Yeah, unfortunately, cops can't do much to solve cases when the victim is unable or unwilling to provide information. I do hope the child recovers thoroughly, though; the thought of individuals taking Preston's actions out on a younger brother is sickening, if that's what happened, and I hope they can be caught.

Well, without any input I've found that it was the local fuzz that responded to the call. On November 4th, Claremore police responded to Claremore Regional Hospital's emergency room. Apparently, the 14 year old brother was assaulted in the area of the Claremore rec center as he walked home from the local skate park.

Via E-mail:

"I’ve spoken with the officer who took the report and he advised that Mrs. Dohrer reported the assault on her son while at the Claremore Regional Hospital Emergency Room. The officer advised that when asked, Mrs. Dohrer and her son were unable to give any description of the assailants. Mrs. Dohrer and her son also advised that they could not provide the officer with a reason or motive for the assault. The officer did advise Mrs. Dohrer that incidents of the described nature (unknown assailants and unknown or no provocation) were extremely unusual in the Claremore area. The officer asked Mrs. Dohrer to contact him with any further information she might be able to obtain from her son regarding this matter (possible suspects, descriptions, etc.) so that the incident could be properly investigated.



A copy of the emergency room report is attached to the officer’s report detailing the victim’s injuries and noting that the victim was discharged to home with instructions to follow up with his personal physician.



Since the time the initial report was taken, neither the police department, nor the officer who took the report, have been contacted by either Mrs. Dohrer or her son regarding any additional information.

If you, the 14 year old, or Stacy happen to have any further information regarding the incident you should contact Officer Matt Wild (the responder) or Sgt. Wayne Stinnett.

Rogers County prosecutors stated although Dohrer’s act was done without any premeditated design, he engaged in conduct that was “contemptuous and in reckless disregard of, and in total indifference to, the life and safety of another,” according to court records.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?sub...

that pretty much sums it up

I agree completely, Siobhan. He's not being set up. The papers aren't lying. The cops didn't make Preston's statement up for him. Nobody's "messing with" anybody. What we're seeing here is a defense in the making.

Now as for twiddling their thumbs over an assault: I'll actually entertain that idea. In fact, I'll even dig into it and order heads on platters if allowed. Preston may deserve a jail sentence, but that doesn't mean 3 other people deserve to get away scott free with an assault, if that's what it was.

When the DA arrived at the scene of the shooting, he said it was a horrible accident.

Well, he must have had a change of mind.
Contrary to what you may believe, the DA is the one who brings forth charges, not your sheriff's department.
Perhaps something Preston said convinced the DA into thinking this was not your average "horrible accident"?

Maybe it was this,

Dohrer was pointing a 9-millimeter pistol at the victim to scare him while the two were drinking alcohol together, according to a police report. Dohrer was pointing a 9-millimeter pistol at the victim to scare him while the two were drinking alcohol together, according to a police report. Dohrer intended to point a gun at Duke and pull the trigger on an empty chamber when the gun fired, Dohrer told police. , Dohrer told police. ???

You see that one word, "intended"?
That is a most powerful mojo word in law, especially in criminal cases pertaining to a person's death.
According to what Preston told the po-po, he formed "intent", from the moment he picked up the gun.
Not when he pointed the gun at Mykel, not when he pulled the trigger, but moments before, *when he picked up the gun*.
He knew it was a weapon, he even realized it was loaded, yet he followed through with his original intent and Mykel died as a result.

All of this took many moments, any of which would have been an excellent time for Preston to put down the gun; unfortunately, I doubt that thought ever crossed his mind.

What position are you in to do anything?

I've actually got quite a few ears that I can bend. Mostly I need to know which responding entity was involved, so I can start off by bending the right one.

Corruption only goes as far as it's allowed.

That is the problem, we don't believe that was Preston's account, that isn't what the witnesses involved told the police either. This is why we are having so many difficulties getting to the bottom of this. There are to many stories out there floating around, I know what all the witnesses reported, I saw the entry wound on my nephew, I saw where it entered and the position of the bullet as it entered his skull and there is just no way with the forensics we have today that the "story" that is now being reported can be true. However, we are working on that problem.

I would have to find out as to who it was that responded to the call. It was pretty lame what they did and the mother is absolutely furious and beside herself at this point.

What position are you in to do anything? I agree, their asses do need to be on a plate, and all will come out in due time. The truth is going to be revealed and this case will undoubtedly go national because of all the corruption involved. It's only a matter of time, not to mention this is one of the most stubborn families when it comes to messing with one of our own, it's likely to not be pretty.

Also, was it the RSCO that responded to the assault or was it Claremore fuzz?

If you could bear with a condemned soul for just a moment: Rogers County is crawling with corruption. I could tell you stories that would make your hair curl. However...the account that just came out was Preston's own, and I believe it for that very reason. The charge against him has absolutely nothing to do with said corruption. It's actually highly likely based on the fact that Preston told them that he'd pointed the gun at Mike, thinking it was an empty chamber, and pulled the trigger with the intention of scaring him. If he'd said something else, for instance as Athena pointed out; "I was (insert whatever action here) and it misfired and happened to hit him" we'd be looking at manslaughter charges here if anything at all. As horrible as the position you're in is, you need to come to grips with that. All you can do...ALL YOU CAN DO...is be there for him.

Aside from that; Do you know the names of the officers who responded to the call regarding the 14 year old? What day did this happen and when was the report made? Can the 14 year old identify his attackers? I'd like more info, because I'd like to have their asses on a plate.

Athena and Thain.

Athena, I am saddened by your losses. You are so correct concerning how Preston may become, our family is gravely concerned over him. However, Thain is so correct. Rogers County is so crooked that when Prestons 14 year old brother was attacked a few days ago by 3 men, yes I said MEN, the tore his shoulder at the rotator cup and severely damaged his left eye as well as other injuries I am not at a liberty to discuss. When the cops were called they told his mother "we don't have random beatings in claremore, he must of done something to provoke them" when the kid told the cop they said it was because of presaton the cop replied "well if u have any more information call" and left. Never taking a description of the attackers, pictures, nothing. When the DA arrived at the scene of the shooting, he said it was a horrible accident. These accounts that have just come out are not the reports that the witnesses gave and at this point we can only pray. Claremore doesn't have justice in mind. We are working hard to get this all worked out and I do appreciate those who understand what we are going through and have compassion.

Athena
"The fact that he is being charged with second-degree murder rather than involuntary manslaughter (or something similar) or nothing at all lends itself to the credibility of the article posted here.... Generally, when a tragic accident like this occurs, prosecutors are NOT looking for someone to hang. In most cases I’ve seen, they are especially cognizant of the family’s suffering, the suffering of the individual who was ultimately responsible for the accident, and they leave well enough alone."

Obviously you have not lived in Rogers County or if you do you haven't for very long. The police here go looking for people to arrest and they throw the book at anyone they think they can get away with it. Rogers county has been termed the crookedist county in the USA. If they think they can get away with it they will do it Just for shits and grins it seems like.

Dohrer was pointing a 9-millimeter pistol at the victim to scare him while the two were drinking alcohol together, according to a police report. Dohrer intended to point a gun at Duke and pull the trigger on an empty chamber when the gun fired, Dohrer told police

Preston did not point the gun at Mykel head/face. He was trying to drop the clip and make sure it was unloaded before he showed it to mykel. Unfortuantely Mykel was looking down and the gun misfired and Mykel got shot.


Wonder which account is correct???? Probably Dohrer's since he was holding the gun.

…hence the second-degree murder charge.

Exactly.

There's no denying how bad it would suck to be in their places right now. That just happens to make no difference in the eyes of the law, either. I'm not black-hearted. Reality is sometimes, though.

...hence the second-degree murder charge. They don't issue that charge for misfires, they issue it for blatant stupidity or rage. This appears to be the former. But I'm sure, according to Preston's friends and family, the witness/police are lying.

The Tulsa World has a bit more of a revealing article on this. It just came out this afternoon:

Dohrer told police he had accidentally shot Duke, who was a visitor in Dohrer’s home. Stan Brown, Claremore assistant police chief, said the two were cousins.

Dohrer was pointing a 9-millimeter pistol at the victim to scare him while the two were drinking alcohol together, according to a police report. Dohrer intended to point a gun at Duke and pull the trigger on an empty chamber when the gun fired, Dohrer told police.

A witness in the residence told officers that Dohrer and the victim were “playing around with each other” and playing with knives. The witness said Dohrer went to his bedroom and returned with a handgun, pointing the firearm at the victim and shooting him one time.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?sub...

The fact that he is being charged with second-degree murder rather than involuntary manslaughter (or something similar) or nothing at all lends itself to the credibility of the article posted here.

Generally, when a tragic accident like this occurs, prosecutors are NOT looking for someone to hang. In most cases I've seen, they are especially cognizant of the family's suffering, the suffering of the individual who was ultimately responsible for the accident, and they leave well enough alone. Like I mentioned, this type of accident has occurred not once but twice very close to me.

Several years ago in Rockville, MD, my 16 year old cousin Johnny accidentally shot and killed his brother, my 13 year old cousin Alex, while handling the handgun he found beneath his father's pillow. Johnny was not charged and my uncle was simply cited for negligence which cost him a fine and mandatory safety training.

Last April, my dear friend Eric was accidentally shot and killed while teaching his new wife and our friend, Jackie, how to handle a firearm. He didn't thoroughly check the weapon for rounds. Even despite the fact that this occurred after what was termed a "moderate" amount of drinking, no charges were filed after the investigation.

So, if, in this case, Preston has been charged with second-degree murder, I would tend to think one or more of the witnesses to the incident described the events in a way that painted Preston as being reckless that evening. Because, if things happened as suggested here by his defenders, and Preston had not been drinking excessively, was not on drugs at the time and was simply showing Mike the legally purchased (I assume) firearm when it misfired, I find it hard to believe he would have been charged so severely.

I do know, however, that no sentence handed down can punish Preston more than he's punishing himself. In my experience, this is something people don't recover from. My cousin Johnny, well into adulthood now, is an unfortunate shell of a human being. His father committed suicide, as his responsibility for the event was too much to bear. And Jackie... Jackie has since moved to be with Eric's family, which has embraced her lovingly, but cannot repair the trauma and horror she will feel for the rest of her life. Reports from those close to her suggest she's not doing well.

So, ultimately, I wish the absolute best to Preston and the rest of both families, because, realistically, the nightmare has just begun. Hopefully, all involved have supportive families who will remain watchful of those affected, because this kind of tragedy can easily ripple and compound, leading to even more tragedy down the road.

Nah, a waste of the taxpayer's money. Let the bimbo stand as she may.

kaosmayhem i am grown up and it would be easy to go back to school if i hadnt already graduated.

Can you get a redo?

A formal charge of second degree murder was filed today against Preston Adam Dohrer in the death of Michael Duke.

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11-06-2009 TEXT - 4093841 Nov 6 2009 11:24:11:250AM - $ 0.00
OCIS HAS AUTOMATICALLY ASSIGNED JUDGE STEIDLEY, J. DWAYNE TO THIS CASE.

http://www.oscn.net

I’ll be the one carrying a bible and a highlighter to see how much they got right.

You are the awesome. :)

You defenders keep telling us that we don't have all of the facts... Let me set the record straight.

Fact #1: Both Preston and Mike were alive at the beginning of the night.

Fact #2: A firearm was in Preston's hand and was discharged accidentally.

Fact #3: Mike is no longer alive.

Personally whether Preston had ever touched a drop of alcohol in his LIFE makes no difference to me.

So, you defenders can kiss my ass and get in line behind me on the way to the gates of hell.

I'll be the one carrying a bible and a highlighter to see how much they got right.

At first I admired MikesAunts words and felt sympathy for her and her family, much more so than his bimbo girlfriend, throwing curses in everyone's direction. But then she started throwing her God and heaven and hell stuff, makes absolutely NO difference in this world. We live under man's law ("Give unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar") You tell people to read the bible more. I've read it plenty and you act as if you've never seen it. I've also studied it enough to know that it is actually only the words of men.

If you want people to respect your wishes, MikesAunt, understand that some have actually gone through what you've experienced (mentioned earlier, hey, my brother actually shot himself in the foot), but ranting at someone who has developed his own opinion makes you look a bit moronic.

Come back at me if you want, but it won't make any difference. I also have my own opinion, and your rants won't change a thing.

Stop already, Honor his life not his death. They both screwed up, what consolation is condemning people to hell. If the opinions voiced on this site are insulting to you, move the fuck on and stop reading them.

You inferred that I was going to hell (not the first in your crew to do it), so I'm asking you the same question you just asked me. Is that really where you think you'll be?? If I'm going to have brimstone in my ass, you'll be there to pick it out for me. I'm not the one who needs to read the bible more often.

I live in the land of "The law doesn't give a damn what the victim would have wanted" and "This, in fact, does not happen to everybody". What warped world do you live in??

What warped world are you living in?? People who judge others get to hang out with God?? Is that where you think you will be?? You need to get a bible and read. I'll certainly be praying for you, sad that you would take so much pleasure out of hurting others in such a time. There will come a time, and I hate to say it, but this will come down on your head. You will reap what you have sown. I have already forgiven you, and if God is in Wal-Mart, then that is where I'll be, maybe you need to stop and think about how you would feel in this very instant if you knew all the facts and actually listened to the people who spoke before you, who were there, and are now living in this nightmare, I doubt you would be so self righteous. And if you can still be, knowing all the details, having spent 25 years knowing this family, being related to them, and growing up with them, you deserve to be right where you end up. No amount of prayers I offer on your behalf will be enough.

Got them, and are you kidding me. Whats to defend? These kids are retards, there is no defense, let it alone. They acted stupid,someone paid the ultimate price. The only good thing to come of this is someone can learn from it and not act so tardly. I am sorry for all the defenders loss, but you can't explain it and the more you try the more it appears that this deficiency is hereditary. STFU

why can't I get all the comments

Dr. Keegee,

You are absolutely right. The greif that this family is handling right now is pretty unbearable. But the way that things have happened are not as the people here have been portraying. It's not that simple. Preston is having a horrible time trying to live with himself, yes my nephew is dead, but an accident is an accident. People shouldn't make it worse by acting as if this was some horrible hate crime. Accidents happen, its the insane truth. People shouldn't slander others when they don't know the details of it. The real truth. This child, who was helping my nephew in so many ways, who had never been in trouble, was a straight A student, and a wonderful husband and wonderful son to his mother, and better yet, he was a positive influence in the lives of others. This accident, this can be rectified, God has a plan, our family has accepted this accident, and we are trying to do something to keep others from making the same dumb mistake. But the people here who have talked openly of things they know nothing about, they shouldn't judge, lest they be judged. Good will come out of this tragic accident, but people don't need to make this worse than it already is. Imagine if this was your child.... IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE

I know, I know. People who judge actions go to Wal-Mart...I mean Hell. People who judge souls get to hang with God.

Mike's aunt:
I know you're grief must be unbearable. Accept my condolences but regardless of whatever 'details' may be missing there are only two that stand out. 1) someone handled a gun in an irresponsible manner. 2) Someone else died because of it.

Unxdeniable Truth, you are so blinded by your self righteousness. If you think for one moment that it won't happen to you then you are more niave than even I thought possible.

Yes, he shouldn't have shown it to my nephew. He had just purchased the gun. There are so many details that are left out. I have no doubt that in the end you won't be standing next to me on the otherside, you will be to busy picken brimstone out of your ass trying to figure out how you ended up there in the first place!

Let me be the first to state the obvious, although it is probably not the popular opinion. If there was never a gun in the house, this never would have happened. So I believe that the gun owner is to blame, first and foremost. I know that won't go over well, but, maybe it should be said.

as for you Undeniable Truth, he did not go and get a gun, point it at Michael’s head.

This story would not exist if he had not. Your nephew would be alive today.

because when it does...

It won't. I know better than to point a gun in anyone's general direction while discharging a clip.

and I will not stand by and watch him be prosecuted for something that I know he never would have done intetionally...

If he's formally charged, and you love him as you say you do...I have no doubt that you WILL stand by and watch it. You know you will!

First of all, let me say that those of you who believe whole heartedly what the press reports, you need a wake up call.

I am Mike's Aunt, Preston was indeed his cousin, he was indeed discharging the clip, while Mike was looking down at his phone, they were standing face to face and the gun accidentally went off. They were indeed best friends, and yes, they were indeed blood cousins.

The reports that are in the papers are indeed not reporting all of the facts. For those of you who are making comments about them being stupid, or alcohol being involved its not the truth. Two shots of Vodka at 10:30 doesn't constitute drunk or alcohol fueled as you all make it sound.

as for you Undeniable Truth, he did not go and get a gun, point it at Michael's head. You don't know the truth, don't sit here and try to tell those who do know the truth that we are wasting our breath. The truth is never a wasted breath. If he is half a man, he will own up to what has occurred, he doesn't deny that the gun was in his hands, he did call the police and get help as quickly as he could. He did try to save my nephews life, and I will not stand by and watch him be prosecuted for something that I know he never would have done intetionally, we as a family do stand by him, Mike would never want him prosecuted for an ACCIDENT and it was nothing more than an accident. YES WE ARE AWARE THAT HE IS DEAD and believe me we mourn for him immensly. He was a wonderful, caring, smart man who loved his family more than most 20 year olds can say they do.

As far as your comment about one less gun waving retard running loose in Claremore sounding pretty good to you, I pray you never EVER have something like this occur to you, because when it does, this moment will ricoche in your mind and you will understand fully what your words have done. GOD HELP YOU ALL.

Thain, we get that this was an accident and our hearts bleed for the family of the deceased. However, this accident occurred because of irresponsibility, no matter how it's spun. There was drinking going on and - whatever Preston was trying to do is beside the point - the gun HAD to be pointed at Michael in order for him to get shot.

I know this sucks for Preston, but goddamnit, this is what happens when untrained people handle firearms in a party atmosphere, and consequence for such irresponsibility has to be paid.

It's hard for me to put myself in this kid's shoes. I would never dream of bringing a loaded gun out while people are drinking in a confined space like a livingroom (or whatever). I've handled all kinds of guns and never once for even a split second have any of them been pointed in anyone's direction.

We only hope that the people close to this tragedy are able to learn from it. I've lost not one but two people very close to me to firearm accidents... accidents that were totally preventable had these individuals observed the three most important and very basic tenets of firearm handling: Treat every gun like it's loaded; never point at someone you don't intend to shoot; employ the safety.

I'm truly sorry your friends and family had to learn such an expensive lesson.

Oh, and I don't know that many of us identify ourselves as Christians. I certainly don't.

You know, you're right. Maybe good old Gene will only formally charge him with manslaughter. If he does, I still hope your pal pleads guilty and takes it like a man. True accidents are unpreventable. This was preventable in so many ways. He did this to himself. He did this to all of you. He's the only one to blame here. As cold as that sounds, personal accountability can be a cold bitch like that most of the time.

Since you asked; if I were in his position, I'd feel like complete shit for being such a moron and taking the life of someone I love out of sheer stupidity. I'd beg them to cuff me and lock me up. In fact, I doubt I could live with myself, period.

First and foremost all you who are downing Preston need to wake up and get a clue. The newspaper left HUGE gaps out of the story and did not even print the truth. Preston did not point the gun at Mykel head/face. He was trying to drop the clip and make sure it was unloaded before he showed it to mykel. Unfortuantely Mykel was looking down and the gun misfired and Mykel got shot. At this point Preston dropped the gun and tried to save mykels life. the police were called not 10 seconds after the gun went off and the caller was still on the phone with dispatch when the police showed up. Preston ran out the door and tried to pull one of the officers out of the car to help with Mykel. The paper said he has been charghed with 2nd degree murder however he still has yet to be formally charged. Even at the scene the DA that was there along with all of the other officers said that it was nothing but a tragic accident. Mykels whole family is still solidly behind Preston and will remain that way until he is home with us all. Secondly, Yes, Preston had had 2 drinks. This was at 10:30 that evening. The shooting happened at 1:30 in the morning. I watched the police pick Preston up off the ground crying for his cousin and put him in the car in handcuffs after he had collapsed. For all of you that don't get it leave it be. Prestons wife is having a hard enough time dealing with all of this. Not only did she lose a family member that she loved like preston did (and this was like a brother) But now her husband has also been taken away from her over this very tragic ACCIDENT! For all of you who clain to be Christians, This is just the conduct i expect you to show. You and your "loving ways". Preston is already putting himself through living hell because of the accident and he doesn't even has his family to help him through it like the rest of the family does. He needs all of us to support him not distroy him even more. Finally, put yourself in his posision. How would you feel if this happened to you and you were the one who was sitting in jail over an accident like this. Yes this is a life changing event. He will never be our lively happy Preston again. I miss his easy smile and the way he always had a smile for all just to make you feel better. Our whole family is in a state of shock over this tragic ordeal. As for Mykel, he will always be remembered by all of us as a fun loving vibrant person who embraced life to the fullest each and every day of his life.

And come on over, backlash. You bring the hooch and I'll bring the hot lead.

LMFAO

I don't think there is any enlightenment to occur here. At least not on our end of the matter.

The stupidity of the parties involved in the matter is apparent. Michael Duke's body is the smoking gun. You don't have to like that statement. You can't deny it though. You could also learn a thing or two from it, if that's not too much to ask. If, however, you're simply here to collect a gold star for standing by someone whose actions you can't possibly defend...chances are you're not going to find it here.

Premeditation isn't at issue either. That's why he was charged with SECOND DEGREE MURDER, not FIRST DEGREE MURDER. You can blow and go about how "he didn't mean to kill him" all damn day. You're wasting both your time and ours. We didn't bring these charges against him (but I would if I could).

Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable "heat of passion" or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender's obvious lack of concern for human life.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/murder_s...

He went and got a gun, pointed it at Michael Duke's head and pulled the trigger. You can blow and go about how "he didn't intend to kill him" all damn day. You're wasting both your time and ours.

If he's half a man, he'll plead guilty. If you were half a friend, you'd counsel him to do so. If he can't do that, I hope they throw the book at him.

One less gun waving retard running loose in Claremore sounds pretty good to me.