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	<title>Comments on: Ramon Deleon-Torres Beat The Baby</title>
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		<title>By: realtalk</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/03/19/ramon-deleon-torres-beat-the-baby/#comment-117953</link>
		<dc:creator>realtalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, well I&#039;m glad that you finally moved on, Stephanie and that you finally got help. I really am. And I hope your kids are doing fine. 

nanahaspatientandlove, I do have a life why do you think it took me so long to answer you. And I&#039;m not talking shit I&#039;m just telling the truth. I don&#039;t know why you think I&#039;m talking about you, because your right I don&#039;t know you and I don&#039;t want to know you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, well I&#8217;m glad that you finally moved on, Stephanie and that you finally got help. I really am. And I hope your kids are doing fine. </p>
<p>nanahaspatientandlove, I do have a life why do you think it took me so long to answer you. And I&#8217;m not talking shit I&#8217;m just telling the truth. I don&#8217;t know why you think I&#8217;m talking about you, because your right I don&#8217;t know you and I don&#8217;t want to know you.</p>
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		<title>By: nanahaspatientandlove</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/03/19/ramon-deleon-torres-beat-the-baby/#comment-117871</link>
		<dc:creator>nanahaspatientandlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Southern Lady-I don&#039;t think so, for I would had been notified by now. I still pray he stays the whole five years with my help. I sent a 4 page letter and the pics of the abuse that Ramon did on his son. 

Realtalk get a life. You talk shit like you know me and if I don&#039;t know you then you damn sure don&#039;t know me. It took you 3 months to come back and answer. Dane girl your slow. 
And no I didn&#039;t forget the baby Stephanie lost on 11/15/2006 it lies on my chest everyday. Consider that B**tard couldn&#039;t even go to the hospital with her, I was the one with her all day and her day came to the hospital too. Not his family or him. So you need to start getting your facts together before you go talking crap about me. I have 4 kids to disagree with and now 5 grandbabys. I don&#039;t need another kid talking crap to me. I got rid of that one 6 years ago and he&#039;s called my husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Southern Lady-I don&#8217;t think so, for I would had been notified by now. I still pray he stays the whole five years with my help. I sent a 4 page letter and the pics of the abuse that Ramon did on his son. </p>
<p>Realtalk get a life. You talk shit like you know me and if I don&#8217;t know you then you damn sure don&#8217;t know me. It took you 3 months to come back and answer. Dane girl your slow.<br />
And no I didn&#8217;t forget the baby Stephanie lost on 11/15/2006 it lies on my chest everyday. Consider that B**tard couldn&#8217;t even go to the hospital with her, I was the one with her all day and her day came to the hospital too. Not his family or him. So you need to start getting your facts together before you go talking crap about me. I have 4 kids to disagree with and now 5 grandbabys. I don&#8217;t need another kid talking crap to me. I got rid of that one 6 years ago and he&#8217;s called my husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Southern Lady</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/03/19/ramon-deleon-torres-beat-the-baby/#comment-117627</link>
		<dc:creator>Southern Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie, from reading this post, I see you&#039;ve had quite a difficult time, but are moving ahead with strength, education and courage to raise your children for an upstanding life of hopes and dreams. Congratulations. Put the past behind you and look forward to the future.

It&#039;s October. Was Ramon Sr. paroled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, from reading this post, I see you&#8217;ve had quite a difficult time, but are moving ahead with strength, education and courage to raise your children for an upstanding life of hopes and dreams. Congratulations. Put the past behind you and look forward to the future.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s October. Was Ramon Sr. paroled?</p>
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		<title>By: my2boys</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/03/19/ramon-deleon-torres-beat-the-baby/#comment-117623</link>
		<dc:creator>my2boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok so reaktalk whatever your name is if you know me so well and ramon then why cant you tell me who you are and juan is not a bad man to everyone who says he is he has taken my children into his life and me and loved us dearly he is the best thing ever to happen to me he is not like ramon no matter what you say ramon is crazy is his head i hope he comes out better he needed help and so did i and i got the help and i dont have orphan kids i have custody of rafael and i will get custody of junior so why do you say i have orphan kids find out the facts before you say shit i am a good mother i did everything to keep my family together but he fucked up not me i just went out for time for myself he went out every night stealing shit from houses and cars i was at home watching junior or i was working my ass off trying to support him and ramon since he couldnt keep a damn job. atleast juan gives me money if i need it and buys me stuff he is great with the boys and treats me as his wife and the boys as his own</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok so reaktalk whatever your name is if you know me so well and ramon then why cant you tell me who you are and juan is not a bad man to everyone who says he is he has taken my children into his life and me and loved us dearly he is the best thing ever to happen to me he is not like ramon no matter what you say ramon is crazy is his head i hope he comes out better he needed help and so did i and i got the help and i dont have orphan kids i have custody of rafael and i will get custody of junior so why do you say i have orphan kids find out the facts before you say shit i am a good mother i did everything to keep my family together but he fucked up not me i just went out for time for myself he went out every night stealing shit from houses and cars i was at home watching junior or i was working my ass off trying to support him and ramon since he couldnt keep a damn job. atleast juan gives me money if i need it and buys me stuff he is great with the boys and treats me as his wife and the boys as his own</p>
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		<title>By: realtalk</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/03/19/ramon-deleon-torres-beat-the-baby/#comment-117452</link>
		<dc:creator>realtalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s realtalk not realtime. And I&#039;m not who you think I am, nanahaspatientandlove. And your lieing about that you&#039;ve seen both of the girls that you are talking about out clubbing and meeting guys out in restraunts, well I don&#039;t know about that other girl. What about the ages, you know Stephanie tried having a baby when she was like 16 17 but remember she had a miss carriage or did you already forget about that baby.

And maybe she was with those people you say she was that night, but I know that the coworker your talking about is her man now or am I wrong? And I don&#039;t think it was just her fault it was both of their fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s realtalk not realtime. And I&#8217;m not who you think I am, nanahaspatientandlove. And your lieing about that you&#8217;ve seen both of the girls that you are talking about out clubbing and meeting guys out in restraunts, well I don&#8217;t know about that other girl. What about the ages, you know Stephanie tried having a baby when she was like 16 17 but remember she had a miss carriage or did you already forget about that baby.</p>
<p>And maybe she was with those people you say she was that night, but I know that the coworker your talking about is her man now or am I wrong? And I don&#8217;t think it was just her fault it was both of their fault.</p>
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		<title>By: nanahaspatientandlove</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/03/19/ramon-deleon-torres-beat-the-baby/#comment-112048</link>
		<dc:creator>nanahaspatientandlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stupidppl I&#039;m sorry for your lose. It&#039;s never good to loose someone to abuse and I am glad that it didn&#039;t go that far with Stephanie and the baby. For I don&#039;t think Ramon would be sitting in prison for the ppl her dad knows would had taken care of him probably. Since I had to stop them this time and told them to let justice to take care of it. 

You stated that the father needs to be in the kids life. It won&#039;t happen long as I&#039;m of live. Just because he helped make the babies doesn&#039;t mean he has to be in their lives as a father especially after he beat baby Ramon. Ramon will never change and if he does it will be for the worse since he has plans on hanging out already with other prisoners when he gets out. These babies don&#039;t need that crap in their lives and neither does Stephanie. I think you would agree what kind of life would they have drugs, stealing, and more abuse. Considering Stephanie doesn&#039;t want Ramons ass back anymore.

I can&#039;t say much about Juan for I don&#039;t really know him and if it ends up the same way. I will be more than ready to take care of both of her babies. I&#039;m here for my grandbabies not Stephanie that much anymore for she is an adult and I can&#039;t tell her what to do. She is the one who has to make the right decisions now for her babies and if they are the wrong decisions CPS will see it. 

I raised Stephanie and her siblings to know better, but I couldn&#039;t and I can&#039;t be a 24/7 guard over them are I would had never been able to go to work as a single mom. I teach them love, respect and trust, but always to have your guard up for ppl that will try to use you in life. I can&#039;t tell you why Stephanie picks the ppl she does and will trust them until something major happens. If I had that answer I could help her, but the more I complain the more she wants these guys. If Juan isn&#039;t the person for her hopefully she&#039;ll see it before anything happens to the second baby. 

Again I&#039;m sorry for your lose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupidppl I&#8217;m sorry for your lose. It&#8217;s never good to loose someone to abuse and I am glad that it didn&#8217;t go that far with Stephanie and the baby. For I don&#8217;t think Ramon would be sitting in prison for the ppl her dad knows would had taken care of him probably. Since I had to stop them this time and told them to let justice to take care of it. </p>
<p>You stated that the father needs to be in the kids life. It won&#8217;t happen long as I&#8217;m of live. Just because he helped make the babies doesn&#8217;t mean he has to be in their lives as a father especially after he beat baby Ramon. Ramon will never change and if he does it will be for the worse since he has plans on hanging out already with other prisoners when he gets out. These babies don&#8217;t need that crap in their lives and neither does Stephanie. I think you would agree what kind of life would they have drugs, stealing, and more abuse. Considering Stephanie doesn&#8217;t want Ramons ass back anymore.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say much about Juan for I don&#8217;t really know him and if it ends up the same way. I will be more than ready to take care of both of her babies. I&#8217;m here for my grandbabies not Stephanie that much anymore for she is an adult and I can&#8217;t tell her what to do. She is the one who has to make the right decisions now for her babies and if they are the wrong decisions CPS will see it. </p>
<p>I raised Stephanie and her siblings to know better, but I couldn&#8217;t and I can&#8217;t be a 24/7 guard over them are I would had never been able to go to work as a single mom. I teach them love, respect and trust, but always to have your guard up for ppl that will try to use you in life. I can&#8217;t tell you why Stephanie picks the ppl she does and will trust them until something major happens. If I had that answer I could help her, but the more I complain the more she wants these guys. If Juan isn&#8217;t the person for her hopefully she&#8217;ll see it before anything happens to the second baby. </p>
<p>Again I&#8217;m sorry for your lose</p>
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		<title>By: Abroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for your loss, Stupidppl. That is a terrible way to lose a friend, - and for such a pointless reason, too. I join you in wishing the best for her orphaned children.</description>
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		<title>By: stupidppl</title>
		<link>http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/03/19/ramon-deleon-torres-beat-the-baby/#comment-111940</link>
		<dc:creator>stupidppl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look fuck all of this!! Steph is a bad ass mom, we all make mistakes and really thinking about it. Everyone learns from it thank God shes okay and so are the baby&#039;s. We shouldnt let rumors take us away too much. Most importantly fuck what people say and think about us. What matters the most is what we know is true. What i really think is, the father should of had more time in jail to really think about what he did to his son. No kid nor baby deserves to be hit. Kids are so pure and innocent.

Of course mothers deserve to have fun. All that matters is if you love your kids and he or she is healthy has a place to live. Then everything is fine, all the moms just need to be really carefull if he his you once dont give him another chance to do it again. If you need help let someone know to stop it in time. One of my friends was killed in mexico by her so called husband yesterday. I got the phone call not so long ago. He admited it and said &quot;yes, I killed her because she was flirting with my cousin.&quot;

She always knew he was like that but never wanted help. The sad thing from this is that they&#039;re 3 kids are tramatised for life now. No near realatives to take care of them now. Women dont need men to survive they can make it on they&#039;re own. I really hope everything goes well. I also hope she doesnt give him another change to be with her because she deserves alot better. 

For her kids she needs to be happy so they can be happy. All the father really need to do is just be there for the kids. Sorry I didnt really pay much attention to everything but the only thing i say for last is fuck Juan too. He&#039;s a dirty ass man id say another Ramon. Like I said Steph deserves someone way better then them. I hope soon she can both have her kids and be a very happy family together like she deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look fuck all of this!! Steph is a bad ass mom, we all make mistakes and really thinking about it. Everyone learns from it thank God shes okay and so are the baby&#8217;s. We shouldnt let rumors take us away too much. Most importantly fuck what people say and think about us. What matters the most is what we know is true. What i really think is, the father should of had more time in jail to really think about what he did to his son. No kid nor baby deserves to be hit. Kids are so pure and innocent.</p>
<p>Of course mothers deserve to have fun. All that matters is if you love your kids and he or she is healthy has a place to live. Then everything is fine, all the moms just need to be really carefull if he his you once dont give him another chance to do it again. If you need help let someone know to stop it in time. One of my friends was killed in mexico by her so called husband yesterday. I got the phone call not so long ago. He admited it and said &#8220;yes, I killed her because she was flirting with my cousin.&#8221;</p>
<p>She always knew he was like that but never wanted help. The sad thing from this is that they&#8217;re 3 kids are tramatised for life now. No near realatives to take care of them now. Women dont need men to survive they can make it on they&#8217;re own. I really hope everything goes well. I also hope she doesnt give him another change to be with her because she deserves alot better. </p>
<p>For her kids she needs to be happy so they can be happy. All the father really need to do is just be there for the kids. Sorry I didnt really pay much attention to everything but the only thing i say for last is fuck Juan too. He&#8217;s a dirty ass man id say another Ramon. Like I said Steph deserves someone way better then them. I hope soon she can both have her kids and be a very happy family together like she deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: nanahaspatientandlove</title>
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		<dc:creator>nanahaspatientandlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remember who asked what I meant as the baby is coming alot sooner then we expected. Stephanie has high blood pressure with this pregnancy and she did have it early for she ended up with preeclampsia. For she could had died. She got HBP from all the stress of the child abuse and the doctors are trying to figure out if had to do with the abuse he put her through. 

I know everyone is going to say she did it to herself for she could have left. Some of you may not understand it was hard for her with his controlling ways and now I even understand that after all the people I have had to speak with on this. Some woman don&#039;t know how to walk away from it and some are to scared that the man will do more harm to her and her family, so she rather take the abuse then letting anyone else get hurt, but sometime other people do get hurt no matter what because of the way that man wants control over her. Watch the movie-Burning Bed on abuse. It made me cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember who asked what I meant as the baby is coming alot sooner then we expected. Stephanie has high blood pressure with this pregnancy and she did have it early for she ended up with preeclampsia. For she could had died. She got HBP from all the stress of the child abuse and the doctors are trying to figure out if had to do with the abuse he put her through. </p>
<p>I know everyone is going to say she did it to herself for she could have left. Some of you may not understand it was hard for her with his controlling ways and now I even understand that after all the people I have had to speak with on this. Some woman don&#8217;t know how to walk away from it and some are to scared that the man will do more harm to her and her family, so she rather take the abuse then letting anyone else get hurt, but sometime other people do get hurt no matter what because of the way that man wants control over her. Watch the movie-Burning Bed on abuse. It made me cry.</p>
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		<title>By: nanahaspatientandlove</title>
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		<dc:creator>nanahaspatientandlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey realtime and stupidppl. If you know my daughter so well then you know what shit she went through with Ramon. If you want to call someone a whore you better go look in the mirror for I know both of you have husbands and you are whoring around with 2 kids on your hips each. Ramon isnt that Fcking innocent in my eyes. Any man get a girl pregnant and then go out with a 13 year old and Fck her too and have her call on my daughters phone at all times of the night and sneak out with my daughters car and not come back till the next day where I had to take her to work because he wasn&#039;t there. He should even be locked up for that too. 

I&#039;m not going to trip on over you two for you both have always been friends of each other and I don&#039;t know which of you use to call me MOM and ask for my help with your kids. So don&#039;t you ever tell me I don&#039;t deserve having the baby in my custody. I raised 4 kids on my own with no damn man to support me and my kids. I think I&#039;m alot older then you two and have more sense not to just go have baby&#039;s to keep a damn man. That&#039;s whats wrong with this generation. At least I was in my late 20&#039;s when I had mind and now they are all grown. At least Stephanie was 18 and if I&#039;m right both you were having baby&#039;s at 15 and 16 and how many men have I seen you&#039;ll with in resturants, parking lots and know of from your own mouth clubs. Lets see how your husbands would like to hear this shit. And for you saying Stephanie going out clubing I don&#039;t think so since she worked her ass off to pay for everything while Ramon ran around with his friends and broke into cars and houses (police reports)and cheating on her. She had the baby most of the time and if she didn&#039;t I did while she worked to put food on the table and to keep the apt. 

Like I said that night she was with her brother, girlfriends and a coworker. Can&#039;t a mom have one night out when he was out ever night. My God how many of you go out once in awhile. 

Everyone that does know Ramon go tell him what Stephanie has said about him and his family she don&#039;t care anymore she has moved on with her life and she is happy for the first time in 3 yrs. I still have custody of baby Ramon, but she has custody of her new baby boy. CPS feels she is a good mother and she is doing what they have asked of her on her parenting classes and getting help with everything. She sees baby Ramon everyday too.

Oh and to let you know Stephanies new baby is Ramon&#039;s he looks just like baby Ramon alot when he was born and she wasn&#039;t cheating on him it was the other way around. Let him deny this baby and the courts will be the one to settle it with child support from his ass when he gets out. 

So realtime and stupidppl go ahead and tell him that she don&#039;t want his stupid ass no more and to just move on and far from his kids and her. She doesn&#039;t write him and hasn&#039;t for he is nasty asking her for porno pics of her to be sent to him with dirty magazines. When she has already told him twice that she doesn&#039;t want him back. Only reason I know this I have to make copies of every letter she sends him for CPS to protect her from saying the wrong thing and I monitor the ones he sends her since the court allowed it. Why don&#039;t you&#039;ll tell him too stop writing her for she laughs at his stupid ass for the stupid things he says. Like oh I&#039;m reading the Bible, but in the same since please send me some dirty magazines of girls in thongs and please send some of you like that too. Come on this man isn&#039;t changing for he also wants to hook up with another prisoner when he gets out. Oh yea real good family life he wants with his kids. STUPID PERSON as I knew he was when she hooked up with him 3 years ago. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOO Tell him you&#039;ll two, since you think it was her fault the baby was abuse. She didn&#039;t put that belt in his hands that night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey realtime and stupidppl. If you know my daughter so well then you know what shit she went through with Ramon. If you want to call someone a whore you better go look in the mirror for I know both of you have husbands and you are whoring around with 2 kids on your hips each. Ramon isnt that Fcking innocent in my eyes. Any man get a girl pregnant and then go out with a 13 year old and Fck her too and have her call on my daughters phone at all times of the night and sneak out with my daughters car and not come back till the next day where I had to take her to work because he wasn&#8217;t there. He should even be locked up for that too. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to trip on over you two for you both have always been friends of each other and I don&#8217;t know which of you use to call me MOM and ask for my help with your kids. So don&#8217;t you ever tell me I don&#8217;t deserve having the baby in my custody. I raised 4 kids on my own with no damn man to support me and my kids. I think I&#8217;m alot older then you two and have more sense not to just go have baby&#8217;s to keep a damn man. That&#8217;s whats wrong with this generation. At least I was in my late 20&#8217;s when I had mind and now they are all grown. At least Stephanie was 18 and if I&#8217;m right both you were having baby&#8217;s at 15 and 16 and how many men have I seen you&#8217;ll with in resturants, parking lots and know of from your own mouth clubs. Lets see how your husbands would like to hear this shit. And for you saying Stephanie going out clubing I don&#8217;t think so since she worked her ass off to pay for everything while Ramon ran around with his friends and broke into cars and houses (police reports)and cheating on her. She had the baby most of the time and if she didn&#8217;t I did while she worked to put food on the table and to keep the apt. </p>
<p>Like I said that night she was with her brother, girlfriends and a coworker. Can&#8217;t a mom have one night out when he was out ever night. My God how many of you go out once in awhile. </p>
<p>Everyone that does know Ramon go tell him what Stephanie has said about him and his family she don&#8217;t care anymore she has moved on with her life and she is happy for the first time in 3 yrs. I still have custody of baby Ramon, but she has custody of her new baby boy. CPS feels she is a good mother and she is doing what they have asked of her on her parenting classes and getting help with everything. She sees baby Ramon everyday too.</p>
<p>Oh and to let you know Stephanies new baby is Ramon&#8217;s he looks just like baby Ramon alot when he was born and she wasn&#8217;t cheating on him it was the other way around. Let him deny this baby and the courts will be the one to settle it with child support from his ass when he gets out. </p>
<p>So realtime and stupidppl go ahead and tell him that she don&#8217;t want his stupid ass no more and to just move on and far from his kids and her. She doesn&#8217;t write him and hasn&#8217;t for he is nasty asking her for porno pics of her to be sent to him with dirty magazines. When she has already told him twice that she doesn&#8217;t want him back. Only reason I know this I have to make copies of every letter she sends him for CPS to protect her from saying the wrong thing and I monitor the ones he sends her since the court allowed it. Why don&#8217;t you&#8217;ll tell him too stop writing her for she laughs at his stupid ass for the stupid things he says. Like oh I&#8217;m reading the Bible, but in the same since please send me some dirty magazines of girls in thongs and please send some of you like that too. Come on this man isn&#8217;t changing for he also wants to hook up with another prisoner when he gets out. Oh yea real good family life he wants with his kids. STUPID PERSON as I knew he was when she hooked up with him 3 years ago. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOO Tell him you&#8217;ll two, since you think it was her fault the baby was abuse. She didn&#8217;t put that belt in his hands that night.</p>
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		<title>By: realtalk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramon is a jealous and abusive person but he doesn’t deserve to die that is not our judgment its gods.

Abroad,
The only reason i said that was because people were saying that he deserves to die for what he did to his child. He deserves what ever many years they give him.

I tried giving him advice before but I don&#039;t think he gets it like I said his hard headed. But I will try my best to get it threw his thick head that he should just let her be and move on with his life, before it ends up even worse than before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramon is a jealous and abusive person but he doesn’t deserve to die that is not our judgment its gods.</p>
<p>Abroad,<br />
The only reason i said that was because people were saying that he deserves to die for what he did to his child. He deserves what ever many years they give him.</p>
<p>I tried giving him advice before but I don&#8217;t think he gets it like I said his hard headed. But I will try my best to get it threw his thick head that he should just let her be and move on with his life, before it ends up even worse than before.</p>
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		<title>By: realtalk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason I said that was because people were saying that he deserves to die instead of getting</description>
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		<title>By: Abroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ramon is a jealous and abusive person but he doesn’t deserve to die that is not our judgment its gods.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In your opinion, does he deserve 5 years, less than two with parole? I think this is what is on the table for him at the moment, not the big D.

He was incredibly lucky he did not hurt that child worse than he did. For his own sake as well as for the children&#039;s, I hope he realises he needs to stay away from the wreckage of what might once have been a family. If you are his friend, you will advise him as much when he gets out.</description>
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<p>In your opinion, does he deserve 5 years, less than two with parole? I think this is what is on the table for him at the moment, not the big D.</p>
<p>He was incredibly lucky he did not hurt that child worse than he did. For his own sake as well as for the children&#8217;s, I hope he realises he needs to stay away from the wreckage of what might once have been a family. If you are his friend, you will advise him as much when he gets out.</p>
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		<title>By: Zibarro</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;stupidppl
12:53 am on August 12th, 2009&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Well sorry for not being white and writting all fuckin perfect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wow - sooooo - only &quot;white people&quot; write perfectly?  First of all, you&#039;re wrong. I can&#039;t even say you&#039;re stereotyping because I&#039;ve never heard that &quot;Only whites can write a coherent sentence&quot; before.  You&#039;re just being ignorant.
Second, had you &lt;em&gt;NOT&lt;/em&gt; written that, what race &lt;em&gt;YOU&lt;/em&gt; are never would have crossed &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; mind.  Way to try to make this a racial thing, tard.
Third, you&#039;re assuming we are all &quot;white&quot;...  And your assumption is incorrect. 
Are you in the habit of apologizing for not being &quot;white&quot;? Self-hatred will eat you up, you know.  Love yourself, no matter what your race is ;-)   

 &lt;blockquote&gt;Plus I know all of you are probably her friends trying to defend her lol.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s a joke, right?  Have you not read any of the previous responses? Hell, even her mother and I have gone round and round! Don&#039;t try to equate our criticism of &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; with a defense of &lt;em&gt;Stephanie&lt;/em&gt;.  I for one am perfectly capable of believing you&#039;re &lt;em&gt;BOTH&lt;/em&gt; stupid tards! ;-)

 &lt;blockquote&gt;But its all good what comes around goes around and I’m sorry you’re too stupid to read something a 2 year old can.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You misunderstand, apparently. We &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; read it - at the risk of eye strain and a migraine. I actually read every word (&lt;em&gt;eventually. kept losing my place with all caps and no paragraphs&lt;/em&gt;), got a headache, forgot what you said, then decided it just wasn&#039;t worth the effort. 

 &lt;blockquote&gt;Stop hating on peoples writting cus i dont hate on ur stupid ass shit. Like your fuckin retarded pictures and fuckin user name. Oh for the lady or homo or whatever it was that called me stupid go look in a mirror cus it takes one to know one mijita.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh... &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; your example of NOT hating? lmao!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but - you are a &lt;strong&gt;blatant&lt;/strong&gt; hater! Your whole original post was nothing but hating on Stephanie, Ramon, and to a lesser degree, Stephanie&#039;s mother.  99% of what you wrote is hearsay and speculation. 

pendejo


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;redsaid
1:09 am on August 12th, 2009&lt;/strong&gt;

Ignorance is bliss……&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then this bitch must be fucking ELATED! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>stupidppl<br />
12:53 am on August 12th, 2009</strong></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Well sorry for not being white and writting all fuckin perfect.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow &#8211; sooooo &#8211; only &#8220;white people&#8221; write perfectly?  First of all, you&#8217;re wrong. I can&#8217;t even say you&#8217;re stereotyping because I&#8217;ve never heard that &#8220;Only whites can write a coherent sentence&#8221; before.  You&#8217;re just being ignorant.<br />
Second, had you <em>NOT</em> written that, what race <em>YOU</em> are never would have crossed <em>my</em> mind.  Way to try to make this a racial thing, tard.<br />
Third, you&#8217;re assuming we are all &#8220;white&#8221;&#8230;  And your assumption is incorrect.<br />
Are you in the habit of apologizing for not being &#8220;white&#8221;? Self-hatred will eat you up, you know.  Love yourself, no matter what your race is <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />    </p>
<blockquote><p>Plus I know all of you are probably her friends trying to defend her lol.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a joke, right?  Have you not read any of the previous responses? Hell, even her mother and I have gone round and round! Don&#8217;t try to equate our criticism of <em>you</em> with a defense of <em>Stephanie</em>.  I for one am perfectly capable of believing you&#8217;re <em>BOTH</em> stupid tards! <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>But its all good what comes around goes around and I’m sorry you’re too stupid to read something a 2 year old can.</p></blockquote>
<p>You misunderstand, apparently. We <strong><em>could</em></strong> read it &#8211; at the risk of eye strain and a migraine. I actually read every word (<em>eventually. kept losing my place with all caps and no paragraphs</em>), got a headache, forgot what you said, then decided it just wasn&#8217;t worth the effort. </p>
<blockquote><p>Stop hating on peoples writting cus i dont hate on ur stupid ass shit. Like your fuckin retarded pictures and fuckin user name. Oh for the lady or homo or whatever it was that called me stupid go look in a mirror cus it takes one to know one mijita.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh&#8230; <strong><em>that&#8217;s</em></strong> your example of NOT hating? lmao!</p>
<p>I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but &#8211; you are a <strong>blatant</strong> hater! Your whole original post was nothing but hating on Stephanie, Ramon, and to a lesser degree, Stephanie&#8217;s mother.  99% of what you wrote is hearsay and speculation. </p>
<p>pendejo</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>redsaid<br />
1:09 am on August 12th, 2009</strong></p>
<p>Ignorance is bliss……</p></blockquote>
<p>Then this bitch must be fucking ELATED! <img src='http://www.dreamindemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: realtalk</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all nobody deserves to have these kids not even the grandmother. The mother is a whore and the father is a abusive man. I have known both of these people since they where both 15.

 Ramon is a jealous and abusive person but he doesn’t deserve to die that is not our judgment its gods.

 Ramon was never aware of the things Stephanie was doing behind his back but he would always suspect something. Stephanie would leave her children to this man so she could work and go out with her other man and friends, and Ramon would always take out his anger on his child. She knew how angry he would get i don’t understand why would she leave her child with him if she knew how abusive he was. But for some reason she would still do it and be with him.

 When she was being abused she told everyone about it but she did nothing about it. I would tell her just leave him and go on with out him. I would tell the same thing to Ramon but they never took my advice.

 Only one of Ramon’s parents was abusive and it was his father, the mother would always tell Ramon to leave Stephanie before something happened but he was hard headed and never listened. Ramon’s mother sometimes would take Stephanie’s side when Ramon would do something to her, because she knew how Ramon was. Stephanie is trying to blame other people rather then herself and Ramon, they would both do very stupid decisions. The reason why Ramon’s parents never could really stay in Austin is because of financial problems the mother couldn’t work because of her health problem and because of the other children she was trying to raise, and the father would never make enough money to support them. For those years that i knew Ramon’s mother i knew she was a kind and loving person but his father i never liked i had a few times when i wanted to fight him so bad but i thought to myself he was never worth it. 

People don’t worry about Ramon’s siblings they are currently doing fine and they r not being beaten, all that stuff she said was bull shit don’t try to buy into there crap.

 Stephanie and her mom are acting like they are little angels and are trying to make people to take their side. Stephanie is currently still with that other man she was cheating on Ramon with, not taking care of her kids because her mom is taking care of them.

 The night her son got beaten she was out clubbing and with her other man, and even lied to Ramon saying that she was at a girl friend’s house. The next day she didn’t have to go to work but she went anyways just to show her friends pictures of the baby’s bruises like if she was proud of it. The reason she is getting mad at peoples comments on this page is because people are catching her on all of her bullshit. She was also writing to him while he was in jail, telling him that she still wants to be with him and how much she misses him.


 I am not on anyone’s side because they both don’t deserve the kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all nobody deserves to have these kids not even the grandmother. The mother is a whore and the father is a abusive man. I have known both of these people since they where both 15.</p>
<p> Ramon is a jealous and abusive person but he doesn’t deserve to die that is not our judgment its gods.</p>
<p> Ramon was never aware of the things Stephanie was doing behind his back but he would always suspect something. Stephanie would leave her children to this man so she could work and go out with her other man and friends, and Ramon would always take out his anger on his child. She knew how angry he would get i don’t understand why would she leave her child with him if she knew how abusive he was. But for some reason she would still do it and be with him.</p>
<p> When she was being abused she told everyone about it but she did nothing about it. I would tell her just leave him and go on with out him. I would tell the same thing to Ramon but they never took my advice.</p>
<p> Only one of Ramon’s parents was abusive and it was his father, the mother would always tell Ramon to leave Stephanie before something happened but he was hard headed and never listened. Ramon’s mother sometimes would take Stephanie’s side when Ramon would do something to her, because she knew how Ramon was. Stephanie is trying to blame other people rather then herself and Ramon, they would both do very stupid decisions. The reason why Ramon’s parents never could really stay in Austin is because of financial problems the mother couldn’t work because of her health problem and because of the other children she was trying to raise, and the father would never make enough money to support them. For those years that i knew Ramon’s mother i knew she was a kind and loving person but his father i never liked i had a few times when i wanted to fight him so bad but i thought to myself he was never worth it. </p>
<p>People don’t worry about Ramon’s siblings they are currently doing fine and they r not being beaten, all that stuff she said was bull shit don’t try to buy into there crap.</p>
<p> Stephanie and her mom are acting like they are little angels and are trying to make people to take their side. Stephanie is currently still with that other man she was cheating on Ramon with, not taking care of her kids because her mom is taking care of them.</p>
<p> The night her son got beaten she was out clubbing and with her other man, and even lied to Ramon saying that she was at a girl friend’s house. The next day she didn’t have to go to work but she went anyways just to show her friends pictures of the baby’s bruises like if she was proud of it. The reason she is getting mad at peoples comments on this page is because people are catching her on all of her bullshit. She was also writing to him while he was in jail, telling him that she still wants to be with him and how much she misses him.</p>
<p> I am not on anyone’s side because they both don’t deserve the kids.</p>
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