Wiccan Had Stabbing Victim Listed In Cell Phone As “Sacrifice”

Those Wiccans are lying. Ostara was last month on the Vernal Equinox. Beltaine is what happens on May 1. Aside from that, I have to wonder exactly what she was trying to accomplish. Any Wiccan worth her weigh knows that sex magick is much better than trying to use the energy that comes from killing something. Especially sacrificing something that doesn't mean much to you. And I doubt that he meant much to her, given that he'd known her about a week.

-_- Idiot. Stupid, stupid, stupid, idiot. Giving every non-brain-dead Wiccan a bad name.

If she’s into practicing sacrificial witchcraft, maybe she ought to be burned at the stake.

Untrue. Anyone who practices magic of any kind (and Wiccans don't because for the most part it's a fraud) knows sacrifices of any kind are the best way to make offerings, which is why Voodoo and Santaria practitioners cut off chicken heads rather than bang each other.

Sex magic is a selfish fraud, where men claim that they can “raise power” by being rode by some chick. Aleister Crowley introduced it and people have been watering it down ever since.

You're right though. The Wiccans are willing to move their supposedly sacred holidays around just to keep from admitting some of the Wiccans out there are crazy.

I don't know where some of you are getting your information from but in Wicca one of the major laws is “harm none”. Not saying I am an expert on the religion but considering I just did a long ass paper for a college class on it that I got an A on. I think I would know a little bit. Then you got to think about the threefold law. What you dish out will come back to you in threefold. Plus, a true Wiccan believes in taking responsibility for their own actions whether they are positive or negative.

Nothing remotely Wiccan here, though perhaps Druidic? Or whatever traditions this psycho has drawn on, creating her religion of one.

Oh, big fucking deal. I've had Morbid listed in my cell phone as “Sacrifice” for eons. (I have Jaded as “Pooky.”)

And I was a Wiccan for more than a decade, and am still a Pagan. I know many Wiccans. And Wicca was invented in the 1950s by Gerald Gardner who plagiarized G.G. Leland's Aradia and some O.T.O. rituals. But even that was better than modern Wicca. As the case above demonstrates, Wicca is less a religion these days and more of a term various dabblers and hacks adopt. You should know this and be just as disgusted.

You've seen the same things I have. People claiming the goddess is a metaphor, magic is simply prayer etc. In my days Wiccans at least got down with some good old fashioned Witchcraft, now they spend most of their time cruising Hot Topic with their daughters and picking up baby daddy material on PaganSpace.

But you're right, just my opinion. But I wonder if you don't make the point about being made to look bad to the people who, you know, actually make you look bad?

In my days Wiccans at least got down with some good old fashioned Witchcraft, now they spend most of their time cruising Hot Topic with their daughters and picking up baby daddy material on PaganSpace.

lol…amen…

Sacrifices are most powerful when they cost the person doing the sacrifice something. Otherwise, It's a basically useless gesture. Voodoo and Santaria are from a different background, and sex magic would be severely looked down upon in their paradigm. They also don't stem from the same magical tradition as Crowley or Wicca. Sex magic in one way or another is ancient. Some gods required it, and some required that you abstain. Both use sex and sexuality to achieve a particular magical end. Crowley just built on a tradition that was already there. Also, I think he liked having an excuse to do lots of drugs and screw hookers.

I'm not willing to change my holidays to distance myself from the stupid Wiccans. And any wiccan who is willing to do so can get the hell out of my religion.

I'm getting my information on Wicca from being a practicing Wiccan for 16 years. “Harm None” is a shortened, dumbed down, idiot's version of the guidelines that wiccans use. The Three-fold law is similarly abused. Writing a paper and getting an A on it doesn't mean that you're intimately knowledgeable on what is a Mystery Tradition at it's heart. Not only that, in most of the “traditional” traditions of Wicca, the training for each degree is *at least* a year and a day. Doing a research paper on a subject doesn't make you an expert, no offense.

I *AM* a Wiccan. I *DO* know what I'm talking about. A true Wiccan does believe in taking responsibility for their own actions, and any possible consequences that may result from their actions.

Stabbing someone to death is definitely not condoned unless not stabbing them to death would result in a greater amount of harm being done. It's also not going to achieve the outcome that she wants, especially since she's in jail now. (Instant karma, bitch!)

That whole “Pooky” thing was supposed to be our little secret, Smoochums.

Depending. Commerce with spirits in many traditions is just that – commerce. In ancient Greek and Roman tradition Necromancers “fed” the spirits of the dead blood (from sheep) as well as honey, grains and other things when they were summoned. The concept of sacrifice as personal is an extension of Judeo-Christian tradition, or in modern times a post-Judeo-Christian tradition.

Also remember that Voodoo and Santeria were significantly influenced by Western Occultism, especailly in New Orleans and Brazil. The seals of many Exus for examples are similar to Goetic seals that were widely known about in Western traditions when Voodoo was coalesing, and African traditions have no concept of astrology like the West does, yet Voodoo practitioners often use astrology for timing of spells as well as amulets. In Brazil and other Latin American countries Spiritualism, and the works of Kardac (I think I'm spelling that right) are very influential in African diaspora traditions. All “occult” traditions in the New World are influenced by each other and continue to influence each other.

I agree with you about Crowley by the way. And frankly he's overrated.