Four Teen Boys Accused Of Raping Teammate
May 11, 2009 by Jaded
Odessa, Florida–Something nasty has been going down in the locker room at Walker Middle School. Four teens, Randall John Moye, 14, Raymond Price-Murray, 14, Lee Louis Myers, 14, and Diamante Roberts, 15, are being accused of raping another student with a broom handle and a hockey stick.
Randall John Moye, Raymond Price-Murray, Lee Louis Myers, Diamante Roberts
All five teens involved are on the same flag football team. The victim, a 13-year-old boy, was continually harassed and bullied between MarchMarch reviews
15 and May 5. The bullies stepped it up a notch on April 30…two of the teens pinned the victim down on the locker room floor, and the other two raped him with a broom handle and a hockey stick. The victim said nothing about the attack, or the two months of previous bullying, until after an incident Tuesday night at the school.
Tuesday evening, the flag football coach noticed something was wrong when the victim acted strangely towards some teammates during a game…there was some pushing and some yelling. When the coach took him aside, the boy said, ‘I’m just sick of this.’ He said the others had been bothering him and had hit him with a hockey stick. Following up on the incident the next morning, the coach had the bullies sit down and write out their version of the events that happened in the locker room. ‘In their written statements, at least one of the students described a situation involving the hockey stick,’ said school Superintendent Mary Ellen Elia. The victim was then interviewed and the whole ugly story came out.
The four teens were arrested on Wednesday. All four are facing charges of false imprisonment and sexual assault. All four will be charged as adults. Of course, the bullies have their defenders. I suggest checking out the source link, interesting reading there.
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6:51 am on May 11th, 2009
Defenders? Seriously? I don’t care how annoying a kid may be or WHATEVER, you don’t gang up on him 4 against one and stick things in his ass.
Maybe if they let these little boys play TACKLE football, they could have worked out all their homosexual aggression with each other in a safe and mutually agreeable way.
9:01 am on May 11th, 2009
Everyone of them looks like they would be a pain in the ass.
9:10 am on May 11th, 2009
Agreed. And since they “went there” it’s time to make an example of them. Turn-about being fair play and all. Have shop class make 4 stands with a single wooden pole (broomstick?) up through the middle of each one and plant these role model flag-football players on the stick – line them down the main school hall. Talk about a lasting impression…
Ooh, could be a PTO fundraiser exhibit also. Schools are always looking for ways to make money.
9:18 am on May 11th, 2009
Groan.
9:41 am on May 11th, 2009
Just looking at the face pics, Randall looks like the main bully in Eden Lake.
10:28 am on May 11th, 2009
LOL a defender in the comments says: I can’t wait until the real story comes out after the investigation is done and all of you look so ignorant.
Comedy writes itself. WHAT excuse could anyone come up with that makes gang banging with hockey sticks and broom handles OK?
10:34 am on May 11th, 2009
fucken pussies, wish them GP, and lots of sleepless nights
Bubba these pussies are for u, enjoy. May all their defenders get fucked in the ass with a baseball bat!
10:51 am on May 11th, 2009
Seriously!
I understand teenage bullying, it happens everywhere, but what is up lately with the male on male gang bang assaults????
11:27 am on May 11th, 2009
I never get this type of bullying. I understand extreme humiliation and all that, but back in my day, if you touched another boy’s asshole – even if it was with a 100-yard-long pole – you were nothing more than a repressed, self-loathing homosexual.
12:45 pm on May 11th, 2009
I have to agree with every post thus far.
No matter WHAT the “story” nothing would make this
sound RIGHT. Parents of the little perv rapists……get your boys some help
they are sexual offenders. NON-OFFENDERS do not suddenly
decide to annaly rape someone. Most teen age boys do not sit around and
dream up this type attack. The average teen age boy if having had enough
of an irritating peer would just smack the crap out of him.
NOT ONCE THINK ” hey maybe I should stick something up his ass”
Your kids are sick and if you think what they did was alright
then you too are sick.
12:55 pm on May 11th, 2009
5:25 pm on May 11th, 2009
The rape was the final act of the teasing and tormenting that this poor boy went through. An act of humilation to give these pricks power. Won’t they be surprised when they get to prison.
On another noe, kudos to the coach for talking to the victim and finding out the truth. Bullying is not kids being kids, it leaves a lasting impact on the victims.
5:26 pm on May 11th, 2009
If any of these guys willingly slept with a 30 year old woman, she would be considered by many here to be a pedophile and a rapist, and they would be victims (only 14!), too young and innnocent to consent to sex. But when they’re accused of raping another boy, they are considered adults, old enough to be held accountable for their actions, and old enough for their pictures to be posted on the internet alongside the accusation.
Does this confuse anyone else?
5:32 pm on May 11th, 2009
Yeah from the looks of it they’re guilty and people actually proclaim that they were wrongly accused. But what I don’t get is how do you accuse someone if they confessed? From what I understand is that one of them confessed or turned info on the 2 who did the raping. And thus they had to ask the kid if he got a broom up his butt…and I believe the kid said “yeah i was raped with a broomstick handle and a hockey stick” Nobody but the rapists admitted it. So how is that their friends i.e. Family, girlfriends and apparently old ass neighbors who think that anyone who brings in the groceries qualifies for a boy scout…thinks that they are wrongly accused? Go after one of them who admitted it in their SIGNED, WRITTEN, CONFESSION. UGH!! I hope they make them sign up as sex offenders for life and then throw them in the pokey with their fellow sex offenders so they can feel a pokey in the pokey!!
5:37 pm on May 11th, 2009
No it doesn’t…I don’t know about you but when I was 14 I knew full and well what was the difference between right and wrong. And if you say you didn’t know that raping someone with a hockey stick is wrong,…you have a very low IQ and obviously are developmentally disabled. They are being charged as adults because of the specific Malice and Forethought of holding someone down and raping them anally. If you still didn’t know that was wrong at 14, you should be seeking some help. Sorry if that’s mean but if your 13 yr old was raped by a 14 yr old I highly doubt you would want them all released cuz its all in good fun right? COME ON..what would have happened if they ruptured his insides and killed him? What cuz they’re 14 they should be let go cuz theyre not 18? Rape is Rape. Murder is Murder. Gang raping a teen is not ok at any age. PERIOD.
5:44 pm on May 11th, 2009
Yes.
Unfortunately, DAs are neither psychologists or biologists. The juvenile justice system was created nearly 100 years ago because even back then, people understood that minors do not have the same faculties as adults. We’re getting away from that as a result of sheer vengence and emotionalism and the ignorant misconception that kids are “growing up faster these days”.
Sure, the juvenile system is plagued by short and often ineffective sentencing. But the solution to that is to reevaluate and bolster the juvenile system, NOT treat juvenile offenders as adults.
5:51 pm on May 11th, 2009
So what is your response to handling 14 yr old gang rapists ? Shall we let them go? TO run free and rape the other children in the neighborhood, or do they get a Free GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card … A DO OVER … A MULLIGAN. At the expense of the tortured, bullied, raped 13 yr old? Where is his justice why are we focused on how wrongly these 14 yr olds are being charged in adult court? HELLO 13 YR OLD BOY RAPED !! Why do we keep missing that?
5:55 pm on May 11th, 2009
LMAO. Case-in-point.
Do you honestly think the alternative to charging them as adults is simply not charging them at all?
I get what you’re saying – obviously, sodomy of this nature IS wrong at any age. But it doesn’t carry the same stigma as it did when Morbid was a kid.
Anyone watch any of the Jackass movies, or any of the movies produced by Bam Margera? In the most recent one I watched, Where The #$&% is Santa (2008), a group of them sodomized a member of their crew with a reindeer penis. No one brought up on charges – hell, no one was even mad about it. They all laughed and had a good time. This is by no means the only such example of sodomizing a peer found in these movies.
I’m not suggesting that movies like this cause behavior like this, or that this act is somehow less serious because it’s happened in movies without consequence. My point is that, to the young, hyper-impulsive mind, the severity of the act IS skewed a bit by these representations being made by their heroes.
Kids don’t grasp consequences or severity like adults do. It’s exactly why we consider them incapable of getting a driver’s license, working 40 hours a week or choosing who they can have sex with without “protecting” them from predatory adults.
We can’t have it both ways. Either they’re capable of understanding consequence and exercising good judgment… or they’re not.
6:05 pm on May 11th, 2009
6:06 pm on May 11th, 2009
Right…but my point is exactly the same. Regardless of age, they know shoving a hockey stick up someones butt is not ok. WHich is the same reason YOU and I have not done it. Which seperates the degenerates from the normal people like you …and … me. Therefore…they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt..because they fail to understand the consequence. Ignorance is never an excuse. Failing to realize that you go to jail because you blow someone’s head off is not a reason NOT to send you to jail. However, The problem is that that in Jackass…those were friends, not only friends but he made PLENTY Of money to have something DEAD shoved up his butt. I see that as voluntary and shouldn’t even be compared.. The kid is not an actor, is not paid and was not voluntary. He was in hockey after school. Again, what if this 13 yr old kid was murdered in the process? Would it be overlooked because they failed to realize the repercussions of raping someone with an inanimate object that is 4 feet long?
IGNORANCE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE…..
There were no adults here, no paid actors, just kids at an after school program.
And yes throw them in the slammer till their dicks fall off. I am totally ok with that. I don’t care if his mother IS a police officer of the 2nd one. She should have taught her son better than to rape his teammates.
6:27 pm on May 11th, 2009
I asked my 13-year-old about this. He was with a group of his friends. They told me that for a boy to mess with another boy’s asshole for any reason was – in there words – gay.
6:54 pm on May 11th, 2009
Morbid, you are the only one to make me laugh on this topic. Kudos to you!
7:01 pm on May 11th, 2009
#1, the legal term you meant is “malice aforethought”, not malice AND forethought, and it doesn’t mean what you think.
#2, anyone who could read what I wrote and come to the conclusion that I think anally raping someone with a hockey stick is okay should be cautious throwing around the terms “low I.Q.” and “developmentally disabled.” Just sayin’…
My comment was about the difference in how we view people of this age. If I, as a 30 year old woman, were to have consentual sex with one of these guys (and get caught), I would get posted on the front page and denounced as a sexual predator, a pedophile, a pervert, and a rapist. This is because a 14 year old is a child, incapable of consenting to sex.
On the other hand, when 14 year olds do something like this, they are suddenly not wide-eyed children, but evil monsters who should be put down immediately.
What if it turns out one of these particular guys DID have sex with a 30 year old woman. Should she be punished for taking advantage of an innocent child? Or is this particular 14 year old accountable for his own choices?
7:14 pm on May 11th, 2009
Your 13 year old boy (and his buddies) is a statistically insignificant sample, considering he’s outnumbered by the, what, half a dozen + teenage boys who we’ve featured on this very site for this type of sodomy in the last couple years alone, not to mention the countless adult males who have been engaged in such hijinx out of association with the Jackass crew.
That said, I’m glad to hear he feels that way.
No. Your point is black and white. My point is a matter of degree and, socially, legally and scientifically, more accurate.
Responsibility and liability have been associated with specific age levels for as long as modern society as existed. It’s why prepubescent children aren’t arrested for assault in many jurisdictions. It’s why kids celebrate things like Bat Mitzvahs and quinceaneras at certain ages. It’s why kids under the age of 14 cannot legally work non-agricultural jobs; 14 and 15 year olds a limited to fewer work hours than 16 and 17 year olds. It’s why we can drive at 16, smoke at 18, have to wait until 21 to drink or own a hand gun and we don’t get an age-based insurance discount until 25. These things are all associated with degrees of development.
Yes, there’s right and wrong, but there’s more at work here than that very black and white concept. Impulse control, the ability to exercise judgment and the ability to grasp consequences are executive functions, functions that don’t fully develop until you’re into adulthood.
Often times, mentally retarded adults are described as having the “mental ability of a (insert minor age here) year old”. These adults are considered legitimately handicapped, even if they have the mentality of an individual as old as 16 or 17. This is because there are clear and well documented differences between the way a child or teenager’s brain works and that of an adult. We would not hold an adult of diminished capacity to the same standards of fully functioning adults… so why should we hold actual children to the same standards of fully functioning adults? It just doesn’t make sense.
7:37 pm on May 11th, 2009
Middle school? 14 and 15 year olds? That’s more like 9th and 10th grade.
I really can’t compare what they did to a 30 year old having sex with a student. Makes no sense to me. These were the kid’s peers.
I don’t know how their pictures were published. That, I think should not have been done.
7:45 pm on May 11th, 2009
Just because we have featured it, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been going since we have not. And as for Jackass…I’ve probably watched every show (sadly) and I am not recollecting any of the cast being an unwilling participant in anal rape. Please refresh my memory.
My opinion? 3 of the boys are followers. One of them is a deviant. You can probably deduce the key players as to who instructed the kid be held down while he inserted a stick. I wouldn’t doubt the attacker’s dick was harder than a brick.
Why? I think it serves as a nice example, and warning, to any other retarded individuals out there who feel they have to follow along in some type of similar situation.
7:54 pm on May 11th, 2009
Let me restate it. I agree with you. I don’t mind it at all. I guess though I’m not used to it. Is it because they are being charged as adults? Mostly when I read about minors in the news, they just say a 15 year old minor. Why the change for them I wonder.
8:03 pm on May 11th, 2009
8:31 pm on May 11th, 2009
The only assplay I remember in jackass was the hotwheel car up the butt when going for an Xray, and Stevo pinning his butcheeks together.
These kids got this idea from somewhere. when I was 13 or 14, the asshole subject never came up with other guys. Come to think of it, it still doesn’t. Gay! You can bet one kid was the leader and had 3 followers. That’s messed up at any rate.
I don’t know, big burly dudes rape in prison. I don’t know where the bright idea of sticking something in that kid’s butt came from, but I doubt it was from TV.
10:19 pm on May 11th, 2009
Indeed. It’s probably MUCH more pervasive than the two incidents (that I recall) that we’ve featured. My point was not to illustrate that the practice is socially acceptable – only to illustrate that it’s got less of a stigma than it did 25 years ago, when homosexual behavior was more frowned upon than it is today and behavior like this wasn’t exhibited by popular skate crews (maybe it never surfaced on Jackass – I mighta been mistaken – but it certainly happened on Bam’s Santa movie).
I didn’t see that coming. I’m in full agreeance. With a proper course of juvenile justice (a decently long sentence, say, ’til 21 and a focus on intensive therapy, something they won’t get in “the pen”), three out of four of these kids will grow up to be productive members of society. That makes more sense to me than locking them all up “until their dicks fall off” or shooting them.
10:26 pm on May 11th, 2009
<blockquote>Let me restate it. I agree with you. I don’t mind it at all. I guess though I’m not used to it. Is it because they are being charged as adults? Mostly when I read about minors in the news, they just say a 15 year old minor. Why the change for them I wonder. </blockquote>
The matter of protecting minor victims is generally the result of state confidentiality laws. These laws don’t commonly include minor defendants, certainly not those charged as adults. So, the choice to either publish or withhold the identities of minor defendants is often left up to the particular media outlet, if I understand it correctly.
10:45 pm on May 11th, 2009
12:31 am on May 12th, 2009
Wow…just….wow. Wonder what these boy’s home lives are like. I am picturing abusive, alcoholic fathers and whore – ish drunken mothers. That ma noth even been the case but their actions are a reflection of their parents as well.
I sure hope my son doesn’t grow up to be one of the “repressed, self loathing homosexuals”.
12:34 am on May 12th, 2009
I like this comment from the source link:
“the only difference between these 4 animals and ted bundy…bundy was good looking..”
7:09 am on May 12th, 2009
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1:18 pm on May 12th, 2009
Pretty sad that three of those kids are so lacking in self-esteem that they’d go along with something like this, but I’ll bet this assessment is right on the money.
3:09 pm on May 12th, 2009
No, not actually. But even that is beside the point. We’re talking about a significantly diminished capacity, here – children deemed so incapable, they enjoy “protected” status, unable and disallowed to function as adults. Thus, to treat them as children when they do good and adults when they do bad defies very basic logic.
With all due respect, in this context, I care as little about your 7 year old daughter as I do Morbid’s son.
Desensitization is a natural process. It’s why horror movies are exponentially more savage than anything they had 50 years ago. It why, just a single generation ago (my parents), hip swiveling was considered so vulgar, networks would refuse to air Elvis, but today, men and women simulating sex acts in music videos is common place. So, while you are free to hold the opinion that desensitization does not affect how wrong society considers something to be, history proves you unequivocally wrong.
I wish I could find the article about the similar case I referenced in a previous post. If I recall correctly, a kid fell asleep at a buddy’s house, and his buddies sodomized him, treating it as a step above writing on someone’s face if they fall asleep with their shoes on. They maintained the entire time that the incident was a “prank”, and I think they truly saw it as such. That certainly doesn’t excuse it and, in this case, it was clearly done out of malice, but it does speak to just how wrong this kind of thing is seen as by teens. Do you see where I’m going with this? There are degrees of “wrong” and, while this act is clearly wrong, it’s obviously being viewed as less wrong than it once was, which will impact how likely teens are to engage in such behavior.
You appear to be arguing against a position I never took. I’m not talking about adjusting laws or sentencing. I’m arguing in favor of sentencing children as children. The distinction between the adult and juvenile justic systems does not rest on one’s ability to determine right from wrong. It hinges more on the lack of development that impairs a child’s ability to exercise impulse control, grasp consequence and resist peer pressure – all things that adults are much more capable of doing.
The juvenile justice system was created because children are more likely to be successfully rehabilitated. That remains true. Charging them as adults when they are not adults is counter-productive.
3:20 pm on May 12th, 2009
My point was , and as much fancy words you put in between it will never change… that 14 yr olds are not innocent little babies. They are walking, talking, breathing People. Not infants, not innocents. They are until they start deviant behavior. Since your stance is that you are more accurate let me school you on something.
At the age of 6 i was raped by a 12 yr old. YES a 12 yr old. This continued on up till the age of 16…by a 22yr old. So do not tell ME at 12 this person was an innocent…someone who should be forgiven because they were 12.
This person grew up to be a counselor at a home for challenged girls, in the foster care system. Think about that….no record of any sex offenses …..and he’ s in the care of OVERNIGHT…underage girls. Now if you think for ONE minute that at the age of 14 that they will not CONTINUE to either rape, rob, control, or terrify someone else YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. So your comment about being correct in fact is off base, and MY FACTS have proven you wrong. This begins in early age, murderers start of killing animals as children, and rapists start off with control and terrorizing as a “starter-crime”. Do you see now why I don’t care about your “statistics”? Because I AM a statistic. And do you know what happened to this person who raped me for 10 years? NOTHING because he was a MINOR when it was reported. So he raped me for the next few years until I stopped it when I stood up and refused to let this go on. And do you know what CPS did? NOTHING NOT A THING. So go ahead tell me how I am wrong and 14 yr olds are innocent again?
3:24 pm on May 12th, 2009
Lacking in self esteem? Worried they could be next, more likely.
3:33 pm on May 12th, 2009
And also, don’t make me go over the PAIN, EMBARASSMENT, HUMILIATION, DEPRESSION, SELF BLAMING, SELF HATRED, AND THE PHYSICAL PAIN that this little 13 yr old boy went through. There is NOTHING that we can do to remove that. And the only compensation for the damage that is done; is JAIL TIME!
3:43 pm on May 12th, 2009
Not only are you clearly an intellectual-hater, you’re one of those people that gives out WAY too much personal information. Awesome.
Perhaps you care to note that the word “innocent” did not appear in any of my posts prior to this one. At no point did I assert that these boys were innocent, or even that they should not get punished. I simply maintain that juveniles should be charges as juveniles and adults should be charged as adults. I apologize if my “fancy words” confused you. So, while you’re busy grossly misunderstanding me, I’ll point out the fact that, as unfortunate as your experience was, it doesn’t apply to every offender and it certainly doesn’t apply to this case.
4:00 pm on May 12th, 2009
Was age not the discussion? Particularly the age of the Offender, and your position which is juvenile justice? Um ok lets see, my case: juvenile offender……. age 12….. ok check and check. So as both instances had an underage offender how does this not apply?AND…there are no laws currently that appropriately treat and or sentence them to time/treatment …..the ONLY other option is Adult Jail. So how does this not apply if to the exact topic?
If you’re upset that I proved you wrong its ok to walk away with your tail between your legs…you don’t have to quote the WHOLE article people CAN read.
4:06 pm on May 12th, 2009
It also makes me sad how you treat survivors of sexual assault by insulting them while they share their story. The voice of so many of the children we see on this site.
4:10 pm on May 12th, 2009
Actually ya know what? I don’t need to be insulted for my life. This is what happened and for you to say what you did personally offends me. I won’t come here anymore. I gave my opinion and my experience. If this is how you treat people who share their story this is obviously not the place for me. Have a good day bashing rape survivors.. I guess if that makes your day KUDOS to you!
4:41 pm on May 12th, 2009
I have an 11 year old son. I have a friend whose 14 year old son was sodomized by team mates as a “hazing” incident. I have given this subject a lot of thought.
The sexuality of the boys is irrelevant. The whole age factor is irrelevant. If anyone sodomized my son AGAINST HIS WILL – in a group or otherwise – AT ANY AGE, I cannot tell you what I would do to them.
An unwelcome sodomy is a violation that cannot be compared to an unlawful seduction.
I’d be pissed if someone overage seduced my son – very pissed.
But sodomized him against his will???????????????
Really, so kids have been exposed to that behavior……… Desensitized…………..
Ok, I can buy that. Maybe it’s not as hard to watch as it once was.
But to perpetrate?????? That takes a driving force.
My opinion – the driving force of evil.
Does anyone who has a child disagree?
4:50 pm on May 12th, 2009
MISS.S – Although there are many opinions shared on this blog (many different from your own), I would encourage you to continue to share. You are correct, there are many survivors that share on this website and I encourage you to bring real life experience and feelings to the table. Your voice and others, hopefully, will re-sensitize (if that is a word) these cases. Anyway just don’t want you to get too discouraged. Your thoughts and opinions matter!
5:17 pm on May 12th, 2009
Don’t disagree at all. I have two boys myself. I’d kill right now for either of them. But you know what, if one of my sons ever did something like this I do believe I would beat the shit out of him before I put his ass in a mental ward to see what the fuck was wrong with him.
Awful situation all the damn way around!
5:28 pm on May 12th, 2009
I agree with you too, SumrLilli. I have 3 sons and if one of them was attacked like this boy, my momma claws would most definitely come out. Not to say it would make the situation better, cause it would not. But that would be my reaction.
Two years ago, I was called by my son’s middle school to inform me that he was attacked by a group of boys at random. It was about 9:45 am, and the incident had occurred at 7:45ish am. My son’s face was swollen, his nose was fractured, and the side of his head was bleeding and swollen. He hadn’t received any medical attention, now were the authorities called.
When I showed up at the school, like a bat straight out of hell, I find out that he was attacked by a group of boys that were initiating another in their street gang. To make a long damn story short, I went to town on several people, and boy’s mom included. Now granted it’s not sodomizing, but had it been that, I would be featured on the Dreamin Demon for sure!
5:46 pm on May 12th, 2009
what a sad situation for all involved…. the victim will spend years recovering frm this if he recovers at all…
kids can be so cruel..
5:53 pm on May 12th, 2009
MISS.S, didn’t you say your attacker was never charged? If so, it had nothing to do with my point, which is that juveniles should be charged as juveniles.
Hey! You finally made a point that actually counters MY point! Of course, I’ll refer you back to my intial post where I state the answer to this is bolstering juvenile sentencing, not charging kids as adults.
As for the rest, spare me the pity party. If you want to throw your experience in my face to “prove a point” in a hostile manner, there are consequences. What, because you were victimized as a kid, I’m supposed to handle you with kid gloves even though you’re being blatantly snotty to me simply for having a different opinion? Fuck that. You’re an adult, I’m an adult, and you should know by now that pulling punches and then hiding behind your victimization is a cheap tactic.
I was victimized as a child and, not only do I not detail the experience for total strangers, I certainly don’t expect people to treat me differently after they hear it.
While I don’t really subscribe to the concepts of “good and evil” as they relate to the human condition, I do generally agree, and it doesn’t take having kids to see that something is seriously wrong with these boys. At least one of them is heinously mean-spirited and abusive. The rest of them are followers. My point is that, in the juvenile system, there may still be hope for the followers. If they spend any significant amount of time in the adult system, however – a system notorious for turning criminals into even better criminals – these followers will undoubtedly find individuals even worse than this ring leader to follow.
Children and the adult justice system are no more compatible than women and urinals. It wasn’t designed for them, it won’t account for the very obvious differences between them and it’s unlikely to result in a productive experience.
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