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	<title>Comments on: Oops! James Ramaglia Did it Again &#8211; This Time with Mentally Disabled Adopted Son</title>
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		<title>By: Hello_Polar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello_Polar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanna say it&#039;s great to hear of people like you (&amp; your siblings),&lt;br&gt;and I&#039;m glad you could b a successful person despite your surroundings.&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s really what makes a difference in people.&lt;br&gt;We all have bad experiences but it&#039;s what we learn and &lt;br&gt;take from them that ultimately matters the most!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanna say it&#39;s great to hear of people like you (&#038; your siblings),<br />and I&#39;m glad you could b a successful person despite your surroundings.<br />That&#39;s really what makes a difference in people.<br />We all have bad experiences but it&#39;s what we learn and <br />take from them that ultimately matters the most!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The placements we have are from all income brackets, but primarily from parents who are not wealthy (or even middle class). Being poor doesn&#039;t mean that a person is going to be an abusive/neglectful parent. However, wealthier people have access to supports such as childcare that probably make parenting easier. Further, I think it&#039;s safe to assume that dealing with issues of poverty adds stress that makes good parenting more challenging. 

I don&#039;t think our agency is that unusual in that we require our social workers to make weekly visits to the foster home (the DCF requirement for vendor agencies), regardless of the bio-parent&#039;s economic status. I oversee the program, so ultimately it&#039;s my responsibility if something happens to a kid in our care &amp; I take that responsibility seriously. 

IMHO, success stories are the norm. There are about 10,000 children in foster care in Massachusetts, but you don&#039;t hear about most of them because they&#039;re in successful placements. And while the placements are successful, for some kids, you can&#039;t undo what&#039;s happened to them &amp; their circumstances plague them for life (I&#039;ve seen some stuff that makes me want to vomit when I think about it).

Despite what I&#039;ve said here, I think you&#039;re right ~ there is ALWAYS room for more diligence and more accountability. Sadly, more accountability won&#039;t fix what happened to this young disabled man, but maybe it would lead to more thorough screening of foster care parents and increased/effective communication between DCF and the Department of Corrections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The placements we have are from all income brackets, but primarily from parents who are not wealthy (or even middle class). Being poor doesn&#8217;t mean that a person is going to be an abusive/neglectful parent. However, wealthier people have access to supports such as childcare that probably make parenting easier. Further, I think it&#8217;s safe to assume that dealing with issues of poverty adds stress that makes good parenting more challenging. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think our agency is that unusual in that we require our social workers to make weekly visits to the foster home (the DCF requirement for vendor agencies), regardless of the bio-parent&#8217;s economic status. I oversee the program, so ultimately it&#8217;s my responsibility if something happens to a kid in our care &amp; I take that responsibility seriously. </p>
<p>IMHO, success stories are the norm. There are about 10,000 children in foster care in Massachusetts, but you don&#8217;t hear about most of them because they&#8217;re in successful placements. And while the placements are successful, for some kids, you can&#8217;t undo what&#8217;s happened to them &amp; their circumstances plague them for life (I&#8217;ve seen some stuff that makes me want to vomit when I think about it).</p>
<p>Despite what I&#8217;ve said here, I think you&#8217;re right ~ there is ALWAYS room for more diligence and more accountability. Sadly, more accountability won&#8217;t fix what happened to this young disabled man, but maybe it would lead to more thorough screening of foster care parents and increased/effective communication between DCF and the Department of Corrections.</p>
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		<title>By: biteme</title>
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		<dc:creator>biteme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela

Glad you&#039;ve worked hard and had successes, you probably work in a medium to high income area
Like I&#039;ve said many times, if DCF employees where supervised and administrators held accountable and did what they get paid to do we would have many more successes stories.
The success stories shouldn&#039;t be marveled at they should be the norm.  One of my main issues has to do with the deference in acceptance DCF has with issues involving tax paying well to do adults and no income food stamp children, the higher the tax bracket neighborhood you live in, the more involved and diligent DCF is.  If you can afford a high end lawyer DCF will make sure they place your child properly and visits are made regularly while you fight their removal of the child you can bet all rules will be followed.  If you&#039;re low income and unable to create real problems for DCF, they ignore the standards no one seems to give much of a dam about that crack heads baby, just place it anywhere and never bother going back for the required visits, that crack head can&#039;t create problems for DCF or employees anyhow.  Unless somehow some reporter finds out the baby&#039;s been dead for years and the foster parent is still collecting, than it&#039;s a real tragedy and DCF is so overworked, but if the baby disappeared but the foster parent stopped collecting the checks, no one cares especially DCF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela</p>
<p>Glad you&#8217;ve worked hard and had successes, you probably work in a medium to high income area<br />
Like I&#8217;ve said many times, if DCF employees where supervised and administrators held accountable and did what they get paid to do we would have many more successes stories.<br />
The success stories shouldn&#8217;t be marveled at they should be the norm.  One of my main issues has to do with the deference in acceptance DCF has with issues involving tax paying well to do adults and no income food stamp children, the higher the tax bracket neighborhood you live in, the more involved and diligent DCF is.  If you can afford a high end lawyer DCF will make sure they place your child properly and visits are made regularly while you fight their removal of the child you can bet all rules will be followed.  If you&#8217;re low income and unable to create real problems for DCF, they ignore the standards no one seems to give much of a dam about that crack heads baby, just place it anywhere and never bother going back for the required visits, that crack head can&#8217;t create problems for DCF or employees anyhow.  Unless somehow some reporter finds out the baby&#8217;s been dead for years and the foster parent is still collecting, than it&#8217;s a real tragedy and DCF is so overworked, but if the baby disappeared but the foster parent stopped collecting the checks, no one cares especially DCF</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for an agency that is contracted by the Massachusetts DCF to oversee foster care placements throughout the state. The minors that we work with are considered &quot;intensive,&quot; meaning that they have pervasive medical and/or psychosocial issues that make placement in a typical foster family difficult. 

Foster families go through an extensive and lengthy screening process that includes a check of the criminal background of all family members over the age of 14. There is an interview process and references are checked. There is a home inspection to ensure that the home is suitable in terms of safety and upkeep. Potential foster parents are required to attend more than 30 hours of training before they are considered ready for placement. 

As providers of support, we are required to make weekly visits to the home. These visits typically last at least an hour. The social workers are also intensely involved to ensure that the child gets the supports (medical, psychological, educational) he/she needs for a successful placement.

Reunification with the bio family IS the goal of all placements. In some cases, it&#039;s clear that reunification probably won&#039;t happen, but as service providers we are required to foster the parental relationship through all reasonable means even if those means are invasive to the bio family (supervised visits, etc.). 

I can tell you that it&#039;s a sad business. There are children out there who are horrifically abused in ways that would curl your hair if you read the case files. There are also cases where the custodial parent has a mental health issue that is so pervasive that they simply don&#039;t have the ability to care for themselves and their children. In this regard, it&#039;s not a case of the parent not wanting the child(ren). It&#039;s usually quite the opposite.

My understanding in the case is that the Department of Corrections has some role in okaying the man to be in a home with children as long as he stayed away from the children he originally assaulted (information from the rumor mill in the human services industry in Massachusetts, so this is not confirmed). Agencies such as the one I work for have a small amount of latitude to ask for a waiver to allow people with old criminal histories or prior DCF involvement to become foster parents (i.e., a potential foster parent had a DUI 20 years ago and has had no other criminal activity since then may be considered for service). These waivers must be approved by DCF.

When thinking about this situation, I am torn. While sexual abuse is clearly reprehensible, being aware of sexual abuse and not reporting may be even more unforgivable. 

There are thousands of foster care placements in Massachusetts. I am not excusing what happened here because it&#039;s inexcusable. However, I think you have to consider that most of those other thousands of placements are successful and the children are not subject to any type of abuse.

PS ~ To answer someone&#039;s question: In Massachusetts, intensive foster care parents are paid $50 per day, which covers feeding and housing the child. Each child also gets a quarterly clothing allowance. I believe that typical foster care pays approximately $20 per day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for an agency that is contracted by the Massachusetts DCF to oversee foster care placements throughout the state. The minors that we work with are considered &#8220;intensive,&#8221; meaning that they have pervasive medical and/or psychosocial issues that make placement in a typical foster family difficult. </p>
<p>Foster families go through an extensive and lengthy screening process that includes a check of the criminal background of all family members over the age of 14. There is an interview process and references are checked. There is a home inspection to ensure that the home is suitable in terms of safety and upkeep. Potential foster parents are required to attend more than 30 hours of training before they are considered ready for placement. </p>
<p>As providers of support, we are required to make weekly visits to the home. These visits typically last at least an hour. The social workers are also intensely involved to ensure that the child gets the supports (medical, psychological, educational) he/she needs for a successful placement.</p>
<p>Reunification with the bio family IS the goal of all placements. In some cases, it&#8217;s clear that reunification probably won&#8217;t happen, but as service providers we are required to foster the parental relationship through all reasonable means even if those means are invasive to the bio family (supervised visits, etc.). </p>
<p>I can tell you that it&#8217;s a sad business. There are children out there who are horrifically abused in ways that would curl your hair if you read the case files. There are also cases where the custodial parent has a mental health issue that is so pervasive that they simply don&#8217;t have the ability to care for themselves and their children. In this regard, it&#8217;s not a case of the parent not wanting the child(ren). It&#8217;s usually quite the opposite.</p>
<p>My understanding in the case is that the Department of Corrections has some role in okaying the man to be in a home with children as long as he stayed away from the children he originally assaulted (information from the rumor mill in the human services industry in Massachusetts, so this is not confirmed). Agencies such as the one I work for have a small amount of latitude to ask for a waiver to allow people with old criminal histories or prior DCF involvement to become foster parents (i.e., a potential foster parent had a DUI 20 years ago and has had no other criminal activity since then may be considered for service). These waivers must be approved by DCF.</p>
<p>When thinking about this situation, I am torn. While sexual abuse is clearly reprehensible, being aware of sexual abuse and not reporting may be even more unforgivable. </p>
<p>There are thousands of foster care placements in Massachusetts. I am not excusing what happened here because it&#8217;s inexcusable. However, I think you have to consider that most of those other thousands of placements are successful and the children are not subject to any type of abuse.</p>
<p>PS ~ To answer someone&#8217;s question: In Massachusetts, intensive foster care parents are paid $50 per day, which covers feeding and housing the child. Each child also gets a quarterly clothing allowance. I believe that typical foster care pays approximately $20 per day.</p>
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		<title>By: biteme</title>
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		<dc:creator>biteme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPS hard at work

http://www.flcourier.com/news/2009-07-17/Florida_News/Florida_caseworkers_lied_about_efforts_to_protect_.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPS hard at work</p>
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		<title>By: biteme</title>
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		<dc:creator>biteme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10:06 pm on August 27th, 2009
Probably a stupid question, but could the Department of Children and Family Services be charged with something as well?
This shit is ridiculous.

NO! because DCF or by any other name, is a teflon agency, that investigates itself and never finds itself culpable of any wrong doing, no reprimands, no firing, just on to the next &quot;NO fault&quot; disaster.  it&#039;s amazing how dysfunctional CPS or whatever name, no accountability, no responsibility, unsupervised chaos, Never learns from their mistakes because they don&#039;t have to, they&#039;re untouchable.  Administrators collect their paycheck your taxes and answer to no one. Caseworkers claim to monthly visit people that&#039;ve been dead for years and when found out they&#039;ve been falsifying paperwork are they fired NO! Some actually got promoted.  Their self investigation didn&#039;t find any wrong doing!
LOL!  What a sick joke CPS is.  When an agency investigates itself there is no accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10:06 pm on August 27th, 2009<br />
Probably a stupid question, but could the Department of Children and Family Services be charged with something as well?<br />
This shit is ridiculous.</p>
<p>NO! because DCF or by any other name, is a teflon agency, that investigates itself and never finds itself culpable of any wrong doing, no reprimands, no firing, just on to the next &#8220;NO fault&#8221; disaster.  it&#8217;s amazing how dysfunctional CPS or whatever name, no accountability, no responsibility, unsupervised chaos, Never learns from their mistakes because they don&#8217;t have to, they&#8217;re untouchable.  Administrators collect their paycheck your taxes and answer to no one. Caseworkers claim to monthly visit people that&#8217;ve been dead for years and when found out they&#8217;ve been falsifying paperwork are they fired NO! Some actually got promoted.  Their self investigation didn&#8217;t find any wrong doing!<br />
LOL!  What a sick joke CPS is.  When an agency investigates itself there is no accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: Radly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably a stupid question, but could the Department of Children and Family Services be charged with something as well? 

This shit is ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably a stupid question, but could the Department of Children and Family Services be charged with something as well? </p>
<p>This shit is ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Abroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they just decide they didn&#039;t need to take as much care with the screening process because this young man was mentally challenged? When I think about the intrusiveness of the adoption processes I have had a chance to witness through friends and relatives.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did they just decide they didn&#8217;t need to take as much care with the screening process because this young man was mentally challenged? When I think about the intrusiveness of the adoption processes I have had a chance to witness through friends and relatives&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NoWhining</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoWhining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Touche’ Sometimes choice was all I had. I chose to mend my ways, dad chose to mend his,and we chose to love each other. Happy ending.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s excellent! And a lot better than the alternative. 

Peace,
NW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Touche’ Sometimes choice was all I had. I chose to mend my ways, dad chose to mend his,and we chose to love each other. Happy ending.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s excellent! And a lot better than the alternative. </p>
<p>Peace,<br />
NW</p>
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		<title>By: runnergirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>runnergirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What. The. Fuck.  Epic FAIL on everyone involved!!</description>
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		<title>By: granny-g</title>
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		<dc:creator>granny-g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of how did this PERV get this child?????
I am now going through hoops with DFACS to gain custody
of four children. My husband of 26 years and I have had
to take drug test, background check, home visits and have
supervised visits every few weeks. 
These are things we are willingly doing, and if they ask more 
we will strive to accomplish whatever to get these children.
We have done nothing wrong, they are not our children. 
They are our grandchildren. 
We are going throug an extream process to get our very
loved grandchildren out of foster care. 
We have been at this for 7 months now. 
I cannot understand how this &quot;family&quot; was able to get this child
unless someone dropped the ball. They gave custody to a complete
stranger with out looking into his life???
We have had our lives disected and put on display and we are the grandparents. 
Also I must comment that not everyone that takes custody of 
children is in it for the money. To assure that our grandchildren
can have a childhood. To be certain they know that they are loved
and cherished no matter what we are pretty much choosing to give
up retiring and raise them as they deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of how did this PERV get this child?????<br />
I am now going through hoops with DFACS to gain custody<br />
of four children. My husband of 26 years and I have had<br />
to take drug test, background check, home visits and have<br />
supervised visits every few weeks.<br />
These are things we are willingly doing, and if they ask more<br />
we will strive to accomplish whatever to get these children.<br />
We have done nothing wrong, they are not our children.<br />
They are our grandchildren.<br />
We are going throug an extream process to get our very<br />
loved grandchildren out of foster care.<br />
We have been at this for 7 months now.<br />
I cannot understand how this &#8220;family&#8221; was able to get this child<br />
unless someone dropped the ball. They gave custody to a complete<br />
stranger with out looking into his life???<br />
We have had our lives disected and put on display and we are the grandparents.<br />
Also I must comment that not everyone that takes custody of<br />
children is in it for the money. To assure that our grandchildren<br />
can have a childhood. To be certain they know that they are loved<br />
and cherished no matter what we are pretty much choosing to give<br />
up retiring and raise them as they deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: redsaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>redsaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touche&#039;  Sometimes choice was all I had.  I chose to mend my ways, dad chose to mend his,and we chose to love each other. Happy ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche&#8217;  Sometimes choice was all I had.  I chose to mend my ways, dad chose to mend his,and we chose to love each other. Happy ending.</p>
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		<title>By: NoWhining</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoWhining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;V and NW: really, I am very happy you to have become happy adults. It truly makes my day. It is stories like yours that become therapy for me. Success stories = one scar healed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can&#039;t speak for V, of course, but she seems to be of the same mind set. 

I just simply decided early on that this (the way I was raised) was not normal. I also never really felt like a victim. Oh maybe as a young child I wondered why this all was happening. As an adult?  I&#039;d be damned if I was going to let what these people did to me, dictate what I did with my life.
Why would I destroy my life just to show them?? Seemed silly to me. Made no sense. 

I get so sick of people saying &quot;well, my dad was a drunk, so I am, too:..or &quot;I was raised in filth, so I don&#039;t know any different.&quot; &quot;My dad beat me, so I beat my own kids.&quot; The list goes on and on. I hate, hate, hate these kinds of excuses for bad behaviour. 

Anyone CAN rise above adversity. Is it hard? Yes it is. But anything worth having is worth working hard for. 

I always like the story of the man and his twin sons.  The father was a long time loser; always in and out of prison.  One son was a successful accountant, with a home, a wife, children, 2 cars in the driveway, etc.

The other son was a criminal and always in and out of prison. 

The son in prison was asked:&quot;Why are you constantly in trouble and in prison?&quot; He responded, &quot;Well, with a father like I had - what do you expect?&quot;

The other son was asked:&quot;How is it that you earned a degree, own a beautiful home, have a wife and children, etc.?&quot; He responded, &quot;Well, with a father like I had - what do you expect?&quot;

It&#039;s all about choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>V and NW: really, I am very happy you to have become happy adults. It truly makes my day. It is stories like yours that become therapy for me. Success stories = one scar healed.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for V, of course, but she seems to be of the same mind set. </p>
<p>I just simply decided early on that this (the way I was raised) was not normal. I also never really felt like a victim. Oh maybe as a young child I wondered why this all was happening. As an adult?  I&#8217;d be damned if I was going to let what these people did to me, dictate what I did with my life.<br />
Why would I destroy my life just to show them?? Seemed silly to me. Made no sense. </p>
<p>I get so sick of people saying &#8220;well, my dad was a drunk, so I am, too:..or &#8220;I was raised in filth, so I don&#8217;t know any different.&#8221; &#8220;My dad beat me, so I beat my own kids.&#8221; The list goes on and on. I hate, hate, hate these kinds of excuses for bad behaviour. </p>
<p>Anyone CAN rise above adversity. Is it hard? Yes it is. But anything worth having is worth working hard for. </p>
<p>I always like the story of the man and his twin sons.  The father was a long time loser; always in and out of prison.  One son was a successful accountant, with a home, a wife, children, 2 cars in the driveway, etc.</p>
<p>The other son was a criminal and always in and out of prison. </p>
<p>The son in prison was asked:&#8221;Why are you constantly in trouble and in prison?&#8221; He responded, &#8220;Well, with a father like I had &#8211; what do you expect?&#8221;</p>
<p>The other son was asked:&#8221;How is it that you earned a degree, own a beautiful home, have a wife and children, etc.?&#8221; He responded, &#8220;Well, with a father like I had &#8211; what do you expect?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about choice.</p>
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		<title>By: redsaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>redsaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can&#039;t choose our family (mine&#039;s still all fucked up) but thanks the heavens that we can choose our friends.  

I also ran away several times until I was 14 and finally then I was gone until I was 16.  I found good people and good friends who took me in, each for a period of time.  I only decided to go home when street life started threaten my life.  I was very lucky in that I was able to come to terms with my dad.  It took a long time but when he died we had forgiven each other and loved each other very much.  So rare.  Doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t have scars, they never heal.  But I got past them enough to have a great relationship with my dad. (he quit hitting me, but he could still make me cringe)  

SickenEd;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;.. Secondly, I think it’s fair to throw things like this in at times.. Kinda helps the rest of us understand where the other person is coming from when discussing certain topics&lt;blockquote&gt;

I couldn&#039;t agree more.

V and NW:  really, I am very happy you to have become happy adults.  It truly makes my day. It is stories like yours that become therapy for me.  Success stories = one scar healed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t choose our family (mine&#8217;s still all fucked up) but thanks the heavens that we can choose our friends.  </p>
<p>I also ran away several times until I was 14 and finally then I was gone until I was 16.  I found good people and good friends who took me in, each for a period of time.  I only decided to go home when street life started threaten my life.  I was very lucky in that I was able to come to terms with my dad.  It took a long time but when he died we had forgiven each other and loved each other very much.  So rare.  Doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t have scars, they never heal.  But I got past them enough to have a great relationship with my dad. (he quit hitting me, but he could still make me cringe)  </p>
<p>SickenEd;<br />
.. Secondly, I think it’s fair to throw things like this in at times.. Kinda helps the rest of us understand where the other person is coming from when discussing certain topics<br />
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>V and NW:  really, I am very happy you to have become happy adults.  It truly makes my day. It is stories like yours that become therapy for me.  Success stories = one scar healed.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Veronica.. First off, let me start by saying how terribly sorry I am that you had to go through this. NOBODY deserves that kind of childhood.. Secondly, I think it’s fair to throw things like this in at times.. Kinda helps the rest of us understand where the other person is coming from when discussing certain topics. I’m glad you are well now, and must say you are a far more forgiving person than me, and I truly admire that. Hope all the rest of your life treats you well :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;V – Good for you for seeing through all the bs for what it is. Sometimes you just have to let people alone to wallow in their own crap rather than let them bring you down. These people thrive to pull others down – whether they gave birth to us or not!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks guys.  I too like to hear people&#039;s personal stories as it lends a different perspective.

And I agree with you, NoWhining, sometimes you just have to let toxic people go.  I&#039;m not saying I&#039;ll never speak to my mom again, but the ball is definitely in HER court, and even if I do let her back in, she&#039;ll be on thin ice indefinitely, I&#039;m afraid.  She is one of those people who thinks the fact that I popped out of her womb gives her the right to treat me however she sees fit, and she is also under the mistaken impression that she is OWED respect simply for giving birth to me.  I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Veronica.. First off, let me start by saying how terribly sorry I am that you had to go through this. NOBODY deserves that kind of childhood.. Secondly, I think it’s fair to throw things like this in at times.. Kinda helps the rest of us understand where the other person is coming from when discussing certain topics. I’m glad you are well now, and must say you are a far more forgiving person than me, and I truly admire that. Hope all the rest of your life treats you well <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>V – Good for you for seeing through all the bs for what it is. Sometimes you just have to let people alone to wallow in their own crap rather than let them bring you down. These people thrive to pull others down – whether they gave birth to us or not!</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks guys.  I too like to hear people&#8217;s personal stories as it lends a different perspective.</p>
<p>And I agree with you, NoWhining, sometimes you just have to let toxic people go.  I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;ll never speak to my mom again, but the ball is definitely in HER court, and even if I do let her back in, she&#8217;ll be on thin ice indefinitely, I&#8217;m afraid.  She is one of those people who thinks the fact that I popped out of her womb gives her the right to treat me however she sees fit, and she is also under the mistaken impression that she is OWED respect simply for giving birth to me.  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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