My grandparents lived close to a golf course (not a ritzy one, but still nice, with lots of big fancy rules about non-members staying the fuck out). There was a large ditch and lots of trees between the younguns and that course. And wouldn't you know it, we had a bridge we would cross every day on the weekends and bring our bikes to ride up and down the golf path. And we'd search in that big old ditch for lost golf balls!
Yep, 4 preteens, well, three and a pseudo-teen (I was 14), up and down that golf course all day long. Sure, we'd avoid the players. We even had one guy scream at us for daring to trespass. But did we ever fear we'd deserve to be thrown into the ditch for our ball-collecting? Hell, no. If any man on that course picked my brother up and threw him, he'd have lost that golf club and I'd have carried it and my banged up brother back to my mom. His punishment would be swift, and my mother would not be merciful. No one deserves to be attacked for playing when they're kids. Even if the kid refused to give him his ball back (we usually avoided the freshly landed ones), he didn't deserve to be tossed.

Now damn, I'm torn.. because I hate preteens. Really, it's my least favorite age. I noticed how awful preteens were around the time that I was one. BUT.. when I was one, I was a kid who collected golf balls from the course that was my back-freakin-yard. Yeah, trespassing, sure. It's not as if they drive cars, so I assume they live on the course or are members of a club. There are always lost balls, in the woods, the brush, the water. We'd fish them out, resell them to the golfers cheap. We did it then to make a few dollars, kids did it before us, kids do it today. The only guy we ever had complain was an old dude trying to do the same thing, but when it comes to wading into water features, you're just not going to compete with the 11yr olds. In reality, we had great relationships with the regular golfers, being their go-to source for cheap balls. They'd look for us. I imagine they recognized a few of their balls coming back around to them, but getting back a brand new looking titleist pro v1 right there on the course for no more than 50cents must have seemed like a fine enough deal. I get the anger over messing up a ball in play, if not the physical rage. What I don't get is the angry hatred right HERE for kids who collect golf balls to sell back to golfers. It's a non-deliquent way to earn a few dollars for some willingness to wade through brambles and skanky water. I didn't do delinquent things on the golf course til I was an actual teen and it was the middle of the night. Come on Harley, don't be the get-off-my-lawn guy, lol.

I take it you don’t play golf...

Nope, I don't play golf. I don't play croquet, either. Boring yuppie sports are for, well... boring yuppies. ;)

If there are any questions about the standard skate park set up or the types of individuals who frequent them, however, hit me up. :P

Grab your golfclubs, people! We have some preteens to physically assault!

LMAO...reminds me of the "Hoody Infestation" from Hot Fuzz :D

Blather!

Jesus Christ, Jury. All you've got is to say my post is "blather?" Really? Wow. This is almost as impressive as when you said I "talk too much." At no time, however, have you attempted to refute any of the points I have made.

Gee, I can't imagine why.

Jesus God Almighty. I can’t believe I’m even having to argue about this. The guy is a fucking douchebag who needs to get a fucking life. No, not a golf pro, just a guy playing golf who takes it WAY, WAY, WAY too fucking seriously.

To think that golf courses should have roving bands of security is ridiculous. To think it is ever ok for a grown man to physically attack a 12-year-old is even more ridiculous. If he was defending himself, that is one thing, but if he let a smart-mouthed kid get to him so bad that he assaulted the kid, well I have no sympathy for the guy. there were many options Nathan had at his disposal, the one he chose was wrong and illegal.

Nothing really needs adding to what Morbid said, but I should like to mention that in a pro tournament with big money there would have too many people around for this accidental picking up of a golf ball that was still in play to occur. (And even then, I sincerely hope the pros would be able to contain themselves if some novice spectator did touch a ball.)

I think this was a club tournament and that the money was a private bet. Doesn't mean that it wouldn't have hurt Mr Moore to lose the hole; but he shouldn't be making wagers he couldn't afford.

Someone asked about alcohol earlier. I would find that very relevant as well; but I suspect nobody checked. He wasn't driving, after all.

First of all, Jury, save the indignation that I would dare criticize your spelling. If you don’t want people commenting on your spelling mistakes, don’t call other people “stupid” for no reason other than you just don’t like what they’re saying. That was the point and you know it.

You are way off base with your assumptions; that you would assume so much about me as to be commenting on my overall worldview is just ridiculous. I absolutely DO NOT view all children as angels who can do no wrong, not even close. Yet you feel comfortable claiming that I see ALL kids as angels, going so far as to put it in all caps to emphasize your point which is ironically followed by you chastising me for forming opinions without “all the facts” even though I don’t actually, you know, hold those opinions. It appears your relationship with “the facts” is tenuous at best.

What you’re not getting is that this story is NOT about the bratty preteens acting up on the golfcourse, it’s about the fact that psycho Nathan Moore attacked a kid for it. Thinking Nathan Moore is wrong does not preclude one from thinking what the kid did was wrong…though I must say, Jury, I laughed out loud when I saw you comparing stealing golf balls (if you can even call it stealing) to a kid who shoots and robs people.

Blather!

To think that golf courses should have roving bands of security is ridiculous. To think it is ever ok for a grown man to physically attack a 12-year-old is even more ridiculous. If he was defending himself, that is one thing, but if he let a smart-mouthed kid get to him so bad that he assaulted the kid, well I have no sympathy for the guy. there were many options Nathan had at his disposal, the one he chose was wrong and illegal.

I think you nailed it, Morbid. That we are even debating whether Moore was justified in attacking the kid, with some even concentrating on how badly he beat the kid as if Moore should be given a medal for not putting him in a coma, just seems crazy to me.

Don’t even try with Veronica. She is always right, and best of all she can spell better than the rest of us.

It is not a cut and dry case. Only one side is told; however, to Veronica, all she can see is a kid getting messed up, and that’s all she will ever see.

I guess she missed the show called “when kids attack.” To her, children never shoot adults, they never assualt adults, they never rob adults..etc. To her, all she can see are little Angels, ALL OF THEM, no matter what the facts are.

First of all, Jury, save the indignation that I would dare criticize your spelling. If you don't want people commenting on your spelling mistakes, don't call other people "stupid" for no reason other than you just don't like what they're saying. That was the point and you know it.

You are way off base with your assumptions; that you would assume so much about me as to be commenting on my overall worldview is just ridiculous. I absolutely DO NOT view all children as angels who can do no wrong, not even close. Yet you feel comfortable claiming that I see ALL kids as angels, going so far as to put it in all caps to emphasize your point which is ironically followed by you chastising me for forming opinions without "all the facts" even though I don't actually, you know, hold those opinions. It appears your relationship with "the facts" is tenuous at best.

What you're not getting is that this story is NOT about the bratty preteens acting up on the golfcourse, it's about the fact that psycho Nathan Moore attacked a kid for it. Thinking Nathan Moore is wrong does not preclude one from thinking what the kid did was wrong...though I must say, Jury, I laughed out loud when I saw you comparing stealing golf balls (if you can even call it stealing) to a kid who shoots and robs people.

Oh, I know. And his behavior is inexcusable. However, from what I understand, there was a tournament going on, and usually there is some kind of security on the golf courses during those things. I was wondering why someone hadn't noticed these kids were collecting golf balls on the course while the tournament was being held.

Not saying that the guy was in the right at all. There is no excuse for a grown man to attack a child. Regardless of what the kid was doing or why he was there, he didn't do anything to necessitate the kind of violence that was visited upon him.

Kids always have, and always will trespass on golf courses. Ask anyone who lives around one or uses one...or like me, trespassed on them.

To think that golf courses should have roving bands of security is ridiculous. To think it is ever ok for a grown man to physically attack a 12-year-old is even more ridiculous. If he was defending himself, that is one thing, but if he let a smart-mouthed kid get to him so bad that he assaulted the kid, well I have no sympathy for the guy. there were many options Nathan had at his disposal, the one he chose was wrong and illegal.

Just wondering here... My ex-boyfriend's father used to play in golf tournaments all the time, and they used to get wasted in the course of playing. Any word on if alcohol was involved here? (Not that it makes his actions acceptable, but I was just wondering.)

Also, WTF is up with the golf course security. If they were having a tournament, there should have been no way for these kids to be going and picking up golf balls during it.

Now, when you instead respond like a crazy, YOU are at fault for shifting the focus off this boy’s bad behavior. YOU are the one responsible for turning this boy from a hoodlum into a victim. Congrats to this douchebag for being as counter-productive as possible.

I take it you don't play golf, ball are everywhere in the rough balls are lost all the time , boys are always out looking for them, there was really nothing wrong with this boys behavior, except he picked up a ball in play instead of a lost ball, like I said before the ball was probably in the rough and the boy had no idea it was in play.
the child is the victim no question about it, and Moore is an out of control abuser

I didn’t see the physical description of either here. Have you assumed a size difference here or are you in poses ion of facts to support this?

Where has anyone either in comment or the original story even suggested that anyone was assaulted with golf clubs? I must have missed that.

maybe you just need to read sloooower, it might improve your comprehension
sounds like 3 of you on here like to beat on 9 to 12 year old children or younger, guess you're here because you enjoy rooting for the abuser & enjoy reading about children being beaten, what pitiful lives you must have

Harley_Tech:

Don't even try with Veronica. She is always right, and best of all she can spell better than the rest of us.

It is not a cut and dry case. Only one side is told; however, to Veronica, all she can see is a kid getting messed up, and that's all she will ever see.

I guess she missed the show called "when kids attack." To her, children never shoot adults, they never assualt adults, they never rob adults..etc. To her, all she can see are little Angels, ALL OF THEM, no matter what the facts are.

I am sure Nathan was just having a bad day, why else would he fly off the handle for the little darling.

And that would have been the appropriate response. Picking a kid, who people say is small for his age to boot, up by the throat and the crotch, tossing him, then smacking him with a golf club, is NOT the appropriate response.

Now where is the fun in that? I mean damn, why deprive a guy of a good kid toss while he's out playing a round?

R

If I were the golf course manager, I’d file trespass charges against the little bastard.

And that would have been the appropriate response. Picking a kid, who people say is small for his age to boot, up by the throat and the crotch, tossing him, then smacking him with a golf club, is NOT the appropriate response.

Now, when you instead respond like a crazy, YOU are at fault for shifting the focus off this boy's bad behavior. YOU are the one responsible for turning this boy from a hoodlum into a victim. Congrats to this douchebag for being as counter-productive as possible.

I can only think of two reasons for a 12-year-old kid to be on a golf course. With a parent who is playing or getting into trouble of some sort.

If anything, his parents should be whipping his little ass as well for being there in the first place. Maybe ground him and take his bike away from him for a month.

If I were the golf course manager, I'd file trespass charges against the little bastard.

R

Can’t you do any better than that? :eyeroll:

THE COPS ARE RECOMMENDING AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, Harley. Once again, are they a bunch of gullible idiots? And who said the kid denied doing anything wrong. Your perception of this makes it seem as if messing with a golf game is worse than hitting a kid with a golf club. It's not an issue of the kid denying his horrible crime of fucking with golf balls. :eyeroll:

Again, you are making assumptions that are not even suggested as fact, no one was assaulted with any golf club.

Here, you are just plain wrong. It's not an assumption on my part, it's in the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH. Jeez. As far as the police are concerned, this ass did in fact hit the kid with the golf club.

As for the "golf pro" thing, maybe he is. Who the hell knows. However, the fact that this was a tournament means exactly dick as far as whether or not the guy is an actual golf pro. My husband played in a golf tournament a few months ago. He is not a golf pro. In fact, not a single person there was a pro. Not all tournaments are pro tournaments with large cash prizes.

Even if he IS a golf pro, in what universe should that matter? You get to physically attack someone for "messing with your ability to make a living?" Even if that someone is a twelve-year-old kid and you're a grown adult who should absolutely know better?

Very simple, if the kid was not where he was not supposed to be, he would not even have the chance to get into some altercation.

Anything that results from this will only serve to reinforce his belief that he can come and go as he pleases, take anyone's property, and there are no consequences. Great lesson for this kid to learn.

R

Oh, and BTW, it is totally unheard of for someone to deny doing anything once the cops show up and the pissing in the pants commences. Really.

Oh, and BTW, it is totally unheard of for some pre-teen to deny doing anything wrong when the cops or their parents show up.

Can't you do any better than that? :eyeroll:

R

Where has anyone either in comment or the original story even suggested that anyone was assaulted with golf clubs? I must have missed that.

"He allegedly picked the boy up by his throat and crotch, tossed him into some nearby bushes, and then hit him with his golf club. Nathan then resumed playing."

Right there in the first paragraph.

But Jennifer Sprague, mother of one of the boys collecting golf balls with the victim described the boy as small for his age and weighing less than 80 pounds. Moore was arrested for the incident and later released.

I'm assuming Mr. Moore is at least 160 pounds, which would put him in the vast majority of grown men. In this case it is actually likely that he was MORE than twice the kid's size.

If anyone is at fault here, it’s the ADULT who thought it was OK to take a golf club to a kid because the kid was doing something he shouldn’t have been.**

Again, you are making assumptions that are not even suggested as fact, no one was assaulted with any golf club.

And no, this guy is not a golf pro. What reason would you even have to think that?

Did you read the story. The man was participating in a GOLF TOURNAMENT. A golf tournament is one of those pesky things that pro's play in to make their living. So, are you sure the man is not a pro trying to make his living?

R

Unfuckingbelievable. It’s okay for a grown man to assault a twelve year old kid who is LITERALLY HALF HIS SIZE.

I didn't see the physical description of either here. Have you assumed a size difference here or are you in poses ion of facts to support this?

Grab your golfclubs, people! We have some preteens to physically assault!

Where has anyone either in comment or the original story even suggested that anyone was assaulted with golf clubs? I must have missed that.

R

Oh, and BTW, it is totally unheard of for someone to deny doing anything once the cops show up and the pissing in the pants commences. Really.

So you normally give the perps featured on DD this much benefit of the doubt, Harley? No, you don't, and I know you don't. In fact, this is the first time I can think of where I've disagreed with you about anything, but this is a real doozy.

The kid was not beaten here. I mean really, he was picked up and tossed in a bush. LOL

You are so right, Harley. Obviously, the kid sprained his own neck just to frame this asshole.

**So tell me, If the guy didn't freak out and attack this kid, would this be a story at all? No.

So who is it that taught this guy that it is OK to physically assault kids if they piss him off, especially if he doesn't beat the kid TOO bad?

If anyone is at fault here, it's the ADULT who thought it was OK to take a golf club to a kid because the kid was doing something he shouldn't have been.**

And no, this guy is not a golf pro. What reason would you even have to think that? Because it somehow makes your point that the kid deserved to be attacked more valid? The vast majority of people on golf courses are not golf pros! LOL.

Therefore, THIS WAS NOT A BIG DEAL. So his frikking golf game was disrupted. SO WHAT. Yell at the kids to "get off my lawn!" and be done with it.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that maybe this guy is a fucking asshole who lacks self-control? Why do you think it's ok as long as the kid doesn't end up in a damn coma?

How many 12-year-old kids can you think of who always "follow the rules?" Should they all be physically assaulted to some degree to teach them a lesson?

Jesus God Almighty. I can't believe I'm even having to argue about this. The guy is a fucking douchebag who needs to get a fucking life. No, not a golf pro, just a guy playing golf who takes it WAY, WAY, WAY too fucking seriously.

Let me reiterate -- as an adult, this moron has a responsibility to control himself.

THEY ARE KIDS FOR GOD'S SAKE. It's not as if they were torturing animals or something, they were just engaging in normal dumbass preteen behavior.

It is truly unbelievable to me that you don't think the guy was at fault for what he did. It's ALL the fault of the kid and his parents? Really?

GOODYEAR, Ariz. – On March 1 Nathan Moore, 37, was participating in a golf tournament at the Golf Club of Estrella in Goodyear.

Is the man a golf pro? were these kids interfering with his ability to make his living?

Moore is denying that he did any of this,

Ignore that the man claims his innocence.

The boy did not suffer any major injuries aside from a sprained neck, a bruise on his calf and some cuts and bruises.

The kid was not beaten here. I mean really, he was picked up and tossed in a bush. LOL

Golf course officials said no one is allowed on the course if they aren’t actually playing

So tell me, if the kid had followed the rules and NOT been on the course, would this be a story at all? No.

So who is it that taught this kid it was OK to go where he was not allowed and pick up other people's property?

If anyone is at fault here, it's the kid and his parents.

R

Yeah. REAL snobs have attorneys on perpetual retainer, damnit.

which also brings to mind..Money= light sentance

Having lived on a golf course for some time and watched the little bastards out stealing balls form players, some of which are actually practicing their way of making a living, I’d wager that this little kid needed his ass whipped.

Is the guy a dumb ass for putting hands on a kid? Maybe, IF he did at all.

Lets see, two or three pre-teens out stealing golf balls and get caught. What are the chances they got together and made up this story about some golfer kicking his ass?
Pretty good I’d say.

Maybe if the parents taught this punk some manners and kept him off the golf coarse he wouldn’t be in this situation.

Interesting....how about this:

**Having spent a lot of time on a golf course being that my dad lives on one and watching all the puffed-up douchebags who take golf WAYYYY too seriously, I'd wager that this Nathan Moore is one of said douchebags.

Are these kids dumbasses for stealing balls? Maybe. Most 12-year-olds are dumbasses.

Let's see, the police are recommending an aggravated assault charge for this guy. What are the chances that the police ARE NOT a bunch of morons easily duped by some preteens.? Pretty good I'd say.

Maybe if Nathan Moore's parents had taught him some self-control in addition to the sad realization that he is not the center of the fucking universe, he wouldn't be in this situation**.


A situation that with any luck, will soon involve Nathan being humiliated to no end by Sherriff Joe and, appearing soon, his jail boyfriend.

Unfuckingbelievable. It's okay for a grown man to assault a twelve year old kid who is LITERALLY HALF HIS SIZE.

After all, those damn kids were messing with Nathan's precious golf game! Obviously, that is what is going on here, it's not even a possibility that Nathan Moore is just a self-absorbed dickhead who lacks self-control. It's also highly likely that the police are just a bunch of idiots easily fooled by some dumb kids.

Those damn kids. Let's start a vigilante group to beat the fucking shit out of kids engaging in shenanigans. It may be that these kids are acting like brats because that's what twelve-year-old kids do, but fuck it.

Grab your golfclubs, people! We have some preteens to physically assault!

Having lived on a golf course for some time and watched the little bastards out stealing balls form players, some of which are actually practicing their way of making a living, I'd wager that this little kid needed his ass whipped.

Is the guy a dumb ass for putting hands on a kid? Maybe, IF he did at all.

Lets see, two or three pre-teens out stealing golf balls and get caught. What are the chances they got together and made up this story about some golfer kicking his ass?
Pretty good I'd say.

Maybe if the parents taught this punk some manners and kept him off the golf coarse he wouldn't be in this situation.

R

Yea....I say no matter how you look at it he was wrong.. He didnt need to get physical! Being mad is fine... but we keep our hands to ourselves and no one gets in trouble! Just glad no one was seriously hurt! :)

come my Sweet. Cme and pick this "Mama Dukes" up and toss her. Please come try. I'd like to shoe you a new version of Victim Toss-and it would be your raddedy azz. OOOpsss. Eileen said that I was too emotional. Sorry. Please join me for tea and crupetes.

Dude wouldn't have left the course with both balls if it had been my kid he hurt.

As soon as he laid his hands on the kid that was aggravated assault because of the age disparity. Conviction under that section of the law is a Class 6 felony, which gets one a year and a half in prison. If this is his first offense, though, the judge can reduce it to a Class 1 misdemeanor, which is good for a year in jail. And since Goodyear is in Maricopa County it will be Joe Arpaio’s jail — tents, pink underwear, evaporative coolers, no coffee, and all.

If the jury finds that the golf club he hit the kid with is a dangerous implement then the conviction will be of the Class 2 felony of aggravated assault. That’s prison. Sentence without aggravation or mitigation can run 4 to 10 years.

*Swoon*

I don't even know your gender, but knowledge of this nature is nothin' but sexy.

I love that sheriff Joe! :-)

This guy lacks self-control, plain and simple. Let’s hope an assault charge helps him adjust his behavior, a bit.

He will have plenty of time to think about it.

As soon as he laid his hands on the kid that was aggravated assault because of the age disparity. Conviction under that section of the law is a Class 6 felony, which gets one a year and a half in prison. If this is his first offense, though, the judge can reduce it to a Class 1 misdemeanor, which is good for a year in jail. And since Goodyear is in Maricopa County it will be Joe Arpaio's jail -- tents, pink underwear, evaporative coolers, no coffee, and all.

If the jury finds that the golf club he hit the kid with is a dangerous implement then the conviction will be of the Class 2 felony of aggravated assault. That's prison. Sentence without aggravation or mitigation can run 4 to 10 years.

I think he'd've been much better off dropping a ball and taking the penalty stroke.

--Al

Yeah. REAL snobs have attorneys on perpetual retainer, damnit.

Julio Laboy, a supervising attorney for Moore’s attorneys

Mr. Laboy works for Phillips & Associates of Phoenix (all easily verified on the State Bar of Arizona's website)

Phillips & Associates is a well-known, TELEVISION ADVERTISING law firm - make of that what you will. ;)

He’s a SNOB…pure and simple.

If he has hired Phillips & Associates as his lawfirm, he only THINKS he's a snob! LOL!

He looks like Jeffery Damer.

Yeah... I'm sorry, but I don't care how fucked up "kids are these days". If you're going to viciously assault a kid, you'd better have a damn fine reason. A kid stealing a golf ball is certainly not enough, even if he DID talk some shit (which we've got no reason to assume happened).

This guy lacks self-control, plain and simple. Let's hope an assault charge helps him adjust his behavior, a bit.

Damn, some of ya'll are fun!! Come join the forums part of the DD!! Much more fun inside!!

KiI bet the ball was off the fairway in the rough somewhere and this lousy golfer was pissed about his shot and took it out on the kid.

Bingo!


And for those of you who were suggesting to look to the golf marshall to set things right, unless it is an actual tournament, golf does not involve anybody besides the gentlemen playing. You need to be able to trust that the other player will not cheat, and for a situation like this one would need to "drop" the ball. "He moved my ball" might easily lose Mr Moore a shot or two.

There is still no way this was right.

Well Fuck, I have to come to the front page more often, apparently i'm missing out on all the fun!!

Yep, these brats today are monsters. We don’t know the whole story, I would bet the punk had it coming. Kids today are out of control.

No doubt some youth are BRATS and MONSTERS...no question. In this case the only brat/monsters is the adult. He was the only one acting out of control....

Real nice example to our youth ASSHOLE!

I just want to throw a dog licked fresbie up side his head.Poor kid too bad he crossed the path of a baller or I mean Nat the ball less.

LOL! Not just "licked" but licked by a slobbering bulldog, no less! Looks like he could use some in that hair of his......

IMO, I think the authorities should charge him with, not only aggravated assault, but endangerment to a child. If he doesn't spend time in prison, he should receive anger management classes, then they should take away his golfing privileges and his balls....

I hope the parents get an attorney, pro-bono, and sue this AssHat, and part of lawsuit would take all of his golf clubs!!!

ducking because I know rocks are coming LOL

that's funny

Sounds like Nathan Moore lost his marbles too.
Hate to see how he would react if you touched his ping pong balls.
Lord forbid if you picked up his volley ball.
Never look at his soccer ball.
A baseball don't even ask what he would do.
His tennis balls are golden.
Don't you hate it when a guy is obessed with his balls.

I just want to throw a dog licked fresbie up side his head.
Poor kid too bad he crossed the path of a baller or I mean Nat the ball less.

ducking because I know rocks are coming LOL

Ok guys settle down. Some golf courses pay kids to walk around and pick up stray golf balls. That could have been the case here. The kid apologized and tried to return the ball. There was obviously no ill intent and thus NO REASON to get the shit beaten out of him.

Verionica, ever think you talk too much….

I'm kind of disappointed, Jury. Is this really the best you've got? Any chance you might actually try to argue against my points rather than just complaining there is just too much crap to argue against?

Give me a break -- none of my posts are all that long. They take me 90 seconds, MAX, to type.

Next!

If it had been an adult Nathan wouldn't have had the balls to do anything. The fact that it was a kid does make a difference whether he stole the ball or not because Nathan should have just reported the incident to the golf Marshall. The fact that he beat the kid shows you that he took matters into his own hands and is a coward on top of that. You don't beat the hell out of someone for anything except self-defense or in the defense of another.

Great strawman, Jury. I never said anyone should think I’m great for my spelling skills, nor did I even imply it. I was merely pointing out that if you’re going to call someone else stupid, it might be best to keep the spelling mistakes to a minimum. It diminishes the power of your statement. Personally, I don’t think your statement had much power anyway though. It just came off like you were grasping at straws. Which is understandable — it’s kind of difficult to defend aggravated assault against a 12-year-old, but I have faith that if you keep trying, you’ll find something that works.

Verionica, ever think you talk too much....

Sigh… Veronica can spell, lets all bow down.

Great strawman, Jury. I never said anyone should think I'm great for my spelling skills, nor did I even imply it. I was merely pointing out that if you're going to call someone else stupid, it might be best to keep the spelling mistakes to a minimum. It diminishes the power of your statement. Personally, I don't think your statement had much power anyway though. It just came off like you were grasping at straws. Which is understandable -- it's kind of difficult to defend aggravated assault against a 12-year-old, but I have faith that if you keep trying, you'll find something that works.

Then we can all make pretty cards with glitter and shit to cheer Nathan up in prison after he has his hole pounded by his bigass cell mate.

Nathan, you hero you! It takes a REAL MAN to beat the shit out of a particularly scrawny preteen with a golfclub. That's a fair fight all the way, and don't let anyone else tell you different. You go on with your bad self, Nathan!

Yeah, I can totally see where you're coming from Jury. This guy Nathan Moore is seriously fucking awesome. Let's give him a god damn medal while we're at it.

GOODYEAR, Ariz. – On March 1 Nathan Moore, 37, was participating in a golf tournament at the Golf Club of Estrella in Goodyear. At the same time, a group of young boy were there collecting golf balls. Somewhere around the 15th hole, Nathan got into a dispute with one these boys and accused him of stealing his ball. The boy, 12, apologized to Nathan and tried to give him his ball back, but Nathan wasn’t having it. He allegedly picked the boy up by his throat and crotch, tossed him into some nearby bushes, and then hit him with his golf club. Nathan then resumed playing.

I will admit I dont know much about golf, so I am not clear on why they were collecting golf balls anyway. Personally I think its bullshit that this asshole decided to take it upon himself to assualt a 12 y/o boy. He doesnt sound like much of a punk ass kid if he tried to apologize and give the ball back. If it were a matter of the guy playing in a high stakes game, wouldnt there be some kind of game monitor person he could have had the incident reported to and gotten another stroke with no penalty or something???

But like I said, that’s petty. Jury’s real problem is not an inability to spell. It’s the fact that Jury looks at that douchebag’s photo above and says, without a hint of irony, that the douchebag is a “hero” for BEATING A KID WITH A MOTHERFUCKING GOLF CLUB for messing with his “precious balls.”

I do, however, have to agree here. I have a 12 yr old son and he is NOT a punk, but I could see him doing something like this with his buddies not thinking anything of it until some crazed adult freaked out at him about it at which point he would most definitely try to apologize and give the idiot his ball back. If this had been my son, though, we'd be looking at someone else's mug shut. Just sayin'.....

No offense to you jury--I'm not getting involved in this argument. The "your" vs. "you're" thing is just one of my pet peeves.

and compelled to point out the irony in calling someone else stupid when they can’t even get the “your” vs. “you’re” thing right, which should have been fucking clear as hell after the fourth grade.

Bwahahaha!!! I know right?? Love it Veronica X-D

But like I said, that’s petty. Jury’s real problem is not an inability to spell. It’s the fact that Jury looks at that douchebag’s photo above and says, without a hint of irony, that the douchebag is a “hero” for BEATING A KID WITH A MOTHERFUCKING GOLF CLUB for messing with his “precious balls.”

Sigh... Veronica can spell, lets all bow down.

Biteme, your so stupid, you can’t even count to two. Read you loser post barfbag. And I may be a troll in your eyes, but you come from a whole family of bitemyjackasses.

Sigh...you know, when I read crap like this, where someone is calling someone else "stupid" because they are pissed off said person challenged them on a message board, it makes me feel kind of petty, and compelled to point out the irony in calling someone else stupid when they can't even get the "your" vs. "you're" thing right, which should have been fucking clear as hell after the fourth grade.

But like I said, that's petty. Jury's real problem is not an inability to spell. It's the fact that Jury looks at that douchebag's photo above and says, without a hint of irony, that the douchebag is a "hero" for BEATING A KID WITH A MOTHERFUCKING GOLF CLUB for messing with his "precious balls."

For the record, I don't think Jury is a troll, and biteme is frequently an asshole to those he disagrees with. But Jury's comment this time is egregious enough that I actually find myself kind of agreeing with biteme. That's quite a feat, jury.

Maybe a little prison time for assault would do Nathan Moore some good. More than likely, he'll find out real quick what it's like to be physically assaulted by someone literally twice his size.

You know, it's funny....you don't see too many skinny, pussy-ass motherfuckers with roid rage. Nathan, you're truly special. And with any luck, you'll get to be Bubba's "special" friend real soon.

If he were a troll, he would’ve started this shit a long ass time ago. He’s posted on numerous stories about different types of crimes, the one post he makes that makes him sound like an asshole, he gets called a troll. I think you should look up that meaning because it seems as if you may not know one when you see one.

Thanks Penelopejo. That Biteme person thinks they own this entire forum. If you don't agree with Biteme ALL the time, your a Troll.

I would have hired a 16 yr old to have handled the problem. He is a fool to have done it himself.

Or a 15 year old.:-D I agree with you biteme.
Unless a child is threatening your life or the life of your child then I don't think an adult should put their hands on a minor.

like I said TROLL!!

If he were a troll, he would've started this shit a long ass time ago. He's posted on numerous stories about different types of crimes, the one post he makes that makes him sound like an asshole, he gets called a troll. I think you should look up that meaning because it seems as if you may not know one when you see one.

LOL

Then for good measure, when they are writhing on the ground in pain, piss on them. That’ll show ‘em.

Alright guys Jury is just sating his opinion about probably the kids he may be around and YES some kids deserve a good toss every now and then BUT that would be the parents not a stranger to touch someone else’s child or possession. NOW my whole family works with JUVEES and they are punks and they desperatley need a beating but once again you are not allowed to, so Jury i understand where you are coming from but once again it all comes from the home life where they should be taught to RESPECT others and maybe these children were not taught that so hang in there and don’t listen too much what the others are saying to you

Jury says:
February 19, 2009 at 12:42 pm
We don’t know all the facts. 9 year olds can be monsters. I would bet any amount of money the kids had it coming.

I would have hired a 16 yr old to have handled the problem. He is a fool to have done it himself.

like I said TROLL!!

Biteme, your so stupid, you can’t even count to two. Read you loser post barfbag. And I may be a troll in your eyes, but you come from a whole family of bitemyjackasses.

LOL!!! dude, you are too fucking funny. HERE COMES THE RIOT PATROL. lol

biteme says:
March 13, 2009 at 11:35 am
and i think it’s a little early to be calling someone a troll. I mean, it takes a least a few more asshole posts to sound like a troll. 2 for me is not enough.

jury’s 2nd the punk kids deserved a beating post, you’re not keeping up with the score

Biteme, your so stupid, you can't even count to two. Read you loser post barfbag. And I may be a troll in your eyes, but you come from a whole family of bitemyjackasses.

Alright guys Jury is just sating his opinion about probably the kids he may be around and YES some kids deserve a good toss every now and then BUT that would be the parents not a stranger to touch someone else's child or possession. NOW my whole family works with JUVEES and they are punks and they desperatley need a beating but once again you are not allowed to, so Jury i understand where you are coming from but once again it all comes from the home life where they should be taught to RESPECT others and maybe these children were not taught that so hang in there and don't listen too much what the others are saying to you

jury’s 2nd the punk kids deserved a beating post, you’re not keeping up with the score

Whaaa? You're not making sense. He only made 2 comments. I don't think he's trying to incite a riot. I think he's just trying to be an asshole. If he was trying to incite a riot, he could've said something along the lines of:

Too bad he didn't put the little bastard in the hospital I know if it were me, I would have. Shit, you don't take golf balls from me and expect nothing to happen to you.

Maybe i should've said that instead. Ehh, next time. I wanna be called a troll next.

Arrogant prick much????Jeez!

and i think it’s a little early to be calling someone a troll. I mean, it takes a least a few more asshole posts to sound like a troll. 2 for me is not enough.

jury's 2nd the punk kids deserved a beating post, you're not keeping up with the score

Hey, everyone! In honor of our resident preteen-assault condoning friend Jury, I have a great idea...everyone should go out today and find some brats engaging in loitering and/or other shenanigans and then beat them over their heads with their own skateboards until they learn their lesson. The lesson being, all kids are monsters. Time to atone for the sins of your peers, kids-on-those-damn-skateboards!

Then for good measure, when they are writhing on the ground in pain, piss on them. That'll show 'em.

Well I guess It’s ok to say if I catch you or Nathan in the vicinity of any children related to me, I’m beating ass just in case.

LOL...Made my day...

Yep, these brats today are monsters. We don’t know the whole story, I would bet the punk had it coming. Kids today are out of control.

Maybe I'm not feeling very diplomatic this morning, but jury, this is a seriously stupid statement. I mean really, really, really stupid. You chastise us for "not knowing the whole story," yet you are using the blanket statement "these brats today are monsters" to justify this guy's behavior. Only problem is, uh...we don't know the whole story. And you certainly don't know this kid.

How about this? These douchebag golfers today are monsters."

Wow! It's that simple, folks!

Personally, I would give the benefit of the doubt to the 12-year-old kid, not some grown dickhead with a hair-trigger temper.

sounds like someone lost his head....or should I say balls...

Jury you’re the only asshole punk around, you’re a troll and a loser, BYE!

and i think it's a little early to be calling someone a troll. I mean, it takes a least a few more asshole posts to sound like a troll. 2 for me is not enough.

Well I guess It’s ok to say if I catch you or Nathan in the vicinity of any children related to me, I’m beating ass just in case.

LOL

Yep, these brats today are monsters. We don’t know the whole story, I would bet the punk had it coming. Kids today are out of control.

Ok, so now it's ok for grown ass motherfuckers to assualt children who have posed no bodily harm to them what so ever?

Well I guess It's ok to say if I catch you or Nathan in the vicinity of any children related to me, I'm beating ass just in case.

He's a SNOB...pure and simple. Snobs look down on others not of "their class" and consider them unworthy of human social civility. When the boy apologized to this sour puss, the apology was just a confirmation; a justification to 'punish' the brat. This jerk needs counseling to educate this fart on the Constitutional rights of all citizens, which by the way, state that all [men] are created equal (God's Law). The mug up there is the face of outright indignation: "How DARE they bring me in here and treat me like a common criminal... I'm a somebody damn it!"

Yep, these brats today are monsters. We don’t know the whole story, I would bet the punk had it coming. Kids today are out of control.

Jury you're the only asshole punk around, you're a troll and a loser, BYE!

You know, if the kid was actually stealing balls from players, or talking mad shit, then I would give the guy a bit of leeway. It’s not like Nathan tried to beat the kid to death or anything. But if this kid apologized and tried to give the ball back, or actually looks 12, then there really isn’t any excuse for Nathan putting his hands on the kid.

Kids often walk around looking for balls on a golf course, I see adults do it all the time The lost ball was going to cost strokes to our lousy golfer that's why he went after the kid.
He was probably having a bad day and losing the ball would add stokes to his already bad game, and golf can involve some pretty serious money bet on the side not to mention pride and club bragging rights, I bet the ball was off the fairway in the rough somewhere and this lousy golfer was pissed about his shot and took it out on the kid. If I'd seen him beating the kid, I'd be the one getting arrested

Yep, these brats today are monsters. We don’t know the whole story, I would bet the punk had it coming. Kids today are out of control.

That still doesn't give him the right to put his hands on a child.. Not all kids out of control and it said the little fella apologized so it doesn't sound that he was that bad of a kid.

You actually condone him acting that way?

You know, if the kid was actually stealing balls from players, or talking mad shit, then I would give the guy a bit of leeway. It's not like Nathan tried to beat the kid to death or anything. But if this kid apologized and tried to give the ball back, or actually looks 12, then there really isn't any excuse for Nathan putting his hands on the kid.