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Teacher Suspended Over Facebook Remarks

February 16, 2010 at 3:50 pm by  

Apex, North Carolina – An eighth-grade science teacher at West Lake Middle School has been suspended after complaints were made regarding some comments and replies made on her Facebook page. Melissa Hussain made several posts on Facebook detailing the ongoing harassment she was dealing with at the hands of some of her students regarding Christianity. Things like someone leaving a postcard of Jesus on her desk, another placing a Bible with a note saying “Merry Christmas” with the Christ part underlined, kids reading the Bible in class and even singing “Jesus Loves Me”. These incidents upset her to the point that she made the smart move of addressing them in class explaining how hurtful these actions were. She also made the not-so-smart move of making disparaging remarks on her Facebook about her students, Christianity and Southerners. Not that anything she said was untrue, of course.

If you are a teacher out there reading this, if you have not learned by now, let me give you a word of advice. Stay off the social sites. Or at the very least, make them very, very private. One too many stories of teachers being fired or reprimanded over comments on their Facebook’s or pictures of them sucking tequila out of a stripper’s naval while on vacation in Vegas. It sucks, I know. But sadly your personal, private life must remain just that. Personal and private. Or suffer the wrath of any parent out there that did not like the fact you gave their Little Suzy a B instead of an A.

In the case of Hussain, her comments weren’t even that bad. You can read the ones that caused all the drama by checking out a PDF of Melissa Hussain Facebook before it was taken down. I didn’t find her comments that bad, most of the more inflammatory statements, like putting up a Dale Earnhardt Jr. pic with a swastika posted on his forehead, being made by people replying and not by her specifically. I do not agree with her “hate crime” comment but do agree that she had every right to complain. But as a teacher, she shouldn’t have made some of her feelings public regarding certain parents or students . It’s just unprofessional and as she is finding out, just asking for trouble.

Now I know some of you read her last name and immediately thought “OMG! Radical Muslim Terrorist!” but at this point, her religious views have not been disclosed and really, aside from it just being another detail, it really shouldn’t matter. From what it looks like, the only thing she was doing was teaching science to a group of kids who for some reason, wanted to do what a lot of Evangelicals like to do and harass her with Jesus Christ. Personally I do not feel she did anything wrong aside from making the very bad decision of keeping her Facebook public while making her comments. They may not have been the most professional comments written or condoned … but then again, redneck, ignorant, science-hating, Bible-thumpers have a way of bringing out the worst in almost any free-thinking, intelligent person.

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  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    At the risk of being jumped on……..what reason WOULD these southern Christian children have for putting a bible on her desk?

    Easy. Their parents. I have no doubt that there are some God-fearing 13-year-olds out there. But a co-ordinated campaign to harass a science teacher with Bibles and Jesus pics? Yeah, no.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    At the risk of being jumped on……..what reason WOULD these southern Christian children have for putting a bible on her desk?

    Easy. Their parents. I have no doubt that there are some God-fearing 13-year-olds out there. But a co-ordinated campaign to harass a science teacher with Bibles and Jesus pics? Yeah, no.

  • Scavengerofhumansorrow

    I am southern and a christian and i would not have done this. Ever. That was stupid and I cant see the reasoning behind it. Oh, Morbid, sent ya a bible, sorry its too late for the holidays.

  • HotReadingMama

    I am going to copy and paste my forum comment. Because I am lazy….and I agree with myself :)

    At the risk of being jumped on……..what reason WOULD these southern Christian children have for putting a bible on her desk?

    Spreading the joy of Christ's love? Something tells me no.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    At the risk of being jumped on……..what reason WOULD these southern Christian children have for putting a bible on her desk?

    We both know. Their parents. I have no doubt that there are some God-fearing 13-year-olds out there. But a co-ordinated campaign to harass a science teacher with Bibles and Jesus pics? Yeah, no.

  • sarabei

    This is utter rubbish! That teacher really shouldn't even be disciplined over this. The students however are another story. What she does in her private life is just that, private.

  • Mojo Jojo

    I don't get it I guess – I don't think that she personally said anything bad at all. What is the fuss all about? If you took it and switched it around and she was being harassed for being a Christian, would she be suspended then? I really just don't get it.

  • 62julietandvoid

    I would have had so much fun with this had I been the teach

  • nutmuffin

    You know what I really like about 3rd link you have up there, is part where parent gave herself up as the whiny parent who called about their child's first B.

  • butterfly_girl

    Why is it that if she was speaking about HER religious beliefs, singing religious songs, quoting bible/Koran verses, IN CLASS, she would have been fired immediately? Why weren't these little assholes reprimanded for not separating church and state? I thought that was the whole reason for removing religious references from school? While I agree that her fb page should be private, what she said was not a crime so why was she fired. I live in Texas and no one thumps a bible more then us with all the Catholics and Baptists fighting over our souls. I would hope that our freedom of speech would be upheld as just as important as freedom of religion and the right to bear arms. Not necessarily in that order, but you get the point. She should move here where we have an Indian (not Native American) running for Governor.

  • tundratot

    If I were her, I'd go to the ACLU.

    BUT, I also have to say it: What are you thinking making your FB page public? These gripes were entirely understandable and far from over the top on anyone's part — that I could see. But, I don't think you want the public to hear/read them. If you want to go public, take it to the news — if you can trust it — get there first.

  • sarabei

    I don't even think the things said really mattered. Honestly, how does it affect her ability to teach? She had an opinion, so what?? This is harassment, I don't care if it is by 8th graders. The administration should be in place to deal with issues like this without losing a good teacher because of religious bias.

  • angela

    STFU you whiny little teacher…kids are assholes, we all know that! It was so “hurtful” they left a bible on her desk…dramatic much?

    I would have had more respect for the teacher if she would have just called them little assholes and left it at that…not this whole “hurtful” bullshit…how about the kids that are disrupting the class by singing and reading the bible (when I assume they were suppose to be doing class work) being sent to the principals office?

    I think it has more to do with her not being able to control her class and the class realizing this and messing with her.

  • sarabei

    Because she apparently been doing that and the upped the ante. I think she had EVERY tight to be pissed off. They were disrespecting her with the apparent approval of their parents. I am tired of teachers paying the price for daring to have a life. Which is what I think these whiny brats and their parents should do,.

  • EveryVillainIsLemons

    Whoa. I am Christian, and while I think it was stupid of her to post her facebook status and comments in public, I am OUTRAGED that these children treated their teacher with such cruelty and disrespect. I am even more angry that these children's presumably Christian parents are not just okay with what they did–they are angry at the teacher for reacting as anyone who has been bullied based on her beliefs as been bullied. I can't speak for God, but I don't think he would be pleased with their efforts. These bullying tactics have pretty much guaranteed that this teacher will see the Christian God as a tool of closed-minded assholes rather than as the loving, compassionate God that I believe him to be.

  • SuperAslan

    No more thanks for articles?
    I'm crushed.

    Meh she wasn't using good judgement having a FB open for students/parents/random people she met and shared with to view.
    Teachers should show a bit more discretion, if for nothing but their own sake.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    You assume I got the article from the forums. :P

  • Coyote

    What happened to the right to free speech? I don’t do facebook, but how is this any different from this teacher sitting in a café after school talking to a friend about the students harassing her while someone sits at the table next to her eavesdropping? Don’t the kids or school staff have to search for her facebook page to find this? It’s not like it’s automatically sent to all her students.

    Because of problems like this she should have obviously kept her page private, but I feel she had just as much right to post about it, as the kids had to search out her facebook page and read it. I definitely don’t feel she deserves to be suspended over it.

  • HotReadingMama

    I am going to have to jump right in and agree with that statement.

    While I get the whole “you are a teacher, blah blah role model, etc” there IS the freedom of speech in this country and if your children, who are in middle school, who are under the age of 18, shouldn't see these things then perhaps their internet usage should be monitored.

    But again, we ALL know this is not what this story is about. If she had blue eyes and the last name Smith I am thinking these acts wouldn't have occurred.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Her freedom of speech was not squashed, obviously. But schools do have guidelines that teachers must follow, including when not on the clock. I am on the side of the teacher in regards to who she is dealing with, but it was pretty stupid to post her gripes on her public Facebook.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    No one is stopping any from using freedom of speech, but you seriously think a teacher should be able to post about how much they hate minorities and think they should all go and die. Or use it to express their dismay that Jewish people still walk the earth? I mean come on. This isn't a freedom of speech issue as she was free to post whatever she wants. But the right to free speech does not guarantee you keep your job once you express your views in a public forum.

  • HotReadingMama

    No, she was an idiot for not having it private.

    I have my shit private just so my ex mother in law cant read shit. She should have been on top of that.

    BUTTTT – I dont think she did anything wrong.

  • HotReadingMama

    No, I agree.

    Well, I agree it was stupid and she didnt use the proper privacy filters.

    At the same time…………

    Yea I couldnt be a teacher.

  • HotReadingMama

    And…she said they should all die??? Or that Jewish people should be wiped out? I need to go re-read. I was under the impression that she was defending her own civil liberties.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    No, she didn't say that. I was just giving an example of freedom of speech also being an occupational hazard.

  • HotReadingMama

    Hey Morbid. Eat me.

  • HotReadingMama

    Quickly

  • HotReadingMama

    I'm lonely.

  • defenestratethis

    Nothing she did or said warrants disciplinary action by the school. Meanwhile the creepy kids and self important parents get to gloat, gossip, and magnify the event so that by the time she gets back to work, she might as well be wearing a scarlet letter..I dont know..maybe 'A' for antichrist? What a load of crap. Ive heard the public school system in the south is way below par. Gee, I wonder why they have that reputation.

  • artygirl

    Where are we? Nazi freakin Germany here? Salem Massachusetts? Revisiting the Crusades?
    Schools allow staff to make social faux pas right inside their buildings on a daily basis. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard people who work in schools express the feeling that “no one is watching” indicating theie ability to get away with all sorts of inpropriety. Perhaps officials should look inside their own classrooms and offices before venturing onto Facebook. References to God are allowed in the classrooms, crosses are being worn by staff, Chirstmas and Easter are embraced and Halloween celebrations are not allowed, all whilst the separation of church and state is the order of the day. This is the many overpowering the few and it is the abusive, hypocritical slavish funnery of administrative state personnel enacted upon a group of people as committed, passionate, educated and underpaid as a person can be. What ever happened to adults demonstrating to kids and other adults what it is like to stand up for what you believe in? I cannot fathom that the expression of personal opinions and spititual ideals could be considered any more moral turpitude than professional persecution would be. What a sad, sad day this is to read this. I am horrified.

  • http://www.cloudster.com/sets&vehicles/JupiterII/JuptiterII.htm Dr. Smith

    Sure if she was arrested yeah, then I agree with you. By this schools standards (what ever they are)..that would depend on what their policy is and I don’t think they have to abide by The first amendment rule.
    Nor do I personally feel they have to. I do believe schools creating such policies/ or sign a contract as you put it (I think we’re meaning the same stuff here) is completely appropriate and like this case, needed.

    I’d like to think teachers ‘know’ better than to do what she did but some apparently need these guidelines and actually if something is such a infraction for termination then they better well write it out or they will end up sued for exactly what you wrote. However if they agree to the terms and standards the school draws out for them to remain employed and they fail to comply by all means they should be fired.

    I don’t think so many teachers will decided they will not teacher for such rules enforced on them, I believe when people are even deciding to go into that field they expect a certain amount of student heckling and mocking and they don’t even consider retaliation because their are in a position of authority and should be able to shake off what ever is said by children like a bad cold.

    I know 2 teachers and privately they bitch about the rigors of teaching like it’s the Armageddon in their classroom but publicly they appear to love their jobs and are as tough as a box of hammers.

    Though I’d never be one..dear God, you are right there isn’t enough qualified teachers and putting up with crap is part of the territory..not saying it’s right but I don’t think letting teachers make public rebuttals is right either. I would like to think though the students would also be held to that as well but they are children, teachers gotta rise above or they are in the wrong career path. just my thoughts

  • http://www.cloudster.com/sets&vehicles/JupiterII/JuptiterII.htm Dr. Smith

    Sure if she was arrested yeah, then I agree with you. By this schools standards (what ever they are)..that would depend on what their policy is and I don’t think they have to abide by The first amendment rule.
    Nor do I personally feel they have to. I do believe schools creating such policies/ or sign a contract as you put it (I think we’re meaning the same stuff here) is completely appropriate and like this case, needed.

    I’d like to think teachers ‘know’ better than to do what she did but some apparently need these guidelines and actually if something is such a infraction for termination then they better well write it out or they will end up sued for exactly what you wrote. However if they agree to the terms and standards the school draws out for them to remain employed and they fail to comply by all means they should be fired.

    I don’t think so many teachers will decided they will not teacher for such rules enforced on them, I believe when people are even deciding to go into that field they expect a certain amount of student heckling and mocking and they don’t even consider retaliation because their are in a position of authority and should be able to shake off what ever is said by children like a bad cold.

    I know 2 teachers and privately they bitch about the rigors of teaching like it’s the Armageddon in their classroom but publicly they appear to love their jobs and are as tough as a box of hammers.

    Though I’d never be one..dear God, you are right there isn’t enough qualified teachers and putting up with crap is part of the territory..not saying it’s right but I don’t think letting teachers make public rebuttals is right either. I would like to think though the students would also be held to that as well but they are children, teachers gotta rise above or they are in the wrong career path. just my thoughts

  • medusa

    what was she supposed to do? i'm not saying facebook was the option, obviously. but i wonder if she talked to the school admin? the school would be unlikely to do or say anything to the kids because their parents would be on them in a heartbeat…esp on the christianity thing. but there is separation of church and state, for a reason, in certain places. school is a place for education and it shouldn't be muddied by anyone's personal beliefs. i wonder how this would have gone if the teacher was pushing islamic material on students or even displaying it in the room? or if the kids were islamic giving her islamic materials? would the school have turned their head? i'm sure the kids knew she didn't want it. and 'going so far as to' voice to the class her displeasure,…well, i think it's okay to say 'i really don't appreciate these things..or want them' whatever…after all, that would be the first question a higher up would ask her..'did you tell the children to stop?'
    i'm not sure she should be reprimanded to the point of suspension or relieved of her job for what amounts to religious bullying. i'd also be willing to bet that some of the parents were in on it to some extent. this country does have religious freedom…teachers are allowed to be buddhist, atheist, calvinist, hindi, catholic, jewish, etc. just like their students. this is a confusing situation and i think the admin could at least admit that. but it seems like they're trying to quell the situation and appease someone???

  • tennesseebudd

    Nice & classy, Morbid. Stereotype much?
    Yankee dipshit.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I dunno, how about you? Born and raised in North Carolina you stupid cocksucker.

  • tennesseebudd

    In that case, my apologies for the “Yankee” part. Why insult Southerners
    if you are one? Born in TN 45 years ago, soon moving to Florida: I'm a
    lon-haire redneck & proud of it. Redneck, of course, doesn't mean
    uneducated; I happen to be an electronics engineer. From your comments I
    inferred that you were the typical Southern-bashing Yankee. My mistake.
    Still don't get it, though. Regardless of our disagreement, I like the
    site. FMJ.

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    Jesus, man. I didn't insult Southerners nor rednecks. I insulted Bible-thumping, ignorant rednecks. And again, I never insulted Southerners or stated that all Southerners are rednecks.

    Thanks for the compliment on the site, though. Stick around. I didn't mean the cocskucker part. It just sounded good in the comeback. I mean, even if you were one, there's nothing wrong with that. Also, I can handle being called a dipshit…but calling me classy really hurt, man. that was low. :P

  • tennesseebudd

    Okay, that last line made me grin.
    If I misunderstood, my apologies. I dislike ignorance as well. Thumpers
    I don't care about so long as they leave me be.
    I'll be around.

  • Coyote

    I just read an article regarding facebook gripes protected by free speech. This article concerns a student bad mouthing a teacher which is the opposite of this story, but I feel the basic premise is the same. You can read the article here:
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/02/16/facebo

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    I don't feel the premise is the same. A student should be able to express their dislike of a teacher on the Internet as long as it is not slanderdefamation, etc. But a teacher shows poor form when they use a public forum to express displeasure at specific students or their parents – even if they deserve it. This causes issues in the classroom and brings up fears of a hostile environment for the kids in the class. Do you really think it would be acceptable for a teacher to start talking about how crappy a particular parent dresses their kid, or how much they dislike a specific student on Facebook?

  • Dr_Smith

    good on ya, Morbid wasn't dissing Southerners. I thought he was just using a play on the real articles wording myself. I could be wrong however I still didn't see Morbid mocking the south.

    That being said I just copied this (the link that lead me to it said it was from the 'Rednecks dictionary' – don't know if thats true) I think this sums up what most people consider a Redneck..at least I do and we all know what my opinion means…

    “In modern usage, redneck predominantly refers to a particular stereotype of whites from the Southern United States. The word can be used either as a pejorative or as a matter of pride, depending on context.

    The redneck stereotype:
    The term redneck is seen by some people to be both racist and classist, as it is was originally used to describe a person of pale skin that has been sunburned doing outdoor work or field work, and disproportionately applies to the poor. Today, a redneck is a stereotypical southern United States socially conservative, fiscally liberal, rural, working class white person with northern European ancestry.

    The popular etymology says that the term derives from such individuals having a red neck caused by working outdoors in the sunlight over the course of their lifetime. The effect of decades of direct sunlight on the exposed skin of the back of the neck not only reddens fair skin, but renders it leathery and tough, and typically very wrinkled by late middle age. Another popular theory stems from the use of red bandanas tied around the neck to signify union affiliation during the violent clashes between United Mine Workers and owners between 1910 and 1920.

    Some historians claim that the term redneck originated in 17th century Virginia, when indentured servants were sunburnt while tending plantation crops.

    A redneck is usually typified in popular culture by a straight male with a beer belly that consumes cheap American beer such as Busch or Miller by the case (Pabst Blue Ribbon in more traditional settings) as well as Jack Daniel's. They are generally distrustful or dislike anyone not like them or the government. The stereotypical redneck lives in a trailer, and drives an old, large, beat-up pickup truck with a gun rack in the rear window. He generally wears a stained, sleeveless t-shirt, blue jeans, and a trucker hat.

    Their hair is generally worn in the mullet style, and they favor long sideburns. Personal hygiene is a lost concept with the stereotypical redneck, and what teeth they have left generally show the complete anthology of the stages of dental caries. Their favorite activities include hunting, shooting at road signs and lights, professional wrestling, NASCAR, monster truck rallies, car engine repair, collecting junked cars and large appliances on their lawns, having way too many children and dogs, participating in domestic disturbances, and waiting around for their welfare checks. Country and Southern Rock bands such as Lynyrd Skynyrd figure in as their preferred genre of music.

    Stereotypical redneck females have similar characteristics and interests on a feminine scale. They are most often seen barefoot, pregnant and wear Daisy Duke shorts with stiletto heels.”

  • Dr. Smith

    I agree with both of you on certain points….

    I agree with Coyote in the sense that the teacher should also be protected constitutionally under the First Amendment, and regarding the law standard practice should be equality.

    I agree with Morbid more over because a 'adult' particularly a teacher who took on the job to guide young impressionable minds should have a little more couth and self control when making comments on a open social messaging board knowing very well it could be ferreted by her curious students and held under scrutiny by both her pupils and her peers.

    I'm sure in her school/company policy somewhere is a section about behaving responsibly and maturely on and off campus (though really does that need to be said?? looks that way) while in their employ. So they had every right to fire her ass IMO

  • butterfly_girl

    I just read an online story that ruled in favor of a 19 year old girl that criticized her teacher on fb by creating a page that said she hated her teacher. It was created after school and accessed only when the student was home. When the principal got wind of it, he suspended her for 3 days and took her out of advanced classes. The ACLU got involved and a Federal Magistrate ruled that it was Free Speech and therefore protected under the first amendment. Because it was not threatening or dangerous, the principal had no business getting involved.
    I think that teacher that got fired has a good case for fighting this. At the very least, she can get that removed from her empoyment record. Definitely a good case for the ACLU.

  • Coyote

    Well,…yea,…well,…maybe not. I still think it all comes down to free speech. And although it would be in poor form, as long as it isn’t slander/defamation or a threat, it should remain a right. Because of ethical standards, I do feel it would be wrong for a teacher to badmouth a student just because they didn’t like the way they dressed, but they should have that right. The school would also have the right not to renew that teacher’s contract. But if schools start making teachers sign a contract stating that the students have a right to publicly bad mouth the teacher, and the teacher has no right to rebuttal, or even the right to publicly blow off steam, I would guess we’d lose quite a few qualified teachers. In this age of illiteracy, this is something we don’t need.

  • backlash

    I missed you Dr. Smith. Don't go running off again…

  • Random Commenter

    Agreed

  • tennesseebudd

    Well, I do live in a trailer, and I own a '72 Chevy Cheyenne (& a 2004
    F150). I ride a hot-rod Honda. Hair down to mid-back, tattoos,
    moustache. I fit some of it.

  • Anonymous

    There is such a thing as a ‘character clause’ in certain contracts. I’ve never been a teacher so I’m not sure what they have to sign when they are hired, but I wouldn’t be shocked to learn that it’s close to stuff I’ve had to agree to over the years.
    Simplified, it is to make sure you don’t make an ass of yourself in public even when you’re off the clock. Nothing to give the person (or institution or company) that pays you a black eye in the community.
    As in, don’t go tear one on at the local bar and cause tongues to wag. Don’t get a DUI. Stuff like that.
    Facebook is uh….pretty public.

    She brought this on herself.
    signed
    Redneck who doesn’t hunt

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t find any identifying information that she put out. She claims to not even know who the culprit is. So what is this such a big deal?

  • Anonymous

    My grammar has been so off today… ah well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anna-Hall-Grillot/100000054600337 Anna Hall Grillot

    Actually, that is not the intention of the separation of church and state. It was to keep the government from forcing a religion, like what they fled from in England. And also like in Nazi Germany. Look it up. There is nothing in there saying that people can't practice their religion in schools or government offices. There is nothing saying that you can't distribute religious materials either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anna-Hall-Grillot/100000054600337 Anna Hall Grillot

    Why not? I am a Christian, and as such, I believe that non Christians are going to hell. I am very sorry about this, and I can be a bit Evangelical at times, especially with a drug using, criminal who is very promiscuous, and my best friend. And after picking her up at the jail, taking her to see her husband in jail, taking her to see her kid who was taken, and washing her up after detoxing I share the Message about forgiveness and love. I have a very rough life and a criminal record myself, and since I found Jesus, I feel SO much better! It is awesome! And I want to share that, it is not malicious at all.

    And I would not be offended if someone gave me a Koran and a Muslim card. If you believe you are right, and that I'm going to perish, you should speak up! I know from various supernatural experiences that I am right, but it would be good to know that someone was looking out for my soul. The only thing that I would have been this upset about is if someone put their hands on me. Maybe these kids were being mean, but maybe not. I don't think she should have been fired, but I also believe she should have asked the kids to please stop, and not try to “shame” them, in her words.

    If you live like there is a Jesus and you are wrong, what's the harm? What if you live like there isn't a Jesus, and you are wrong?

  • http://www.dreamindemon.com Morbid

    People do not need Jesus to live good lives. Some of us do not need a reward for being good, or the fear of some kinda supernatural boogeyman to keep us from acting like assholes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anna-Hall-Grillot/100000054600337 Anna Hall Grillot

    That is your believe, and I'm not going to argue with you about it, unless I'm holding your hair while you puke in my car. I know some atheists are great people and don't act like douches, and I am friends with an agnostic that is just the best. But that is not really the point of what you are saying, I believe you are just being snide, and you have your own point to make and nothing I can say will convey to you what is really in my heart. I believe you are too prejudiced to accept anything I say as heartfelt, or for how I intend it. It will be twisted in your mind. That's okay, I expect it, the Word of God is nonsense to those who are perishing. I didn't act like an a-hole and don't need God to keep me from it, I need God to heal the hurts of people who acted like that towards me. My criminal record is 14 years old, but I have been living in agony for 26 years, He makes it better. Sometimes learning forgiveness can mean forgiving those who have hurt you, not the other way around.

  • sarabei

    These kids were being malicious. That is the problem with Christianity, they feel the need to force their beliefs down people's throats whether they want/believe that way or not. Doing that to someone with the full knowledge they don't want to hear it, etc. is harassment. Also the classroom is not the time nor the place for singing church hymns, etc.

  • Eracsurfer

    I hate to disagree with you Sarabei… it isn't Christianity that has a problem… it is a portion of Cristians out their that try to force their beliefs on others. I know just as many atheists that try to do the same, but I don't go bitching that atheism is to blame for the idiots that happen to do be atheists. I do agree though, that the students clearly overstepped all sane boundaries with their actions.

  • sarabei

    I agree with you Eracsurfer. Christianity, if it is followed as intended would/could be a wonderful thing. However, as usual, when man becomes involved it all goes to hell. That said, I don't think anyone of any religious belief, or lack of belief, should force feed their views to anyone. I think everyone should respect each others different views. Stories like this really get under my skin, and it bugs me when people are like, well it is their Christian duty to try to save this poor lost souls, irregardless of whether she NEEDS saving or now.

  • oceangirly92

    I believe in God up above, I don't label myself. the students and teacher alike could have went about their personal beliefs in a much more professional manner. they are both wrong

  • oceangirly92

    I believe in God up above, I don't label myself. I believe the students and teacher alike could have went about their personal beliefs in a more professional appropriate manner. they are both wrong