Thanks, ecvmanzo. This guy might not be as hilarious as some of our favorite clueless teeny bopper tard defenders, but he's a hell of a lot more disturbing. I'd laugh him off completely if I didn't know that cowards like him are exactly the type who are prone to violence against women. And I have no doubt that "anotherdad" has battered or threatened at least one other woman in his lifetime.

***applauding Veronica****

“the fact that the court system is biased towards women in divorce and custody cases” – Veronica

That was my point. Plenty of women abuse the system. I agree that the dad is a douchebag for killing PERIOD. NO woman is worth that.

There are women that are abused that need protective orders. There are a LOT of women that aren’t abused that don’t need protective orders that get them by simply saying they are abused. That’s where I have a problem.

PS…I didn’t say she was a whore…I said she could be…but I don’t know…and neither do you. Just being the devils advocate.

PS……no need to get your panties in a wad girls. Thank god this is the internet….a minute more and I would have probably been beaten and than you could have taken out a protective order. ;)

You are very clearly a vile misogynist. I don't know what happened in your life to make you hate women so much, but after reading your mean-spirited diatribes, I have no doubt that the women who have spurned you had a VERY good reason for it. At the very least, I have your own words to back that up, whereas you had nary ONE valid reason for even beginning to suggest that this woman was a "whore."

In your mind, I'm sure you think that you're being magnanimous by giving this murdered woman the "benefit of the doubt" that she wasn't a whore who got what was coming to her. Those of us without obvious raging personality disorders know better.

I'm not sure why you're so damn worked up about protective orders, anyway. They're worth shit. If some psychopath is determined to murder his wife or girlfriend, he's going to do it anyway. That you think that the system of granting protective orders as a way of dealing with domestic violence is TOO DEFERENTIAL TO THE WOMAN speaks volumes.

I think my absolute favorite part, though, is when you suggest that the guy shouldn't have brutally murdered his wife in front of their kids not because it's inherently wrong, but because "no woman is worth that." Fucking priceless.

BTW, you very clearly have YOUR panties in a wad, and it's yet another example of your misogynism that you would put it that way. When a man expresses himself, he's "telling it like it is," and when women express themselves in a way that's anything less than completely deferential to the man, they're shrewish bitches who need to calm down.

Go play devil's advocate on some sad little "men's rights" forum or something, where pathetic, misogynist dicks like you can blame womankind for everything that has gone wrong in your lives in the warm company of like-minded, pathetic souls. Peace.

PS......no need to get your panties in a wad girls. Thank god this is the internet....a minute more and I would have probably been beaten and than you could have taken out a protective order. ;)

"the fact that the court system is biased towards women in divorce and custody cases" - Veronica

That was my point. Plenty of women abuse the system. I agree that the dad is a douchebag for killing PERIOD. NO woman is worth that.

There are women that are abused that need protective orders. There are a LOT of women that aren't abused that don't need protective orders that get them by simply saying they are abused. That's where I have a problem.

PS...I didn't say she was a whore...I said she could be...but I don't know...and neither do you. Just being the devils advocate.

I’m gonna wager a guess that you a protective order placed on you right this very second, and that you a very bitter man, who wants nothing more to get back the woman who has the order on you.

BINGO!

Protective orders are given out so freely to women now.

Bullshit. Been there, done that. Freely ain't the word.

The courts should be ordering counseling instead of breaking up families.

Yeah...I imagine homie way WAY into counseling. Someone shoulda called Oprah!

Protective orders are given out so freely to women now. The wife could have been a whore for all we know. All she had to do was claim verbal abuse with no history of violence to get a protective order…whether it was true or not.

She would be allowed to continue to be a whore while getting paid by the father…and in the meantime the father has his children and everything he owns taken away from him…without a fair trial. This is a very plausible scenario which could explain why the father gave up and decided to kill her since she had taken everything away from him.

I concur with Veronica. You are a fucking idiot. Moron even...

I'm gonna wager a guess that you a protective order placed on you right this very second, and that you a very bitter man, who wants nothing more to get back the woman who has the order on you.

It's not as easy as you think. I've gone through it, my best friend has gone through it, with the same assbag. He threatened to kill me because I got my best friend away from his abusive ass. So are we both whores?

Fuck off.

ps -- tags, I hate you.

Lets try this again, so that I can both cure my OCD over the misplaced tags and drive the point home to anotherdad, the murderer-coddling moron:

You are a fucking idiot. This is not a story about dads getting a raw deal in the court system, this is about a guy who brutally murdered his wife in front of their kids. Yet somehow, you think the fact that the court system is biased towards women in divorce and custody cases means that, a, the VICTIM in this case was likely a lying whore, and that, b, anyone should give a shit what this psycho’s “reasoning” was for said brutal murder. You don’t even know shit about this woman you are calling a probably whore, but even if you did it wouldn’t make your take on this any less despicable.

Go to hell.

She would be allowed to continue to be a whore while getting paid by the father…and in the meantime the father has his children and everything he owns taken away from him…without a fair trial. This is a very plausible scenario which could explain why the father gave up and decided to kill her since she had taken everything away from him.

You are a fucking idiot. This is not a story about dads getting a raw deal in the court system, this is about a guy who brutally murdered his wife in front of their kids. Yet somehow, you think the fact that the court system is biased towards women in divorce and custody cases means that, a, the VICTIM in this case was likely a lying whore, and that, b, anyone should give a shit what this psycho's "reasoning" was for said brutal murder. You don't even know shit about this woman you are calling a probably whore, but even if you did it wouldn't make your take on this any less despicable.

Go to hell.

"The killing came just two days after Angela obtained a two-year extension on a protective order to keep Joseph away from her and their kids. The 13-year marriage she shared with Joseph was a rocky one, and once the divorce proceedings began, Angela began preparing to move to Hawaii"

Protective orders are given out so freely to women now. The wife could have been a whore for all we know. All she had to do was claim verbal abuse with no history of violence to get a protective order...whether it was true or not.

She would be allowed to continue to be a whore while getting paid by the father...and in the meantime the father has his children and everything he owns taken away from him...without a fair trial. This is a very plausible scenario which could explain why the father gave up and decided to kill her since she had taken everything away from him.

There is a HUGE gender bias geared toward women in this country right now.

The courts should be ordering counseling instead of breaking up families.

Unfortunately this is going to continue to happen with our Divorce geared system.

Angela Warnock was too beautiful, inside and out, for this butt-ugly and evil neanderthal... I'll be praying for swift and severe justice to be served on this horse-faced selfish coward of a human!
Angelas girls have got a tough road ahead them, I pray they have their Moms strength, dignity and grace!

Here (from Hawaii news) is the latest on this tragedy: http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090625_forme...

Angela Warnock's brother, Benjamin Miller, said in a telephone interview from Indiana yesterday that his sister planned to move back to Kauai with her two daughters on July 2.
"Her stuff is already arriving at my parents' house on Kauai," he said.

In 1990 she entered her first beauty pageant and won the title of Miss Kauai, which inspired her to model in Milan, Italy, for a short while.

Angela became a hands-on mom and was passionate about coaching her daughter's basketball team, said Miller.

Photos of Angela with the girls there,too!

Thank you. I have a problem with the policeman’s characterisation of the case as well. A crime of passion is something that happens in the heat of the moment, not something the perpetrator has been stewing on for a couple of days and which requires breaking into a home.

We have another word for that: Pre-meditated.

Me three. I felt a wave of revulsion reading that. It actually managed to momentarily shift my disgust from the murdering piece of shit to the cop. A "crime of passion" would be if he came home one day and found his wife in bed with another man, and went nuts. He broke into the house with the express purpose of murdering his wife and wasn't phased in the least by the presence of his children. That is some seriously cold-blooded shit.

The cop is a fucking idiot. That crime of passion shit sounds like something cooked up by a defense attorney trying to prevent his guilty-as-hell client from getting the death penalty. But this from a cop? Why did he feel compelled to even characterize this crime anyway? It almost seems as if the cop was implying that this murdering asshole had a valid reason for being pissed off enough to kill.

Grrrrr...sorry, that REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. I'm sure Joseph really appreciates you helping to give his defense attorney a head start. Moron.

RIP Angela. Hopefully the bastard that did this to you will die in prison and your girls will never have to see him again.

How pathetic do you have to be,to commit a crime on someone just because they don't want your crazy fucking ass? Now these 2 girls will forever have those memories etched in their minds.

You are a piece of shit, Joseph Warnock. Nobody wants you, nobody

That’s not a crime of passion. A crime of passion would be if he walked in on his wife giving his brother a blowjob. This is a crime of a selfish, jealous scumball who thinks he has some ownership over other human beings.

Thank you. I have a problem with the policeman's characterisation of the case as well. A crime of passion is something that happens in the heat of the moment, not something the perpetrator has been stewing on for a couple of days and which requires breaking into a home.

We have another word for that: Pre-meditated.

Sometimes I believe those restraining orders do more harm than good. They just serve to piss off the assholes more. RIP Angela

This is pitiful! Now these little girls have no parents. Bless their hearts. This lady tried to get help, but then again it's just a piece of paper. What a selfish POS! Hope he get the death penalty. Even if he does, he's still got at least 10 years to breath. The mother doesn't!

My dad came in and I think he killed my mom.

I think I just heard where my heart broke in half! That poor mother fighting for her life, worried he would get to the girls....her last moments on earth were unspeakable.

The cop should know better. That's not a crime of passion. A crime of passion would be if he walked in on his wife giving his brother a blowjob. This is a crime of a selfish, jealous scumball who thinks he has some ownership over other human beings. I hope those girls get some serious professional help. And, I seriously hope that the defense attorney doesn't use that cop's words to try and exonerate this creep.