backlash
10:24 am on November 5th, 2009
Randal is such a facebook fanboy.
sarabei
10:38 am on November 5th, 2009
These parents are disgusting. “How does it feel to have BOTH your parents beat on you”..UGH!
Boughtthefarm
11:18 am on November 5th, 2009
I can’t believe they didn’t charge the mother as they did the father. Assholes. I wish our government would make it illegal to hit kids, even under the guise of discipline. If you hit an adult, it is a crime. So why the hell are we still allowed to hit kids?? Just fucked up!
Rebel
12:36 pm on November 5th, 2009
This was probably going a little too far, but the world was a better place when kids actually had to face consequences such as an ass-beating when they did something anti-social. If you go through the articles on here, I would guess that maybe 90% of the idiots featured would have benefited from a good ass-whipping as kids, they might not have ended up featured at all if they had got some.
Darsa
12:36 pm on November 5th, 2009
I agree, the mother was just as guilty for cryin’ out loud! Charge ‘em both and get that poor kid outta there!! Wow.
backlash
12:48 pm on November 5th, 2009
said something about “making it even” before kicking her in the right hip.
That’s funny shit. An OCD child abuser!
Veronica
2:05 pm on November 5th, 2009
This was probably going a little too far, but the world was a better place when kids actually had to face consequences such as an ass-beating when they did something anti-social. If you go through the articles on here, I would guess that maybe 90% of the idiots featured would have benefited from a good ass-whipping as kids, they might not have ended up featured at all if they had got some.
While I’m sure you feel very confident about your pronouncement, it is nothing more than conventional wisdom and there is no evidence at all that’s true. What studies HAVE shown, over and over, is that those who ARE abused as children are far more likely to abuse their own. The “kids these days don’t have any respect, need more ass-whoopings” meme is irritating because it completely oversimplifies the issue. That, and it causes one to look at this story in which the parents beat the crap out of the kid followed by two swift kicks, hair-pulling and cruel taunting and respond that maybe it was a “little too far” instead of being disgusted.
Rebel
3:52 pm on November 5th, 2009
Whatever… Sometimes an issue IS simple – If you do something wrong, there should be consequences. Not in reference to this story, I’m not saying a kid should get beaten for having a myspace page, but in the big scheme of things. When people get caught doing something wrong, & suffer no consequences, that teaches them it’s OK. Next time they’ll do something a little more wrong, & so on. I’ve seen several stories on here where thieves or child-molesters get caught red-handed & have their asses beat, & everyone commenting is all for it. Maybe some ass-beatings earlier on would prevent a child being molested, rather than an ass-beating after the fact.
Tricia
3:52 pm on November 5th, 2009
damn, I should be able to ask, “what’s it like to have both of your parents in jail?” but sometimes the police just dont protect and serve.
DreamCatchers For Abused Children » Father Beats Daughter Over MySpace Account
4:20 pm on November 5th, 2009
[...] Randal Schaal Doesn’t Like Myspace [...]
Athena
4:31 pm on November 5th, 2009
…the world was a better place when kids actually had to face consequences such as an ass-beating when they did something anti-social.
Violent crime among teens is at a 40-year low. Drug use among teens has dropped significantly in the last 10 years. Teens are waiting longer to lose their virginity these days. Kids are improving in almost every conceivable way.
Sorry, but the numbers prove quite clearly that the “wonder years” older people seem to recall is all a delusion. They never existed.
I’m all for structure and consistent discipline in households, and if crime, drug use and sexual activity are any measure, it looks like today’s kids are getting it.
As you seemed to note, however, the above example is way out of line.
Coyote
4:47 pm on November 5th, 2009
I was spanked as a child, and I’ve spanked my kids; it is not abuse. Beating and spanking are two totally different things. I agree with Rebel, conventional wisdom is simple.
I do agree what the parents did wasn’t right, and I do worry about the girl being left with her mother as I didn’t read anything about where she would be staying after this happened.
Athena
5:07 pm on November 5th, 2009
I was spanked, and I’ll probably spank my children if appropriate. I think most people recognize that spanking is not abuse. Now, if “ass beating” is the term Rebel uses to describe “spanking”, he/she may want to reevaluate that word choice, because when I read “ass beating”, I’m thinking of something more than a swat on the rear.
That said, spanking isn’t the only consequence available, and it should really be a last resort anyway. Generally speaking (I know there are exceptions), spanking is some lazy fuckin’ parenting past the age of 5 or so. I know lots of kids who got spanked plenty who were hellions because the error of their ways was never explained to them. Instead, it was, “because I said so,” and a swat. That’s barely more effective than doing nothing at all.
Rebel
6:37 pm on November 5th, 2009
OK, I guess my terminology is throwing people off. I don’t mean abuse, I mean punishment, to an appropriate degree. And yes, there are other forms of consequences, but there should be SOME consequences. There often isn’t during the formative years. I know that when I was 10 or so, I remembered the belt-spanking I got from my mom for stealing a dollar from her purse, & I was disinclined to any further filching after that.
I would just rather see some non-abusive ass-beating (to an appropriate degree) when it might teach something, rather than a vengeful ass-beating after some horrible crime. Some people seem horrified at any corporal punishment, but gleeful when a rapist gets beat down, I don’t understand why…
biteme
7:47 pm on November 5th, 2009
Was spanked, never laid a hand on my kids, couldn’t understand the benefit back than, can’t see the benefit now. It’s about respect not beatings, deferent degrees of spanking, I understand a few attention getting smacks and don’t really have a problem with it, just not my style, but I do raise my voice and get a bit loud, maybe that’s even worse who knows
Boughtthefarm
9:02 pm on November 5th, 2009
Ditto biteme! My dad wasn’t a hitter but my mother was and it is all about the respect. I don’t think hitting [abusive or discipline] benefits anybody, unless you are an angry parent. Never hit my son – never had to. There are plenty of other options to get the end result. I did smack my son on the leg once when he was 3 cause I caught him trying to stick a used q-tip in an electrical outlet. But, that was just a reflex. Felt bad about it afterwards. I had to learn a lot of lessons via the belt, extension cord, switch, etc that I could have learned without the assistance.
Sir Geoff
10:20 pm on November 5th, 2009
Some kids need a smack on the butt (NOT beatings). I have too many “stand in the corner” and “time out” parent friends who go crazy because their brats never change. (Sinbad does a great comedy routine about this BTW.) Also,if those facts are true, violence among teens may be down, but the seriousness of the violence is up. My old neighborhood is practically ghetto now. Yeah, we fought sometimes, did pranks, etc….but eveyone lived or wasn’t scarred for life. Frankly, in this age of the internet I am skeptical of any “facts” or “data”. Some sites say teen pregnancy and sexual activity/experimentation is up. Some sites say elementary kids are already starting to delve into sex. Which is it? Who the hell really knows.
Southern Lady
2:06 am on November 6th, 2009
I’m with Biteme and Boughthefarm. Same situation happened to me. There are many other forms of discipline that worked just fine with my three children, and now they are highly motivated university students.
I think Schaal is perverted. You don’t beat on a 14 year old’s ass. Perhaps he should be kept away from the computer and the numerous spanking porn sites, you think?
CassieMomma
10:48 am on November 6th, 2009
While I’m glad they did something about their youngin having a myspace acouunt, they obviously went too far. It drives me nuts when people I know let their kids have myspace or facebook accts and then they try and friend me. I don’t think so. These people I know also don’t have the smarts to actually see who they are talking to and what they are doing……Stranger Danger!
Boughtthefarm
8:57 pm on November 8th, 2009
I don’t know about myspace but you aren’t allowed to have facebook page if you are under 18. At least that is a FB rule. Those who do have to lie about it. My stupid sister opened a FB page for my 4 yo nephew. Not that he uses it, she does she says to keep family members up to date. So, why the hell doesn’t she just use her page? Who knows. But I think it is crazy for parents to allow that and to be doing it themselves.
lovemybabe927
11:51 pm on November 8th, 2009
i have no problem with myspace i actually have a page for my kids to keep ppl up to date, im not FULLY against spankings either. if nothing else works at the moment a tap wont hurt….tap, not ass-whooping. but my husband was raised in an abusive home and i wasn’t…he is neither harsh or abusive but does still hold a grudge cuz of his childhood. there are prolly just as any ppl is prison that that never got spanked, as there are that got beat enough to still have handprints on there ass. its the emotional pain, the embarassment, that will really hurt. remembering forever being spanked at 14 over seriously dumb shit.
Anna B.
4:35 am on November 11th, 2009
From my standpoint, I’d go with spanking (not ass-beating), but the punishment fits the crime. I was spanked when I hit my younger brother with a stuffed animal. I was not spanked when I cursed for the first time. I was spanked for scaring the living daylights out of my mother by being out after dark when I knew better. I knew my limits. Most importantly, I knew my parents’ limits.
My cousin was never spanked as a child. When he was 14, my uncle gave up disciplining him entirely one summer and sent him to live with his sister. His sister, my aunt, ripped out her hair and handed the boy over to my dad. My mom and dad spanked him when he acted up past the limits that every member of my family understands. I have never seen him disrespect my parents since that summer. My grandmother compliments my uncle on how good he acts during family reunions when my parents are present. He doesn’t act scared, he even joins in when my dad cracks jokes. From what I’ve witnessed, a well-agreed upon discipline system combined with spanking is the best option. As long as everyone knows the limits.
dingleberry
2:51 pm on November 20th, 2009
Maybe there is more to this than said, a attention getting scheme?

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