patience, forgave her and tried her best to be good to her and help her. At 15 she was knocked up and shacked up with her BF and his parents, she's on her second child now and she's 18, living on welfare and doing nothing useful with her life. The end.

  • Redsaid

    That's about right on. Even frat boys have little impulse control. But gettin abused, and shootin the abusers, sounds ok to me.

  • Coyote

    The family has spoken out and asked that the boy be tried as a juvenile, and given a chance. I sure hope the judge takes this into consideration when deciding this boy’s fate. More at link:

    http://www.kspr.com/news/local/Family-says-they

  • Anonymous

    I have crossed paths with a child that killed his family when he was 12. He intended on killing the mother but his younger brother was there so he killed him too. Supposedly he was abused his whole life and his mother showed favoritism to the brother. She also allowed the brother to abuse him too. One day he just snapped…

  • Oceangirly92

    why the hell didn't the neighbor call for protection??? take him in and at the very least then call places to protect him??

  • Oceangirly92

    yea, um, people make mistakes. think of your mistakes and what if everyone was to hold and judge you for all of it? damn thats what is wrong with this world. everyone judging eachother. maybe if people got some support, encouragement, wisdom and hope perhaps they would become a little better themselves and raise their children a little better. when you speak of them as if they are a nobody because they made intense choices before their time how can You expect them to rise above?? You cant and you dont. all you do is tsk tsk i knew that would happen. AAAARRRRGGGHHH. damn people get a clue. Get this, they make choices that are not ideal because they do not have support in any way. then everyone around them treats them like they are shit what do you expect??? Thank God I had people, even strangers, come up to me and give me thoughtful words of encouragement and wisdom. I think of those people Every Single Day. Without them i might be as bad off as these abusive parents. damn people. 1 just ONE word of encouragment can be all that it takes to change someone's life.