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Houston - Taylor Trostle is a 13-year-old student at Bleyl Middle School who wore a NYPD t-shirt to school recently. At the end of math class, she and some of her friends pretended to be cops with Trostle complementing the activity with the tried and true method of using the “Pew! Pew!” finger gun (I would have used “Pow! Pow!” but if you watch the video, she clearly used the “Pew! Pew!” technique…probably because she is a girl). She claims she was “shooting” markers on the board at the front of the class, but her teacher sent her to the principal’s office where Trostle was charged with…ready for it? Making terroristic threats. The teacher says that the finger gun was aimed at her and she was in fear for her life. According to Cy-Fair ISD’s code of conduct, a terroristic threat is a level four violation, which is on par with assault, public lewdness, or selling alcohol or drugs at school. Since the charge falls under the zero tolerance policy, the honor role student was suspended for three days, has one hell of a mark on her school record and is being harassed by her schoolmates. Her parents are rightfully upset. “I mean, terroristic threat, to me that’s a serious statement,” said Taylor’s mother. “That’s one of the most serious things you could say to somebody.”

You know, my kid fell victim to this zero tolerance bullshit back when he was in the 6th-grade. One of his friends let him hold a house key which he then bent into an “L” shape. They bent it back normal, but it still looked fucked up. The kid’s mother saw the key and asked him what happened to it and he stated his friend had bent it in class but that it still worked fine. But this mother wasn’t having it and called the school the next morning and informed them of what had happened. Long story short? My kid, an honor student, got suspended for three days for vandalism. There wasn’t a damn thing we could do about it, either. Even the principal felt like an ass, but her hands where tied as well with these stupid ass guidelines and zero-tolerance crap. No longer do educators treat a situation by determining the context, the students involved, and using their goddamn brain.

In a lot of cases,  disciplinary measures are decided on by an A = B methodology as laid out in a student handbook. It’s asinine that bullying can continue to go on in schools until some chick hangs herself or some dude pops off a few rounds in a cafeteria – but elsewhere in these same schools, you have people getting suspended for writing on a desk.  I Any teachers out there? Chime in…would love to hear your thoughts.

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  • Tundratot

    Sometimes I think enterprising kids might be going for the suspension. After all, they get 3 days off. Who wouldn't want that?

    As to the harassment of her schoolmates, I doubt it amounts to more than tongue-in-cheek name calling like “terrorist” — I mean, can they really be taking the charge seriously?! So, the girl in this article was in Middle School. I don't think this will follow her into adulthood.

    My daughter thought her reputation and life were ruined when she drew on a fellow student's coat. Yes, she did have to replace the coat and go to detention for 3 days. I thought we were being more punitive than the situation strictly warranted, but we wanted the lesson to stick. And, despite her fears that the other students would never like her anymore and would think she was a “bad kid”, it turns out that it was just a tiny short lived wonder.

  • evonnejansen

    Honestly. This is too much.
    I fucking HATE the fact we are now scared of our own neighbors.
    Zero tolerance bullshit.
    But I'm NOT bitter.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    You miss the point entirely. This has nothing to do with a kid trying to get a three day suspension, or the level of harassment they got from it. It is about a kid being suspended for pointing their finger at the front of a classroom and being charged with making terroristic threats for doing so. It is asinine.

  • Anna_B

    This actually happened in my high school, except (and this is the sad part) the kid was copying the Fonz and walked out of the classroom with the gesture. Got 2 days in school suspension. Teacher said he was reenacting.

  • Tundratot

    No, I agree that it's asinine. I was just struck with a side issue.

    More on topic is that this COULD be construed as a threat in some environments. I imagine if this was an inner city school with a lot of gang action, and if the “shooter” was a gang member (or thought to be), this could actually have been a threat. I don't know enough about this school to say whether the teacher's fear was validated in that way. On face value, it just seems ludicrous.

    If this school district encompasses both types of school, as ours does, this zero tolerance thing would be a prudent thing that made total sense for some schools in the district, but not others. And, with classic bureaucratic fairness, who is to say that a kid who presents with baggy jeans, suspicious colors, and an attitude is actually a gang member making a threat, and not just as innocent of intent as the honor roll student? You can imagine the first kid's parents screaming about the unfair profiling of their child, and only a few would blame them.

  • Tundratot

    Reenacting what? The Fonz? Who cares.

  • Guest420

    People who have fear in their heart always think people are out to get them. Just find peace and live your lives!

  • Boringusername

    Another person a victim of crazy-a** social or religious dogma, thought up by zealots and enforced by foaming at the mouth idiots. Welcome to the human race, that is how it has always been, everywhere, she should consider herself lucky she wasn't burned, stoned or thrown in jail. Someday she will grow up do something similar to someone else.

  • Coyote

    This zero tolerance bullshit really pisses me off. If this girl had made some sort of threat to this teacher prior to or in addition to this incident, I could understand the teacher’s concern, but I haven’t read anything indicating this. If this teacher truly felt threatened by this girl’s action, maybe she ought to reconsider her profession. I couldn’t find the name of the teacher from what I read, but in my opinion her name ought to be thrown out there for public ridicule. If she feels so strongly against this child’s terroristic threat, she ought to let it be known. Instead, she’s hiding refusing to comment. This teacher’s nothing more than a ruthless bitch that enjoys tormenting the youth of today. Now that I think about it, I had a couple of teachers like that in school.

  • guillotinegirl

    The teacher was in fear for her life? Of what? The much dreaded, often fatal poke of doom? What a crock.

  • boyzmom33

    The whole zero-tolerance thing is bullshit and does nothing to stop problems, as far as I'm concerned. This was a few kids joking around, there is nothing terroristic about it. It sometimes seems like a few teachers use the “zero-tolerance” to make their job easier….the amount of kids suspended over ridiculous things = smaller classrooms??
    My oldest son was in grade 5 or 6 and got suspended for the zero-tolerance rule. His offense? He had a can of orange colored hair spray in his backpack that he took to school so he and his friends could color their hair for hallowe'en (it was Oct.31 and the teacher told them they could ress up)….When I went to the school to question this, I was told he could spray the hairspray and ignite it to hurt someone….really??? Like a flame thrower??? wouldn't he require a lighter for that too?? They had no answer for me but my son had a few days at home for bringing a “weapon” to school…….

  • greenmountainboy

    That teacher needs to be mercilessly fucked with for the rest of the year. How to do it? Organize the students to sit perfectly at attention, not to speak to each other, or to the teacher unless spoken to. Speak in a totally neutral tone, volunteer no words or actions. Doesn't sound too bad? It's used against douchey instructors in the military, and they go berserk. Imagine looking out at a classroom full of kids sitting perfectly still, looking attentively to the front. Not laughing, not talking, not looking side to side. It's maddening. It's creepy. And it conforms perfectly to regulations. There is not a thing that can be done about it.

  • UniqueMommy1984

    “In a lot of cases, disciplinary measures are decided on by an A = B methodology as laid out in a student handbook. It’s asinine that bullying can continue to go on in schools until some chick hangs herself or some dude pops off a few rounds in a cafeteria – but elsewhere in these same schools, you have people getting suspended for writing on a desk.”

    I agree with you Morbid!!! It really is asinine!

  • kittytoo

    That statement to me is so ignorant. I live in one of the most crime ridden cities in Canada. I have 4 children who want to go out and play or hang out with their friends. Finding peace in my heart just doesn't make the fear of kidnappers, gangs, drugs or what-have-you go away. It isn't MY fault that my kids are targets for crimes just because they exist. They can't carry around gadgets because they get mugged for them. My oldest son has been mugged multiple times. I doubt peace in his heart would have stopped it. As much as I would LOVE to move to a secluded area and pretend to be on a deserted island where the real world doesn't exist around me, circumstances are what they are. Peace in our hearts….LOL. Are you some kind of religious nut?

  • kittytoo

    I totally agree that this is asinine. It is very irritating that my kid can be beaten up, teased, set up (oh, how I hate that one) or bullied in many other ways and the bully usually gets away with it or gets off with less than a slap on the wrist. But bring a plastic knife to school in your lunch bag……holy shit, that's terroristic! THOUGH, I do not like that kids “play shooting” should be considered innocent. Not these days and especially not in certain circumstances (inner city schools, older teens who aren't in the cowboys and indians stage any more….). Now, this situation most likely didn't warrant the punishment given. They probably did go overboard big time here, where a talk may have just sufficed. There should definitely be room for logical consequence instead of the same standard punishments to all in this “zero tolerance” system. One kid is different from the next kid. There are so many varying factors that should be thought of. Seriously, why don't we just create a computer program that hands out the punishment if no logic is to be used. Shit….there's a thought. My grandkids are going to have a robot for a principal……..

  • msolsen05

    So…what would the punishment given if the teacher was flipped off? I dont know if I could let that one slip by. I think the teacher was being a freaking drama queen, wanted to get attention cause she is pathetic, and more than likely has such a boring life that she had to go and pull this shit just to feel important enough. Lets see what happens if someone sneezes in her general direction. Lord have mercy!

  • defenestratethis

    Well, to be fair, I thought guest was referring to the overeaction of the school and the teacher in the article. She thought her life was in danger because a 13 year old girl pointed her finger and said “pew pew…” ?!?! I know some individuals at work who have a very high fear factor, and man they can be annoying, always worrying, misintepreting, second guessing, making assumptions…blah blah blah. I'm no teacher, but I used to work as an assistant in Special Ed and was employed at all 3 levels ( grade, middle, and highschool) and you know, I observed a lot. If anyones interested, theres a great book called 'Bad Teachers' written by a man who's seen it all. I tell ya, I have very little faith in our public school system, and having worked in it for 15 years I finally got so depressed and burnt out with the whole scene I left for good. In fact, this morning I saw on the news a new technique being employed by a growing number of parents called “Non Schooling”. Its not the same as home schooling in that most of its advocates are NOT religous and it seems pretty cool, diifferent, nonconformist…but cool. George Carlin said he wished people would get rid of those silly ass bumper stickers 'Proud Parent of Honor Student At Jefferson (or whatevah) Elementary School' and replace em with sumthin like ' Proud Parent of a D-average student who wont be programmed into becoming a miserable drone”…wasnt exactly those words, but you get the point. George rules, in my opinion.

  • kittytoo

    Well, thank you for pointing that out. I didn't think of their comment in that way. Guest 420, if what defenestratethis says is what you meant, then my apologies. It's funny how one person will see the glass half empty and another person will see it half full. Two totally different thought proecesses……

  • Name Jayl

    “in fear of her life” wtf!! utter bullshit, looks like miss teacher likes to blow things out of all proportions,

    “in fear of her life” i mean really what is the need for all the drama, i wont get over that for a while, thats a serious over reaction, omg!

  • Soobs

    Zero tolerance policies are crap. The problem is that people no longer exercise common sense, so they apparently NEED everything spelled out for them, ergo “zero tolerance policies.”

    I'm so paranoid anymore, that I won't let my kids play “guns” in the front yard, in case someone driving by, thinks they are real. It's stupid that I have to have that rule, no?

  • Nunya

    Ever seen the movie idiocracy?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/BTYN5SIVHWNRENFLKYBXYNVYVE Avie

    Zero tolerance = zero intelligence, zero compassion…

    I'm all for keeping as safe an environment as possible. In an ideal world, we'd all be safe. This is not an ideal world, as is evident by the atrocities constantly shown on this site. However, there is a point where being too safe results in no one being safe. This is that point.

    Zero tolerance policies need to go the way of the dodo. Common sense needs to make a comeback. (If it ever truly existed, that is. My mother says that when she was a child, one of her teachers quipped, “Common sense is none too common.”)

    Either way, the teacher in this case sounds like an idiot. Was she afraid of invisible bullets, hmm? The girl's hand transmogrifying into a real gun? I feel sorry for the students in her class. I'm glad none of my teachers were ever like that, or I would have been suspended on multiple occasions, along with all my classmates. Then again, by the time the zero-IQ policies came along, I had already graduated. Thank goodness! Unfortunately, my son will have to deal with them in a few years when he starts kindergarten. The things he cannot do so far are: touch any other person in any way, doodle on desks, make “gun” signs, write stories or poetry that anyone finds “disturbing” in any way, touch anyone else's property, or bring mouthwash, plastic cutlery or aspirin to school. It's beyond ludicrous. These rigid, nearsighted rules are turning everyone into delinquents.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/BTYN5SIVHWNRENFLKYBXYNVYVE Avie

    Sure have! It's one of my favorite films, to date. I certainly hope society never gets that intellectually challenged, but sometimes, I do wonder if that's the direction we're headed.

  • Siobhan

    The transmogrification reference has me keyboard cleaning again! ;)

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/Z6DELFJDAZFJZNGDSUZREZSILE tlc

    You just named a few of the reasons I home-educate my teen-aged daughter! I have a zero tolerance policy for boring lessons and indoctrination! Because so many like-minded parents have refused to send their spawn to these insane schools, it's now becoming near impossible or illegal to teach our own children rather than sending them to these bitch teachers. Insanity!

  • Anna_B

    Reenacting a school shooting. You know, moving from room to room with a 'gun'?

  • gbtzu

    These fucking “politically correct” tards make a HUGE deal out of a bent key and a “pew pew finger gun” but IGNORE the fact that one of their students is being severely ABUSED by her parents on a regular basis, or that she hadn't attended school for three days because the monsters had nearly beaten her TO DEATH!!

  • Sugarglider1

    UM, cough. LOL! This situation with this kid is stupid as hell, but it has ZERO to do with “political correctness.” Seriously, you should look up what that term means before you start calling anyone a tard.

  • Sugarglider1

    Accusing this kid of terrorism is dumb as hell, and we can thank the legacies of GWB for this, since his entire M.O. for getting done the messed-up things he wanted to get done involved convincing America that a terrorist was behind every damn rock…it was the clarion call of the entire administration, and the fact that this kid is being accused of terrorism is just one node of a continuum of unacceptable garbage such as illegal wiretapping and the evisceration of habeus corpus and the Miranda rights…and so on. It's a fucking travesty, all of it.

  • Nicollie

    I'm guessing then you live in Vancouver? That's where I live, and it's fucked.

  • Parrot Toes (kathybird)

    Edmonton, and if I didn't live here, I wouldn't visit here either.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYNN2E6M7U6XMKLCX4BJ7MUYZQ Nikki Giard

    I like money.

    My husband is absolutely certain that we will be drinking “Brawndo” sometime soon down the line. With affirmations like this occurring regularly, I can’t say that I disagree.